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[–]thinktwiceorelseFDS Newbie 139 points140 points141 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In that case it's okay, it's just some woman you know. /s
[–]Alarming-Midnight-73FDS Newbie 83 points84 points85 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a good point. Honestly, for true "50/50", the biological father should pay for 100% of the biological mother's health care expenses.
[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, he's not worried that if the woman ears less she also has to pay 50%. It's all "me me me, what about men?" lmao
[–]ShieldMaidenLagerthaFDS Disciple 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
🤡but what about men?!?!
[–]MagnfiqueMaleficentFDS Disciple 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We must think about what’s fair to them!
You know, because historically, women always get their way.
[–]dkwantsdkFDS Newbie 241 points242 points243 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I just ugly laughed at this. He's so close to getting it.
[–]purasangriaFDS Disciple 49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's so hard for them to understand this, after millenia of women being left to hold the bag while he scampers off.
[–]hakunnamatatamfsFDS Newbie 215 points216 points217 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Don't want a kid? Use a condom, dude.
Dont like condoms? Push for research so more contraceptives are available for men and stop whining
[–]thegenuinedarkflyFDS Newbie 112 points113 points114 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I’m not sure we want the men on hormonal birth control. Didn’t they get occasional headaches or something?
[–]hakunnamatatamfsFDS Newbie 80 points81 points82 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I don't care if they grow a third eye, all I want is the pressure off of women to be on bc despite messing w our health so much
[–][deleted] 56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The only issue is I would never trust a guy to 1: actually use birth control pills rather than saying that he does in order to not have to wear a condom and 2: be organized enough to take his pills correctly. 🤷🏻♀️
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean this why'd you still use the condoms, maybe even do a little vetting while you're at it. Just bc they used pills does not men aren't loaded with STD'S, I'd only consider pills a safety net for a safety net (Condoms).
[–]BBQCoolRanchQueenFDS Apprentice 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This right here. While we have men who "stealth" off condoms, IVF doctors using their own sperm, and male gynecologists impregnating patients via pap tests, how can we trust the average scrote to tell the truth and take responsibility? Men actually believe it's a fundamental human right to pass on their crusty DNA.
[–]smaller_angFDS Newbie 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh it def needs to be implanted in them
[–]Dexaroo5716FDS Newbie 345 points346 points347 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I guess then keep your dick in your pants Tom. A conclusion all that special man logic should’ve brought you to ages ago.
[–]anywaysheresrationalFDS Newbie 72 points73 points74 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
iTs soOoooOO uNfAiRrrrr 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
[–]Dexaroo5716FDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
🤣
[–]anywaysheresrationalFDS Newbie 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Literally the 6-year-olds throwing their tantrum over the check out candy bars.
How do you not feel like a total pedo dating LVM ?
[–]needsmoresilkFDS Newbie 45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
💯 don’t have sex. Get a vasectomy. Take a contraceptive pill which fucks with your hormones. Oh wait sorry, those aren’t available bc you couldn’t deal with mild side effects
[–]Platipus6279 points 5 years ago* [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link
Broke bum men should keep their legs closed then.
[–]ellaellaellaayye176 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Right! No one wants your dollar store sperm!
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[–]MagnfiqueMaleficentFDS Disciple 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Clean up on aisle six.
[–]carmen_sandiegos_hat201 points 5 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
So it's fair for the woman to pay 100%?
Make it make sense.
[–]Rowbloks 84 points85 points86 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They only have empathy for men. If the problem is pushed 100% onto women, to them, it means that the problem is gone.
[–]MagnfiqueMaleficentFDS Disciple 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Fair” is defined by LVMs and NVMs as them getting their way all of the time. It always has been. Any time you’re vetting a date and he’s whining about something being unfair to men, that’s rosy-red flag. 🚩 There’s nothing in life that is happening that favors women while being unfair to men. Nothing.
[–]Geocities_SEO_ExpertFDS STRATEGY COACH 80 points81 points82 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If a man earns far less than a woman, Utah is clearly no longer the place to pump and dump her after she gets pregnant.
[–]Ok_Meringue9724FDS Newbie 203 points204 points205 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you're broke enough to not be able to afford a condom, maybe you shouldn't be having sex.
[–]breadandbunnyFDS Newbie 53 points54 points55 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's completely reasonable for a father to pay half of that. Ffs, that's bare minimum, the expectation for a parent.
[–]eveloeFDS Apprentice 42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Condoms are also one size fits all.
Use one, homie
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Really? I thought they had fitting rooms for condoms, lol.
[–]smaller_angFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tbh yeah there are actually diff sizes
[–]PurpyPopsFDS Newbie 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The irony is DEAFENING
[–]Phoenix__Rising2018Ruthless Strategist 35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A man should pay ALL OF THE COSTS. She's doing ALL of the work and taking all of the risks. He should have to pay all of the costs to raise the kid too. No, weekend "dad" twice a months isn't equivalent to her labor as a parent making a whole, decent, successful human being.
[–]LR_todayFDS Newbie 72 points73 points74 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a way to help men force women to continue with a pregnancy anyway.
[–]spinsterchachkiesFDS Disciple 35 points36 points37 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Didn’t you want equality sir?
[–]PippiLemongrass 28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Men who are too poor to pay half the costs of having a baby SHOULD NEVER have sex.
[–]HlGHFIVEFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We're looking at you, Jack from The Titanic. Lmao.
[–]TomoshaamooshFDS Newbie 26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine having such a warped world view that you look at this and think it’s unfair on the menz
[–]HlGHFIVEFDS Newbie 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like how he formulates a scenario to fit his broke ass scrote-agenda.
[–]FabledAngryVillagerFDS Apprentice 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol I think I see some of you calling him out. Please know I love what you're doing 😩👍
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If someone did any other thing to another person that, through their negligence or intent, caused that person to require thousands of dollars in medical care, they would be responsible for 100% of the costs, no?
[–]WeirdRockbabyFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes!
[–]IllusionOfColoursFDS Newbie 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t have sex if you don’t want to pay then🥴Honestly, he’s making it sound like he doesn’t have a choice but to get a woman pregnant and he can’t wrap it up or not have sex. I can’t stand these men, my god someone shatter their egos please😂
[–]barbedwiredaisycrownFDS Newbie 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Men desiring to financially disconnect from the baby are putting undue pressure on the woman to abort.
I loved this male reproductive rights conversation on The Atheist Experience but all the butthurt men in the comments agreed with the caller. In defense the two men hosting the show agree it's weird for 3 men to be talking about this, but since the caller was essentially insisting on having the discussion put him in his place.
If you don't want kids, as a man, you shouldn't be fucking. If you're too broke if an accident happens and she decides to keep the kid, too bad. If you stick your dick in a woman it's consent to possible parenthood as a man.
Sex is a need crowd don't @ me. Sex with ANOTHER PERSON is not a need.
[–]smaller_angFDS Newbie 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your hand can't get pregante!
[–]throwaway32132134 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
LOL love how when women make less men still expect 50/50. There's hundreds of posts on reddit showing examples of this. But when men make less it's unfair.
[–]Turbulent-Leave9596FDS Newbie 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was talking about this at work with a man/doctor who is SUPER anti-abortion. And he literally said, but what if he wanted her to have an abortion or didn’t want the kid? So I mentioned his stance on abortion and why should she be the only one financially responsible. It takes two. The hypothetical scrote could have had a vasectomy and it should never be just on the woman to manage birth control. He said it’s easier for women, I said so is wearing a condom for a man. He doubled down on why should he have to pay. They will try any means necessary to justify not taking responsibility.
[–]TeacupHumanFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yuck find a new doctor!
[–]shyrussian 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I love this law because it makes men responsible for their actions that they normally get to run away from. Second, I love this law because it just further proves that abortion should be legal with no stipulations because when men are faced with dealing with pregnancy it’s harsh to impose a law that affects everyone, but yet somehow they do the mental gymnastics to think it’s ok to ban all women from having an abortion.
[–]adalovelace1793---FDS Newbie 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Im really pondering about Wars and how they are detrimental to woman finding a HVM. All the lousy ones live and the fit ones die. Another reason to root for peace, cause we can discard useless LVM and see if a man is a HVM.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Here’s an idea Tom. Get a vasectomy if you are so worried about your low paying NV ass getting someone pregnant. Problem solved in so many ways. Like, blocking a low achieving dumb logic poo faces from passing on it’s dumb poo face genetics
[–]WeirdRockbabyFDS Newbie 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They can't never pay half of the biological cost but they still going to complain for paying at least half of the money.
[–]purasangriaFDS Disciple 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, no! Poor, broke men now have a risk when they wet the pipi!
If you can't afford the consequences, don't f*ck, men. Keep it zipped.
[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yet LVM will want you to pay 50/50 (+ all the house work and child rearing) even if you earn less than them.
Just don't go around having sex, Tom. Buh hoo.
[–][deleted] 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey Tom. Don't have SEX. Close Your Legs. Simple.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Utah ladies, enjoy bathing in scrote tears as a result of this article hehe
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So, we should keep it at women have to pay everything by default, unless the man decides out of decency to help out? Noticed how he doesn't even suggest working something out for if the man earns less, would probably rather just scrap the whole thing.
[–]smaller_angFDS Newbie 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, 100%, sounds much more fair and equitable!
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It costs what it costs to have a baby scrote! It's complete fucked how the courts usually set what the deadbeat dads owe to their kid based on his income. The mom doesn't get that courtesy, she has to pay for the child no matter what, full stop! I've seen courts order $200 a month. Like WTF? That's NOTHING. Clothing, food, diapers, doctor visits, school supplies. Scrotes get off easy and most of the time they default on paying anyways becasue they don't give a shit about the babies they're making with their low value sperm.
It costs what it costs, so stop creating babies you cant be responsible for, scrotes!
[–]helppleasekkFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are so fucking selfish it's crazy
[–]MofoMadameFDS Newbie 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tom clearly needs to be excused from reproducing. Can we get him neutered...
[–]kycakeFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
i feel like for it to be truly 50/50 the male should pay 100% of the medical cost since the woman is doing a ton of physical and emotional labor plus all the lifelong consequences pregnancy has.
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