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[–]Nybaz741 points742 points743 points 4 years ago (97 children) | Copy Link
They know it's a common tactic, and it still works?
Disgusting
[–]MrTT3388 points389 points390 points 4 years ago (69 children) | Copy Link
because the state want to give the child to mother in the first place, they just need a reason or in this case, a reasonable doubt
[–]MarzMonkey146 points147 points148 points 4 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Unsubstantiated claims are not reasonable doubt
[–]MrTT3117 points118 points119 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
"you should always trust women, she would never made it up if there are no reason to". It's sarcarsm btw, my bad, i should have put reasonable doubt in quotation
[–]MarzMonkey44 points45 points46 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It's sarcarsm btw, my bad, i should have put reasonable doubt in quotation
Oh god I've become one of those people that can't read sarcasm! Fuck!
[–]candid_canid22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's not your fault, my dude. This world is getting so goddamn crazy that Poe's Law has become all but universal.
Without /s tagging it, anything we say to parody the insanity of our current world will just sound like our current world.
[–]nigga_phil4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Happened to me yesterday, jokes on them! LOL
[–]kaydawg232 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ditto
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[–]Pitchlinkonline13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I had no idea of this (the /s denoting sarcasm). Thank you. My native language is sarcasm and I've had trouble communicating effectively online.
[–]AeternusDoleo12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So just make a signature that reads "/s" ;)
[–]Memcallen5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be careful not to overuse /s, only use it when you're near poes law level sarcasm/satire. People will mock you if you don't
[–]AllWomenLie1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They do, all the time
[–]inverseyieldcurve0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you have to put the /s then you’re either shit at commenting or the person reading doesn’t deserve to have it explained to them.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
only retarded braindead soys use /s
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
In family court they are... well they are not but "Reasonable Doubt" is not the standard for Family Court so Unsubstantiated claims is more than enough for the Family Court
"Reasonable Doubt" is for a criminal trial only
[–]Rducky2311 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't you know that even some politicians are now saying that hearsay is more important than actual facts.
[–]some1arguewithme74 points75 points76 points 4 years ago (48 children) | Copy Link
Because the federal government gives matching funds to the court for every dollar it orders in child support or spousal support. The court is incentivized to fleece the parent that actually makes money.
[–]Mort118629 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So much for the legal system being fair and just, put money in the equation and all that righteous BS goes out the window.
How are we expected to behave as decent human beings when the very institutions that serve to protect us is more corrupt and vile than a bangkok hookers vagina.
[–]pandolfio25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why are you insulting Bangkok hookers? They're nowhere near as bad as these institutions
[–]Smokkmundur10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah exactly, hooker pussy is often cleaner and likely often std free than your average thot.
They know how to keep their moneymaker clean and prestine.
[–]Infinitewisdom19842 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The first mistake is actually buying into the idea that courts and police are there to "serve and protect" us. HA! They are there to keep order and protect the elite.
[–]hakoonamatata912 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Good. Actually "makes money" is the key everyone shld remember here. Soon many men will start asking for alimony and child support.
[–]squishles7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
watch how fast those laws dissapear when that starts being a more common thing.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, when women start to become affected, things will change. Estranged dads killing themselves en masse for decades apparently not enough reason to fix a broken system.
[–]SkyiHiker10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You mean to milk. 😁
[–]hill12055 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Wow, quick google search shows this is true. Madness.
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Then you have failed at google
What google actually says is that the Federal Government Reimburses the state 66% of their COSTS to manage child support payments and collections
The states in no way get "matching funds"
[–]hill120512 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Of course it’s matching. Not 100 percent.
I also am not playing the lawyer game where every word has to be 100% accurate in order to understand the point.
Grow up and have an adult conversation.
The point is the government both state and federal benefit from taking money from fathers.
[–]Jugad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
There is another issue with the claimed matching by the federal govt...
the Federal Government Reimburses the state 66% of their COSTS to manage child support payments and collections
Cost to manage child support and collections are not equivalent to the amount of child support.
Googling definitely failed this time.
[–]hill12050 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Again, you’re trying to pick apart the argument to avoid the fact that the federal government has an interest in taking money from working parents.
[–]Jugad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
to avoid the fact that the federal government has an interest in taking money from working parents.
I am definitely not looking at that while there are glaring holes in the comment.
However, I would like to learn what's the fed's interest in taking money from working parents?
Believe me... I have no interest in avoiding that fact. After all, we are on MGTOW. I just move one step at a time.
[–]hill12051 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
The comment was imprecise, but the meaning of the comment was clear and accurate.
The wording wasn’t exact but why does it need to be in a conversation?
[–]buwow9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You're kinda splitting hairs. The salient point is, the states have an incentive to order and collect child support to get the costs of collection reimbursed by the federal gov't and state taxpayers. Gov't wants to get bigger, with larger staff, budgets, salaries, and pensions. From their perspective they forgo free money when they don't order and collect child support.
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're kinda splitting hairs.
No I am not, Contributing 66% of costs to a run a government program is a far cry from "federal government gives matching funds to the court for every dollar it orders in child support" which was the claim
Further to believe this narrative you would have to believe the government is a borg like entity run by an illumiti like precious. This type of narrative is fit for a conspiracy site but not a serious conversation
There is no connection between court awards for child support and this program. NONE. show me one tangible example that there is...
The Court System and the Administrative System that get this money are completely separate
You guys are focusing completely on the wrong thing to attack
[–]Jugad1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow... that's insane. Do you have a source for that law/rule?
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect-2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is fasle, people like /u/some1arguewithme are either a Troll attempting to discredit the men'ss movement or someone taken in by a troll that is trying
Posts like this serve as ammo for people want to show the MRM movement and other mens movements as crazy.
[+]SirYouAreIncorrect-7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
No it does not and I wish people would stop claiming it does
[–]some1arguewithme7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=federal+government+gives+matching+funds+for+child+support
Edit: your username! We are like two peas in a pod!
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect-3 points-2 points-1 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
No, you see I am correct where you are not
For every dollar a state or local government spends on the child support program, it receives 66 cents from the federal government
This is the costs to operate the Collection and Distribution of Payments, THIS IS NOT THE PAYMENTS THEMSELVES
The federal government is covering the COSTS of the states because the federal government put in place requirements that all states must follow as it pertains to reporting, collections, and dismemberment of child support, since these are federal requirements then the federal government has to pay for them
If a man is paying $1000 in child support, the federal government IS NOT giving the state $1000 also. That is not how any of this works
[–]some1arguewithme4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
so what you're saying is the court is incentivised to impose child support from because the federal government is offering it additional money for when it imposes child support?
https://youtu.be/tDcs2Ga2abA
Starting at 3:50 money quote at 4:13
Big giant fucking text card at exactly 5:00
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, that is not what I am saying at all, The court system see;s none of that federal money in the first place, in the second place the Amount of child support paid is not connected in anyway with the costs or payments by the federal government.
Your youtube video is not proof of anything, go read that actual law.
You have zero understanding of how any of this works, and that is a problem for people that actually want to reform the system and know what is going on in reality, not under a tin foil hat.
[–]some1arguewithme1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
You are incorrect and you are accusing me exactly of your own faults. Pure projection.
https://youtu.be/M3w1jMUErpA
https://youtu.be/dkouSrZnWBM
[–]SirYouAreIncorrect0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Am I now...
Well Lets take a look then shall we
Title IV-D of the Social Security Act § 455 - PAYMENTS TO STATES
It says the states get money for
equal to the percent specified in paragraph (2) of the total amounts expended by such State during such quarter for the operation of the plan approved under section 454
Paragraph 2 is a Calendar based rollout implementation, after 1990 the states get 66%
Then they get money for:
equal to the percent specified in paragraph (3) of the sums expended during such quarter that are attributable to the planning, design, development, installation or enhancement of an automatic data processing and information retrieval system
Then:
equal to 66 percent of so much of the sums expended during such quarter as are attributable to laboratory costs incurred in determining paternity
and Finally they get money for
equal to 66 percent of the sums expended by the State during the quarter for an alternative statewide system for which a waiver has been granted under section 452(d)(3), but only to the extent that the total of the sums so expended by the State on or after the date of the enactment of this subparagraph does not exceed the least total cost estimate submitted by the State pursuant to section 452(d)(3)(C) in the request for the waiver;
No where in Title IV-D of the Social Security Act does it provide for "matching Child Support Payments" No where
[–]Jugad-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
You guys (/u/some1arguewithme /u/SirYouAreIncorrect) have perfect usernames for arguments :-)
As I see it, you are changing your position from a detail based one
federal government gives matching funds to the court for every dollar it orders in child support or spousal support
to an overall one
court is incentivised to impose child support
However, you are wrong on both accounts - in both the detail based and the overall point.
On the first one, fed funds have nothing to do with the amount that the court ordered for child support.
On the second point, the other guy is stating law that federal govt pays 66% of money spent by state govt for running the child support program.
This implies that if state spends x dollars to maintain the child support program, federal govt will give them back 0.66x. The state still loses 0.34x money which they spent in maintaining the program - that 0.34x is not coming back to the state or the courts. That is not an incentive... that's just reducing the burden - a discount to maintain the program. The state loses money on running the program, and the feds reduce the loss, but the state still loses money.
It would only be an incentive if feds paid more than 100% of the money spent by the state on maintaining the program. That way, the state would gain money and would actually be "incentivized" to do more of it.
Given that the state doesn't actually gain anything by running the program, except the fact that the feds make it less costly for them to run it, they have no incentive to expand it. State loses money by expanding it... and the more they expand it, the more money they lose.
[–]some1arguewithme0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
While you are correct, i am doing a bit of shifting from detail to overall; the facts of the matter add up to the money offered by the federal government incentivising judges to give child support orders. In the video I linked at the 5 minute mark you can see that not only does the federal law offer funds but texas state has written a law mandating judges order child support to maximize federal funds. "Sec. 201.107c the presiding judges and the title iv-d agency shall act and are authorized to take any action necessary to maximize the amount of federal funds available under title iv-d program." you and u/siryouareincorrect fail to realize that your theoretical knowledge of the justice system is not how the justice system opperates in practice. the law doesn't get carried out the attendant policies and procedures are what gets enacted. so Here we have a clear example! while my original claim may have been hyperbolic it still has a veracity to it.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/FA/htm/FA.201.htm
[–]Jugad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
"Sec. 201.107c the presiding judges and the title iv-d agency shall act and are authorized to take any action necessary to maximize the amount of federal funds available under title iv-d program."
The only people who benefit from this law are the people who are paid by the state for maintaining the program. Did these lawyers / contractors manage to get this law enacted?
Because this law is detrimental to the state... the more money they get from federal funds implies the state is losing more money. This law essentially says that the courts must make the state lose money... and that money goes into the pockets of the people maintaining the program.
That's some fucked up capitalism right here... just like the prison system.
[–]Jugad0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And as always... they have hidden their real reason for the law by hiding it behind "maximize federal funds available to state".
the facts of the matter add up to the money offered by the federal government incentivising judges to give child support orders
You have yet to explain how this works
The Child Support system exists for good reasons, unless you believe there should never be any child support at all. That is not what most people believe
i believe the system needs MASSIVE overhaul, including requiring the recipient of the support payments to show how they are being spend on the child
but I do believe in a child support system
Sounds more like you want to have a Pump and Dump life with out having to be responsible for any off spring you make.
That is not MGTOW my friend.
Sec. 201.107c
Of what? sounds like you are getting your information from YouTube Videos, and Hyperbolic Conspiracy sites, not original sources. So after I tear one of your claims down with original sources you go back to your click farm to find some other reference that looks legit to post
TITLE IV (aka Title 4) does not have a Sec. 201.107c. All Sections in Title IV (aka 4) start with 400, thus the name Title 4...
Title II (title 2) of the act which does have a Sec 201, (but not a 201.107c) is about old age retirement.
So please link to the actual source in the law your quote is from
For feel free to find it, here is the Social Security Act we have been talking about
https://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/ssact/ssact-toc.htm
[–]EzraThereaux2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The system is inverted. To walk into a courtroom is to be seen as guilty. Evidence need not apply.
[–]ideserveall45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
same as rape accusations. works every time.
[–]lhllfptt56 points57 points58 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How about #BelieveEvidence
[–]eduardkoopman26 points27 points28 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That only counts, when the happiness of women isn't jeopardised.
When it "hurts" women, there will be worked towards an outcome where women get their way.
[–]lhllfptt5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The sad truth right there
[–]eduardkoopman20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
and it still works?
Men need to not be suprissed anymore. Fairness and logic, are not important.
Gynocentrism, "the happiness" of the female is ALL that is important.
[–]Jugad2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
No one likes a whiner, but they sure let them get their way... to stop their whining. Alas, it's only temporary and they learn to whine/nag more when they want something.
[–]TacoBell199715 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
"Going 'nuclear': A way of winning a battle otherwise unwinnable, but which has the potential to destroy both parties involved."
-Enrico Fermi, 1943
Edit: Prayers to that guy. Betrayal/perfidy is the highest form of evil.
[–]haptizum0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Is that similar to mutual assured destruction?
[–]WikiTextBot0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mutual assured destruction
Mutual(ly) assured destruction (MAD) is a doctrine of military strategy and national security policy in which a full-scale use of nuclear weapons by two or more opposing sides would cause the complete annihilation of both the attacker and the defender (see pre-emptive nuclear strike and second strike). It is based on the theory of deterrence, which holds that the threat of using strong weapons against the enemy prevents the enemy's use of those same weapons. The strategy is a form of Nash equilibrium in which, once armed, neither side has any incentive to initiate a conflict or to disarm.
The term "mutual assured destruction" was coined by Donald Brennan, a strategist working in Herman Kahn's Hudson Institute in 1962.
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[–]haptizum0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good bot.
[–]p_noid11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The state has nothing to lose from siding with the mother, but the other option is granting custody to an accused molester. We live in a society that is immersed in victim-worship, and woman beats man in victim status. No one really cares about men's rights.
I've actually seen the reverse happen. The father's side made some false accusations of abuse, though non-sexual. He didn't win but joint custody sharing 50% of the time isn't exactly a loss either.
The state fears embarrassment, but not disagreement. If you say that they were wrong to side with the insane mother, tough cookies. Vote... or something... They just did the easy, rational thing to do.
A system of competing courts and judges would go a long way in making them care about being fair.
[–]simplisticallysimple9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It's like a checkmate move. Accuse her before she accuses you. Why not, women have zero conscience anyway.
[+]p_noid-7 points-6 points-5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You've never known ANY good women?
Be it clear for all the manginas out there: We don't care about exceptions, if I give you a parachute and tell you it has a 1% chance of working correctly, you'd still say jumping with it is suicide.
[–]obTAA13 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Almost impossible to really know more than 2-3 women in a lifetime. People's true colors only start showing up after a few years of living together, and more often after going through troubled times (financial troubles, losing job, health problems, etc).
So its not really surprising if someone says that they don't know even a single good woman. Their sample size is necessarily small, but they are stating the truth nevertheless.
I am sure there are some women out there who understand whats wrong with gold-diggers and feminism (when its taken too far in the wrong directions...), and are good partners for their husbands. However, they are probably in the minority... like MGTOW men, with little chance that MGTOW men can meet them, because they will probably be already happy with their husbands (who don't need to GTOW).
[–]Lacrimosa2k711 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hell, my lawyer said the same thing when I was falsely accused. She even sat down for the better half of an hour listing all her clients and situations they went though that succumbed to imprisonment, suicide and a stained reputation after talking to/firing a woman, getting divorced or dropping home students or a stranger as a gesture of good will.
[–]Cade_Connelly_137 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There is no trick too dirty for a divorcing woman to use. None.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They're not even "tricks" anymore, it's just SOP for a woman to get what she wants during divorce.
"Can I say your husband beat you?" "Sure." "Inappropriately touched the kids?" "Yep." "Drug abuse? Gambling addiction? Cheated?" "Go nuts."
[–]Cade_Connelly_134 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I retract my previous statement. On further consideration you're 100% right.
[–]monkensteinxstupido5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Had this happen to a friend of mine. She cried child molestation during divorce and it took my friend $15,000 to clear his name WHILE he had to pay the courts child support because the mother was deemed unfit.
THEN she ran away with them 1600 miles away and we had to drive there, go through court there, win, and drive them back in one weekend.
[–]someone-farted5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely disgusting.
What’s more is that this is only one of MANY tactics used by women in custody battles when they feel like their case is in danger of flopping.
One of my personal favorites was one I experienced during my own parents’ divorce - my mother accused my father of heinous violence toward her and myself (and siblings) to gain favor with the judge.
[–]Fabianstrategy12 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's likely because in the 1% of cases where it's true the judge doesn't want to be the guy that let it happen so they just make blanket calls from the bench because they dont give a shit about anyone but themselves.
[–]hajamieli3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So would a valid countertactic be to claim the mother / mother's boyfriend before they get upper hand at claiming first?
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the amount of stuff the courts allow without solid proof is actually surprising. For example lets say "jessica" files a restraining order against "bob". If "jessica" feels like lieing and says bob is breaking the order, a judge will usually side with "jessica", arrest 'bob", and than bob has to fight his way out of it in court, but after hes already been arrested and slandered
[–]Nemoitto2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And I feel so bad for this guy. I wanna tear up.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's just like playing a game against your worst enemy, but it's you enemy's father who decides who has won the game.
[–]drmangrum1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because they work under the premise that it's better to ere on the side of caution. They'd rather destroy 1000 families than let one child be molested. I understand their reasoning, but there's sold be some evidence required, especially when it's so common for women to lie.
[–]BiffBiffBiff27294 points295 points296 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
If someone makes this sort of claim and it later turns out to be bullshit they should be jailed for 10 years.
Might make women and their shyster lawyers think twice before pulling that bullshit.
[–]BertTheWelder75 points76 points77 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I know you can sue someone for libel or defamation. What I don’t know is if you can garnish someone’s alimony or child support payments. I’m guessing probably yes to alimony but no to child support.
Wouldn’t that be great? Sue her and take away the money you’re supposed to pay her. If this happens and gets press a half a dozen times, women will cut back on this shit.
[–]ncarolina6676 points77 points78 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The real problem is with the lawyers telling their clients to do this unlawful act, they should ALL lose their licenses and be able to be sued in court for damages.
[–]BertTheWelder14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I do know for a fact that a lawyer can lose their license if they encourage a client to commit perjury. The problem is that unless the woman specifically says “this didn’t happen, but I want to lie about it,” the lawyer doesn’t know the client is lying.
Yep. The lawyer would have some very leading and obvious questions that would tiptoe crossing the line but wouldn't be enough to nail them.
[–]RunawayGrain16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I know you can sue someone for libel or defamation.
So when I was looking at going after my crazy ex, the concept of being "Judgement Proof" was introduced to me. In layman's terms it pretty much means "Yeah you would probably win the court case. They just wouldn't ever pay." Also most judgment, at least in the U.S. expire after a set amount of time unless you go back to court, incurring more costs, and get them renewed. Notice that child support is exempt, so most likely she'd just live off that and in turn try to get it increased. Of course if you kept the judgement up until child support ended, she'd be in bad shape once that ran out.
[–]Chronic_Messiah3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Is this not what garnishment exists for?
[–]Nagi210 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Garnishment is not legal in every state and is usually not allowed for private judgements with some exceptions.
[–]Joco1515153 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Life in prison
[–]BobbingForBunions2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't want to pay for the liar's incarceration, meals, etc.
A bullet is cheaper.
[–]coagulated_cumquats0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's proving a negative - unless she cites specific dates and times (and their lawyer would advice never to do that) and the guy has a video alibi, or 100 witnesses, there's no comeback.
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[–]Cuntfart900042 points43 points44 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
The ex was fvcking absolutely livid that I threw a b-day party for my daughter before she did
Why the fuck would that matter? Don't parents of broken homes always thow two parties for their kid(s)? My parents divorced, and that's what they did. I divorced, and that's what I do.
My ex has not once had a problem with it. She is happy for my daughter that she has a father who cares about her enough to throw a 2nd birthday party for her at my house, and she doesn't care one bit what order the parties are. Your ex sounds like she has borderline personality disorder and/or narcissistic personality disorder.
[–][deleted] 72 points73 points74 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Most single mothers want the child to hate their father. Throwing birthday parties is good way to tell your kid you care about them and cost money. Many fathers are willing to spend that money. Most mothers would rather spend that money on pedicures, makeup and high heels
[–]WanderlustYouth34 points35 points36 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This my mother always lied about my father, to the point of even telling me he was dead, now i go and see him about once a month, and he's a pretty okay guy
[–][deleted] 33 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most are. Fathers generally care about their children. Most mothers only care about the money they get as a result of children. Are there exceptions to these? Of course but they're exceptions not the rule
[–]beenthere78923 points24 points25 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This.
Dated many simgle moms before gyow. A common thread thread is getting kids to hate their fathers , both overtly and covertly
[–]spaceman_spliff77721 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bingo. My mom did everything to get me to think my dad was a family bailing POS. Imagine being such an asshole that you think brainwashing a 3rd grader is OK......
My dad told me my mom was basically a thirsty bitch who couldn’t get over a 3 month relationship she had in her 20’s with some Chad.
In my late teens/early 20’s, I realized they were both right about each other. Sometimes both parties are complete shit heads who never should have had kids.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look up "weaponizing children" - it's something a parent (normally the mother) does to alienate the other typically non-custodial parent.
[–]Hot5oup5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There’s no language filter on here
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[–]veasel79163 points164 points165 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Happened to me during my divorce/custody battle. When “rape” allegations didn’t work, the next move was to accuse me of molesting my children. Only thing that saved me was my children were interviewed by the court individually prior at the start of the trial so all her bullshit did nothing.
Today my kids live with me full time and they are doing great. What happened to my ex after all the false accusations and slanderous attacks that I had to endure ?????
Nothing absolutely nothing .....
[–]ncarolina6647 points48 points49 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Hopefully if there is a just God, she will be rolling on a spit in hell for eternity.....and YES, what she and other woman do is that fucking bad. Evil cunts.
[–]teelolws36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If it weren't for them we would still be in the garden of eden.
[–]xXx420VTECxXx1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it weren't for women and the children of the lie there wouldn't be a hell.
[–]breathen12315 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If there were no welfare and public healthcare, she would have spent the remaining years of her life in hell, where she'd be used and abused by men, just to get a few breadsticks worth of cash, and later, she'd end up in a ditch after getting stabbed
That was the fate for infidel women and for women who made the mistake of losing her virginity before marriage back then, and if we are to bring society back from the ashes, the punishment ought to fall on them again
[–]AviTech72104 points105 points106 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
And why do men have a higher suicide rate than women?
[–]Cyronsan30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Obviously because they are the weaker sex, and cannot be strong and beautiful like da whamen.
[–]UnKnownSurviving9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Happy cake day.
[–]AviTech724 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks
[–]larag567869 points70 points71 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Been there, done that. Publicity was my weapon. Everyone knew me, everyone knew my daughter. Everyone understood how absurd was the claim. My ex put herself publicly as a complete idiot.
[–]Barosane55 points56 points57 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This used to be a HUGE problem in Sweden back in the nineties. So huge that something like 50% of the fathers in custody battles were accused of molesting their kids.
After a while a reporter decided to do something about it and wrote a book, but sadly that book was ice cold because literally nobody (besides the fathers) cared about it. This was a while ago so I don’t remember all the details, but it was a huge problem and nobody gave a shit about it. Many fathers died in prison because of this - either by killing themselves or being beaten to death.
[–]Original_Username713 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But you’re saying it used to be a problem? Did it change?
[–]Barosane7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well I honestly don’t know, but I think it did. It was like an epidemic in the nineties so..
[–]dogsrule20195 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What caused this behavior to stop, do you think?
[–]Phantom_Spark40 points41 points42 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Glad you’re getting help... but I would be worried the therapist would argue it’s the mothers right to destroy you because of her fee-fee’s. She feels she is only protecting her daughter and destroying a man is par for the course for women.
Three problem is that losing the ability to trust women in this situation is rational. It’s not some problem. Any human being that is put in a situation where bad behavior is taught, encouraged and almost never punished will rot from the inside. Power corrupts. Women are being handed power over everything and they are being corrupted by it because they hold no accountability. I wouldn’t trust women either in the course of marriage and kids.
If they want trust? They’re going to have to sacrifice and put themselves into a situation where punishment is very severe and highly probable for bad behavior.
But what therapist is honest enough to admit these things? I suspect they will either focus on behaviorism which means they will talk about your behavior and coping mechanisms to help you get back to the way you were... OR they will simp for the female and say she did nothing wrong and you need to man up.
[–]DarkOneoftheOutside42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have a very similar story. I went to a therapist and - after laying out the details of how my ex lied in court resulting in me losing parenting privileges (I’m not a fucking visitor to my sons) - this guy comes at me talking about “forgiveness.”
Without even acknowledging the pain or the injustice of the situation this therapist told me I should forgive my ex...for a situation where she is still actively blocking me from them mind you (haven’t seen my boys in over 2 years now).
Therapy is gynocentric new age bullshit. I wish there was a directory of red pilled therapists...
[–]Renzolol17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I went to a therapist and she spent the whole hour talking about herself. I barely got a word in. Never went back.
Have to agree. Therapists aren't fountains of wisdom, they're just normal people who listen to other people, run through a textbook list of methods to address issues (most of which revolve around more talking sessions at market rate) and don't involve any practical solutions to a problem.
[–]DJBuzzyBuzz38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Those bitches simultaneously see their children as (a) an economic resource to secure child support and welfare, (b) a weapon to harm the fathers and (c) an impediment to their new lives partying and riding the carousel.
[–]oirectine0031 points32 points33 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Common tactic". That's all you have to know.
"WhY aRe MeN aFrAiD oF cOmMiTmEnT"
[–]TheLastMgtow8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"The atom bomb of custody settlements."
"Just hold frame bruh."
[–]debanked28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Narcissistic bitch
[–]teatdip10225 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m a mildly logical person. I see lots of horror stories about custody battles and botched marriages kids being used as leverage.. and I think to myself. Why the F would I ever get married or have kids?!
[–]simplisticallysimple5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Natural simps always want to justify simping somehow. Can't be helped. They just have the slave mentality.
[–]Kotaro-Atani2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand what you say and in this day and age, I agree with you, but some men, especially before YouTube and when sites like this, that you can learn about the Red Pill, MGTOW and Female Nature. Some me including myself always thought it was the next stage of a relationship, to get married and have kids. We didn't have the information we have now, there was no Sandman or TFM, to teach us, my father didn't teach me about this (hell, he was married twice), I had a horrific marriage and had to learn about this on my own through searching it out (on YouTube and the web) and then when I learned the truth, the RP rage hit and I was pissed, at times I still am to this day.
I wanted a woman to love and have her love me back and to grow old with, not this truth that women can't love us like we love them. That AWALT is every woman, that I can't just love them and they love us back with honesty and loyalty, I wanted the damn fantasy, but it's not true and like most say= it was a hard pill to swallow.
So now I try to share knowledge of MGTOW, the Red Pill and female nature to those that I feel are ready and try to make them aware, and you know damn well I've already told my Son about this since he hit 18 and try to prepare him for whatever relationshit he gets into.
Men need to know this (about Female nature and marriage) and the Danger that women can get you into (where they lie to you, manipulate you and use you for what they want and then will kick you to the curb when it's in their best interests, including lying to others to try to destroy you).
Some people have told me im too vicious or treat women horribly and that's not MGTOW (on this Forum), I don't care what they say as I Go My Own Way and do what I damn please and if a woman tries to destroy either my son or I, I will perform Scorched Earth and burn everything that needs to be, if needed.
I am too old for BS games, I just tell them (Women) what I want and what i am gonna do and I do it, and what I will and will not stand for, and that means I have standards, like honor and Loyalty and that means I expect them (the female to follow that as well, and if they don't they know that they will be kicked to the curb, and if that means I have to lay down my life to do it (regardless of what the law states), I will.
[–]MGTOW_IN_JAPAN27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Holy shit. This happened to my dad and my little sister. The judge later told me in private he though my dad was innocent. The "witness" also got a very large sum of CHRISTMAS money (note this witness was not family) after the trial about a year later from the mom (not my real mom)
My dad went to jail for many years over this. I'll never know 100% if he's innocent or not, but I've also been suspicious.
Edit: as awful as it is what happened to this person, I've never been able relate about this with anyone.
[–]TheUser4218 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m sorry to hear that. When I read about the judge later telling you that he thought your dad was innocent, I got mad. It’s exactly what happened to me in a similar manner but in fourth grade. I was falsely accused by a girl who claimed that I said: “All Puerto Rican’s are dumb”. I’d never say something like that, never mind the fact that one of my friends was Puerto Rican.
That girl and like 4 other people(who were all in my class had something against me) accused me and acted like they all witnessed it. I was shocked because that’s something I’d never say or do. Never mind that I was at recess with other people playing soccer.
Long story short, the principal said he’d give me one more chance or he’d call my parents. I broke down and cried, thinking that I’d be free to go back to recess if I lied to him and said that I said that. I did so and I ended up staying in the office, missing out and he STILL called.
I went to the bathroom after I was free to go. The friend who was Puerto Rican came and told me that he knew that I was innocent. I asked him why he didn’t stand up, he said that he was scared.
Ironically enough, my own teacher one day punished the whole class for misbehaving(I was the only one allowed to go to recess after helping someone clean up their dropped pencils).
It’s a shame that I went through that at a young age. Sadly, this happens in real life more frequently, with harsher effects.
[–]Cyronsan25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
"But hey, merry quickly and have children to save western civilization, men. Men up! Don't be a MGTOW loser."
- Tradcons that weren't hit yet.
[–]CeleritySteam7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, tradcucks have a cuck fantasy. Even their programming manual, the Bible openly curses men for taking wahmans seriously. They get off on being cucked though so they do it anyways, that is the only explanation.
Funny thing though, the curse was just "You must work for your food now by farming".
[–]Cyronsan4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
They won't take women off the pedestal.
[–]CeleritySteam2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Programming manual. They're Adam even after seeing what a bad deal it is.
[–]StrawhatMucci3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not mgtow but yeah with laws like this, im not marrying for sure, specially in your countries lol.
[–]liquorbaron2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If marriage and marriage laws were the same way it was half a century or a century ago then yeah it would be fine. Getting a divorce back in the day was a super shameful act. You just didn't do it. Both people would be looked at as outcast lepers by the rest of the community. Nevermind getting the law involved.
Problem is weak willed men allowed women's innate deceptive behaviour to take precedence over other experienced men's better judgement on matters concerning women. In other words weak men put women on a pussy pedestal that result in the shitshow that things currently are. Had men just said, "Shut up bitch" like they had throughout all of human history then we all wouldn't be dealing with the fallout from that weakness now.
[–]Cyronsan0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can't go back. It's not just law, it's culture. It's a pandora box.
[–]liquorbaron0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unfortunately it will take hard times to breed hard men again. If ever another economic collapse happens I could see a breakdown in society leading to bloodshed. All of this sjw shit would go out the window then. Only other way is a drastic pushback against how things currently are; the pendulum swinging back the other way. Can't really see that one happening though. IF you want to see how things will go I would suggest looking at and following how Japan deals with it because they're further down that road than the US. The next generation of men in Japan could end up aggressive and violent.
[–]Hawgster19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If I had enough money to afford a lawyer and fought my ex this sounds like something she would have pulled. All of this bullshit affects the kids more than anyone. Women can be so fucking selfish and disgusting.
[–]Zackville17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a case to share. Sometime ago a famous soccer player called Neymar got accused o rape by a woman he met in a hotel room in Paris. The idiot woman even filmed the whole situation in secrecy to use it against him. It happens he shares their chat and the videos on internet clearly showing that it was something planned before. To resume the opera, she wasn't able to prove she got raped, her ex husband told news channel she was a crazy unstable bitch, she throwed away her phone which contained "proof" of the rape. In the end he was considered inocent (mostly because he is milionarie and has infinite resources and best laywers). But here is the best part. Despite having lost money and business oportunities, he could not prove he did not raped her so he couldn't sue her for false rape accusation. The moral is, they can damage your life and reputation without proof and you will never be able to do anything because even if you didn't raped her, you can't prove it. I recommend anyone here to secretely record any human interaction with a woman. Just keep the recordings to yourself. If the time comes, you will be glad to have them.
[–]npcdestroyer16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He shouldnt try to regain his trust in women, especially not through a therapist. Also shouldnt try to regain his trust in this flawed system which is entirely hostile to men. A healthy dose of guarded suspicion will safe his life from now on.
[–]IkemenKyoushi2314 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My reaction to this? FUCK ALL THESE LIMP-DICK LAWYERS, AND CHICKEN-SHIT BUREAUCRATS!
[–]EdwardSandchest0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Limp dick? Dude got paid to fuck over a rival male; thats alpha af.
[–]shellbross11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And now the mother will call him a deadbeat dad and berate him everyday to their daughter because "daddy abandoned you"...
Honestly, just don't have children, ever. That current society doesn't deserve to continue, just let it die.
[–]GoodMan_Gone6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes I wonder what kind of hell people are creating for themselves and other people in this clown world. I also can't believe the witch hunt being put up. Furthermore: I can imagine one day people won't believe those stories anymore, letting the actual abusers off the hook....
[–]Original_Username79 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This happened to me too, multiple times! It’s taken nearly all of my money, I no longer trust people, and I video all my time with my daughter now. I am guilty until proven innocent. I have never once done anything wrong, and am an exemplary parent. At any moment my ex decides she wants to, she makes up a lie or two about me abusing my daughter, the state revokes my access to her, and I have to re-engage in supervised visitations again. I have done YEARS of supervised visits. My ex needs no proof, and it’s instantaneous. I’ve almost gotten used to it now. My ex gets proven to be lying under oath, and nothing ever happens to her. Believe it or not, there are many that have it much worse than me. I honestly hate this society and want to see it burn.
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not only is it a common tactics but the courts do nothing to punish the mother for her lies.
As always women get a pussypass.
[–]MuleFool427 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is what feminists want. Inequality. They would never fight for these tactics to be eliminated, which is why it's never been about equality. It's always been about female privilege.
[–]Lord_Teapot4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sickening and the definition of why i'll never have kids or ever consider a serious relationship with a woman again.
[–]Mort11865 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why not just say the Mother and step mother take turns molesting the child?
When the man accuses the woman, suddenly due process and evidence is required.
[–]flightrescue16 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I’m sorry, man. But good for you for pushing on anyway. I don’t know that I’d have that kind of strength. In fact, losing my kids, I KNOW I wouldn’t be strong enough. Sure, that may be a weakness in me, I’ll admit, but I’m pretty sure I’d just check out.
[–]PolukranosWordEater4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's what courts and people don't understand or care to.
Your whole world has neen upended. One day you're a family and the next your now EX is out fucking other men and your kids vanish. But yet you are expected to be, at your lowest point in your life, a strong calculating player in the courts. Anything less and the system and your ex will absolutely NOT hesitate to capitalize on any weaknesses..
A lot of men just after losing everything don't have any gas left in the tank to fight.. Some withdraw away. Some turn to alcoholism. But at the end of the day, you are alone.
[–]flightrescue17 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh I know, my ex started fucking half the fire department while I was in the Middle East. I came home to what was supposed to be a warm welcome and a house that had finished being built just before I got home, it was our dream house. But what I actually got was my walking papers, no home, just a suitcase with my stuff in it. Everything else was taken from me. I had to go back to the sandbox 30 days later and She wouldn’t even answer the phone to let me talk to my 3 year old daughter. Even though the courts said I had free contact and 50% custody. There isn’t shit you can do about it. I petitioned the court several times over several different breaches in the parenting contract and they wouldn’t even let me argue my case in front of a judge. The whole system is against us.
[–]richEC6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And there's never any consequences for making a false accusation.
[–]NathanHollister6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The good news is, this guy won't be going back on the plantation
[–]jhooperp7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Speaking from experience, therapy isn’t any better. The therapist usually is some feminist whose wet dream is to hear the man’s problems and in turn make him think it’s all his fault. Whereas with women patients they try and make them understand it’s the man’s fault.
This. This is why “fuck women”
[–]MrMagtow5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Welcome to Divorce Inc.
For everyone else, there's a video.
[–]SpaceCowboy20967 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women would have to not want the child, or be an absolute crack whore, to not get custody of the child. It’s a rigged game brothers, quit playing something you can’t win.
[–]JimmyHasFun5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A friend of mine had this happen to him. ex wife accused him of molesting their daughter when he was divorcing her due to her drug use. He lost all custody immediately. His wife had even told people if he ever tried to divorce her she would do that. He worked for a company with a government contract, lost his job, friends, and daughter. He was left with nothing. He hasn't seen his daughter in over 10 years because he didn't have the funds to fight it after losing his job.
[–]MethaCat6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By the way he narrates this and judging by other comments, it seems that at least 50% of the problem relates to his daughter going along with this. If a simple interview with her daughter could clear him and his father of all charges, I wonder if that interview ever happened and what were his daughter's replies.
I can't imagine being able to cope with this, first you have a happy family and your daughter loves you, then they do a 180, some reality is scarier than fiction kind of thing.
[–]sea666kitty4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is a freaking pig. So sorry man.
[–]Natuasi5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don’t worry OP. Karma is a bitch.
[–]PolukranosWordEater2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She gets an all expense paid vacation to the carousel and he ends up alone picking up the pieces. Yeah. Karma...
[–]Natuasi2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah. She’s eventually going to run smack dab into the wall to live out the rest of her days as a spinster. Justice served.
[–]stent006 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t worry..: the ex is gonna rot in hell when she dies over this...
[–]Loomystic5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Common tactic" my god that's just awful
[–]scanfan20225 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Without real consequences and accountability for false accusations, this will sadly continue.
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that’s why you get a dog and forgo having kids
[–]LotBuilder5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How can they lie in court about something so serious without consequences?
[–]Whirrlz5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think its fucked up courts dont look at the stats. Single mothers are cancer to society. It's a fact.
[–]CpuDoc675 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My sister tried that crap on her ex-husband. After a long exhaustive investigation that found no evidence to support her bullshit.
[–]Frankh0765 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry to hear that. I have the shirt to prove it. been through the same shit with my ex-wife. Lost the relationship I had with my two daughters. My ex wouldn't follow the custody parenting orders. every other weekend, Wednesdays, and every other holiday and birthday. father's day. she would call and leave messages about not letting me seeing the kids. I would take the evidence to custody hearings and the judge wouldn't do a thing. this society is setup for the women to rip our wallets out through our testicles. It's good that you are seeking help. I've done the same. the only thing you can do to have a bit of your sanity is to keep the door open to your daughter. Someday she may try to reach out to you for a relationship.
[–]dalicatatonia5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My ex wife did this to me. She was the breadwinner by far. She filed divorce and demanded spousal/child support in her filing. After the court evaluated the financials and determined she would owe me, she dropped the atomic bomb to reduce her financial obligations. I didn't even ask for money. She forced the issue. We have boys so the molestation accusation probably wouldn't have stuck so she accused me of violence against them. Zero evidence. Zero prior complaints. Court treated me like a criminal.
She was cool too. Liked weird music. Didn't care about fashion. Didn't wear noticable make up. Wasn't overly concerned with money, as she married down with me. Don't kid yourselves.
[–]clayticus4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Extrodinary claims require extrodinary evidence... unless you're the family court.
[–]TheAnarxoCapitalist3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Another reason I'll have only boys. Girls are trouble on every dimension.
[–]simplisticallysimple3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
I didn't know you get to choose the gender of the child.
[–]TheAnarxoCapitalist4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Artificial insemination. 100% worth it.
[–]simplisticallysimple4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
It still doesn't shield you from sexual abuse allegations.
The problem is not the gender of the child, but the mother.
So the solution has to be to use a surrogate mother who's based in some 3rd world country, who will have zero hope of coming over to the US and tracking you down to sue you for custody etc.
[–]TheAnarxoCapitalist0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The allegation in the post is against the daughter.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And if the guy had a son instead of a daughter, it would be against the son.
[–]TheAnarxoCapitalist0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That's not as easy.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is for the mother. It's just an accusation.
[–]warsie1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sex selective abortios
[–]GGGGirthquake4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shit I'd say that the mom molested her first. Because fuck everyone right.
[–]ClowntownDenisen12345 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My mom pulled that shit on my dad during their separation/ divorce. At 7 years old I was prevented from seeing my father for nearly a year, and only got to see him for 1 hour long 'supervised visits' with a social service worker for 2 years following. It wasn't until I was 10 that I got to spend time with him alone, and not until I was 12 that I was allowed to spend the night at his place.
I'm nearly 40 years old now and I still vividly remember my father showing up at my school just to see me (during that year when he was completely blocked from doing so), and being dragged away by the police saying 'Your Father loves you' while my brother and I watched with tears streaming down our faces.
[–]MatSapientia4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What happened to his words against hers?
Why can’t he just accuse her back?
[–]raff_cl23 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I pass for a similar situation, mi ex wife suit me for money even if i pass more than 60% of my income.
What's happen i was almost arrested one step to go to the jail.
[–]Iskandar2595 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a tragic story but not unexpected. There was a male teacher at my friends all female school. He was a great teacher who tried his best to do his job well and get girls into university and encouraged STEM fields (while the female careers advisors told girls not to go into STEM fields).
One of the girls single mothers needed some cash so she told her daughter to tell the police the teacher sexually assaulted her after class, made up a whole fabricated story, media jumped on it like a bi**h in heat. His life was ruined and the mother sued him. Eventually the mother and daughter were found guilty of falsifying evidence (since the mother beat her daughter to make it look like a struggle) and assault among other charges.
Dude was found not guilty. The school didn’t like the bad press and fired him. Even when men are innocent they are bludgeoned by society and it makes me realise why some men choose to reject it entirely.
It’s understandable that many wealthy white me go to Eastern Europe or Asia for young trophy wives because those women know a good thing when they see it. Mutual benefit mutual gain. The west needs to really address its problem with aggressive spoilt women.
[–]TwistedBlister4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not just the women that pull this crap. My sister was going through a divorce, and my parents would babysit her kids often. Well the kid's father accused my dad of sexually abusing them during the custody battle. Of course, he later admitted that he lied. But once you make that kind of accusation, you can never take it back, it hurt my parents, my sister and the kids.
[–]_Maxie_3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The sad fact is that mothers are more likely to abuse their children - look it up.
[–]FriscoWolf4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
bUt tOxIc mAsCuLiNiTy
[–]Criket3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't let her be aware that you're seeing a psychiatrist. She will use it against you next time you go in court.
[–]red_matrix5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When there are no kids involved, divorce lawyers use the “silver bullet”, which is a made up claim that the husband assaulted the wife. Works every time. No wonder people have lawyers so much.
[–]HoldenBalzac3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Judges and courts are just bureaucrats. If they aren't involved in corruption/payoffs they'll usually take the easy way out. Given the volume of people they may see, after a while the people in the courtroom are just units to be processed, cases to be cleared as quickly as they can.
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[–]MissSoggyKnees0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The ol' pet sematary strategy.
[–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Every time I see a bum in the street, I wonder which soulless twat destroyed him.
[–]farrellsgone2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why I don't even like being in the same room as children alone. Allegations can ruin your life.
[–]Harrymego3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go your own way, man. You've been through enough.
[–]Robotchan662 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a result of men giving women the right to vote .
[–]rkelly1113 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So what learned from this is dont have kids and GMOW for survival.
[–]Lemaymaygentlesir4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just shows how (((justice system))) protects women no matter what
[–]Theanonymousman20002 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A woman, that falsely accused the father of there common child, for molesting. Should go to prison. I can't even comprehend how evil it is, to give such false accusations, and the worst thing is, that these insane women, don't face any consequences for their actions.
[–]Micky_25mufc2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's depressing as fuck
[–]giorgi0002 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Remember: when all this shit will be finally defeated, every woman will claim that they never supported these devastating behaviours and feminism. Remember.
I'm not saying he should murder her, but I'd understand if he did.
[–]Wardedbilledanteater2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope the therapy helps. However just use caution. Male and female therapists are feminists. They do not have an open mind. I hope you have a different experience. I did go to one good therapist. I think he was redpilled. Because he told me how fucked up some of his female patients are. How the female patient would try to get with therapists they got the tingles for. Popular belief is that men fall for female therapists. I think it’s the other way around
[–]SmallTowneBoy2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What a bitch move to pull
[–]bluegrayandgreen2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The lesson is don’t get married and don’t have kids. Because women use the kids as a way to punish you if they can’t control you.
[–]Sleepyboi96742 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Whatever fuck your daughter, she’s just gonna end up her mother anyway, you’re better off without either of them
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[–]f3m1n15m15c4nc3r2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck every single bitch who does this.
[–]Fantoche_Dreemurr2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Remember, every woman on earth will do this without a second of hesitation if she thinks it'll help her.
[–]complete-moral-decay2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s sickening. Hurts to read honestly.
[–]farmerfran10inch1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So, don't get married?
[–]redvisionsss1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus fucking Christ. I have dealt with a false rape accusation but this is beyond ugly. We have got to change the laws in this fucking country. This shit is so common it's disgusting. Dont. Trust. Women. Ever. And also this is something that NEVER gets talked about. How false rape accusations have a profound effect on mental health. I definitely have trust issues because of what I dealt with.
[–]seaworthy_mouse1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just another reason to avoid women at all costs
[–]jself12341 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That happened to my exes ex. Long story short, I always felt like someone should be in jail over this. But nope.
[–]Wardedbilledanteater1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🤡world. Yet some idiot men still cohabitation and marry.
[–]Knight19671 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Check out my MGTOW post.. There is hope my friend..
[–]CerebralAbrasion1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think of happiness derived from marriage like a stock. Say there was a stock which you could buy; at best it could gain say 20%. But on the flip side, not only can it go to 0 it can go infinitely below, putting you into massive debt and ruining you. A capped 20% gain in money/happiness while risking infinite misery and destruction. Now what if I told you it's probability of going down is 80%, probability of staying neutral is 10%, and only a 5% probability of hitting that 20% gain. Not a good stock right? That's how I estimate the risk profile of marriage.
[–]drunken_heretic1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wanted to link that entire thread here but couldn't cross post it. Truth bombs everywhere.
[–]lionheart-7771 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep I know how you feel brother, sending prayers
[–]CaliFloridaMan1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is horrible brother. Stay strong.
[–]IceHistory01 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus.. this is crazy! I can't believe my eyes right now
[–]defalt45neo1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FUCK WOMEN. JUST FUCK THEM ALL. I HATE THESE FUCKING CREATURES SO MUCH. THEY ARE THE MOST TOXIC FUCKING HUMAN BEINGS ON EARTH.
[–]_Okio_1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Has anybody else noticed how this very same story is being represented on other subs? Have a look at the "other discussions (2)" tab.
[–]B4K3R2451 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why I'll never get married or have a kid
[–]liquorbaron1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is why history has told us not to give women an inch because they will take a mile and cause the downfall of civilizations.
[–]Encrypted5871 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am so lost for words with this one, all I can say is sorry :(
[–]Gingham_Argile1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry. Remember... It is all about the long game. Your daughter will want the love of her father.
Your day will come.
Be well and don't give up. Stay on your personal purpose in being dope AF in all other things. You will be redeemed.
[–]JZSquared0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't know Lawrence, that sounds pretty evil to me.
[–]zucine0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the type of shit that drives people to murder other people.
These women will get what's coming to them and the law wont be able to help them
yup.. this kind of shit is just like the rest of the #metoo movement to destroy men.. its pretty much why i fucking just dispise everyone nowadays
[–]bfte20 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm so happy not having to deal with this shit.... That just ruins lives.
[–]ohgawdwhyme4560 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
first, I sympathize with this man.
secondly, why do the courts get "duped" everytime, if they were honest wouldn't they see this as bullshit tactic?
[+]caltactics-8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why should we feel sympathy for these morons and every guy in this situation? You’re an idiot who has the worst pull out game on the planet. She was crazy and you still fucked her. You knew it.
[–]caltactics0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Getting downvoted for spitting the truth. MGTOW is fucking soft.
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