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I don't think so, that strike would have just as much likelihood of knocking you out open vs closed palm. The physiology behind why she was knocked out is actually really interesting! There are multiple ways that you can lose consciousness as a result of a punch or kick, but by far the most common is abrupt, excessive activation of the carotid sinus reflex. High in your neck (about the area that you feel your carotid pulse) your carotid artery bifurcates into the internal and external carotid artery. The spot where that bifurcation occurs is called the carotid sinus and is the single most important spot in the body for conveying to your brain what your current blood pressure is. When the carotid sinus gets squished (sorry for the medical jargon), the pressure inside the carotid sinus spikes through the roof for a second, and it sends a mayday message to the brain to drop the blood pressure immediately, which happens and since the blood pressure throughout the body wasn't actually high in the first place, the whole system shuts down. That cascade is called the carotid sinus reflex, and it's usually triggered in a fight when either a strike causes the head/neck to twist sideways (like in this video), compressing the carotid sinus, or when a punch causes the jaw to slide backwards and the carotid sinus is compressed by the angle of the mandible (this is what's happening when someone gets hit "on the button").

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"Pressure point' is not a medical term, it just means a spot on the body that can be manipulated in a certain way (pressed, massaged, poked, etc) to produce significant pain or other effects. Pressure points are used in traditional Chinese and Indian medicine and in some martial arts. That area of the neck would be considered a pressure point I imagine because manipulating it does produce downstream effects (reduced heart rate and vasodilation).

I can't see why striking the neck at the area of the carotid sinus with the edge of your hand wouldn't work to cause someone to lose consciousness, but the lack of convincing footage from my quick google search has me skeptical. This is the only video I was able to find: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DcaOr1TBA1w

Also, I'm not finding any martial arts (other than that one Krav Maga site) that teach a technique like a judo chop or throat punch knockout, and I would think that'd be widespread if it was a thing, given the popularity of pressure point exploitation in eastern martial arts.

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It seems all comments favoring the woman are being downvoted here, and given the title of the sub alone, it's fair to expect that (all judgements of its participants and their values/beliefs aside).

What gets me here is her hands were down. She basically yelled at him "give me your best shot" or something along those lines, then he hit her.

Body size and weight ratios alone here is sufficient to say knocking her the fuck out wasn't all that hard for him, open handed or not.

Yes, she had a shoe in her hand. Yes, she could have seriously injured him with it. He made a judgement call and I personally feel it wasn't the right one, but calling him an asshole or her a bitch literally changes nothing. He made a snap decision on the spur of a tense moment and that's all there is to it. I don't agree with it but I don't blame him for it either.

Personally I feel a simple shove would have sufficed - like he could send her flying several feet back, flat on her ass, easily. But then he would have to get in range of that deadly shoe. shrug

Gonna watch it again but 99.9% sure she is not faking, just based on the video alone.

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Doesn’t matter if it’s a flip flop (wasn’t) or a heel (was) or a gun (probably not but the world is full of creative individuals) she made a physical threat. He gave her a chance to back off, and she did for a moment before raising a potentially lethal weapon (as far as a court is concerned, and heels can and have caused death) so he disabled her ability to continue fighting and left it at that.

If you’re going to reply again that how he’s so much bigger or it’s a shoe, being small doesn’t give you the right to strike someone even if they are 8 9 10 times your size, period, or any size for that matter. Women want equality and to interject in the fight? Fine but that doesn’t absolve them of being hit because she’s smaller. They don’t want sexism, then my fists aren’t going to be sexist either, you hit people expect to get hit back probably harder so that your learn your lesson vagina or dick doesn’t matter.

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Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.

A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.

Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.

Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'

The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.

Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'

After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'

Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.

Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.

Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.

Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.

Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.

Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.

She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.

Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order.

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Here's the basic (not discussing deadly force) portion of the law in my jurisdiction relating to self defense:

“A person is justified in using reasonable force against any other person to protect the person or a third person from what the person reasonably believes to be the imminent use of unlawful force“

Source: https://codes.findlaw.com/in/title-35-criminal-law-and-procedure/in-code-sect-35-41-3-2.html

I think a slap is very reasonable force to defend against an assault with a weapon that can seriously injure or kill a person.

I'm taking the stance of defending a man who slapped a woman who assaulted him.

...and before you say claim she didn't assault him, assault is not generally defined as hitting someone, but intentionally putting someone in reasonable apprehension of imminent harm or unwelcome contact.

Source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/assault

So reality time for you: She set the stage by choosing coming at him with the shoe the first time (there by establishing a state of mind of intent to hit him) and when she moved with the shoe the second time, I'd say it is reasonable to think she intends to come at him again.

More name calling! I'm so impressed by your argumentative prowess! You certainly proved your point there! Wow...calling someone a name is the most effective evidence I've ever seen!

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Okay guy who is 3 days late. Nobody is stopping you from watching videos of men hurt women. I know it's your favorite pastime, and I am so sorry for shitting on it. How many videos of women do you need to see fall on the ground flat for you realize you're a terrible person? Also, I love how I'm obligated to reply to every single angry little boy screaming at me. Great logic from someone named keyboard spartacus who says "bruh". Like bruh. Bruh she had a heel bruh. Bruh. It's a piece of plastic FUCKING KILL HER, SHE HAS A SHOE OH NO SHE'S SO DANGEROUS. Really I'm trying to figure out how you people work. You just need an excuse so you don't feel bad about seeing a girl half his size being knocked flat on the ground and not getting up. She didn't touch him once, but he decided the best course of action would to be hit her right in the face. It's funny cause I just saw a video yesterday of a teen guy getting punched in the face by like five girls, and all he does is give a thumbs-up to the camera and smile. Yeah this guy, mr. Big Macho Man, just wants to throw around a bunch of girls like rag doll so he can feel powerful. At least he has his bad ass friends on the internet to protect him. Lmao imagine being this protective of hitting girls. Like I destroyed your whole identity by saying hitting girls as bad. Over here on a post 3 days late getting all worked up hahaha fag

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As long as he was looking at her, she was a zero threat. He did not need to hit her. She backed up immediately when he turned to face her, so either she was well aware of their size difference, or she realized that he didn't intend any further harm to her friend in the fight. Either way, she was appropriately backing the fuck up.

She was no doubt a little mouthy, she just saw a strange man bulldoze her friend. Maybe she said something along the lines of, "What are you going to do about it?", but that doesn't warrant physical violence.

Even when she raised the heel, that was part of her speaking gesture. She was not posturing to hit him with the heel at all in that moment. All physical aggression from her stopped immediately when his attention was on her. His hit on her was unprovoked, or provoked by words at the very most. Unacceptable regardless of the genders.

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Author	iNeedSp-ce
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Comments	932
Date	July 7, 2019 2:55 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
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