Discussion: "Men Are Not Broken"

petrichordium · 2018-10-31T15:43:08+00:00

Lololol. The SCUM manifesto was better written and more entertaining. This hoe is crazy and unpleasant.

The funny thing is men have changed massively. The past used to be a cesspool of dueling over trivial slights, pedophilia, and just general brutishness. Hell you don’t even need to look in the past. Just look at all the backward shithole cultures she’s probably too “intersectional” to criticize. There are people rioting in Pakistan bc one sane judge refused to execute a woman who had been on death row for eight years for using the wrong water bucket.

This is bad cringe feminism that doesn’t deserve the name and can only grow in the most delusional cushy corners of a culture that disproves her point simply by existing. It’s like delusional libertarianism that could only exist in a culture whose safety net has made people forget how bad life can be without it.

toronto87 · 2018-10-31T15:49:44+00:00

What are you general thoughts on this blog post? What points do you agree or disagree with and why?

I think the author has severe psychological issues and is a misandrist female supremacist. I think it's a pile of drivel.

If you only look in the darkest corners of the world all you will find is darkness.

There was one Ted Bundy. There are over a million fire fighters in the United States.

Three men attacked the bataclan theater, and they were monsters, but an on duty police officer armed with only a sidearm phoned his wife to say goodbye and entered the theater alone, before french police commandos arrived with this shield and stormed the theater

But reality shows that all this male strength and sperm is completely wasteful and unnecessary. If tomorrow all men fell down and were dead, the biggest problem would be the stink.

OP needs to go outside and take a look around. The roads, sewers, water lines, gas lines, power plants, hydroeletric dams, sewage treatment plants, auto manufacturing facilities, mining operations, trucks, trains, the list could go on, are predominantly built, operated and maintained by men. If all the men died tomorrow civilization collapse.

sublimemongrel · 2018-10-31T16:16:07+00:00

I did not read the whole thing but it sounds like a reverse TRP blog post.

passepar2t · 2018-10-31T16:50:16+00:00

This is the only way for women to make a better future: Stop catering to men in any way. Don’t make them lunch. Don’t listen to their problems. Don’t pick up their dirty coffee cups at work. Don’t have male friends. Give up male family. Don’t have children. Don’t talk to men at all if you are not forced to. Don’t live with them. Don’t sleep with them. Don’t step aside on the street. Don’t take gifts from them. Don’t interact with them online. Don’t imagine the ″perfect″ man. Het women do that and when they don’t find any man living up to their ideals, they come to the conclusion that all men are scum while still clinging to their mental image of the perfect man. But the truth is, even the ideal man still is scum.

This sounds exactly like /r/incels but female. Are you suggesting we take this person seriously?

wekacuck · 2018-10-31T15:28:14+00:00

A male toddler squashing ants or dragging around the family dog by the tail isn’t even perceived as violent by most people

She needs to meet my daughters. It's not that girls don't do these things. The idea this sort of behavior is innately different is preposterous. It's more that when boys do it, parents accept it. When girls do it, they correct it.

goatismycopilot · 2018-10-31T18:25:22+00:00

This is how terpers sound. I guess they do not like seeing their own thoughts repackaged which is why they seem so huffy in this thread. Just being testerical.

hammerhaunts · 2018-10-31T15:27:19+00:00

She didn't need to use that many words to say a simple truth, that men are more violent.

The only realistic way for us to shape freedom for girls and women is seperatism

They wanted this to happen 40 years ago, and it didn't.

ATastefulNude · 2018-10-31T16:02:21+00:00

There is a reason for that. Men are utterly unimportant to me. There is nothing to be expected from them.Writing about what anti-feminist women and men should do is pointless. Anti-feminist women make choices I can only view with disgust and contempt; a sentiment that without a doubt is mutual. And men? Men can’t change.

While I don't personally agree with this sentiment, I have no problem with it on a fundamental level. If someone hates a certain demographic so much that they want to completely seperate themselves from it, I don't see why they shouldn't. She's free to isolate herself from whatever and whoever she wishes. I don't see how that is or should be significant to me or "MEN".

She's like a butthurt MGTOW, and like them she should shoo and go do her thing over there. No one cares about her edgy opinion.

bluepy67 · 2018-10-31T16:17:33+00:00

The writer is a hateful nutcase. My general thought on the post is it's too long (tl:dr).

Taipanshimshon · 2018-10-31T16:43:30+00:00

Blame men for your life ?

Check.

Expect men to be women ?

Check.

Blame men more ? Check

No insight into oneself and taking responsibility for ones own life ? Check.

Face of “ tru feminism “

LewisCross · 2018-10-31T15:26:49+00:00

Radfem hates men. Radfem forgets that sperm banks and machines to do heavy lifting exist because men invented them.

Radfem forgets that very, very intelligent men lack empathy and social cue intuition and it is precisely this singular focus that allows them to succeed and create the things like birth control pills and IUDs and maxipads and iPhones and roads and cars with antilock brakes and vibrators and Ubers, that women love and couldn't get through the day without.

Posts like this are why we don't love women anymore. Posts like this are why we don't do anything for women anymore. Posts like this do more to bulk up the manosphere, and MGTOW especially, than anything I have ever said.

SmurfESmurferson · 2018-10-31T15:31:29+00:00

She's a misandrist, full stop

I just skimmed, but two things jumped out at me:

"Highly educated people can be dense." She shouldn't be limiting that to men; book smarts do not translate to street smarts (or social smarts)

I can't decide if the recent trend of some men saying that they prefer pornography to actual sex is concerning or not. I guess I'd like to see number on whether these guys are just Darwinism in action, or if this is actually a growing trend. Most guys seem to want the real thing IRL

But yeah, she can go back under her bridge and start asking passers by to answer three questions

Mr_Smoogs · 2018-10-31T15:29:56+00:00

I think she has a fundamental misunderstanding about biology and an interesting biological determinism that's often found among radical feminists and conceptually similar to old-timey racist types. Basically "you were born X race or gender, therefore you will be Y."

I wonder what she considers "anti-feminist" too. There are regular users in this sub who believe you can be pro-Shariah law and be a feminist. So I'm not sure what even qualifies as "anti-feminist" anymore.

(Paging SpaceWhiskey and others who believe anything can be "feminist.")

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crackrocksteady7 · 2018-10-31T15:49:04+00:00

Wordpress blog? Dont care

Whodunnit88 · 2018-10-31T15:54:11+00:00

It's not exactly nuanced.

wtknight · 2018-10-31T15:55:19+00:00

This is just Red Pill in reverse, and even worse, because Red Pill claims that women can curb their impulses, while this writer seems to suggest that men cannot. I can’t take anyone who makes such sweeping generalizations seriously no matter what gender that person is.

KerPop42 · 2018-10-31T16:10:17+00:00

"Men can't change" is simultaneously one of the most condescending and enabling notions I hear in modern feminism and liberalism in general. It leads to the idea that you should just let half the population die off and replace them instead of going through the effort of talking to people who disagree with you.

321PK · 2018-10-31T15:40:39+00:00

Sounds like a lovely person. Anybody that would go by a dumbass name like “icemountainfire” is prob some fat weirdo in a dirndl skirt with long grey hair. I think about as much of her as I do the tards who post bizzaro and inflammatory crap about women in their “blogs.” Anybody can change.

wub1234 · 2018-10-31T15:53:05+00:00

I'm just myself. I don't consider myself to be part of a collective referred to as 'men'.

abaxeron · 2018-10-31T17:34:13+00:00

What are you general thoughts on this blog post?

It's a very poor, unoriginal, and unfunny satire.

vicious_troll · 2018-10-31T19:17:00+00:00

She's just too ugly to be noticed by men and she's turned her bitterness and jealousy into a misanthropic ideology.

TauregPrince · 2018-10-31T19:27:43+00:00

This premise obscures historical fact. The are good men out there. Great men. That started revolutions. Fought beside women, protected there family. Abolitionist. Suffragist. Presidents. Priest. Leaders in ever corner of the world.

Painting a demographic in one shade has led to some of the most villainous act is history. Like Genocide for instance.

Whoever this qoute originally comes from is a radical bordering on the point of extremism. Why should you take them serious?

Workaholico · 2018-10-31T20:14:26+00:00

She lacks empathy and is idealist to he point to not see what is in front of her, what about it?

Here4thebeer3232 · 2018-10-31T20:33:39+00:00

The writing is so half cocked, poorly thought out, rambling, and lacking actual scientific research that I almost thought it was an incel post. Incels at least have a sense of humor. It lacks the nuance and actual bite of actual radical feminists. This is just a tryhard attempting to sound radical.

And then I noticed it's from some tiny no name radfem website and posted 3 years ago. So props for somehow finding this OP.

goatismycopilot · 2018-10-31T21:36:31+00:00

In fairness to the blogger who is not a great writer most terpers are also horrible at it so another thing she has in common with them.

daveofmars · 2018-10-31T23:16:22+00:00

Projection. "There is nothing to be expected from them" can just as easily be said of women, and it might actually be more valid. But the author is too resentful to realize the irony.

And putting every problem on the shoulders of men is a simple and easy way to avoid any culpability for one's involvement in systematic problems, which we're all contributing to. Don't forget that every man was born from a woman.

I've seen a lot of different folks with a lot of different political positions and after considering them I've come to the soft conclusion that everyone's political views are merely personal views extended to the rest of the world, meaning that personality and psychology dictate nearly all of our worldviews. Everyone's politics is personal.

DaphneDK42 · 2018-11-01T00:03:54+00:00

After the revolution she'll be back in the kitchen where she belongs.

Hungry_AF · 2018-11-01T01:10:48+00:00

I think it's pretty articulate and I agree with for the most part.

ThisIsJustATr1bute · 2018-11-01T01:41:27+00:00

That was a lot of misandry, straight up. Actually men are broken and so are women; we are human and it means we have flaws and our life is about getting better.

beachredwhine · 2018-11-01T02:51:14+00:00

Poor girl. Never was good enough to get one of us to commit. So she watches, in rage.

What would be better for a garbage girl? This cat lady status? Or settling those precious eggs with a guy who do nothing?

What I think? This girl needs more cats to pet

mori_forthestreamer · 2018-11-01T05:05:46+00:00

She's probably damaged goods and is going to make all men pay for the monstrous actions of a few. Her words disgust me and anger me but in all likelihood she is probably someone to be pitied and loved because she didn't receive it enough in her life.

wobbleelbbow · 2018-11-01T11:30:01+00:00

Just yapping from a fat cat lady. What else is there to discuss? Stop reading such drivel, electra. Women aren't funny.

TriadFamilyTimes · 2018-11-01T20:36:35+00:00

I think that she took a ton of real problems and then swerved off on some biotruth bullshit every bit as bad as red pill ever has.

Men are taught too be aggressors. Men are taught they are less of a man if they are less aggressive. I don't think men subjugated women so they could establish financial dominance over women. I think men established dominance over women because men wanted power over other men and if you give a man power in his house, he will often not notice losing it in other places that are far more important.

What she claims is biology I say instead that no men are broken. Men have been lead down maladaptive paths which are contrary to both their emotional and physical health and often their bodily integrity. These paths did not come from male biology. They came from the seeking of power and the inability of humans to manage the desire for it. That's a facet of social evolution. We gained the power to stockpile wealth and weapons and to create hierarchies before we developed the emotional intelligence as a species to manage such things in any kind of a balanced way.

Not all men are like this. As it becomes acceptable and possible to walk away from traditional ideas of masculinity and male roles many men are choosing to do so without a backward glance. Those who those roles fit for cannot understand this. If they weren't they way they are they think they would want to be because that traditional masculinity does something for them it doesn't do for others. They do not understand that we never wanted to be like them. We aren't like them. And when we found out we could walk away and be accepted as men who are not the traditional example, plenty of us flocked. Look at The Rock. Terry Crews. Pretty much every male hero in marvel. Soft eyed men. Even Thanos suffered over love, and didn't hide from it. Emotionally intelligent even in the midst of suffering. Not lashing out in anger because he can't handle his emotions like an adult.

These aren't just female fantasy. This is what life is like on the blue pill side when you respect women and they respect you. Just, you know, uglier. We can't all be Chris Hemsworth.

And that's where this blogger is wrong too. Lots of men break the mold. Lots of traditional men aren't predatory. Some left wing men still are (Bill Clinton). Some men are violent while others aren't or don't have to be to be shitty (Bill Clinton).

Her over-generalizations are just as stupid and incorrect as saying that all women are hypergamous and that it's a universal primary selection criteria in dating. Evolutionary psychology is mostly bullshit. It pretends that nature overwhelms nurture and people are 90% their experiences past about age 10 when abstract thought begins to develop.

Nobodykers · 2018-11-02T07:51:45+00:00

This surely is an attention whoring troll right?

[deleted] · 2018-11-03T15:26:01+00:00

People do what they're incentivized to do. If you remove the incentives for men to try to become an upstanding person in society through sacrifice, he'll go do what he actually wants to do rather than sacrifice himself for no reward.

Women think men do the things they no naturally, when they mostly do it to impress women. If the women aren't impressed or punish a man for doing it, men won't do it. It's simple.

JezebeltheQueen5656 · 2018-11-03T21:05:58+00:00

i like it, every bit of it. if women were to follow her advize, males would go extinct.

women are being martyrs to males. unpaid labor. usually results in death but not before she sacrifices her body, energy and soul. all for nothing.

Title	Discussion: "Men Are Not Broken"
Author	Electra_Cute
Upvotes	6
Comments	269
Date	October 31, 2018 3:20 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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