I don't even know if the kid is mine, but she's trying hard to stick it on me. I don't want to spend the next 18 years supporting her drinking and weed habits and have a kid she actively poisons against me. I'd just rather not be involved whatsoever, but I'm just finding out now that at ANY time she can put my name on the birth certificate and I'll be held legally and financially responsible. Even if she doesn't at first, as long as the child is a minor, I can be put on the hook for it and be made to start paying. And even if I can get a paternity test later (that I'll be made to pay for) and I prove the kid isn't mine (because she bragged about having sex with 2 guys after I stopped seeing her), the courts will force me to keep financially supporting her "in the best interests of the child". On another note, if it's a boy she WILL get him cut and even if I wanted to be involved in his life, I'd have no say in that matter. As a man, I have zero rights to control my own funds or anatomy when women like this are involved.
After this, even if it's not mine or she's not pregnant, I think I'll be done with women permanently.
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I'm honestly feeling like taking the easy way out rather than be made to suffer for 18 years. This is basically a life sentence.
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Same thing with France, which might be more pleasant.
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How can I do that without the kid being born?
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All the relationships in my friend circle that ended in divorce was loving and peaceful until they weren't. The moment the wives saw the relationship ended they turned to "I will take everything I can", and this has been without exception.
Separate living situations, economies are the way to go. And if you don't mind paying for spending time with your children if your relationship fails, then by all means do that too.
Until something in the courts changes dramatically I am not going down that route.
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I live in Denmark. So financially no one is that much better off than another. Here we are talking mutually owned assets and primarily.. the kids. Also, you have to pay as the spouse who has the kids the least, each month, for each child. Clothing, toys and the like. As the primary caregiver you also god a lot of government help if you are not married and living by yourself.
As a friend was told by his lawyer "She will try to get the kids at least 10 days every 14 days. She thinks you are as good as parent as you do. But without the extra days, she loses out on money. And money.. are more important to her than you spending time with your kids"
In Denmark there is no cost associated with divorce unless you end in court.
And I am not saying there are no situations where the female is the breadwinner. And when I talk about the courts I mean "kids". As long as the father is a second class citizen there, having kids in a world with 50% divorce rate is a shitty proposition.
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Sure they can, and they have. Not saying that at all. Just saying there is a lot more risk involved in relationships for a guy than for woman.
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If I provide even a single penny to support that child, even if it's just a box of diapers, I'll be assumed the parent, regardless of a DNA test. In the US and Canada they will still make you pay "in the best interest of the child".
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Courts can still force a man to start paying by default before that's done.
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I was never even dating her. I saw her for less than 2 weeks.
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Condoms are good, they protect against unwanted pregnancy and STDs.
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Used one and was super careful. Didn't even finish inside with the condom on. She got her period too. But now she's claiming this shit...
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How can I do that with an unborn kid?
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She refuses to as much as take a pregnancy test.
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Why is it your business if some men decide not to play the game they don’t think is winnable? Why is there anything wrong with that? MGTOW is not anti women, it’s about men taking care of themselves and being independent. There can be nothing wrong with that. Women who choose to be celibate are accepted, why can’t men be?
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Did. Didn't even finish inside with said condom. Was super careful.
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