Do y'all believe trans people exist ?

leosandlattes · 2025-07-10T00:07:32+00:00

I believe that they believe they exist. I think society is brain rotted about trans stuff. Cause it's like people don't even recognize tomboys or androgynous people anymore who still ID as their sex at birth. The number of "actual" trans people is likely smaller than what we are seeing, especially if you remove the weird AGP kink men trying to dress up as women.

Remarkable-Bird-4847 · 2025-07-09T23:43:36+00:00

Male and Female are sexes. There are only two. Traits associated with each sex are bimodal and not binary. Some are physiological and some are hormonal. Still nurture plays a very important role in determining personality. A feminine man is still a man. A masculine women is still a woman.

ViolentShallot · 2025-07-09T23:48:19+00:00

You can exist and be wrong. You can deeply believe you're a good person and still be a fucking asshole. You can believe deeply there's a god and still be wrong

You can deeply believe you're a woman and be a man.

caption291 · 2025-07-10T00:09:13+00:00

Some men are shorter than some women and vice versa....and no one would argue that that disproves the redpill so why would the same pattern but applied to brains disprove the redpill?

Also, You're kind of conflating something being hard wired with it being a binary distribution. You can be hard wired to a specific spot on a spectrum. By example, height is (for the most part) genetically "hard-wired" yet height is obviously a spectrum.

Ego73 · 2025-07-10T00:49:50+00:00

Yes; I don't really get how this relates to the red pill

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Schleudergang1400 · 2025-07-11T10:44:30+00:00

I see biology as the basis, so sex exists. Trans is with regards to gender, which is a social construct. Deviating in gender from biological sex might be something that should be "affirmed". I am not sure we currently know enough about it, so that choice of action is mostly ideological than scientific. If i had to bet, i would bet that we will come to the realization, that it's actually not something that should be affirmed, but rather looked at as a case for therapy to get gender in alignment with sex, if it's causing problems in the person's life and they want to change that fact. I am not seeing convincing evidence, that transgender affirmation really solves the problems these people have long term. Open to have my mind changed there and not having an ideological view on it to either side.

then how can one explain the existence of female-like men (on the most visceral reactions like not having the instinct to lead and compete, being nurturing like a mother etc) and male-like women (on the most visceral reactions like not having the instinct to be "choosy/selective" when it comes to sex)

That has nothing to do with transgender. Natural variations exist and are necessary for evolution to take place on. Niches are naturally filled and either lead to evolutionary success or not. Something existing doesn't mean it will survive to the next generation. Lots of maladaptions exist in the "current generation" at whatever point in time.

kvakerok_v2 · 2025-07-11T14:00:10+00:00

It's frankly irrelevant to the dynamic.

It literally doesn't matter what people self-identify as, in the context of having sex. People will fuck whom they want to fuck.
In regards to having kids, giving birth, etc - the actual physical bits matter, and no amount of self-identifying or surgery it's going to change that.

anonymousppd123123 · 2025-07-10T00:59:09+00:00

men bullying women into pretending they're women is actually hilariously male

catdog8020 · 2025-07-10T00:33:52+00:00

Good question for a physician or a medical professional. I think hormonal imbalances may explain for that behavior possibly.

Certified_Dripper · 2025-07-10T00:09:06+00:00

berichorbeburied · 2025-07-10T02:04:00+00:00

A man is a biological being that has xy chromosomes. That produces semen is fertile has a penis. Then transfers over to looking a certain way

A woman is a biological being that has xx chromosomes that carries ova and is fertile and is capable of birthing human beings. Then transfers over to looking a certain way

Behavioral patterns for us is split in two parts. Choice and biological advantage/possibility

So a woman could act like a man and a woman could act like a man. That’s a choice and performative. Some things men do is because of biological advantage and optimal efficiency. Some things women do is because of biological advantage and optimal efficiency.

Another aspect is attraction. A woman could try to look as close to a man and act as close to a man as possible. But that doesn’t equal men being more attracted to that woman. And a man can act as close to a woman and try to look as close to a woman but that doesn’t equal women being more attracted to that man

So in reality it doesn’t exist as a biological reality. It’s a mental thing where someone wants to do what they want to do regardless of the truth. And it’s called being delusional.

People can do what they want. But just because someone believes 2 + 2 = 5. That doesn’t mean it’s true. And that doesn’t mean that I then have to lie to myself also. And I don’t have to play along either

abaxeron · 2025-07-10T06:30:19+00:00

I don't know.

I do know that there was a huge public discourse around wether participation of trans women in female sports should be allowed, questioning your premise that "trans women have no instinct to compete" (for additional info, you can look up how well trans women are doing in e-sports). I also know of two contemporary trans women inventors ("which isn't a lot, but...").

If the progressoids weren't unleashing their cancellation demons onto any marginally interesting idea, we could have a nice TV show where the players have to guess if the person they're texting with has "male" or "female" brain, with both parties having full mandate to lie, but no right to refuse to answer any question. "WHAT... is your name? WHAT... is your mission? WHAT... is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?"

James_M_Croft · 2025-07-10T14:23:49+00:00

Yes, trans exist. But they are people who try to fix a problem the wrong way, if you are born thinking you have 4 arms instead of 2, you don't add 2 new arms, you go to therapy and fix your thinking.

However if RedPill is true and males and females are biologically hard-wired, so badly that "male" and "female" can straight up be whole categories of personality, then how can one explain the existence of female-like men (on the most visceral reactions like not having the instinct to lead and compete, being nurturing like a mother etc) and male-like women (on the most visceral reactions like not having the instinct to be "choosy/selective" when it comes to sex) ?

It says we are born with certain biological pressures. It is up to the individual to act on these or not.

Most women follow said impulses way closer than men, usually calling them "emotions", "feelings" or "gut feelings". To obvious disastrous consequences, resembling those of guys "who follow their dicks". It is the whole reason we often compare women's minds to teenagers, children or even babies. These individuals are closer to living on instinct instead of other things like reason.

These biological pressures are not perfect tho, they can bug out depending on the environment or hereditary conditions, like how women will have animals or inanimate objects instead of children. Female minded men and male minded females are a example of that.

Also, there is also the concept of autoeroticism, where youngsters while growing up confuse their attraction to the traits of the other gender, with liking these traits in themselves. Which is one of the reasons we avoid showing erotic content to children. The earlier you show someone erotic content, the higher the chance they won't take them well and cause mental anguish.

You can say society, but society induces roleplay, not instincts. If you say that society induced whole instincts re-writing, then maybe those instincts weren't so "hard-wired" after all.

Part of the red pill is all about how men are those above mere instinct in current society doing the so called roleplay while women are moved mostly by instinct... so... you preaching to the choir. The error here was to assume we think men and women are equals (which is rather funny considering what we write).

Title	Do y'all believe trans people exist ?
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Date	July 9, 2025 11:39 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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