The Cock Carousel, Beta Bucks, and Polygraphs. r/relationships case file #976224

thiasus · 2015-08-12T13:09:00+00:00

He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks.

It's one of the clearest examples of how women have no empathy for betas that they genuinely can not see why a beta would be hurt that she did double anal with nipple clamps with Chad and wouldn't blow Beta because that's gross. And it's not a pretension, they genuinely don't understand it because they don't take a beta's sexual needs into any consideration.

redpillschool · 2015-08-12T14:36:34+00:00

I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating.

Two things to note: Free spirit equates to slut. Every time you hear free spirit, remember, it means slut.

Number two: taking time to "travel." Traveling means discovering exotic cocks to suck and fuck. It will literally never mean anything else. This is women taking pleasure at their raw sexual market value. Not investing it like you expect a prudent man would with a windfall, by the way, but spending it casually for cheap thrills.

Any time a girl takes time to travel, that is what it means.

A question I also tend to ask myself, where did this young early twenties girl get enough scratch to just vacation in europe for an entire year?

It's either a man paying for her slutquest (father or boyfriend) or it's student loans, in which case it will be a man paying for it. (future boyfriend, beta bucks).

Vigilo_Infinite · 2015-08-12T13:28:38+00:00

Some of the replies on this post are disgusting. People are flat out telling her to lie and how what might matter to Barry simply isn't his business.

There are quite a few sane replies on there about her dishonesty and how she should tell him, especially as she knows it will matter to him, so there's that.

redpillersinparis · 2015-08-12T14:16:20+00:00

He's a lot less sexually experienced than me (only 8 partners, total)

~~8 partners is a lot less than her count...~~

Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure that's actually just a troll post.

redpillliger · 2015-08-12T14:51:58+00:00

One ray of sunshine for fiance: she came clean and the wedding's off. Always makes me happy to see a man stand up for himself and not cave in the face of the "numbers don't matter" bullshit

pastillarouge · 2015-08-12T16:11:53+00:00

For anyone who cares or is interested, she posted a follow up... here it is quoted.

I [31f] came clean with my [34m] fiancee. Good news: Polygraph test is off. Bad news: So is the wedding.

submitted by ___

First of all thanks to everyone who was supportive and had good advice and kind words for me. Even those of you who were rude and mean ended up adding to my decision to discuss this with Barry last night. We were at a very nice bar/restaurant for drinks with friends, and once they left Barry and I got a booth and had a late dinner. I was only a little buzzed, 2 vodka martinis in 3 hours. I didn't know how else to bring it up without sounding sneaky, so I just came out with something like "I'm concerned about the poly."

He got a little concerned and asked why. I told him that I had fibbed when we first met and never bothered to correct it. He asked what about. I told him it was the number of men I'd been intimate with. That's when things started to go badly. He got upset and asked how many? I told him the number didn't matter, it was the fact that I lied that I was feeling guilty about. He agreed it was disturbing to him, but he wanted to know how many men.

I tried to tell him it wasn't the issue, but he wasn't listening. He got a little angry. He doesn't shout or use a lot of profanity but I could tell he was very upset by his face. He said it was important to him to know. I told him it was important to me that it wouldn't have an impact on our relationship. He told me that something like this is going to have an impact on the relationship because he feels like I deceived him for the last few years. I was crying at that point. We talked for a long time and he tried to explain his position and why he was so mad. I told him I understood why he was mad, I just wanted to come clean with him before we got to the poly.

It was a rough night. We talked until the bar closed. He wanted to know exactly how many men and who they were. He said that it didn't matter much if we were just dating, but he needed to know who his wife was before he married her. I tried to explain that I was a much different person back then but he didn't want to hear about that. He didn't feel he could trust me now and said don't worry about the poly. He wants to postpone things until he can think about them, including the wedding. He finally put me in a cab home and said he'd call me tomorrow (today). I was a wreck all night and didn't get much sleep. I'm mad at him but I'm more mad at myself for putting myself in this position. I'm heartbroken that I've hurt a good man and messed up a great relationship.

I've left him four messages so far today but I haven't heard anything from him. I woke up on the couch in my clothes from last night, called work and told them I was taking the day, and I'm heading for the shower and bed, now. I thought I would update all of you who were concerned aout what happened. I'll check back later and see what you have to say. I don't know how long Ill use this account. I feel a little humiliated and exposed but iits also been great getting everyone's feedback and advice. Thanks. tl;dr: Told my finacee about my past. He's pissed at me for lying and called off the wedding for now. I'm a miserable wreck and hate myself for screwing this up and now want to sleep for two years and wake up with everything back the way it was.

For her, she reaps what she sows. For you take heed and don't get married.

Edit: Formatted her post to make it easier to read.

max_peenor · 2015-08-12T15:02:58+00:00

[–]Losealittlealot 282 points 16 hours ago So..why not talk to him before the polygraph. permalink

[–]SeekingHEA[S] 27 points 16 hours ago That's what I'm thinking. We're supposed to have drinks with friends tonight after work. I might bring it up with him then.

By all that is holy in the universe, I pray there is an update post.

[–]This_is_my_work_face 118 points 15 hours ago Also, have you considered not marrying a man who you fear is incapable of loving the person you are?

He's incapable of loving a cheating slut. He should be not marrying her, not the other way around.

jaredschaffer27 · 2015-08-12T15:07:56+00:00

The obvious stuff jumped out at me, of course. But this is interesting:

"My motivation was to protect the inheritance I'm anticipating from my grandmother (a family farm of about 50 acres) and my parent's home, when they eventually pass. There's also some jewelry and antique china and other things I would never want to lose. It's not a lot, compared to Barry's holdings, but it's mine and I would never want anything to happen to it."

Anticipating............."It's not a lot, but it's mine". The shit her not even dead relatives MAY give her in the future is already hers.

mushyz · 2015-08-12T15:10:08+00:00

I dont understand this "the past doesn't matter" nonsense. Its like women think that the person they want to be or subjectively hope to be is who they actually are. They fail to realize that a person is defined by their actions. What we do in this life defines who we are. Doesn't matter you say, think, or aspire to. Thats not to say people can't change their attitudes or behavior.....But how can women not comprehend that no guy wants to marry some broad thats had 30 in the oven, 10 in the exhaust, and 25 in the smokestack?

cyphers_steak · 2015-08-12T13:27:36+00:00

Looks like a big pile of bullshit.

"A degree in fashion merchandising.. My usual answer of 5..
only cheated twice.. free spirit.. made some mistakes.. explored my sexuality and discovered myself".

It's one of these _r/relationships stories that reads like a redpill bingo card and that causes me to doubt its veracity.

commentatorX · 2015-08-12T14:12:22+00:00

my usual answer

If this piece is real - this implies her answer varies on how she feeeeels, when she is asked, and who is asking her.

babydocnorman · 2015-08-12T16:01:59+00:00

I saw the update. Under the threat of a polygraph the woman came clean and admitted to fucking nearly 40 other guys after originally telling her fiance her N count was 5. Fiance called off the wedding. Good for him.

In this case, the threat of running a HoeFax worked. We need to figure out how to commercialize this shit. Think of the possibilities.

southpawshuffle · 2015-08-12T15:52:49+00:00

The chick left this comment in her update post (in which the called off the wedding once she confessed to banging not 5...but 30 guys:

"Barry told me that he didn't like the idea of having so many lovers in my past that we ran the chance of running into one at the airport. He was also upset when I told them that yes, some of them were technically better lovers and more well endowed than he was. That hurt him a lot. I didn't want to say that to him, but he insisted. It's apparently important to him."

Upvote_To_The_Left · 2015-08-12T14:49:39+00:00

this is more flamebat trolling. I really think somebody(s) from this subreddit is making random accounts and posting these fake stories to then have a jerk-off here.

fundude1 · 2015-08-12T15:11:31+00:00

This story is too good to be true and totally TRP.

I am a little suspect about them being so perfect. Are these real or just fake trolls?

Regardless, Barry is right to get a polygraph. He should end the relationship ASAP since she lied about her sexual history.

GoldPisseR · Wed Aug 12 16:02:17 2015 UTC

Why marry a 30+ woman in the first place?

the_number_2 · 2015-08-12T19:02:29+00:00

We're a great match. Barry is charming, wonderful, thoughtful and attentive, everything I want in a man.

Okay, so he matches everything YOU want. Now tell me, how do YOU match up to HIM? She talks about how great he is for her, but how about why she's good enough to deserve it? Oh wait, that doesn't matter. Two people being a good match means the guy is everything the girl wants and the girl has a periodically accessible fuck-hole for the guy.

Archwinger · 2015-08-12T18:49:54+00:00

Oh come on. That has got to be a troll post.

At the time I didn't think much of it, and gave him my usual answer: five. That seemed reasonable, even a little conservative, at the time. I only counted LTRs since high school and the boy I lost my virginity to as "real" relationships, not the high school boys I fooled around with or the other guys I've met.

I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating. That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

I'm no longer that girl who did all those things, I've grown and matured. I just don't think Barry will see it that way. He's a lot less sexually experienced than me (only 8 partners, total) and he does get a little jealous when I mention my exes. He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks. I don't what he'll do if he learns about all that I've done.

Seriously, guys?

I couldn't have written a more textbook troll post. Those paragraphs could literally have been copied from the shit we write when we're making fun of women.

iamanalterror · 2015-08-13T09:01:47+00:00

I sometimes wonder if stories like this are fake.

I can imagine a redpiller spinning a story up for r relationships or askhamsters, just to get responses.

Or even a blue piller writing it up to get TRP to react to it.

sqerl · 2015-08-13T20:49:24+00:00

Seriously, fuck all of you. Where were you 20 years ago when I should have learned about this crap? I hate the role of BB as it was so eloquently ingrained into my head. I thought I had done a good job digesting and reprogramming in recent years. Then I discovered TRP and I've had a perpetual headache ever since. Looking forward when it's so 2nd nature that my headache subsides. Thanks to everyone and especially the dialogue in every thread.

battyryder · 2015-08-12T14:49:34+00:00

unfuckingbelievable, she strung him along and now she's going to land in the shit. even if this is bullshit, still lessons to be learned. do not get married, they will do anything to land a beta bucks. also looks like the wedding is off, haha

blacwidonsfw · 2015-08-12T15:08:19+00:00

I read this thread. It is way too cliche to be real. But that's my opinion I could be wrong

2015-08-12T17:31:45+00:00

I had a plate attempt to hamster that she should "be appreciated as the sum total of her attributes and not deconstructed exclusively into the purity of her vag" haha particularly since she claims to have meticulously guarded her sexual health. She was incapable of grasping that she's essentially quasi-human sans any semblance of authentic interests and aptitudes beyond her shoe fetish and "fighting patriarchy" LOL. They truly wonder why we don't have two fucks to give regarding their HR gigs that they sucked cock all throughout college to qualify for. They also don't seem to get that we know when they belch out music/sports/booze trivia - they're simply regurgitating the musings of the chad that quite literally came before us. It aint rocket science - lightly used snatch and chipper fucking attitude. As evidenced by OP's link they aren't even willing to fake it anymore. Goddamn stories like this make me so irate I want to hit something.

IWillHaveVengance · 2015-08-12T15:45:09+00:00

Saw that post yesterday and figured that it would end up on here. It sounds fake but oh my god the whitenighting and you go girl in that post gave me a good laugh.

favours_of_the_moon · 2015-08-12T17:22:04+00:00

He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks.

That's cool and maybe she was more sexually attracted to that other guy and more eager to please, or whatever.

But maybe the poor BB husband was more eager to spend money on some other bitch. Maybe he prefers not to allow this bitch access. No big deal, right?

MattyAnon · 2015-08-12T18:43:26+00:00

casually asked about the number of men I'd been with. ... gave him my usual answer: five.

hahahaha she even has a usual answer. So much TRP gold in this post. As usual she only counts LTR and not ONS, FWB, etc.

They know this is an outright lie.

CruiseCruise · 2015-08-12T21:24:41+00:00

Wait, we're all missing a GREAT point here.

I've never thought of asking a woman to do a polygraph test. Maybe this should be standard advice for prenups.

Seriously, look what the REQUEST for a polygraph got for this guy.

Evolved_Red · 2015-08-12T19:24:53+00:00

I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating. That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

I love how women justify jumping on as many cocks as they can as "finding myself", when for us men, 'finding myself' is a more sojourn solitary path. i.e. focusing on a project / career, climbing a fucking mountain or abstaining completely, whether voluntary or not (MGTOW).

The funniest thing though is we can never claim 'I'm not that person anymore!' when we've finished 'finding ourselves', and especially if the moment suits the excuse.

RememberingAlpha · 2015-08-12T14:29:26+00:00

God this shit makes my blood boil. I think Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks, and only too willing to be a slut for chad is the most infuriating part of swallowing the pill for me because it hits so close to home.

MajorMid · 2015-08-12T15:13:32+00:00

Just think about it. Seperate lawyers...polygraphs...contracts. This all defeats the purpose of true love, trust, and marriage anyway. If you have to do all that why would you marry the person?

Marriage is useless in todays day and age

Netaro · 2015-08-12T15:18:20+00:00

She posted an update. Quite an interesting update...

MattyAnon · 2015-08-12T18:48:16+00:00

If we learn one thing from all this... it is that in our "equal" society, the female viewpoint is the only viewpoint. The male viewpoint is unacknowledged and in the rare cases it is heard, it is always wrong.

blackhornatnight · 2015-08-12T19:38:46+00:00

How is he a Beta Bucks if she is already wealthy?

DestroyAllBarriers · 2015-08-12T21:33:03+00:00

"He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks."

How does someone stay with someone after this? Massive red flag.

reddedo · 2015-08-14T01:48:13+00:00

I only counted LTRs since high school and the boy I lost my virginity to as "real" relationships, not the high school boys I fooled around with or the other guys I've met.

her hamster wheel starting up

full_package · 2015-08-12T16:12:16+00:00

Why analyze something that appears to be a troll post?

blackhornatnight · 2015-08-12T16:32:59+00:00

C'mon, brah. Her story probably isn't even real. A polygraph test? Really? This isn't Maury Povich.

Iron-willing · 2015-08-12T17:26:52+00:00

He's a lot less sexually experienced than me (only 8 partners, total)

She tells him 5 and then turns around and says 8 partners is a lot less than how many she's had. This woman has seen more dick than a urologist does in 20 years. When women say 5 it typically means around 15-20, not 50 AWALT

the_crimson_pig · 2015-08-12T18:10:34+00:00

Classic case of AF/BB to a "T".

Most women are incapable of empathizing with the psychological bullshit a cuck'd man goes through. Accept the reality for it is, learn to see through the lines with women's behavior, and by god, don't be a Barry..

Lt_Muffintoes · 2015-08-12T18:40:40+00:00

They deserve each other. Although a polygraph may seem like a smart move on the surface, a casual examination shows this not to be the case.

Would you let a brain surgeon operate on you, if you felt the need to polygraph them to make sure they wouldn't take a handwhisk to your head-goo?

People like this give out very clear signals. He knows [and not too deep down either] what she is like, what she has done and that she is lying to him, yet is still marrying this whore.

He is asking for the divorce in 5 years, where the judge will throw the prenup out, because the polygraph "shows coercion".

You do not have to let the State's slimy tentacles into your most personal relationship, and if a woman tries to railroad a legal marriage over your fears ("But why don't you trust meeeee"), just run for the hills and ghost her.

S74RK · 2015-08-12T18:53:26+00:00

I was a free spirit in college before I figured out what I wanted to do and took a year off to travel before graduating. That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

TRP theory for detecting red flags in women is so good that it makes threads like these read like troll posts.

balalasaurus · 2015-08-13T01:46:25+00:00

"I was a free spirit before but now I've grown and matuuurrrreeeedddd'

Let's that be a lesson to you gentlemen. If you ever find yourself in a situation like that (bonus hint: you shouldn't), run. Run fast and far away from the succubus before you.

R_E_D_1 · 2015-08-13T03:06:44+00:00

That was a very fun year, sexually speaking. I made a lot of mistakes, of course, but I was getting valuable experience and learning a lot about myself.

Then whey did she lie about it? She knows her sexual history is unattractive to men, but then calls it all part of learning how to be a blah blah blah. That hamster be a-runnin'.

ErasmusOrgasmus · 2015-08-13T15:28:29+00:00

Anyone pick up on this line?

But we'll be making the answers hooked up to a lie detector

I'm sorry, making the answers? Freudian slip much?

The-Ban-Hammer · 2015-08-13T17:57:48+00:00

He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks.

Women love this entitlement. The bad stuff they save for the guys they want to fuck and "I'm not that girl anymore" for the guys they settle with.

Once again, if you're not getting her sexual best, just know that past (and future) Chads have (and will).

Derzu_Uzala · 2015-08-14T15:40:19+00:00

Women LIE A LOT gentlemen. AND AT THE SAME TIME, they expect the whole truth from us. This thing about being truthful at all times is A WAY OF CONTROLLING MALE BEHAVIOR.

Excerpt from "The manipulated man" which you can find in the sidebar:

COMMERCIALIZED PRAYERS

For most men all that remains of the religious faith of childhood are a few conditioned behavioral reflexes, such as love of truth, the enjoyment of honest, hard work, or a pleasure in non-freedom. From the moral point of view, everyone should have the right to lie. It helps us to stave off society's often too bold attempts to supervise us and thus minimizes our own personal fight for existence. The disadvantage of lying is that if everyone does it, it loses its usefulness. If anyone is gullible enough to believe something that is not true, he must himself love the truth and assume a similar love in others. Consequently, a lie becomes a luxury: it has rarity value. The rarity value has to be maintained by incessant denigration, in the interest of liars. Therefore, it is very important that women teach men love of truth: for only if he loves truth, is she able to afford the luxury of lying.

edit: format

GhostOfAladdin · 2015-08-12T17:37:21+00:00

She is feeling "anxiety" and is a "trainwreck" for natural and healthy reasons. Her CC rides arent free spins on the wheel for Barry. She's either:

Come clean and search for new BB.
Cheat the polygraph if nevessary and lock down Barry Bux.

Pretty Snowflake that one...

Relevantex · 2015-08-12T22:25:56+00:00

He found out about something I did with one guy that I've declined to do with Barry and he was hurt about it for weeks.

I've read this line too many times. What freaky shit are these girls doing with Chad that they're not doing with Beta Barry? Deep throat? Anal? Handcuffs?

What is it!?

teeelo · 2015-08-12T20:08:03+00:00

I swear it feels like some people make up these elaborate stories just to make TRP more valid or confirm feminist reactions from reddit.

These stories that pop up on here from r/relationships are impossible to verify, use throwaways and are just begging to have their troll bait taken.

Anyone else think these stories are just too convenient?

Title	The Cock Carousel, Beta Bucks, and Polygraphs. r/relationships case file #976224
Author	A_Roasted_Peanut
Upvotes	301
Comments	188
Date	August 12, 2015 12:53 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3gpty9/the_cock_carousel_beta_bucks_and_polygraphs/
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