McAlphaDick pulls my girl so I respond by pulling another one. She comes back like nothing happened.

Thagros · 2014-04-02T05:16:10+00:00

Great fucking work, OP.

I find it remarkable that despite everything this subreddit has to teach us, there are still morons commenting that you handled this wrong; that she "disrespected you", that she needs to be punished, or you should have gone with the Latina girl.

I suspect that these are the Iron John anachronistic twats. The ones who mistake keeping a woman on a short, authoritarian leash, with masculine power. What could be more powerful than demonstrating to a woman that you have options, so that she pursues you?

raceAround126 · 2014-04-02T08:03:26+00:00

This is remarkably similar to an episode I had in uni. I was dating this girl and one fine evening she started dancing and grinding on some rugby dude. But we were at boyfriend girlfriend stage.

Anyway I thought nothing of it and followed a similar line to you. It backfired and 30 minutes later she had left with him.

Next morning she turned up like nothing happened and even tried to convince me of the same. Her bestest girl friend even showed up soon after to back up the story. She was amazed when I told her to fuck off...

FindMitch · 2014-04-02T02:37:01+00:00

dont fight for her. she is really just another plate, unremarkable, replaceable. apply the dread game if needed. in due time, everything you do will convey to women that they need you more than you need them. this gives you power.

we can't control everything. we can't control if a super star wide receiver comes in and dances with your girl. he's more physically attractive than you and probably has a lot more money than you. but he may never know the things you know.

puaSenator · 2014-04-02T05:07:25+00:00

Ha, the finish on this is one of my weak points... Here is the dilemma I face:

Say she comes back and all of a sudden ditches the guy because she doesn't want to risk a potential long term thing for a short term fling. So she starts getting all cute and hanging all over me. The problem is, I am actually still pissed. Still a little pissed that she did that in the first place, but mostly pissed that she returned thinking it was no big deal and I shouldn't care. I don't want to give her any attention after that. Plus I am now talking to two other chicks and having a good time.

Why should I just take her back after that move? So I just don't want to flirt with her or let her hang on me any more simply because she came back? Which comes off as sort of jealous and pissed off, which the pissed off part is true to an extent -- it's definitely shaking my frame.

Dunno, still something I'm working on.

PrinceofEden23 · 2014-04-02T01:20:15+00:00

Girls love making their men jealous, its like gives them a natural high or something. If your girl is attempting to flirt with a guy while your there best course is to ignore her, that drives women CRAZY, feed her attention and she'll know she's got you hooked. Deny her attention and she'll beg for it.

Let me give this story/analogy of sorts, you get challenged by a master to play a game of chess, how can you beat a master at their game? Answer: You don't, you pretend to sit down and play their game but you get up and punch them in their face.

Moral of story: Don't play their games, it brings you to their level and if you play, win or lose, you'll always lose.

Idrinkjdbythegallon · 2014-04-02T06:01:39+00:00

Girls in their last semester of college are so slutty. They basically assume they are entering a "new phase" after aka go back to their hometown and look for work or move to another city for a job. They use it as an excuse to bang everyone they were seriously considering. I got calls and messages out of left field. Sit back and enjoy just realize whats going on

blazingblue16 · 2014-04-02T05:53:45+00:00

No, see for every time this is done right, 100x there will be some dude who is like "oh.. uh.. this guy is macking on my girl, FUCK, I better show unreactivity and alpha-like abundance mentality and not do shit!"

99% of the time, the best move is to grab the girl and just pull her away. No need to fight, just move her assertively, if she was ever going to fuck you, she will follow. In fact, this used to happen to me a lot on the receiving end. I would be gaming up some girl, thinking its going well, and some dude, maybe her BF but sometimes just a more dominant guy, would just grab her and march her away and she would follow while shooting me these "teehee oh no, sorry!" looks.

Goddamn that shit was annoying, especially because with my limited knowledge, I'm thinking WTF, that guy had no game, doesn't even look good, and just up and moved this bitch like she was cargo. But I figured it out - I was being unreactive and unresponsive, showing beta qualities, not an alpha abundance mentality like I thought was attractive.

I used to live in LA, I had pickup wannabes in every club I would be able to get into, and many of these guys know the playbook. They know how to tool you, it was called AMOGing back in the day, and they know how to make you lose state / frame by telling you stupid things, cause the girl to associate you with creepiness or boringness, etc. But what they won't do is fucking claw the girl and move her.

And in your situation, yes, your way worked out, but 99% of situations aren't with a football 6'6' dude on his college campus. Bar fights are rare, I have only been in 2 my entire life, and neither was dangerous. So yeah, you should never get physical over a girl by hitting someone or doing that fratboy "you wanna go" + shove bullshit. But you should efficiently and quickly just move her. If you just started talking to the girl, it is actually a fantastic compliance test. Some snazzy dude comes over and tries to swoop the girl you are gaming, just say "over here, let's go," and move her away, continuing your conversation.

The guy who goes for it first gets it 90% of the time. Intent + confidence, you telegraph that by just assuming her compliance and assuming its OK for you to grab her fairly firmly. This idea was sparked by an experience in South Korea, when my huge asian friend repossessed the girl that some white guy had stole when he was in the bathroom. He just picked her up and placed her back at her seat and said what I am told was our equivalent of "bad dog, you stay put this time."

magx01 · 2014-04-02T02:25:01+00:00

McAlphaDick turned her down, eh?

abXcv · 2014-04-02T10:16:48+00:00

This is very very impressive.

A lot of people outside this sub wouldn't understand, but to me it looks like.

Something bad happened to you.
You felt very strong emotions and a desire to satisfy them.
You also logically knew what you should do.
You tore away from what you wanted to do, and did what you knew you should do.
You were rewarded for it in the end.

This is pretty much the essence of being a man - you felt your emotions, but listened to your logic although it was difficult.

TL;DR - Good job OP you stoic motherfucker.

2014-04-02T01:43:48+00:00

Or you could think of this as fighting. You can't fight a woman like she is a man. You can't charge in head first, beating your chest and demanding she "come outside".

You were spot on

Archwinger · 2014-04-02T18:58:38+00:00

You're not giving this woman nearly enough credit.

It takes about 5-10 minutes, tops, for a woman to hang with a guy, dance with him, or whatever, and trade numbers, make arrangements for sex at a later date, place, etc. Then, she can do damage control, come back to her original man, and let him feel like he's won.

You can't follow her everywhere, all the time. So Tuesday night, when she's not out with you, she's getting McAlpha's big dick in every single one of her holes, twice. Wednesday night, she's out with you, smiling ear to ear over how awesome manly red pill alpha you think you are, and you never suspect a thing.

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DanG3 · 2014-04-02T10:08:53+00:00

The nature of ALL women is to be hypergamous. They will try to attain the highest ranking and most desirable Alpha that they can attract and keep. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are a "hoe," it means they are a desirable woman.

She was testing both her desirability and you in this situation. She did prove to herself that she could monkey branch to McAlphadick. But, your actions PARTIALLY - somewhat - showed her that she would possibly not be able to swing back - because you took up with the Latina. Women know that high ranking Alphas are a security risk, likely to be pump and dump. While she could have swung to McAlphadick, Karen knew that it would have ended with a pump and dump. As one of the other posters noted, some women actually go through with the P&D and then show up the next day. By your taking up with the Latina, Karen realized that she would have ended her swing to McAlphadick with a free fall.

BUT, she also learned that she could swing back to you and that you would dump another for her. That's the remaining and unresolved bad part of this situation. It's too late for words at this time, and words are risky anyway. You will be given another "opportunity" - she will test again. If you want to recover and improve her respect of you, you will need to - at the first sign of her bad behavior - take action to mate guard. It could only be that eye contact is needed. You may try to move her WITHOUT going so far as to provide her opportunity to act out. If she complies you should decisively and briefly recall her previous behavior with McAlphadick and that you won't tolerate the like again. If she gives shit, walk away. It's over unless she follows immediately. If she does follow DO NOT engage her hamster - STFU! The next day, when the alcohol has dissipated from both of you, you make a very clear and concise statement that you will not tolerate bad behavior from her or any woman. End of discussion. Do not engage her hamster. STFU!

Women are (essentially) children. They need to be individually trained. Like children, they will test you and test their boundaries. I think as Men, we need to train them collectively. I'm not necessarily a proponent of nexting a women at the first time that she displays her hypergamous nature as a Woman. Her feminine desirability - proven by the caliber of man she can attract - is, after all, what makes her hot. Women feel good about themselves when they know they are hot - to other men who don't necessarily have oneitis for them. They need to test for that desirability from time to time to feel hot. (But, they also need to know that it can only be a test.) Why would you not want a hot woman?

Your job and challenge in the relationship with a hot woman is to manage the relationship - the hot woman - such that she has FULL assurance that you will provide the beta security and comfort that she needs while at the same time providing the Alpha frame as a Man that she wants. That frame includes your physical and mental fitness/attractiveness and the wherewithal to keep her in line - including the proven assurance that you WILL dump her like a hoe if she attempts "shit."

a_chill_bro · 2014-04-02T03:08:27+00:00

The football player sounds Irish.

All bullshit aside, well done OP. Well fucking done.

DanG3 · 2014-04-02T01:47:12+00:00

Re: "marking me as her man and shit"

Some rhetorical questions:

Who is controlling the relationship?

How did you actually react to her bad behavior and disrespect of you - What did your actions say to her - Did you sanction her, or reward her shit?

Have you given her any indication as to what will happen if she pulls the same shit again?

After your observation of her behavior in this situation, how would you rate her "quality" as a woman (while trying to give some consideration of the hypergamous nature of all women)?

behringer__ · 2014-04-02T03:23:03+00:00

Yeah but what if you couldn't pull any other chick on that night?

mordanus · 2014-04-02T00:51:35+00:00

Now work your magic for a threesome with the latina girl. But seriously man good on you for handling it well.

DreadMe · 2014-04-02T02:17:12+00:00

Nicely done, sounds like you handled the situation perfectly keep up the good work brother.

FloranHunter · 2014-04-02T06:49:18+00:00

This would be the RP "fight for her". Some Sun Tzu shit.

pewpewing · 2014-04-02T07:47:07+00:00

Story reminded me if how pet cats act. No joke.

Jsnoopy93 · 2014-04-02T09:47:09+00:00

Lets say you didn't catch her attention at first or maybe you didn't pull that hot latina, what would you do then? You're basically making her jealous but that doesn't have guaranteed success rate all the time right?

SSolus · 2014-04-02T13:48:01+00:00

damn son lol you did great

mechakingghidorah · 2014-04-02T14:10:47+00:00

Dread game OP, that's the ultimate trump card, but it seems you already know that.

Evesest · 2014-04-02T18:20:31+00:00

Did you go with the latina and tell that smut to catch wind?

watersign · 2014-04-02T23:16:05+00:00

SO..did McAlphadick hook up with your girl?

RamJamtheBarbarian · 2014-06-06T08:11:34+00:00

I would of fucked the Latina. Then they both could compete for you haha.

JohnGalt316 · 2014-04-02T04:49:18+00:00

imo, why not leave with the hot latina

you already know how far you can go with Karen

at best she is a hookup; at worst you marry her only for her to leave everytime McAlphaDick comes along

why not try things out with hot latina? don't get complacent looking for quality girls because you have a sure thing in a hookup

iluminatiNYC · 2014-04-02T09:48:00+00:00

Sidebar: as someone who is 6'5", Black and in decent shape (though not NFL draft pick shape), I appreciate the lack of PC. It just means that when I have a taste of White women, they're more...motivated, and I can turn down the alpha. Racism sucks, but I can't say it doesn't have any bennies. :)

LukeMooney · 2014-04-02T08:07:49+00:00

I would have fucked the Latino - after that, she'd do anything for you, be completely infatuated with you, and would never ever be seen dancing with any guys in front of you, as she would immediately remember what happened last time. Cool story though - well played.

Tastysalad101 · 2014-04-02T08:53:34+00:00

I kinda feel bad for the latina girl though she was buying you drinks and stuff then the other girls comes back and she's kinda screwed over.

Fantastical14 · 2014-04-02T06:10:04+00:00

Well done. Good FR.

Blue942 · 2014-04-02T10:10:48+00:00

What would you have done if the latina wouldn't have approached you?

Idontlikekarmawhores · 2014-04-02T12:57:09+00:00

You have done great young one. If it happens again, take it a little further and just completely ignore her;)

p5ych0naut · 2014-04-02T13:26:28+00:00

A+ performance on your part! while the "logical" thing to do may seem like its to fight for her, it may come as a surprise that girls do not act logically, they act emotionally. when they see you losing your cool (acting like a beta), they immediately move into manipulation mode, trying to play off your emotions. but when you turn it around, like you did, and be alpha about it, the girl ends up playing herself, feeling foolish, and coming back to you.

and I agree with afcpoop, your final paragraph is especially poignant.

misanthropeguy · 2014-04-02T13:38:38+00:00

It's funny how both ways can be intuitive in a sense and I would say that grabbing the girl and trying to drag her out isn't necessarily beta, and isn't necessarily wrong. But definitely the route that op took is the smarter play. I think a lot has to do with how emotionally involved you are with the girl.

2014-04-02T17:11:58+00:00

Good work, soldier.

dennisbergkamp10 · 2014-04-02T17:52:55+00:00

Well done sir, well done! Be proud of your self! You got to love the one rule for the lady another for the man, well in their minds in any case.

HeadingRed · 2014-04-02T17:56:32+00:00

In my 40's, in a 8 year LTR and this shit works pretty much the same way. Replace McAlphadick with pretty much anything else. Don't compete - just do your own thing. She will come back.

Mouthpiece · 2014-04-02T21:53:14+00:00

Impressive self-control. Nice result.

mr_throwz · 2014-04-02T23:24:46+00:00

Now you know what kind of person she is and can proceed accordingly.

pontifx · 2014-04-03T06:46:49+00:00

Only question to ask when the deal isn't closed is who is pulling who.

Nicely done.

Some girls you gotta close on the nightly, I think it has something to do with how social they are.

tsotha · 2014-04-02T00:46:31+00:00

You should drop that hoe, ASAP, or just degrade her with some weird sexual stuff then leave.

garlicextract · 2014-04-02T17:29:46+00:00

Was McAlphaDick actually a dick? Don't hate the player, hate the game right? Guy can't help it if he's a huge black football player.

ChangingThings · 2014-04-02T06:06:01+00:00

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GhostInTheRedPill · 2014-04-02T09:19:57+00:00

It sounds more to me like McAlphaDick granted you one of his castoffs. After all, you say she was only an 8 or 9. He cruises at the 10+ altitude in your town. She was lucky to have got as close as she did.

Nevertheless, your actions, state and frame were acceptable for your own self worth's sake. The latina was the icing on the cake of remaining centred. A good lesson in emotional control, in which you didn't wipe out. Well done.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-04-02T02:27:39+00:00

Couples in semi-healthy relationships do shit like this all the time; it's called foreplay. They get bored with fucking each other, so they spice things up by flirting with other people, entertaining a little fantasy, building up a charge, and then releasing it on each other later in the evening.

RebootedMale · 2014-04-02T06:11:15+00:00

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tehwankingwalruses · 2014-04-02T04:05:48+00:00

black dick

Once a girl stoops down for that, she has lost any and all value she once had. She is worthless after.

2014-04-02T07:07:19+00:00

ANDD you wasted your night on a cunt. Better to have paid a stripper and hung with the guys--the people you can depend on.

doctormisterjohn · 2014-04-02T01:43:13+00:00

This is one of the more fake stories I've ever heard. "So anyway, I’m having a few drinks outside with my buddies and Karen goes inside to dance with her friends. I would have danced with her but her friends fucking hate me" It's too perfectly suited to this sub. The faggots will just suck that up. Slurp slurp bastards.

neo-nonpua · 2014-04-02T02:48:20+00:00

We’re both seniors in college so me and her agree that there is no sense on putting a title on things.

In other words, you almost got squashed by a massive future-pro football player for the sake of a chick who you wouldn't even bother calling your girlfriend?

In another light, though, that justifies you allowing her to slobber on you to "mark you as her man" when you had a perfectly good opportunity to ditch someone who will likely cheat on you if things start to get less-than-soap-opera-exciting again. Thankfully senior year only lasts for a year, and the two of you weren't a real couple in the first place.

dongpal · 2014-04-02T07:13:10+00:00

wait, you dont dance with your girlfriend but rather with another stranger woman only to make her jealous?

Bellamelly · 2014-04-02T20:19:42+00:00

"She’s probably around a solid 8 or 9. I would never tell her that but she is."

Why not? Afraid she'll deem herself too attractive, receive an ego boost, and then leave you for someone else? That just reeks of insecurity.

"We’re both seniors in college so me and her agree that there is no sense on putting a title on things."

Ok, so you guys are FWB. Friends with benefits. You've both agreed to be friends. Just friends. Friends who have sex, that's it, nothing more. Right? Got it.

"I had that feeling in my chest where I felt my heart sink."

Either you are being sexually possessive over a friend who you just happen to have sex with or you actually have romantic feelings for her. Did you guys state that you would ONLY be having sex with one another? (Which btw is sexually possessive) If not, isn't she technically (as well as you) allowed to have sex with someone else? Why all the feelz?

"no self-respecting male wants to lose their girl"

How is some chick you hook up with suddenly "your girl?" Does she know she's yours?

"I can’t describe how incredibly challenging this was for me at first but I weathered through my emotions."

Ok, I'm just going to go ahead and say that you dig this chick. 8/9 or not, there are plenty of other women to have sex with. Why get so emotionally wrapped up in this one?

"Lo and behold my efforts were rewarded with a hot latina girl."

Your efforts, even though you probably did nothing but naturally attract the latina, were still motivated by manipulation. You knew that as soon as your friend saw you with another woman, she would be all over you again. If your friend isn't dumb, she will pick up on this and later hold some sort of resentment over it. Now, if her dancing with Alpha guy was also motivated by manipulation, then she is just as much to blame. You don't fight fire with fire, though. Both feel burned, trust erodes. It's just bad.

"Funny how that bitch was ready to ride the cock carousel"

I don't know your friend, but simply dancing with another guy (Being attractive doesn't automatically mean a woman wants to bang a guy. She may of saw him as relationship material) doesn't automatically mean she wants to screw him. Even if she wanted to, you are not exclusive, yes? That shouldn't matter. She could also assume that you were ready to bang the latina chick. It works both ways.

"Because not 5 minutes later she wedged herself back into my friend group. Getting close, kissing me, marking me as her man and shit."

She's clearly sexually possessive over you. She probably likes you.

IMO, you didn't need to "fight for her" or use any form of manipulation. She's a FWB. So what? While the situation seemed to of worked out in your favor, I'm not really understanding what you actually gained from this. Subtle manipulation to "win back" a FWB? Sounds lame. If you have to "win back" anything, it never was yours in the first place. Just my 2 cents.

Title	McAlphaDick pulls my girl so I respond by pulling another one. She comes back like nothing happened.
Author	mozeiny
Upvotes	494
Comments	213
Date	April 2, 2014 12:17 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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