From the dating subreddit, "Men shouldn't be expected to carry the entire weight of the dating experience, and women shouldn't be afraid to scare men away by "chasing" them and providing support."

AnniaT · 2021-04-12T08:49:05+00:00

Lmao this never works. Men dont like being chased even if they say they do. When will people understand this?

Mcccy · 2021-04-12T09:12:33+00:00

If they don't even want to do that, WHAT exactly do they want to do???? Just sit around and the perfect girl just falls from the sky onto their lap???

We obviously know that if we flirt with a guy and we're considered attractive he'll like it, but why on earth would I do that?? He obviously has no interest on me, he just settled cause he liked my looks or the attention. It's one sided and I gain almost nothing in return.

aquietsword · 2021-04-12T10:43:39+00:00

Men hardly carry shit. Who the fuck is this ass clown? What kind of sad person from a marginalized group spends their time wondering about how to make life easier for the privileged class in society?? Straight clown awards out here.

burritogirl101 · 2021-04-12T08:42:07+00:00

It's not a prehistoric notion at all lol. Seriously, men cannot even manage the bare minimum. And that's not me speaking in hyperbole - based on my experience and the thousands of women part of this group, its absolutely true.

Most men don't want to put in time and effort and that's why we've ended up in the situation we're in today, with zero effort coffee dates and poor communication skills. So yes, they should be expected to pay for a damn date or initiate conversation. Aka the bare minimum 🙄

Geocities_SEO_Expert · 2021-04-12T10:58:35+00:00

That last sentence can't happen unless men jump through some hoops. The hoops are what the effort is.

Women seriously do not understand that men will "date" you for years, and resent and hate you the entire time. That's why they "accidentally" say mean things, or stand you up, or show up 3 hours late to a date.

throwaway32132134 · 2021-04-12T11:08:40+00:00

Men aren't raised to respect women and they are opportunistic. They have no problem stringing women along for YEARS. On top of that woman have more to lose when it comes to dating. So yes, till the day I DIE I will say yes a man should pursue me. For men that have and will continue to invalidate that by saying "well i guess we couldn't date because I don't purse" I say: "That's okay. We can have difference preferences." 🙃

Sidenote: Is it just me or do other woman find it more upsetting when it comes from a woman? Ugh, it makes me sad. We share somewhat similar live experiences. Woman are the only ones who will truly understand what it's like to face sexism every single day. Instead of supporting one another, they tear other woman down.

circescircus · 2021-04-12T13:27:20+00:00

The sperm chases the egg. Men are more motivated by sex than women. Most men get off (quickly and easily) from casual sex. Men benefit from relationships more than women do. Married men statistically have a longer life expectancy than single men. Men are more depressed when they are single. Women are happier and live longer lives when they are single. Men cannot get pregnant. They have a minuscule chance of being raped or sexually assaulted by a woman. They are less likely to contract STIs due to their biology, and when they do have STIs, it doesn't affect them to the degree that it affects women.

Men do not face the same or even remotely similar risks that women face when dating. They do not risk homicide, rape, sexual assault, STIs, pregnancy and orgasmless sex.

But yeah, let's ignore all of that, and have women make the first move, because eQuAlITy. It's not enough to drive down women's expectations to subterranean levels-- they want MORE. Nor are they satisfied by the 1st-3rd date rule, netflix & chill, 50/50 dates, the normalization of situationships. It's not enough to shame women for having standards, it's not enough to demonize women for screening-- women also have to ask them out too! It's unFaiR!!!

The fucked up part is that these guys would be OFFENDED if a conventionally unattractive or obese woman asked them out. Can you imagine how they'd react if an old woman (old enough to be their mother, if not their grandmother) was aggressively pursuing them, wouldn't take no for an answer, and was acting like a creepy old man? They'd be so angry and offended. They'd happily take advantage of any fuckable looking woman, because in their minds, she is soliciting sex and he's giving her exactly what she wants and nothing more. They might date a really attractive woman, but would treat her like total trash, because why would they invest in a thirsty woman.

All the while, they'd still be sliding into desirable women's DMs, sniffing after women they can't have, orbiting exes etc. They don't even know what they want. They just want to be even more lazy than they already are. It's not enough that they can access hardcore porn on a smartphone in seconds, they want one of those "hot sluts 2 miles away" ads to become reality. In fact, they feel entitled to porn ads becoming their reality.

It's sociopathic that he calls this the "dating experience". (I'm saying "he" because 99% of people who think this ARE men, and this might just be a man pretending to be a woman, but even if this is a woman, I could care less what some whacked out female misogynist thinks) You just want to get laid, and you don't want to work or spend any money to do it. They really think women are this dumb, desperate and gullible. Guys used to learn how to play guitar, not because they loved music, but to get laid. Men these days are so fucking lazy and delusional. Forget learning to play guitar to impress women, they don't want to do the most basic things.

Oh, and the guys who will be all "nOt all MeN! i WanT a reLaTionShiP" *Slow clap* You don't just want sex, you also want a bangmaid/low maintenance cool chick. Because that IS what you want, if you're sooo fucking lazy and stupid that you can't understand basic biology, human behavior, sexual behavior, basic economics of supply/demand.

I can't believe men think they are this amazing, that we should be the ones pursuing THEM. Women take self-defense lessons and carry weapons not because men are so fucking incredible, but because so many men are so terrible. We go out of our way to AVOID men, we avoid taking walks at night, going to certain places alone, we live our lives always thinking about our self-preservation. And it's not ghosts, monsters, bogeyman or women that we are afraid of-- it is men.

ItsFreezen · 2021-04-12T11:36:57+00:00

" I am referring to being expected to pay for the dates, being expected to initiate interactions (both asking a girl out and continued texting/calling/maintenance of communication/etc), "

She think's that's HARD. Then Scrote shouldn't be dating in the first place. Guaranteed his house/Apt is a disaster and he doesn't have good hygiene if he can't manage a date.

islandmaiden · 2021-04-12T09:44:25+00:00

My rule of thumb is if I have to chase a man or a man has to chase me, then we're not just compatible. No one should be chasing anyone, I prefer to meet in the middle. If I have to chase a man, then that's embarrassing as a woman 'cause he must not like me and opens me up to being used and chasing him for the entirety of the relationship. Women offer a lot more in a relationship, especially now: love, sex, kids, financial contribution, housekeeping, so it doesn't really make sense if you know your worth as a woman. If a man has to chase me, then I must not like him and so I would rather turn him down than lead him on. That doesn't mean that I will tolerate no effort though, I would break it quick in that case too. Men who don't put any effort into the relationship are no fun; I like variety and romance and my love languages are ALL the love languages. And no sex before a relationship is established, love comes for me before sex; I live in a conservative country though and men wait for years or marriage before sex if the woman doesn't want to and so I expect that. Thank heavens I woke up from liberal feminism before I dipped my toe into hookups.

emziewemziee · 2021-04-12T12:09:31+00:00

men DO NOT want to be chased 🤦‍♀️ if he thinks that doing all the work is too much effort he’s probably unavailable. “if he wanted to he would”

Saitschik · 2021-04-12T08:41:11+00:00

I agree that nobody should be chasing, that's pathetic anyway. But men showing their worth and women decide and receive is just the way it is. It's BiOlOgY men usually tend to love so much and drag out when they stalk teenagers.

You can try to convince a man and put in effort and maybe you achieve something in the short term because you obtained a lazy sloop. But even he will leave you as soon as the woman he really wants shows up. And then watch him how he suddenly can put in all the effort he before told you is "unfair".

2021-04-12T12:11:49+00:00

What dating experience?

When the only tangible offer is their sex-obsessed self?

😒

Unfit_Needleworker · 2021-04-12T13:55:54+00:00

We’re not afraid to scare men away by chasing them, we just don’t want the ones that won’t chase because we know from experience that if they aren’t chasing you, they don’t like you all that much but they will settle for you. MEN go for what they want, it’s just a fact.

The_Pyramidion · 2021-04-12T11:04:02+00:00

Hope she gets picked lmao

seraphinelysion · 2021-04-12T17:07:40+00:00

If women are expected to carry the relationship once they enter into one, then men can at least initiate. All this talk of 50/50 and they say they can't even approach and plan dates? Sounds more like 0/100 where women are on the losing end. No thanks!

amhran_oiche · 2021-04-12T17:16:39+00:00

I spent 5 years in a dead end relationship that started because I pursued a man. That theme carried on into the rest of our relationship. Never again. If a man is so interested in being a part of my life and the peace I've established, he had better be ready to show it.

Spittens · 2021-04-12T15:22:54+00:00

And once again, it's women's responsibility to carry these nvm/lvm. /s

They can't be bothered to make an effort, so you shouldn't be bothered to reciprocate in any way. Not your time, not your energy, and certainly not your money.

My mother told me when I was a teenager that the life I wanted was on the other side of all that stuff I didn't want to do (college). She was absolutely right. Life is effort. You can either do it or you can rot. Let these men rot and put that energy to better use.

Only_Lime2520 · 2021-04-12T17:30:55+00:00

I'm merely projecting (and maybe half speaking to my former younger self who used to think like she does):

I bet she's in her early 20s. The trauma of patriarchy hasn't got to her yet... so much spare time, money and energy. I wish she would use those resources for a charity that benefits women, instead of "carrying the weight" for men--aka hurting herself and being a mouthpiece for pickme culture that ultimately hurts all of us.

Br0ther-Finger · 2021-04-12T19:41:44+00:00

No ma’am. I’m not asking for 50/50 dates. I’m not asking to be fucked and chucked. I’m not asking for Netflix and Chill. I’m not asking for a relationship where I’m not valued and respected. And if you chase a man, that’s what you’re asking for.

A man can put on the full court press and STILL treat you like trash. If you have to chase him down, you’re throwing yourself in the dumpster.

Yogacat4 · 2021-04-12T13:01:32+00:00

She sounds relentlessly aggressive, lmao! Hope she gets picked of her dime store, libfem wisdom! 🤡

snowwhite224 · 2021-04-12T19:19:17+00:00

This lady needs to pick up a biology book or psychology book!!!!!

Yellowsunflowerlover · 2021-04-12T21:25:57+00:00

They will probably entertain it for a while, but lose interest after. "Men don't love women like you" says we are Queens, men like to chase not the other way around. Men weren't made to be chased.

MagnfiqueMaleficent · 2021-04-13T04:40:15+00:00

These are the same people who are waiting with baited breath for the government to assign all women a Scrote and force women to mate with them. 😂😂😂 Effort is really overwhelming to them.

2021-04-12T12:26:26+00:00

All of these make me never want to date.. how am i supposed to be attracted to a man if he does not ”provide” for me?

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