Amazon UK remove 'slap her' mugs, yet continue to sell 'Boys are Stupid, Throw Rocks at Them' products.

SarahC · 2015-03-23T14:51:40+00:00

Par for the course. Violence against men is funny, always - violence against women? NEVER.

azazelcrowley · 2015-03-23T14:50:37+00:00

Well naturally. Once again, womens rights campaigners actively create a sexist situation where previously none existed by demanding special protection for women.

You might argue that pro-violence products should be pulled. You might be opposed. They argue for them to be pulled when they target women. That's clearly wrong.

shwenny · 2015-03-23T16:40:41+00:00

But remember guys feminism is for men too

kinyutaka · 2015-03-23T16:15:39+00:00

It should be noted that the author of "Boys Are Stupid, Throw Rocks At Them" (a man) also wrote "Girls Are Weird, But Smell Pretty"

xynomaster · 2015-03-23T15:49:10+00:00

Yup, because promoting gendered violence against men and boys is funny and empowering to women, somehow.

Is there anywhere you can make a complaint to Amazon? I think it might be worthwhile to try and get a lot of people to complain and shed some light on this.

Teraperf · 2015-03-23T16:38:07+00:00

Has anyone here read the book "Boys are Stupid, Throw Rocks at Them"? I'm curious about the content of the book because the same author wrote one about girls as well.

JohnKimble111 · 2015-03-23T21:27:33+00:00

At HEqual we ran a pretty successful campaign last year against the Boys are Stupid products.

In the end we got more than half of retailers to withdraw the products and most of the biggest UK book distributors also cased stocking the merchandise. Perhaps it's time for phase two now?

davidrexs · 2015-03-23T16:07:58+00:00

Lady Of Lorien tweeted: "This is why we need feminism."

You have to admit they are quite funny sometimes.

MRSPArchiver · 2015-03-23T14:39:32+00:00

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TheresanotherJoswell · 2015-03-23T19:28:46+00:00

Petition them to stop selling the product that's offensive to you.

Or actually don't, because both mugs are jokes and should be taken as such.

dejour · 2015-03-23T17:13:01+00:00

We can all agree this is an unfair double standard. Both items are clearly offensive and advocate criminal violence (in a joking manner).

But do we want both items to be sold or neither item to be sold?

2015-03-23T19:30:04+00:00

Its just a book about stoning children, what's not to love?

Disgusting.

ToReykjavik · 2015-03-24T01:33:28+00:00

If the mug had "girls are stupid, throw rocks at them" everyone would be up in arms about stoning in the middle east or something

Madam-Temacia · 2015-03-23T18:34:19+00:00

Wait so

A cofee mug which is mostly inside your own home is bad

But a shirt saying boys are stupid and to throw rocks which is in public is a-ok

omnicidial · 2015-03-23T18:41:21+00:00

Censor all the things!

xyzornat · 2015-03-24T02:17:20+00:00

I thought I was in /r/britishproblems for a minute.

RatedE · 2015-03-23T22:42:09+00:00

This is seriously bullshit. Please everyone, email Amazon. I sent an email via http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/reports/contact-us

StinkyDiaper · 2015-03-24T04:18:04+00:00

One difference between the sexes is that men are mature enough to be able to actually take a joke. Women have proven, again and again, that they are completely incapable of doing this.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2015-03-24T03:51:50+00:00

Let's be clear here: Amazon is merely responding to demand. They are given to understand that they will lose more revenue offering to sell these than the revenue they stand to gain from selling them. They're responding rationally here.

If we want Amazon to no longer sell these products or at least be consistent, we have to make them believe it threatens their bottom line if they don't comply.

Wargame4life · 2015-03-24T11:25:14+00:00

does this have to pointed out every time, mocking the strong is not seen as offensive, all these stupid products are merely a testament that guys are more capable and stronger (not just physical)

the same way a little kid beating an adult is "funny" an adult beating a kid is not funny but disturbing.

all this tacky shite does is suggest men are more capable and stronger than women, but the more you idiots moan and whinge about it the more precious and damaged you appear.

one of the great things about being a man is we generally don't throw the toys out of the pram like a hissy child, but you guys are changing that.

MonkeyCB · 2015-03-24T03:30:37+00:00

Probably because the criticism isn't worth the "profit" while the other one is, even with or without criticism. I guess women just love to spend their money on throwing rocks at boys.

princeapalia · 2015-03-24T07:15:12+00:00

Thing is, I don't want the book to be removed, I want the mug to be back on Amazon...

a_posh_trophy · 2015-03-24T13:28:12+00:00

Anything 'Keep Calm And...' deserves to be removed from shelves full stop, it's not even remotely amusing.

zackmanze · 2015-04-01T08:36:21+00:00

Ok,

Nobody else is gonna say it?

We're a little off on this one.

OP, the way you've titled your post is pretty deceptive. The book is not titled "Slap Her," it's titled, "Don't Keep Calm Slap That Bitch, Hard!" This is really, really deceitful. I only caught your actual text by chance.
There's a stark contrast between the presentation of the products. And I get that things are looked at pretty black and white around here, but the gray area must be respected. If not this community just looks like "Meninist Tweets."

"Slap that Bitch, Hard" uses some harsh and crude language. Say it out loud. It's an aggressive sentence. Period. "Boys are Stupid, Throw Rocks at Them" is immediately playful, even silly, due to the choice of wordage. I get that "Both Statements Promote Violence Towards the Opposite Gender," but the presentation makes a hugely critical difference here. One product is presented in an EXPLICITLY playful version, whether you find it funny or not. The other is presented with harsh language with a harsh design.

I'll be downvoted to all hell for this, and that's fine, because you guys need to seriously be aware of these things. You're onto some really important hypocrisies that people should absolutely be made more aware of.

Posts like this only serve to kill your credibility.

vereonix · 2015-03-23T18:31:20+00:00

To sadly be devils advocate here, I understand this post, but that mug is a bit shit, and harsh for the sake of it.

"Don't Keep Calm Slap That Bitch, Hard!", is just over the top. Lets not get all retarded up in here and start crying over the smallest things like some/most feminists do. The "Boys are Stupid, Throw Rocks at Them" stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest, as its clearly light hearted (I don't know the content). But "Don't Keep Calm Slap That Bitch, Hard!" is just in bad taste regardless of who its aimed at.

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XXXmormon · 2015-03-23T16:44:28+00:00

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Spidertech500 · 2015-03-23T18:51:46+00:00

This is starting to toe on whinny bs

The_Directors_Cut · 2015-03-23T22:15:59+00:00

How dare you all forget rabble rabble patriarchy rabble rabble pay difference rabble rabble.

caprico11 · 2015-03-24T01:42:39+00:00

I beleive that men these days are ignored when it comes to seeking moral support. Compared to women, men are always expected to be stoic, jocks and brave, if they are not they are automatically defined as homosexual, I beleive that this is a major problem, but if any man tries to express this, they are called "Gay" or "Anti-feminist". I also believe that feminism is distracting from this problem. Feminism is unintentionaly creating the stereotype that men cannot be raped

8088XT8BIT · 2015-03-24T03:02:47+00:00

Wow .. Amazon Stores .. A Double Standard

Sanguifer · 2015-03-24T11:51:14+00:00

This obviously encourages the mugging of women and therefore is rightfully banned. Shame on us misogynists for making a fuss. Sheesh. Privilege, people.

NibblyPig · 2015-03-24T12:57:19+00:00

There are lots of controversial books like this, I own a copy of Men are Greater Than Women that someone bought me for a joke after a bad breakup, which is full of horrible stuff about women. I think it's quite a fun book to read as it's humorous, provided you don't take any of it seriously, and I imagine the book about boys being stupid is probably the same, so I don't really object to it either.

kurtu5 · 2015-03-24T01:05:47+00:00

God I hate to be that person, but they are not strictly equivalent.

Do women throw rocks at men? Not really, and so calling for a non-practiced form of violence against men is not seen as a problem by Amazon.

Do men slap women. Yes, so Amazon is fearfull of the backfire.

I can understand why they would see these as two different things. Now if they banned, 'Women are stupid, nuke them from orbit. Its the only way to be sure.', then we have something comparable. Still, its a gynocentric culture and there are double standards.

CarlosWeiner · 2015-03-23T18:19:12+00:00

This is apples and oranges. 'Slap her' directly promotes domestic violence. 'Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them' is promoting... what, exactly? The terrible scourge of little girls stoning young men to death?

Officially unsubscribing. Yes, I understand that hurting men and calling them stupid promotes a harmful gender stereotype. Yes, I believe if you actually want to be offended by things like that you're a fucking idiot just like the fucking idiots on Tumblr.

Worry not brave knights of Men's Rights, your right to sell sexist shit on Amazon has not been infringed.

Signed,

Guy who actually gives a shit about male-specific issues, a long list that does not include being offended by a fucking product

Yeahadamnthrowaway · 2015-03-23T22:00:21+00:00

mens rants

WabbaWay · 2015-03-24T01:17:11+00:00

You know the gender-equality debate has regressed into something truly petty and pointless when people want to ban mugs and tshirts with jokes on them because they can be percieved as sexist.

Meanwhile women are still paid less and men are still falling behind in the educational system, but no, let's talk about shit we buy on amazon.

EDIT: No, women still earn less compared to men in general. I know men and women are paid roughly the same amount for the same job, but if you look at a a job women tend to gravitate towards, you'll often find it pays less compared to roughly the same job that men tend to favor, despite the workload and educational requirement being the same. There's also the fact that women aren't very good at asking for a pay raise - "Thats their own problem, this has nothing to do with equal pay..." Well, that's where we reach the gray area.

That was my entire point, im saying if one side shouts "women doesnt earn as much as men" and the other shouts "No thats just bullshit". you won't really get anywhere - the truth is always somewhere in the middle, and it's sad that everyone just wants to be angry and treat a seriously complex topic like equality as a simple case of black vs. white.

Don't know why i wasted my time editing this, nobody gives a shit, but oh well.

Jander97 · 2015-03-23T18:42:14+00:00

What some people are trying to say (and failing) is that one seems more plausible, so is more evil to say. "Slap that bitch" is a real temptation sometimes. "Throw rocks" is a much less likely temptation.

Title	Amazon UK remove 'slap her' mugs, yet continue to sell 'Boys are Stupid, Throw Rocks at Them' products.
Author	dingdong89
Upvotes	1279
Comments	118
Date	March 23, 2015 2:38 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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