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[–][deleted] 160 points161 points162 points 3 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, you aren’t the only guy she’s seeing.
Sorry bro.
[+]Dzekomeout70 points 3 years ago [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link
[–]fuzzy_brb 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t be sorry. I had the same thoughts but it’s good to hear it from someone else. Onwards and upwards
[–]omega05 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
I mean it doesn't mean cut off all contact altogether. Have you called her and had phone conversation? Have you asked her if she's down to see you again for another date next week?
[+]Dzekomeout19 points 3 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link
[–]hypolaristic 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No truthfully I haven’t. Her responses have been indicative of someone with very little to no interest and I don’t want to chase her.
[+]Dzekomeout8 points 3 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
[–]jackzander 40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I guess doesn’t hurt to try. I’m gonna let the conversation die, maybe give it a few days then I’ll try calling. Maybe i just have too much pride but there’s something that just bothers me about trying to rekindle things with someone who’s shown basically no interest.
[–]Necrosaro_123 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One of the main reasons why i avoid OLD (call it Tinder/Bumble), is that it makes women behave like this.
Just move to the next date. If they don' show interest, move on.
[–]Rogue1371 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed
[–]Lonely-Pikachu 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You can still ask her out once, she may be just terrible at texting
[+]Dzekomeout8 points 3 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
[–]JWPapi 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thing is, she was fine at texting BEFORE we went out.
[–]CometAzur42069 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then dont.
[–]Count_Giggles 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Could be a case of showing too much interest as well.
[–]James_Cruse 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
How do you guage this? You really don’t need to be texting girls back and forth between in-person dates.
And you should only be going on in-person dates with her once per week - maybe twice but that’s abit too much. You have work, your hobbies and other women to see.
This is a girl you just had a first date with right? Never see them more than once per week.
And only text them a few times a week for now - save all the getting to know them for in-person.
Why is everyone so doom and gloom?
[–]nestlewithoutdairy 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree here.
I'm not much of a conversationalist thru text. It's daunting and it takes a lot of valuable time away from your duties throughout the week.
Set a date. Go on the date. Maybe text early the day of to confirm you're still on.
Aside from that, save the banter for when you guys get together.
Plus, you end up wondering and trying to read into text too much. When really, texting is so far removed from real conversation. No eye contact, sarcasms, ya know the lil things that make conversation, well, conversation.
Good luck to you OP!
[–]James_Cruse 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree. I don’t do it because texting is daunting - there really is no need for it other than her re-assuring you because you aren’t confident and you’re needy - which is an instant killer of attraction.
[–]MediterraneanBastard 64 points65 points66 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
1.Some girls are just weird, they’ll show interest and then change their mind
She’s genuinely busy and you just need to give her some space.
When this stuff happens you need to either set up another date and if that doesn’t work out then move on and find someone that will put in effort.
[–]the_golden_b 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I reckon that if you’ve set up the 1st day then the woman should propose something for the 2nd one.
[–]James_Cruse -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
See below comment - literally no-one needs to text 1-2 times per day after the first date - EVER.
This girl is showing a normal healthy level of interest - it’s you guy that think she isn’t that are needy or unsure of yourselves.
[–]SolidPuzzleheaded984 56 points57 points58 points 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Low effort means low interest
[–]luroot 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Agreed 💯! After tonnsss of experience...with no exceptions...a woman's actual interest can be most accurately gauged by her text response time, frequency, and character counts. Period. Actual content can even be ignored. It's literally that simple.
I've even had times when women would slack on texting, yet get very sexual or plan a date. So I thought, hey, maybe this is a rare exception? Butttt no...inevitably, they would still ultimately flake in the end!
Basically, if a woman isn't excited to be with you...she's not interested enough to make the effort.
[–]khloebaboey 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
def not. i hate texting and will go a couple days without reaching out to the guys i’m interested in im still thinking about them all the time and 100% interested i just don’t feel the need to be in constant contact.
also when you’re dating multiple people at once it is way too much energy to text all of them all day i don’t care to do that at all. i like to use texting to set up a date or for check ins and that’s really it.
[–]luroot 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol, IOW you're not that into any of these multiple filler guys you're dating simultaneously...
Which is my point. If she's slacking on texting...she's not that into you. Of which one sign is...she's too busy dating a lot of other dudes at the same time. 🤣
I...rrrrest my case!
[–]James_Cruse -2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Texting once-twice per day after a first date does not = low interest.
If you think that’s “low interest”, you haven’t been with many women in western countries
[–]luroot 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm in the US. 1-2 is low...if the ball is in her court. And moreso, short, dry replies at that.
The (lack of) writing's on the wall...it's a wrap.
I’m in Australia and it’s normal. There is no difference in this area between us. I’ve dated Americans and it’s the same.
It’s not a wrap - you really lack confidence if you think that she’s not interested because she’s texting 1-2 times per day only. It’s so silly.
Set up another date to meet and don’t text her until the day of the meet to confirm and see what happens.
[–]luroot -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Not at all. I've experienced both ends of the spectrum.
Girls who are interested will serial text me multiple times in a row (up to 50) with novels about their daily minutae before I even reply once. They'll gravedig and still text me even after a month or more of no replies from my end. And ofc, they will try to set up dates.
Meanwhile, girls that want nothing more than attention will respond back with short, one-liners and often long delays. Just enough to string you along, but never open up emotionally. I mean, if she ever waits a day or more to reply, it's over baby... And needless to say, even if she asks for a date...she will find some excuse to back out. Guaranteed!
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[–]SolidPuzzleheaded984 21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Do you feel that there’s a way to repair it or should I just move on?
[–]Altec5499 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand where you’re thought process is coming from but you’re wrong. He barely knows this girl. Gauging interest by texts will drive you insane. There could be a handful of things going on with this girl. Stick to logistics early on with texting. Give her some damn space and ask her out again. If she doesn’t reply or flakes.. move on. You cannot listen to 70% of people on this app. Absolute dog shit advice
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Text her one more time if you really want to after a couple of weeks, if she responds well to it then nice if she doesn't then that's that
[–]Altec5499 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Texting should not be a gauge for interest. In person experiences should be. Get off your phone
[–][deleted] 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Move on. Women live in the moment and while there might’ve been some chemistry there wasn’t enough. Women have an enormous advantage in OLD and if you don’t make a significant, lasting impression on her then you’re just another guy.
[–]Blitted_Master 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OLD is online dating
[–]Striking-Panic3120 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Old ?
[–]NinetailsDestruction 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Old?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Online Line Dating
[–]zzz000999888 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Online dating … I surmise
[–]NinetailsDestruction 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope that doesn’t become a thing
[–]mjornir 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You ask to set the next time you see her and see how she responds. If she doesn’t meet up then you move on
[–]GLight3 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You move on.
[–]microhater 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Look if we all have to compete, then fking compete. I like using Spotify and creating song list with the one I’m into. You don’t have to text and if you’re into the same music you can create a connection that way. Now if her music sucks - this is a terrible idea 🤷♂️
[–]Striking-Panic3120 7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She’s lost interest, if she cared you wouldn’t be here
[–]The-Dude0411 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sometimes, presenting the fact that theyre behaving disinterested has gotten me really far.
"Hey, you've been super distant since we met up, I was curious what's up?" Usually, it'll at least initiate enough of an interaction that you can figure out if they're totally over you. I try to use that interaction to schedule the next date though, as I am better irl.
[–]zapadz 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ask her out again, maybe she just sucks at texting
[+]Dzekomeout3 points 3 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link
[–]zapadz 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She was fine before we went out, then after the date it all completely changed. She has her read notifications on, I can see she hasn’t even opened the message.
[–]janusz_z_rivii 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe she's playing hard to get now, stupid I know but I leave it to your judgment. I second asking her out again, if she's not responsive move on.
[–]AtDaLastMinute4 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Don't text at all. The only thing you should be using your phone for is to set up dates.
[–]DecentGas6671 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don’t
[–]motherseffinjones 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Low effort mean cut her off, that’s how I roll at least. Why would you chase someone who doesn’t want you lol
[–]warbloggled 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Until a relationship is solidified, texting should be used only as a means of setting up and confirming dates.
Otherwise you get what you got.
[–]Tutorzilla 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate when guys expect me to text them a lot. I don’t know what to say to them that wasn’t covered on the date. We don’t have many inside jokes yet. The more a guy pressures me to text, the less chance I’ll open his texts because it feels like I’m being smothered and I just want to ignore it. Just ask her on a second date and only text about logistics or a “thinking of you” message. She has a full life and up until now you weren’t in it. Give a girl a minute.
[–]Prestigious-Prune483 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There’s someone out there who will match your energy and ideals. Don’t waste time on the wrong person!
[–]rich_god 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
1-2 texts per day is generally too much. Obviously each person is different, but most girls I'm seeing is more like 1-2 texts a week, sometimes even less. Texts are for logistics and some cute "thinking about you" once in a while. But yeah, there is this girl I see, when we're together it's very passionate and intimate, but I usually have to wait a couple weeks to get an answer to any message. I don't mind, I like her the way she is and we have good communication.
Also a looooooot of women have "post first kiss hangover". Basically they doubt themselves, maybe it was too fast, maybe now they have to commit to something they don't want to, blablabla. Basically they have emotions about what happened and don't know how to proceed so they close themselves off. My recommendation, if you really care about her, is to stay centered, confident, keep the connexion, stay authentic and remind her that there is no pressure on her and no expectation. Keep a positive vibe, be abundant, be available without being pushy.
Don't be afraid to talk about it, even a "I feel like you're a bit more distant since we saw each other, is there anything on your mind or that you're scared to share with me ?" can completely change the dynamic.
[–]daydreamsofcalm 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd agree with this.
1-2 texts a day after one date would be waaaay too much for me. I'd expect one text the day after the date so I wouldn't second guess the kissing then maybe 1 or 2 more through the rest of the week to set up/confirm a second date. No friggin "Good morning" texts, no massive paragraphs either. Too much, too soon.
Any more than that would turn my train of thought into a juggernaut and not in a good way. Like "Why is he so needy? Maybe he really likes me, aww..no wait...fuck....that's too soon, I don't want to hurt his feelings. No, I bet he thinks I'll sleep with him next time after that kiss. I shouldn't have done that, god I'm such a tramp. Fuck, I wish he'd stop texting me, does he have no-one else to talk to? I'm cringing so bad I can't even open the message. Ffs, I'm at work, gimme a break!" and so on and so forth until you're completely ghosted.
[–]James_Cruse 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I posted about that above - my exact thoughts. Texting twice per day after the first date or even first few dates is far TOO much texting for me.
I’ve been with so many girls and got into great relationships and texting them a handful of times in a week is never an issue for any if them, especially after the first few dates.
If you NEED to text girls more than twice per day it is needy - it’s because you as a man have low self-esteem and need the re-assurance that she likes you, which is a surefire way for her losing interest.
I have no idea why all these people are bent out of shape about it.
[–]James_Cruse 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why do you need more than 1-2 texts per day? That’s not low effort - that’s alot more than I give people.
Just text back about actual meeting/dates until you get to know her better.
You don’t need any texts per day if you text a few times and it’s about meeting and she’s confirmed she’ll meet you.
Then no need to text - just meet in person.
[–]DonLebanon91 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Give even less effort. If they push you away, then pull away.
[–]TheReverendAlan 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Move on ☮️♥️🎸
[–]Successful-Try7035 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The best advice is you should deal with girls that give you highest level of interest. You could salvage it but she will eventually move on to the next thing that catches her eye. Move on
[–]Complicated_Business 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Three text rule. After three texts, you're done and it's on them to follow up. Just stick to that and you'll be fine.
[–]MentalCelOmega 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kick them out of your life. That is how you deal with low effort individuals.
[–]Heyyoktp 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go out with someone else. Stay strong, king.
[–]froze_gold 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go no contact for a week and then ping her for a date
[–]Thinker_97 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As much as it sucks to hear.. that person will be low effort in every other aspect as well. I know it’s hard to discern playing hard to get vs low effort, but the reality is, if a person wants you, they will make it clear.
Be a gentleman, and politely walk away. You deserve someone who reciprocates your energy.
[–]gangweedsavedme 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Be lower effort
[–]thewisefrog416 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“How do you deal with a low effort person?”
You don’t.
[–]Current_Profit 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Move on
[–]OkNefariousness9758 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't chase her, replace her. Fall back until she crawls back.
Just move on and get back on tinder. There's going to be a lot of women like that, just treat it like gambling. you'll win some, and you'll lose some
[–]fazzavich 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
She's building a roster. You're on the bench. Cut contact and walk away immediately.
[–]speaking_moistly 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
people do this?
[–]fazzavich 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Are u kidding me?
[–]speaking_moistly 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no, not at all
[–]delta-whisky 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Rule of thumb: if you’re confused, she’s not interested
[–]Pickledsundae 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I love using this text as one last hurrah:
"Lemme know when you're free so I can make sure I'm busy"
[–]speaking_moistly -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
that’s immature
[–]Dialgax2 points 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I ignore them when they are like that then they usually come back
[–]yennybear888 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If your social media game is good, just keep doing your thing. Assuming you do cool stuff (with or without women), many of them will come back later on.
I just had a girl DM me today asking if I wanted to go on a trip with her and I haven't seen her in 3 years.
[–]userisauser 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Rule #1 Always make them invest.
[–]speaking_moistly 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
you can’t make a person do anything
[–]boom0956 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do you make a lady to invest to you?
[–]tropicsGold 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Have you given her anything to get excited about? Maybe bring up an exciting adventure at the beach, followed by dinner prepared by a famous chef. Women tend to gravitate towards fun and adventure.
[–]Nice_Calligrapher452 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well if you're texting her a bunch of times throughout the day after just making out once, it might be you coming off too strong. If you are, then maybe shes backed off cuz ur texting her a bunch. It also depends on what's being said in those texts, we don't know the full story. But if you're not doing that, then it seems like shes not interested.
[–]sub-hunter 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s how I get ons to be ons - I on come across as way to clingy so they lose interest - but I don’t care because I wasn’t really interested after we had sex but I don’t want to come across as a guy who only wanted sex
[–]Zenis 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you’ve asked her on a followup date and she hasn’t answered, that’s a no.
If you haven’t asked her on another date, that’s on you.
[–]Andress1 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you are barely getting responses it means she's not interested
[–]Rymasq 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don’t text her unless it’s to make plans
[–]dobbs1997 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
well you shouldn’t really be talking to her on the daily, just set up the next meet up , have you done that ?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My answer to these question is always if Chris brown is as the one who made out with her do you think she'd be dry with him? She's obviously someone who does this making out with r everyone , u ain't special in this situation and gotta just get over it
[–]Jasonhardon 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you like her lay her then let her chase you after. It’s that simple. If you don’t like her next her 🤷🏻♂️
[–]Sharp-Computer-2179 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
[–]ashwheee 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There’s not enough context her to fully know why she’s acting this way, imo. Have you tried asking her on another date?
[–]FaithInStrangers94 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1-2 messages per day is enough for me - how frequently do you want to message ?
[–]vivid_spite 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it depends how old she is, not everyone texts multiple times a day
[–]Mymomdidwhat 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She isn’t interested anymore. Move on
[–]tonyrelic 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I met a women while on vacation once. We started talking about on line dating. She told me she gets around 1-2 thousand Interested messages from guys a week lol. That’s why women want what they can’t have. It’s psychological
[–]inline6throwaway1 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Find someone who puts forth more effort. Other people here said she's probably talking to other dudes. Start talking to other women
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