How is this legal?

Quakee · 2013-03-05T21:16:49+00:00

This is a private venue trying to get a mixture of males and females, knowing that males will be more inclined to go and pay more. It is economics and logistics, not sexism.

PerryB · 2013-03-05T22:33:12+00:00

Let's just play the race card, change womens to "White" and mens to "Black"....

Shitshow, commence.

WoodenGiraffe · 2013-03-05T20:03:59+00:00

Male tickets are now $190...While women's stay the same. http://story.wantickets.com/Events/123837/Armin-Van-Buuren-STORY/

GeorgeLiqour · 2013-03-05T20:58:39+00:00

Looks as if they have had a ton of guys buy tickets already and are trying to prevent a sausage fest by raising tickets prices on guys and putting up a sell out risk while keeping prices low for girls.

petemate · 2013-03-05T23:20:53+00:00

I have discussed this many times before in here, and it seems to me that US Americans have a, to me, very strange tendency to not see this as sexism or differential treatment, but rather as a natural aspect of private ownership and free market conditions. This is very strange to us europeans, as this would be very much illegal. In the EU, you are not allowed to differentiate based on gender. That also means that you are not allowed to charge different prices, based on gender.

BadenSac · 2013-03-05T22:36:23+00:00

Just buy the female ticket and tell them that you are female if they ask you. Honestly, what can they do?

Nerdloc · 2013-03-06T02:07:59+00:00

People have no problem with charging men more for stuff like this, but God forbid you ask a woman to pay a little more for health insurance, even though it's statistically proven that females use more health services than males. Where's the feminist backlash now, ladies?

herbandmargie · 2013-03-05T21:41:33+00:00

Fucking boycott it and stop supporting sexist organizations.

Pecanpig · 2013-03-06T02:27:15+00:00

Well...I'm going in drag.

See how many damned drinks they sell that way...

PierceHarlan · 2013-03-05T20:15:17+00:00

Boycott this bastard.

tarfogog · 2013-03-05T22:44:55+00:00

Well I'm sure its legal. Getting women packed into a venue is always a priority for promoters. It's not right by any means though. People should vote with their dollars though. Let the company pricing the tickets know you didn't buy a ticket because of the sexist pricing.

DavidNatan · 2013-03-06T00:22:01+00:00

They're just starting to make it illegal in Europe.

mbjhug · 2013-03-06T16:25:27+00:00

I'd like to point out the amount of times the word "Sausage fest" is written. I believe that this is bred into us from the beginning, like all sexist/misandrist propaganda. It inherently has a negative connotation (because, who wants to go to a sausage fest that isn't gay?), when in reality there is nothing wrong with hanging out and dancing with your fellow men, straight or gay and everything in between.

DavidByron · 2013-03-05T23:42:22+00:00

It probably isn't legal. People have sued and won in these cases across the USA. If the party is open to the public then you cannot charge different entry fees for protected groups which means basically by race or sex or religion. I think the California federal court recently added sexual orientation.....

Unfortunately because so many MRAs are idiotic libertarians they don't see this as unfair and falsely state that it is legal when it certainly is not.

beautyofspeed · 2013-03-06T00:48:46+00:00

While I wouldn't be inclined to go to this type of an event. As a woman I don't like the obvious undertone the different prices suggest. After all, if you are not the consumer, you are the item being sold in these types of things.

ENTP · 2013-03-05T20:41:49+00:00

Because misandry

Face2Palm · 2013-03-06T04:30:45+00:00

This is called price discrimination http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination and yes it is legal.

Thefluffydinosaur · 2013-03-06T04:14:21+00:00

By applying previously learned knowledge obtained from redditors who post about the minimum wage and the financial disparity between male and female workers... This is clearly an example of how awful it is...... Women just can't pay full price.... Sarcasm and lack of validity wreak this statement as my first Reddit post.

MCBigDick · 2013-03-06T13:07:26+00:00

Feminists are going to call this sexist against women. The only reason women's prices are lower is to get more to come so that there are more rape targets or some shit like that.

TheFarnell · 2013-03-06T23:17:59+00:00

Buy a female ticket.
Show up as if it was any other event.
If they give you trouble, tell them you're a woman.
If they still refuse, claim discrimination.
If they ask to check, accuse them of attempted sexual assault.
Enjoy the lulz.

Last_Years_Villain · 2013-03-05T22:14:05+00:00

Because they wont sell as much booze if only guys show up...unless the guys are gay.

hewittpgh · 2013-03-06T00:38:04+00:00

This is a business. A business is allowed to make decisions on how to run their business in any way they see fit. If the business decides that as a BUSINESS decision they want to make female tickets lower, that's on them. Moreover, it has nothing to do with discriminating against men. The business owner isn't sitting there like, I know, let's fuck over as many men as we can with this policy! His thinking went like this, "I want to make as much money as possible. Therefore, I should ensure as many women attend as possible so that men will want to come back to my events in the future." If you don't like it, don't buy a ticket. But the fact is, this tactic works, and works wonderfully. And no, there is nothing illegal about it.

unexpecteditem · 2013-03-06T00:46:04+00:00

What, the service charge? I know. Outrageous!

Disgracefu1 · 2013-03-06T09:30:41+00:00

It is just like strip clubs. Men pay and women don't usually. Men will go whether they have to pay or not, women don't really have a reason to.

bunker_man · 2013-03-06T11:33:17+00:00

Places like that exist to appeal to people's sexuality. They would go out of business if they did not do whatever they can to get more females to come. There's an interesting saying about how if you are not being charged for it, you are not the customer, you are the thing being sold. It has a similar basis here. Females, while being the customer are ALSO what is being sold to the males they are trying to attract. And if there is not enough, less males will come. If you don't like it, then try to discourage use of places like this at all. Not expect them to continue running with their business model damaged.

TheeBillOreilly · 2013-03-06T11:38:29+00:00

Typical South Beach. At the owners other club Liv, a group of good looking girls will skip the line without paying while guys will wait in line for upwards of 2 hours to pay $100 cover on a good night. Is it right? No, but it's the most superficial part of South Florida where rich old guys pick up 20 somethings, so what do you expect?

2013-03-06T12:09:57+00:00

I KNOW, Service charges are completely bogus...

I'll let myself out.

ImBloodyAnnoyed · 2013-03-06T13:28:57+00:00

Private enterprise.

Also, Bateman's principle

Mythandros · 2013-03-06T15:54:47+00:00

Unfortunately, clubs do this because without a lot of women there, it would be nothing more than a sausage fest. Which means the club wouldn't make any money.

It's discrimination, it's wrong but this is how it currently is. I wish I had a solution to this problem.

Galactic-Unicorn · 2013-03-06T16:07:49+00:00

Buy a female ticket and just say you identify as female. If they deny you access then you cause a media shitstorm.

TheRealPariah · 2013-03-06T16:42:55+00:00

Women should be treated equally (except if it isn't beneficial to the woman).

iamaom · 2013-03-06T21:06:31+00:00

If its a private company then they should be able to discriminate against whoever they want (men, women, blacks, jews, red-heads, etc.). If you don't like the discrimination don't use their services, vote with your wallets.

IHaveALargePenis · 2013-03-05T21:18:08+00:00

Do these tickets actually look different? What if you just bought the female ones if you're a man.

Rockshu · 2013-03-05T23:32:56+00:00

They probably both started at like $50 or maybe even $75. Then it went up as more tickets were sold. It's just that the tickets for guys sold out much faster than the tickets for girls and they don't want it to become a sausage fest so they jack up the price for guys to try and get an even balance. I don't see the problem.

Davethe3rd · 2013-03-06T01:26:03+00:00

Because they want women to go. Do you WANT to pay extra to invite your girl to a concert?

congenital_derpes · 2013-03-06T03:02:52+00:00

I have no idea whether its legal or not, but it should be. Regardless of whether I approve of the tactic or not, I support the bar owners right to charge whatever he wants to whomever he wants. The public has a powerful, non-legslative, way to influence such practices if they regard them as unacceptable. Don't give them your business.

brygphilomena · 2013-03-06T08:35:54+00:00

I'm not jumping on this bandwagon yet. I think there may be a set ratio for guys/girls and I'm okay with that. BUT until I know more I won't call sexism.

I know MANY of these events increase ticket prices as tickets sell out. The tickets may increase at the same rate based on availability and men's have just sold quicker.

Entrophic_Lovemaking · 2013-03-06T10:12:31+00:00

This really isnt sexism, its price discrimination, which is a very common practice and most of the time everyone is fine with it. Its really just good business.

commonly over looked prrice discrimination:

Presale of tickets
employee discounts
senior citizen discounts
free admission for the first one hundred

stufff like that, its just common capitalistic business practice.

goat_I_am · 2013-03-05T22:55:39+00:00

1 word: capitalism

1 character: $

jd_coud9 · 2013-03-06T00:29:05+00:00

Not legal in the US. They would lose a lawsuit, but who cares enough to sue? Same deal with "ladies night".

FriarTuck1234 · 2013-03-06T05:43:47+00:00

More men will go than women, or the venue knows younger males will come if there are more female. Its simple, more demand by males = higher priced tickets for males. IT isnt sexist

2013-03-06T16:30:15+00:00

Since when did attracting more women become a bad thing? I approve of ladies' night.

sendhamsterfirst · 2013-03-05T19:15:44+00:00

Because all men rape. Duh!

bronghits · 2013-03-06T03:27:08+00:00

its to prevent brofests and sausagefests. But either way, upvotes for AVB. You'll have a blast!

ARKLYS_ARKLYS · 2013-03-06T15:08:28+00:00

People should be paid to watch Armin van fucking Buuren

WilliamII · 2013-03-06T03:04:23+00:00

This subreddit is really getting out of hand.

Title	How is this legal?
Author	vasovist
Upvotes	350
Comments	222
Date	March 5, 2013 7:06 PM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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