I think I've seen couples where the guy is quite ugly, poor, low status, but the main difference between the guys who are in relationships and those who are trying but aren't is the silver tongue. If they work on EQ they can make up for all the other stuff.
Girls even forgive the guy being occasionally emotionally abusive. So misogyny or “bad personality” really isn't the reason that incels stay as incels.
I mean other than height, I think it's super important to be able to read the mood, crack jokes, participate in small talk, tease her, flirt confidently, exchange social graces, be witty, demonstrate social aptitude, social intelligence, pick up on implicit cues, body language, show empathy, regulate ones own emotions, show self control, etc.
This is the most important thing I feel in what makes a guy attractive to a girl. All the other stuff people claim here are not nearly as important as this. The recent increase in male sexlessness is due to men becoming more introverted, spending less time with other humans growing up, not developing these skills, spending time glued to electronic devices they are stunted and don't even take initiative to go out and socialize.
I think this is the main thing holding back incels. CMV!
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EQ just sounds like game to me.
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I don’t know that they have actual meetups. But this is a lovely positive thought.
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Talk therapy is frustratingly slow, expensive, difficult to access.
Dudes should participate in masculine group activities (sports, group fishing trips, anything but video games). Bachelor herds aren't the worst thing in the world.
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Do psychedelic drugs and make art with your bros? Go on long camping trips with your bros? The key is to have bros, and to do stuff with them. Fun, hard, impressive stuff.
My vision board for incels is that they buy a lake house and a boat together and spend the rest of their lives wakeboarding and shit.
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tl;dr: don't be on the spectrum.
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People having kids later in life. I'm autistic and I've been part of a vast autism support network. Nobody discusses it but from my observation atleast 90% of the people on the spectrum had older parents.
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