It just feel like it's all about looks?

Subutai_Baghatur · 2021-03-16T10:44:32+00:00

It just feel like it's all about looks?

No it is not but when all you are putting up on dating apps are pictures of yourself standing or leaning then you make it all about looks.

I don't even consider myself a bad looking dude, 6'4" 205lbs 6/10 face.

You are not bad looking but

1, you are not giving girls an opportunity to see your height so you could easily be 5’4” with those pictures and nobody would know otherwise.

2, your style in all of the pictures is quite bland. Very clean, corporate and ‘nice’. It looks more like a LinkedIn profile.

Add some pictures of you

with other people to show off your height
in fitted t-shirts, shorts or topless (if you have the body for it) and
doing something fun, a hobby or in front of a well known landmark

MatingAdvice · 2021-03-16T11:43:31+00:00

Are you approaching only through dating apps?

volvostupidshit · 2021-03-16T10:35:14+00:00

If I had your face and height I would fuck everything in sight including your mom.

Terrorinthecity1 · 2021-03-16T11:45:51+00:00

Bro you look good like real shit it has to be your inner game and confidence that you need to work on I’m telling you is not looks. And people going around saying look like a soy boy; to me you look more like a classy dress up type dude which is not bad in my book

JohnZeman · 2021-03-16T12:51:49+00:00

My former boss is 40 years old, has been bald since his early 30´s, never lifted a dumbbell in his life, if he isn't wearing a suit he is dressed like a homeless person and is fat while being around 5 feet 2 inches tall but his girlfriend is 10 years younger and 7/10 look wise, also no he isn't rich. Don't ever take the blackpill, it's extremely contra-productive and totally untrue.

fuckboychadlmao · 2021-03-16T15:38:05+00:00

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SinisterSwindler · 2021-03-16T11:24:40+00:00

You look like a fragile pussy. Good looking but soft. Get a bit more masculine, get social proof.

I have a topless pic of myself half naked showing my 8 pack, chest arms and face and i get most girls with that picture alone.

Show some edge, you look like the beta a woman settles for after not being able to acquire her chad. Get a picture of you in the gym, with girls, doing some activity.

No girl wants a boring headshot try a picture of you posing or being cheeky.

Theres a reason why we say: LIFT.

jklifexxx · 2021-03-16T10:27:48+00:00

You’re a good looking dude don’t sweat it society has conditioned woman as well as Betas telling them that they are gods gift to the world. Don’t let other people dictate your self worth

WolfofAllStreetz · 2021-03-16T13:15:28+00:00

Now we got 6”4 incels whining. Pathetic.

Wolf_- · 2021-03-16T12:49:46+00:00

You just look like a nice guy. Nothing sexual or fun about your pictures. No social proof, nothing going on. You look good, like a nice man. But more like a husband and father, than a sexual partner.

Artistic_Guest4386 · 2021-03-16T10:39:06+00:00

You look like the guy she settles down with, boyfriend material etc.

You have no "danger" about you. You just look like a nice chill guy that other guys would want to hang out with an mid level girls would want a relationship with.

Could be much worse dude.

armenian_UwUcide · 2021-03-16T12:37:27+00:00

Well, you’re using a dating app so yes, when they swipe on you, they are swiping on a group of pixels depicting you. These apps in general are a shit tier way of meeting women but if your goal is to pump and dump broads several points below you then have at it.

soltanparham · 2021-03-16T11:25:38+00:00

Idk if anyone feels the same but i feel you look a bit depressed/sexless in your pics!! your style is good your face is good but you look sad in pics! + your haircut and hairstyle can be so much more attractive! i suggest you re create 2-3 of your pics and take at least one picture shirtless or in tank top , girls wanna know how your body looks like

Musicgoon · 2021-03-16T10:29:25+00:00

Get off the blackpill forums. Stop talking to losers. Women aren't men. They are attracted to different things than looks.

That's why we have this wonderful tool called THE SIDEBAR that you should read and use.

Pres-Bill-Clinton · 2021-03-16T12:44:40+00:00

Have pictures of you doing stuff and out with friends. These pictures make you look lonely and boring.

linkofinsanity19 · 2021-03-16T12:57:42+00:00

Why are you complaining about something you have at least some control over? On top of that, you aren't as bad off as some guys that will still go on to fuck 8s, maybe some 9s, and a 10 or two. Wait a week and you'll see a guy post here ab about how he got passed over for some tall dude and that it's all about 6'0 or taller only with women. There are various factors that play into looks, many of which you have some control over. Shit, you got lucky because height is a hurdle most short guys will never clear. Assess your areas of weakness that you have control over and do what you can to mitigate them. More importantly,play to your strengths. I'm 179cm and I have a plate who's 180 cm but has told me how hard it is out there for her because most guys have no game, which means even less tall guys for her. You could fuck all the tall girls you want with just a bit of lifting and a bit of game because there is almost no competition in that field.

women_deserve_love · 2021-03-16T11:20:03+00:00

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DLifts777 · 2021-03-16T12:15:34+00:00

Most of the comments have nailed it already, you look too safe and boring, it wouldn’t surprise me if you told me you work in Audit or Accounting. I was very similar to you before, 6ft3 white high IQ introverted nice guy who was taught to treat women with the upmost respect. That shit just isn’t attractive to women when they’re looking for casual flings. They want fun edgy bad boy. That means getting jacked, tanned (pale skin gives off incel basement dweller vibes), laser eye surgery (you don’t have enough alpha points to pull glasses off) and showing off how fun and low inhibition you are. There’s no point changing your personality until your looks change, as people just won’t buy into it. They’ll think you’re having a quarter life crisis or pretending to be someone you aren’t. Your looks and personality need to be congruent (this fucked me over for a long time).

Ask yourself what you’re looking for though. If it’s casual sex then you need a complete overhaul, it depends how comfortable you are with this. If you’re looking for something more serious with more classier women then I’d recommend Hinge over Tinder. There’s some super educated girls on there that are looking for exactly your look, so they can take you home to their parents and show you off. They won’t let you hit it on the first night like they did with Rico or Tyrone when they went on their girls holiday to Mexico, but casual sex isn’t everything (at least after you’ve had plenty of casual sex).

Regarding roids, my main advice is really do your research, watch stuff by MorePlatesMoreDates on YouTube. I’m 6ft3 240lbs jacked natty, but it took me 5+ years to fill out my looong frame. I imagine you don’t want to wait that long so it makes sense to look for shortcuts. Also having some high T coursing through your veins won’t do you any harm. There are sacrifices and side effects which you should be aware of before you start. Read about the neck pill. As I said, have a long hard think about how much you want to commit to being a Chad pussy slayer, also you may find that you have to ditch old friends (they most likely won’t accept your change) and also distance yourself from your family a bit (your conservative parents might find you a bit odd). Best of luck mate

Infernir · 2021-03-16T12:06:48+00:00

This is something i've always disliked about TRP since I found it years ago. They tell you to looks max but they never go into the deeper reasons why its so important when talking (unless correlating it with an entirely different thing that generates attraction)

The truth is

Women do not care about looks, they only love sexier looking men because they think other women love them and it generates pre selection, hypergamy, power/dread all together

The other only way women care about looks is if they want you as an accessory to show off, female solipsism, or think you're not good looking enough to get the approval of or jealousy/admiration from their friends, family, peers, everyone.

Now, does any of this tie into having sex with a women? no. Theoretically based on this idea, if you have strong enough frame you can literally sleep with any women of any class status or even gasp looks. This means that 10/10 girl will sleep with you, if you're a good enough average man that displays enough confidence, charisma, frame... and its convenient for her to sleep with you (logistics). But this also means she probably won't want a relationship with you unless you two are pretty isolated from others & she doesn't give a shit what anyone else thinks.

Redditorsheaven · 2021-03-16T13:10:41+00:00

I wouldn’t Advise that mentality. I despise dating apps which gives completely false conception of the reality and compared to the girls I dated the matches are fucking ugly. So I just use them as fun tool not a main strategy. IRL scenarios are much better, however if I get rejected in real life it’s their problem not mine

donaxi · 2021-03-16T14:19:25+00:00

"I don't even consider myself a bad looking dude"

Maybe you should start thinking of yourself as a sexy motherfucker instad of *not bad looking*

Omario6 · 2021-03-16T14:54:53+00:00

damn if you are able to pool 5s while being 7, i wonder how i would do with looks not as good as yours..

DavidCameronEtonLad · 2021-03-16T11:11:39+00:00

You're a good looking dude so that's not the issue. Tall in shape etc etc. But you come across as just some guy. The type women will just call "sweet" or "nice". I'd personally encourage you to change your style up because it's just so vanilla and safe. Also have something about you that drives you. Get into combat sports for example, you'll start walking different when you know that you can beat up 80% of the people you bump into. It's about the aura you present yourself as having as well as the physical attributes that you can work on too

FudgingEgo · 2021-03-16T11:22:18+00:00

Just put your height in your bio and you’ve already won...

bigmanpav · 2021-03-16T10:37:33+00:00

You're great looking and tall. Get into cold approach. My self esteem took a hit after all my matches dried up on swiping apps and cold approach really worked for me

Trp2727272 · 2021-03-16T11:31:18+00:00

Honestly dude I think you’re putting these 7+s on a pedistool and not even realising it - and it’s changing your actions with them.

You should have ZERO issues getting with 7+ girls. At all. You look high class, good looking and you’re 6’4. You’re an 8-8.5 yourself, so why the fuck would you have trouble smashing 7+s if it isn’t for how you’re acting with them/your personality.

I hope you’re lifting, if you’re not, start. There’s nothing better to do for confidence. Your face and height will only carry you so far.

Sidebar should be your main resource.

scissor_me_timbers00 · 2021-03-16T13:00:04+00:00

I would cut out the top left pic. You just look a little despondent. You want to look upbeat and confident.

Your height is a major advantage dude. If I were you I would get fucking jacked. Lift weights religiously, like get to peak natty. You’re not a bad lookin dude, you should be able to pull 7s and the occasional 8.

SenorTonto · 2021-03-16T13:28:23+00:00

lol bro you're good looking guy. You dudes need to learn how to self-evaluate.

I'd say your problem is frame and self-confidence. You shouldn't care this much about getting some THOT in the 8-10 range. Why does that matter so much?

You are putting these women abover yourself and thats obvious from the framing of this post. if you understood you are a catch also you would think more highly of yourself. Improve that

and focus on meeting women in real life. OLD is a mind fuck

tiverma · 2021-03-16T13:34:22+00:00

It's not all about looks at all. I recommend reading the sidebar - specifically about Frame

OneTrueQ · 2021-03-16T13:37:47+00:00

Well bro you’re 6’4” which is a huge plus you can get any bitch with that. Needa just up your game. You’re not even remotely ugly dude you have no negatives. It’s really not about looks where you’re at tbh.

Andgelyo · 2021-03-16T14:20:41+00:00

Ask yourself, what are you truly looking for? If you are looking for something long term, then based on your appearance and photos you are doing it right. If you want something more short term, you are doing it wrong. You have no “dangerous, bad boy, alpha” look to you. If you want the latter, I suggest you change your photos, start lifting, and have more engaging photos.
Looks matter only if you want something short term. Your personality and everything else comes into play if you want to maybe get to know a girl and start dating her. This is the exact reason you will find not so attractive guys with fairly attractive women. This is also the reason you will find all types of women sleeping with attractive guys and keeping hush about it.
Be careful not to dox yourself here.

Snowboard18 · 2021-03-16T14:53:56+00:00

You’ll slip into the imcel victim mindset if you keep believing this shit.

Obviously though, looks do help a bunch. But there’s the majority of guys that aren’t too good looking so they must make an important decision that will determine how successful you’ll be w girls in the future....

Either 1) You become angry that you don’t have top tier genetics, so you decide to stop trying with girls and complain like pussy that girls aren’t just jumping on your cock left and right without you putting in the work.

Or 2) Be Stoic about it like a man should.

Accept the things you can’t change, and change the things you can without letting it effect you much. Actually become the most attractive you can be by putting in a ton of hard work

The guys that adopt the 2nd option have my respect. When a dude decides to stop complaining like a pussy online and actually gets jacked, achieves his goals, actually develops the important gaming mindsets (abundance mentality, outcome independence, and idgaf attitude), the red pill gods nut themselves

2021-03-16T16:07:04+00:00

Bro, are you kidding? You are a solid 8-9/10 don't be fuckin' shy.

Rhyat250 · 2021-03-16T18:08:01+00:00

You look really skinny dude

AllocNeighley · 2021-03-16T18:17:29+00:00

Looks, status money

Then game to shoot you to the moon

GameDevUX · 2021-03-16T18:29:53+00:00

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EdvardMunch · 2021-03-16T20:10:59+00:00

Dude im considered a hot good looking dude. In fact the last girl I chatted with from a dating app said this and never responded.

Now... I know a lot of dudes will object to this but a big factor is being fair-haired. It comes off as soft and weak. Especially with a kind face and you have that. I can relate trust me.

You need to do extra work to look wrong, naughty. You need to look like a bad boy at this age not a financially responsible real estate agent. Im giving myself advice here to, Im just stubborn at doing what works versus what I think should work.

This is esoteric but consider most light things are airy, reflective, fleeting. Dark things are solid, quiet, they absorb over reflect.

Odds are to 5s youre gold, you are better than they can usually get and they have a higher sense of security because they arent hot. Hot girls are very insecure, its hard to uphold such a power and the fear of losing it is great as it may be who they've come to identify with.

Online I suffer from the problem of offering great validation which has no future potential growth. There is a key difference between good looking and want to fuck too. Know your angle, play that and your audience.

ScholarLad · 2021-03-17T04:31:33+00:00

My advice is not to dox yourself on this subreddit. That is a terribly stupid thing to do. I’d strongly advise you to delete your post. TRP is suicide for most careers in our left wing society. And the internet is forever. Barring that, the other recommendations are all sound: frame, IRL pitch, more edgy photos.

RedEyeBlackEye1 · 2021-03-17T05:29:34+00:00

It's a combination of so many things that it's not even funny. What I mean is that looks can be so many different things. Looks can be facial looks, body looks, having A look, having THE look(for most girls or just what THAT particular girl goes for). Even then, there are other smv character stats to consider. Masculine swagger (aka body language), charisma, "game", frame, etc are HUGE attraction points to females.

Try this:

1) fix your posture, walk with masculine swagger (think gosling, Thor, the Rock, Elba, cavill in the Witcher).

2) get a better more masculine haircut for your face shape. Maybe get a fade undercut or a pompadour.

3) eat macros(especially protein), Supplement b complex, and eat 2-4 eggs everyday.

4) noFap and semen retention.

5) lift lift lift lift lift. Gotta bulk up homie.

6) drink enough water and get enough sleep.

7) work on your charisma, and staying in frame while spitting your "game".

2021-03-16T10:28:12+00:00

Good enough, but you still look soft, try do some more rough activities to give off some warrior vibes.

Get some scars, up your game and practise on tonality, double down on your vernacular and speak up.

p.s. tech industry is one of the few that you should rather avoid getting doxxed in

cglehosit · 2021-03-16T12:25:15+00:00

Jesus Christ this isn’t Grindr, no one here is going to fuck you dude. Quit talking about your “feelings” and start getting to work.

Mustbeaight · 2021-03-16T11:33:23+00:00

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Bnbipa · 2021-03-16T11:40:40+00:00

What is the ref of the jacket on the fourth photo?

senan97 · 2021-03-16T11:50:28+00:00

Yes it is feels like but it isn't. Evolutionarily perspective, men are not chosen because of genes. Pre historic days men are responsible for provide protection and food. That's not rare to see not good looking man and beautiful woman.

Efficient_Film_149 · 2021-03-16T10:47:04+00:00

6/10, who’s prob a 4-5/10, struggles to fuck gorgeous women. More at seven

RomanH101 · 2021-03-16T11:18:28+00:00

Personally you’re a good looking guy but the shirts you wear give off beta bucks vibes to some chicks. Trying switching it up a little with the pictures. White muscle fit t-shirt, nice gold watch, gold chain, black sunglasses and black fitted jeans and white trainers. Maybe get an arm sleeve tattoo (up to you).

Try to mix your wardrobe up so you also have a “bad boy” look. You’ll have more success.

Also ponder on this Plato quote from the Republic on what the ideal man should be: "He who is only an athlete is too crude, too vulgar, too much a savage. He who is a scholar only is too soft, to effeminate. The ideal citizen is the scholar athlete, the man of thought and the man of action."

izrd123 · 2021-03-16T11:40:31+00:00

Use only one picture, keeps the intrigue up Swipe right on everyone then filter the matches by looks Tinder is a numbers game

billybobjoecarl · 2021-03-16T13:03:11+00:00

What are your hobbies? Are you approaching irl? Are you successful?

You aren’t bad looking at all and I’m sure you know the correct things to do just by answering the three previous questions. Do it

Thelonelywindow · 2021-03-16T13:42:45+00:00

I think you should look who your market really is. Are you in the US? do chicks go for dudes like you? or dark skinned dudes? Do you rock it with asian ladies? Latinas? go where they are. Nothing stands out in your pics man, you might as well be invisible.

JohnPettimore · 2021-03-16T13:50:12+00:00

You're doing something wrong. I think it has to do with your physical condition.

I'm much older than you. I'm 6'2 and 240. And women are fucking everywhere. It's not even hard.

With your height, your face shouldn't matter. If you went to the gym and trained, you could be a fucking weapon. At which point, you could have whoever you wanted. Do that.

Throwaway2088_ · 2021-03-16T14:03:20+00:00

Dude post some shirtless pics or some shit goddamn

themostgianthorse · 2021-03-16T14:06:00+00:00

Frame frame frame

SpecialSpnk · 2021-03-16T14:24:31+00:00

Just like other people said you need to emphasize your assets. You need to be in group settings showing you towering over people. Especially a couple very attractive girls. You loom soft, get one of you doing a hobby or something rad.

For reference I had one of me hanging off a large rock face, shirtless, also had one of me track racing a motorcycle, then one of me wearing a rash guard in BJJ to show off my figure. I’m not even 6’ tall and have pulled what you are seeking

Fookin_Crispy · 2021-03-16T15:23:28+00:00

You need some edge to your pics brother. Try something that shows off physique, one with a bad boy look.

You don’t wanna be the guy she wants to marry, be the guy she wants to cheat with

women_deserve_love · 2021-03-16T15:30:53+00:00

“I feel like it’s all about looks. I can easily get 5s and 6s but 7s are tough and anything higher is no chance.”

And that’s as far as looks can get you alone. Everything else will make the 7s and 8s easy and the 9s a challenge.

Jcorb · 2021-03-16T15:57:38+00:00

Online dating is like 90% looks. Anyone saying otherwise is selling something.

That said, you've got everything you need. The top-left picture sucks, and I would kind of say the bottom-left too; now because they're bad pictures (in fact, the top-left looks perfect for something like LinkedIn), but they make you look "safe" or "normal".

That top-right pic? That shit is gold; you look cool, you're smiling, and also you look tall. Good shit. Bottom-right I'd say it "okay"; another good photo, but doesn't convey "fun" or "sex-appeal".

You've definitely got the looks to be successful online. I'd say, try to take more "wild-looking" pictures, or pictures where you're clearly having a great time, smiling/laughing/etc.

Just my two cents, my dude!

Well_hung_Yakuza · 2021-03-16T16:04:57+00:00

It is mostly about BODYFAT and then FRAME.

You are not bad looking. Try to use some photos doing fun things and in group settings.

WoodWizzy87 · 2021-03-16T18:45:04+00:00

Different strokes for different folks my dude. You're caring too much about her looks. Start treating a 8/10 the same as a 5/10 and you get the same result if youre even remotely confident. I go into random dates with no outlook and outcome independence. I basically f*** off the whole time

aegeaorgnqergerh · 2021-03-16T21:25:39+00:00

Not sure if it's been said, but it isn't ONLY about looks, but a big problem a lot of/most incels and people who go on about "red pill" have is they don't think looks are important, and you can "learn" your way past it with bullshit pseudo-science.

That isn't the way it works, you cannot over-ride 600 million years of evolutionary biology no matter how hard you try.

Good news is it's 2021 not 1643, so unless you're severely disfigured, you can fix whatever is unattractive about you. I mean, even if you are severely disfigured, the stuff they can do these days is amazing.

New_Guard · 2021-03-17T03:46:54+00:00

The expressions you hold on your face reflect that you're an innocent, nice guy with a gentle soul. See about changing that.

tetrachromancy · 2021-03-19T05:25:11+00:00

You’re too boring. Find a niche and work it for online dating.

Pink_Hanna · 2021-03-16T11:25:38+00:00

It sounds like all you are looking for in a potential partner is looks

Correct me if I am wrong

Title	It just feel like it's all about looks?
Author	GameDevUX
Upvotes	28
Comments	186
Date	March 16, 2021 10:25 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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Women do not care about looks, they only love sexier looking men because they think other women love them and it generates pre selection, hypergamy, power/dread all together