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Girlfriend never creates drama. Never does anything weird. I don't know what to do.

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April 18, 2018

This is a weird post, and honestly it's done a bit tongue in cheek. But legitimately, sometimes I get a bit anxious about the fact that my LTR is going so well. It feels like it's wrong. RP has taught me that shit will hit the fan eventually.

My girlfriend just never, ever, creates drama. She never complains about anything, she's never upset, or moody, or "too tired". We have argued once, and it wasn't rly an argument, I just scolded her over some dumb shit.

She casually gave me her phone password maybe a month after we met. Never changed it. I use her phone for a lot of stuff since mine is shit, she's got notifications on home screen and doesn't use snapchat. She has my face plastered on all her social media. She tells me how she loves me so much every day, compliments me. She proudly introduced me to all of her family, I'm talking 40 people. Her childhood friends. And always brings up, "I have X friend, she rly wants to meet you".

I try to fuck with her sometimes, use some very subtle dread. But she doesn't bite. That's the weird part, she's got a super solid frame, she trusts me so much I can't hurt her without going nuclear. She never shit tests. And when she gives me a comfort test, I can't do anything but give her the answer she needs, because she deserves it.

It's pretty cool, but RP doesn't actually address this situation so much. I know I'm supposed to keep doing whatever I'm doing, but according to RP, it'll go wrong at some point anyway.

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Title Girlfriend never creates drama. Never does anything weird. I don't know what to do.
Author g4casting
Upvotes 128
Comments 139
Date 18 April 2018 09:34 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]Senior EndorsedVasiliyZaitzev132 points133 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bring her down to TRP Labs. We would like to study her, take DNA samples, and possibly replicate her for the broader market.....

[–]SuperCrazy07241 points242 points  (9 children) | Copy

You want things to stop going well?

Buy her an engagement ring, move in together, send her flowers everyday while you profess your undying love, and constantly ask if she's cheating on you.

[–][deleted] 86 points87 points  (5 children) | Copy

As a married man I want to laugh but my wife is right next to me and she might ask why so low key I’m enjoying this.

[–]BLVKEY17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exhibit A

[–]chasebandz0135 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Huskimbo94 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thats deep

[–]ATrashMan4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

reminds me of the "biiiiiiitcccch" sketch from key n peele

[–]11-Eleven-1110 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Basically this. Dont get comfortable and keep doing what you're doing until shit really does hit the fan, if that happens.

[–]Erthiros1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I couldn't have put it better myself

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pure gold sir.

[–]jclaytonc 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Sounds to me that she is in your frame and she thinks your SMV is higher than hers. Keep it that way. Remember, though, there are no unicorns. If you slip, she will reach for the next branch just like the rest.

[–]Austinisfullgohome29 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

🎶 If you want to be happy for the rest of your life🎶

🎶Never make a pretty woman your wife🎶

[–]UncleChido2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

But I love pretty women.

[–]yokohamalrasheid1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You think you do, you like the idea. You just don't know the reality.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (4 children) | Copy

I literally ended my last relationship because I realised how much better I was than the girl I was with, all she had going for her was looks which she let go of once we started dating, she couldn't believe I "didn't love her anymore" it was weird because in the span of a week or so I lost all attraction to her and breaking up with an ltr of over a year felt like nothing

[–]g4casting[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

To be fair my girl was like that at first. But I opened her to a lot of things, and she became much more interesting. She had no hobbies when I met her. Now she's rly into interior decoration and customisation, and photography. I introduced her to both, suggested we build her desk instead of buying it, and got her to buy a DSLR instead of a stupid compact camera. I would probably introduce her to more things if we lived together.

[–]pretty_bread1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah some girls depend on their looks and thats about it, they are uninteresting and boring to hangout with, plate status.

[–]needoptionsnow0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just did the same thing. Ended a 4 year LTR. It's been two months now, and honestly, I feel great about my decision. I have a small sense of uncertainty (probably oneitis shit but I have been working on this by hanging out and hitting on more woman). There are no unicorns and the world is just so much more exciting if you strive to see it for what it actually is.

[–][deleted] 292 points293 points  (6 children) | Copy

Hard next, no contact

[–]wheresMYsteakAt49 points50 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yup, chicks got more red flags then a skin head ralley.

[–]Retstortion30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking lol

[–]Dio_Brando_Joestar32 points33 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]Narcissist45622 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]KBeer017 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I keep coming back to this comment, holy shit rofl!

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[–][deleted] 76 points77 points  (0 children) | Copy

As long as you keep doing what you are doing, don't sweat it. It sounds like she is "fuck yeah" about you and when that's the case, they will act exactly how you've described it.

[–]Quantum_Jiraiya 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

AWALT Billions of people of the planet and billions of them are women. Red Pill theory is probably one of the most accurate and pervasive theories on how society works, but even if it is 99% accurate, that means a few million people might not adhere to the program.

That being said, the worst part of AWALT is you don’t know until you know. In other words, she might be amazing... ...until 5 years from now when she develops depression and gains 50 pounds... ...until she goes off birth control without telling you... ...until she meets Chad and cheats on you... ...until she has a kid with Chad, leaves you, and you pay child support...

Even though AWALT, you have to enjoy life. Enjoy her for who she is and what she has to offer you. Many guys will run into trouble in a perfectly good relationship situation because they are scared something will go wrong. Don’t be paranoid, DO be realistic.

[–]NofapFrance1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

this, be realistic, enjoy your time/turn with her, and live life bro.

[–]Incaahhh67 points68 points  (3 children) | Copy

RP is semi-based on the concept of AWALT. Obviously there will be some outliers. Seems like you got one, grats.

[–]room_3039 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

She's probably taken 100 dicks and wants to appear pure and settle.

[–]lololmissme3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. I have seen girls like this because they're too ashamed of their past and they're trying to settle with someone, who they'll obviously show their best to.

OP you should think if she's trying to "trap" you into a relationship in order to settle with her?

The only question I have is her past? Whats her n-count? a lot of girls become like that after having their slutty years

[–]Incaahhh1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah no

[–]apollosapien31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

You've found a girl that respects you. Keep being you.

[–]TRP VanguardWhisper31 points32 points  (4 children) | Copy


[–]Tiberiusaurus10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy


Find the right kind of truly naturally submissive woman and this what you get. It’s amazing.

If it falls apart it’ll probably be because you fucked it up by not maintaining frame. Women like that become lost and confused if you break frame for even a second. But as long as you maintain frame, you have the perfect mate.

If you’re confident in yourself marry her.

[–]g4casting[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yes I realize that. She wrote me letters as a side gift for my birthday, with different themes. In one of these she basically says she admires me for my intelligence, my confidence, my willpower. She sees me as some kind of failproof dude who gets everything right and who's capable of anything. Whatever comes up she always tells me that I'll be fine, if anyone can do it it's me.

It's set me to a high standard and I love it. It gives me that extra motivation when I feel like slipping, because I don't wanna fail that image she has of me. I know that as soon as I get too comfortable, I will tarnish that picture forever.

[–]LateralThinker138 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like you found an RPW. Keep being a good Captain, and she sounds like a keeper. There are indeed outliers (I married one).

[–]ramfex217 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just remember that she is in love with her ideal version of you. Eventually she will AWALT and see that you are just a man (although probably a good one) . And as we all know, women don’t want just a man, they want the perfect man, which none of us are. Keep doing what you are doing but just realise that is impossible to stay that way long term. If it does she is an alien

[–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

That my friend, is called a keeper

[–]hawkeaglejesus10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

I consider following RP akin to wearing your seatbelt. I've been driving for a long time and have never been in an accident. Does that mean it'll never happen? Just because everything has been going well so far doesn't mean it can't change at a moment's notice. And it may be 100% due to factors that you have no control over.

So the question is, do you stop wearing your seatbelt because everything is fine? Or do you ingrain that behavior so deeply that you barely ever even have to think about it?

Maybe it'll take 5 years or 10 years or never, but either way, I'd rather make my own well being a priority.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great analogy.

A thing to remember is that when we say AWALT we're talking about a overwhelming majority, not literally every single woman.

There obviously will be exceptions. But like you said, if you've ingrained yourself to always wear your seatbelt (TRP), the fallout of a possible crash will be less severe.

[–]module_process7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy

Is she at the same SMV as you, or lower? Regardless, it sounds like you're doing it right. Keep your frame and keep working to improve your SMV. She might not bite on the dread, but she notices, or at least (at this point) doesn't think she can branch off into something better...if so, she'd probably already be shit-testing.

[–]g4casting[S] 11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

She's far more attractive than I am. I'm really, really fit, but I have an average to below average face. She's a hb7.5 small blonde with a big ass and a great style. However I'm much more intelligent, experienced, and "cooler" than her. She has discovered a lot of things with me, and it was always a dynamic where I was leading her and getting her out of her comfort zone. She sees me as higher value for sure.

[–]LateralThinker134 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she's wise, she'll realize your SMV is going up while hers is slowly decreasing, and cherishing you now while she's still on parity.

[–]Hottosmart0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Who earns more?

[–]Andgelyo10 points11 points  (14 children) | Copy

Damn, once in a while, I can dream of something like this. If this is truly real, hold on it to it. You sound like you got yourself a really good girl. Obviously still keep an eye out. So many of us have been chewed up to the point of ingraining AWALT in our hearts. Hope this works out for you man.

[–]wataDs4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Rp tends to speak in definites, "awalt" is prime example. Its important to remember while reading that everything is undertone "statistical most". Whatever youre doing, keep at

[–]supersuperniceguy2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bro I think she's secretly a dude

[–]btrpb2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

She is a man 😉

[–]Hottosmart0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can't be a man. He cheated on her multiple times.

[–]recursoinominado4 points5 points  (18 children) | Copy

Looks like a great relationship to me. If you don't learn to be happy, you are going to sabotage everything. Most people need drama as they are identified with some role (usually as the victim). Don't. Fuck. This. Up.

[–]deville055 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is pulling the greatest heist of all time. Be in love, be kind to each other and have a great time. But never let your guard down.

[–]empatheticapathetic6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's an escort bro

[–]saltyafrican1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

My current girlfriend has the exact same personality. I even went through her search history (web, FB, IG) a few times randomly and absolutely nothing suspicious- not even a curious look at another guy's profile.

Don't change who you are and just keep up what you're doing. After more time as you get to know her, you may feel obligated to let your guard down a little but this will change who you are as a person so refrain from this. This happened to me and now I am using TRP to dig myself out of this mess.

[–]Goal10der1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

share your experience about how it became a mess and the state its in now?

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[–]g4casting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A year. No, she really is that way. I mean, she's been that way since she's fallen in love. She was more distant and cold the first ~2 months.

[–]h4nkz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just enjoy it while it lasts and keep doing what you are doing. Also every LTR will eventually change after about 1 year when the honeymoon phase ends

[–]Ubergeeek1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like my wife most of the time.

It's great but don't get complacent.

[–]jeantomic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Do not . Get . Married. Or you will Lose this Balance

[–]UncleChido1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

“She’s not yours, it’s just your turn”

Enjoy it while it lasts. And stop looking for drama.

[–]Jsieijejeieokkd4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Marry her, have kids, that’s the way these things go.

After the second, watch your back. Keep TRP in mind, eventually you’ll need it.

Results may vary, enjoy the ride.

[–]chasebandz012 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

have a threesome with her and one of her friends. nut inside her friend. she what she does then :)

[–]g4casting[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Could have happened earlier in the relationship. We talked about it, the friend was attracted to me, we previously had sex while she was in the same room etc. Then we went on a small trip and she was invited. We got cold feet. I didn't want any feelings hurt, and I saw she was not so sure anymore. Better that way I think

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

What’s your question?

[–]whereTheBoysKeepItG9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

His question is should he just keep doing what he’s doing or does he need to actively do something else to make sure his relationship stays solid. He asks this because most questions here are about how to fix problems with women. His problem is that he oddly doesn’t have any problems.

[–]Dio_Brando_Joestar1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

yeah i'm on the same boat. it's weird.

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ditto...I just keep frame, keep RP in my mind, toss in faint dread every ten days or so and the magic keeps growing. I am savoring every single moment. Meanwhile, I keep in mind the knowledge that Chad is waiting and AWALT is buying him a beer.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

We are all gonna steal her from you now, just sayin

[–]Forcetobereckonedwit0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Maintain. Enjoy. Prepare.

[–]PreOrgasmGroanLness0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She could be a submissive woman on INTJ/INFJ personality speectrum, which are the more rational women out there. They just don't give drama, can be often more rational than your male friends, often are quite aware of their own AWALT early in their life. Contrary to popular TRP belief, their rational & somewhat masculine mind that takes interest in sciences doesn't necessarily make them any less attractive, be it personality wise or looks wise, not at all. They will still like girly things like puppies, they'll still look like a woman and they'll still like love sex.

There is no catch as long as you keep to TRP.

[–]yenvalmar0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

get her pregnant, you are ready for the next level. it will go wrong eventually.

[–]freedominlight20 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Still honeymooning.

[–]forever_alpha0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you don’t stop being insecure (I mean this is insecurity par excellence) you will create a bad time for both of you soon.

[–]quicklogaccount0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I feel your pain man. In probably the most ironic and inadequate usage of the line, ever.

Dramatic and moody behaviors are characteristic of one major personality trait called neuroticism, and women score a lot higher than men in that one, although we all score on it unless we're psychos. In a couple months I came to believe that my girlfriend had men scores on that one, or maybe scored less than myself. And it freaked me out, naturally.

The first impressions I got from her were unsurprising for RPilled folks, although a good bit of them came from confirmation biases. She made some shit tests, required a strong frame, and had crazy levels of abundance. Point blank I assumed her low neuroticism was rooted on confidence provided by abundance, so I assumed I was dealing with a ticking bomb and decided to thread carefully, shield myself as I could.

After a while I realized that shielded behavior was putting a strain on me. It took me some time but I switched to "fuck it, I'm not stupid anymore and I can take whatever punch she throws". This mindset eased the relationship for me and I started to freak out less. At this point, funny enough, I could notice some shit about her. She's not lower in neuroticism than I am, nor lower then men in general. Instead, she tries to portray herself in the fashion she finds attractive in men, she remains shut about her weaknesses instead of using them to gather sympathy, she plays dread and tries to raise it when she believes I'm "out of the line". But her frame is weak, her insecurity shows and she reacts, MAINLY when her "dread" fails.
Basically, she's an intelligent woman trying to play the game she believes is the winning game, assuming that'll earn her the bigger prizes. And since she still believes men's game is the winning game, it becomes noticeable that there are remains of naivety on her. Dumb women won't ever have the idea, and experienced women realize they're wrong.

Something I realized I need to do after RP is being rational, almost scientific, if I plan to have a relationship. AWALT, if I have any suspicion and look for confirmations, I WILL find circumstantial evidence for it. So I'm trying to ease myself by developing a habit of also looking into evidence that falsifies my hypothesis.

*I made a habit of being skeptical about my impressions. AWALT and she can't be different, so whatever woman crap I become suspicious about, I'll confirm it if I try. So instead I'm looking into making a habit of falsifying my sus

[–]JensenMse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Kudos to you brother. Same shit happened to me with my previous LTR, basically she was perfection...or so I thought. That's until I fell into a period of depression and the dynamic shifted a total 180.

Don't let my words bring you down. I failed her only coz I allowed her to see me in my weakened state. Don't let the same thing happen to you. She sees you as her God, keep it that way all the time.

[–]DillonDockery0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How old are you and how old is she? How did you meet?

[–]ColmM360 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

AWALT of course but some women are better than others AWALT, but SWABTO

[–]TheLoneProspector0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I had one like this. I blew it up. Could get her back but I doubt it. It is so weird meeting a normal, stable girl.

[–]redd_reality0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're a fucking idiot op.

What you have here is a situation where you're needy, insecure and sabotaging your perfectly good and healthy relationship.

Believe me, if you want your relationship to crumble, keep fucking around and you will certainly get what you wish for, and all by your own hand.

Or, be a fucking man and recognize what you have in your life and use that calmness to add the stress of other challenges to it. Start a business, get a degree, take up challenging or dangerous hobbies etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good for you, sounds like you have a good thing going and glad you're happy.

Maybe it will never happen, and maybe it will, but if things fall apart, just remember AWALT and use the knowledge you've gained here to forge ahead, uncompromisingly.


[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

She's in chameleon mode. Come back to this in 6 months and tell me its the same.

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[–]g4casting[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't hide my concerns to her. It's too shitty to be in a relationship and not be able to talk about emotions with your partner. However I make sure to NEVER go on and on about it. Like I say what I'm feeling sometimes, we talk about it a bit, then case closed. People, not only women HATE whiners. If someone is always complaining and whining, you start getting rly annoyed with them and I'm well aware of it. The only "real" problem I have is long streaks of poor sleep. And she always asks me if I slept well. At this point I just told her to stop asking me this.

[–]totallyAlphaguy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your SMV must be significantly higher than her (even just in her mind) + traditional upbringing.

[–]themormonchurch0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

> RP has taught me that shit will hit the fan eventually

someone may have taught you that, but it wasn't RP

RP is designed to make LTRs work

[–]whereTheBoysKeepItG0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy

Man you better wife this girl for real. You got it made. Trp is all facts, but you see right in front of you is an even bigger fact. You’re living like with a good girl. Don’t fuck it up.

[–]Hottosmart0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

He cheated on her multiple times already.

[–]whereTheBoysKeepItG-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

What do you mean by cheated

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[–]11-Eleven-115 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy

A good chunk of rp guys do. Its only natural for a man to want to start a family.

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[–]LeDolceVita0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Get a life dude

[–]11-Eleven-11-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

I never said it was good idea only that many rp men want to marry ;).

Me personally, the only reason I would marry a woman is to have children. Other than that though the cons are... well you know.

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[–]LateralThinker131 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

There're just so many reasons not to try to keep it going forever. One reason I haven't mentioned in this thread is that at a certain age, you lose your libido to the point that having a woman around becomes much less practical. You wanna fuck them, and that's what they're best used for. Anything else would be better accomplished with male buddies.

Spoken like somebody who doesn't value housekeeping, extended families, having a companion in your retirement, and growing old with someone.

There's more to RP than just getting laid. You do yourself a disservice.

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[–]LateralThinker130 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Marriage isn't for everyone, and not every guy wants an LTR, I get that. Not even arguing or criticizing it.

But when I wrap my arms around my wife, I feel at peace in ways no bro, hunting buddy, or best male friend can give me. Maybe that'll last; I hope so. But if it doesn't, it doesn't. I'm going to plan for success but prepare for failure, as the saying goes.

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[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Who hurt you?

[–]beermagnate0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No way a girl who acts like that is hot. Really ask yourself how high is her value.

[–]Tiberiusaurus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He said she’s a 7..5. You can find girls who are under an 8 like this. 8 and up though you are right.

[–]DiscordantMonk0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm in the same position man! Just keep doing what you're doing and enjoy it!!!

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[–]whereTheBoysKeepItG1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why does he need to do anything differently when what he’s doing right now is clearly working?

[–]BorisJohnson4PM-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP if it’s going great, congrats!! You’ve got to remember, if she starts fucking things up and things start to slide, get out of there fast. These are red flags BECAUSE we know AWALT, not because these things are inherently bad. She could be the only unicorn on the planet but it seems unlikely, but if you’re enjoying yourself and she doesn’t fuck with your gains, then crack on. Just keep vigilant.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

You’re being Dennised

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