Has Tinder gotten worse for actually getting dates?

evan1932 · 2018-11-19T03:24:15+00:00

Yeah I started using it again recently and it's terrible. I see the same girls everyday, the majority share their IG, Venmo/Cashapp, and Snapchat. I get notifications for matches, but I can't view them, even though it says I have matches. Basically most of the app is pushing you towards using tinder gold. I remember the days when you had unlimited swipes for free and people actually matched/messaged you back. Seems like dating apps are fucked nowadays, especially since most of them are owned by the same parent company (match.com)

IdiidDuItt · 2018-11-19T03:51:16+00:00

Fun fact : Match Group owns and controls most of the popular dating apps. Match Group's been known to scam people and make fake profiles. Think about Ashleymadison website with its fake profiles.

VinDenim · 2018-11-19T02:24:16+00:00

I don’t know if it’s the algorithm or what, but last year I fucked 20+ girls from tinder and maybe 2 this year? I don’t even remember. Nothing since April. For me it has gotten way way worse.

ThrowAccount654 · 2018-11-19T02:55:09+00:00

Yep... Noticed a dramatic dramatic increase in flakes and girls that just stop responding or ghost when you bring up meeting up...

NoDoughThough · 2018-11-19T05:14:52+00:00

I have night game and score decently well. Downloaded tinder 9 months ago and have not had a single date from it. All flunks and flakes. Guys brag about meeting up with girls from it but I’m actually beginning to think most of them are lying...

fourthwallmotionless · 2018-11-19T03:40:52+00:00

It turned into shit. Pretty much all ththe decent apps like OKC have become greedy and become a pay per play business model which sucks coz it just tips off the balance into the dating market more into the females. I'm still awaiting that new free app if ever there's any that might be reliable than tinder or okc since I hate going out the house these days except school and some other essential errands.

lostkarma · 2018-11-19T02:42:07+00:00

They changed algorithms. It’s

Guys that pay money to tinder gets dates. Guys that don’t pay tinder do not get dates.

neoda1 · 2018-11-19T03:01:54+00:00

dude i thought this was just me... i knew it couldn't be... i just got back on it and im like how was it easier for me to get dates 3 years ago and now its none. ty for this

iDidntReadOP · 2018-11-19T02:42:25+00:00

Use hinge. Girls on there are serious about meeting. I've only fucked hinge girls this year. Nothing from tinder or bumble.

Serg885 · 2018-11-19T07:37:59+00:00

Tinder has become horrible.

I've been using it on and off for five years. I had a couple of one night stands, some affairs and several long term relationships.

I have good photos and I test them online (paid service). The tests say I score somewhere at the top 3-5%. I tell you this so that you have some reference.

The first two years when Tinder was free, I got lots of matches, dates were easy to get.

Year three or four I used Tinder plus, and also gold. Superlikes and boosts had a noticeable effect. I sti got less matches than with old Tinder.

Current year, I use Tinder gold (€150/year). Almost no matches, superlikes are useless (I wonder if girls see that they are superliked or if this is fraud?), I almost never get matches in advance (you can see it with Tinder gold), boost is an absolute waste of money and time. It's literally WTF. I also get "picks of the day" that never match back, no matter if liked or superliked.

I have about 500+ matches, but in 2018 I almost got no matches at all.

In a nutshell Tinder has become a massive waste of time and money. No matches, low response rate, boring conversations.

I started gaming girls in real life more again and will delete the app as soon as my subscription runs out.

tickr · 2018-11-19T04:23:24+00:00

How old are you? I was relatively young when I started but now the girls my age aren't really on tinder anymore. I've had very little luck with women my age the last couple years here

Freevoulous · 2018-11-19T08:43:00+00:00

there is most likely some fancy math behind it, but all dating apps follow the same curve. Start with not enough users to matter, get into gear, become popular, then becomes less and less effective.

Basically the first 70% of the time a dating app exists, it mostly caters to people who actually want to date/hook up. 71% and onward, it gets into a rapid descent and caters more to attention seekers, while the competition and gender imbalance increases.

The-Cascadian · 2018-11-19T03:46:15+00:00

I've heard of people actually using the fact that girls include their IG usernames in their bio to their advantage and to DM them there and get dates with them that way. I personally have never tried it since I can't imagine girls like getting unsolicited messages, but maybe I'm wrong. Anyways, I have heard of guys having success so it's probably possible

bitchsaidwhaaat · 2018-11-19T07:06:41+00:00

I matched this model looking girl a few mo ths ago. She never replied and today she literally said “nice pictures we should shoot” (i have my photography ig linked to tinder.

I said how about a date/shoot? She says no because she has a boyfriend... so she matched with me just because i was a photographer and she wanted a shoot... so yeah for me there are 3 out of evry 5 are phantom accounts just there to make u follow them elsewhere... they all have “not here much follow me on ig” on their bio

2018-11-19T06:46:31+00:00

I used to get a date per month at least. Now I struggle with 1 per quarter. Hey I'm fine with a plain 5, but even they seem rare to ever talk to me.

Girls have figured they can all aim for 9's and eventually get one for a night.

renfsu · 2018-11-19T03:49:00+00:00

Yeah I've wondered what happened. Seems like the women have higher standards and are there to get more followers. Looks like it's going to shit, that's good though since it'll encourage me to cold approach more.

TheGoblin-King · 2018-11-19T06:18:51+00:00

Ive been in tinder for about a month now, had about 25 matches (I live in a low population area) and have met none of them. Tinder is now used by women as an ego boost and it's incredibly rare to find and match with those who actually wish to date. Most are looking for compliments and that's it.

Now if you're a very attractive guy in a high population city it's a different story but unfortunately must of us don't have that luxury. If you want to be successful on Tinder you have to put a shit ton of work into it. That means having good attractive photos of yourself and a good bio (if all you got are selfies and mirror pics consider yourself disqualified immediately). You also have to know how to talk and maintain interest over text messaging, which is incredibly hard to do as girls get around 10 matches for every 100 swipes on average (compare this to the average guy's match rate of .02%). This means women are frequently overwhelmed with matches and if they spot someone more pleasing than you they WILL ghost you and never talk to you again.

All in all Tinder is a good time waster and that's it. If you live in a large city success is more common however of you live in a city with a relatively small population you're still probably fucked. I've hated the app even before I downloaded it but broke because of loneliness. Do I wish I had never downloaded it? Absolutely. It's damaged my self-worth and hampered my mood and I've been trying to take a break. But that's all in the past now. Just try not to take it too seriously and remember meeting people in real life is always going to be more fulfilling and easy.

Edit: .2% not .02% lol

wickedsweeett · 2018-11-19T07:46:50+00:00

Tinder is trash. 2 out of 3 profiles are bots. And the girls that are on their are mentally inept or just fucked up in some other way... not the type you want to go for. Even PoF is better than tinder now

ktorr1546 · 2018-11-19T07:11:16+00:00

Yep, both Tinder and Bumble used to be great for me. Now, I get nothing on there. I have been using Hinge now and have regularly been going out with cuties. I would recommend trying it, but you have to pay $7 per month to get unlimited likes. You will hardly get anything if you don't have the unlimited likes.

DarkArtsPUA11 · 2018-11-19T08:38:13+00:00

tinder is complete shit lol. i've used it for months/years and have got nothing from it. i've fucked 9 new this year, don't need that shit to get laid

rlindem · 2018-11-19T14:36:58+00:00

I think its moving to hinge

Pritzker · 2018-11-19T04:07:22+00:00

I've noticed that there are A LOT more ugly, below-average, straight up fat feminist types in my deck now. I remember when Tinder used to be set up in a way where I could almost bet my life that the girls/profiles were fake because of how consistently good looking they were... now it's gone the complete opposite. I'm left-swiping a lot now. Especially when I do micro-radius sessions.

ScHoolboy_Stu · 2018-11-19T22:07:22+00:00

Matches-wise, I'm doing much better than I used to (probably because my pictures are better). I get about 25 likes per day atm.

But from the ones I match with, half dont reply to the opener, a lot just have no chat/banter, then some are flakey or get scared off by the phone number/date suggestion. This is probably partly because of my bio though

I feel like its probably harder to secure real dates than it was when i was getting way less likes. I can still pretty easily get a few per week though, so still worth using

EnvironmentalTwister · 2018-11-20T13:57:20+00:00

Girls that don't link their Instagram as their only part of their bio are likelier to respond with you/go out on a date in my experience. I auto swipe left on women that only have their IG and nothing else unless they've already swiped right on me

GainzdalfTheWhey · 2018-11-20T16:17:51+00:00

I used to date 2 chicks every week in 2017-16. I feel like it's two things, one is the decrease in matches due to changes in the algorithm. I managed to get about 5k matches in 1.5 years until half of 2017. Then after that I deleted my account and later only managed to get around 800. Another is there was a point that I also have someone like you do, so I was very selective of my matches. Say every 10 though, the bottom 2 I discard because they had unrealistic pictures, the top 2 always flake or stop replying, so I'm left with six (in the 6-7 range) that I chat for a while, even go on 1-2 dates but then realize they aren't worth the time and relationship commitment, so I soft next them all. It hasn't exactly be worthy of my time as well.

flightlessbird96 · 2018-11-19T07:12:29+00:00

As a guy looking to get into the dating scene again, I was leaning toward Tinder but now I hesitate, especially since I'd be looking for something serious.

Might need to look into some alternatives.

Garthanthoclops · 2018-11-19T13:25:18+00:00

Nope. I see this same question all the time, so here I go again on my soapbox...

I actually think it’s better than it used to be. Back when it was immensely popular everyone thought of it as the hookup app. There was a degree of truth to that, but it was never really an app used to find hookups. There would be people on there looking for hookup, but mostly it was just an avenue to meet people and potentially go on dates.

What has changed since then is tinder now isn’t weighed down by as many people who just want to hookup. I’ve found most of the girls I match with and talk to are into going on a date. Sure there are still guys posting half naked pictures hoping some girl will finally take their virginity, and girls who just get on tinder when they are drunk but have no intentions of even talking to you. However, just think about these as weeds in your yard that you have to remove.

I’ve had a lot of success on tinder. I’ve now seriously dated 3 girls that I met from tinder (3 months, 5 months, 4 months). I’ve been on a bunch of dates outside of the 3 I dated seriously. Right now I have 3 girls from tinder that I have dates planned/expected with. One I already went on a date with and have another planned next week, one on Friday, and another that we’ve discussed going out but haven’t set up a time yet. To top this, I don’t even use tinder hardcore. I maybe actually swipe twice a week for a total of 5-10 minutes.

I think the thing with tinder is the “hey what’s up” and general types of introductions don’t really work unless you are just extremely attractive. Basically, you need something to set you apart.you need good photo selection for your profile and strong bio just to get a like, and then moreso you need a good opener to get a response.

I have a few close female friends and they showed me their tinder inbox. Pretty much every guy they swipe right on has swiped right on them, and most of them message something like “hey” or “what’s up.” So they have a giant inbox full of a LOT of the same message. So you need to stand out.

TLDR; tinder isn’t dead, you just need to better understand how to utilize it

injesterstrust · 2018-11-19T16:43:20+00:00

I'm close to lining up my firts EVER tinder date (or any date for that matter) and she's hot! lol. Probably a flake, though. My first match in about 3 months of using up all my swipes each day! I feel like I only ever get a match if I 'superlike' someone.

https://imgur.com/a/ux7tcgK

xx-Rain_Maker-xx · 2018-11-19T09:10:48+00:00

Hey! I was wondering the same. Tinder used to be a great place to meet girls, now I can barely get matches.

plaze6288 · 2018-11-19T15:23:09+00:00

Imo its the worst dating app these days. I get the least quality and number of matches

levelUpLA · 2018-11-20T00:20:54+00:00

@ pua_help I think it really depends on the city you are at. Here in Los Angeles it's all girls just looking to get followers and validation but when I was in a smaller city I went on 3 dates in 3 days so idk

SmoothPrimal · 2018-11-20T04:42:28+00:00

The majority if you need to see if you actually didnt get older and uglier.

2020jimbo · 2019-01-03T19:18:00+00:00

100% agree things have got worse on tinder .

Waaay harder than it used to be - hardly any matches compared to one year ago when I was at least couple of matches a day.

Now lucky to get a match every couple of days !

I guess pay for it or try something else are the only solutions I can think of 🤔

splendidEdge · 2018-11-19T10:20:38+00:00

Question: Is there a good routine script for Tinder? Like what are good openers on Tinder? I know openers are stupid and it depends on who that girl is. Today I matched with a girl that said she likes Pokemon in her profile. I've opened with a Ash from Pokemon GIF and asked her what Pokemon describes her the best. Anyways that is a different story.

I would love to read a successful Tinder chat and just try to exactly copy it and see the outcome. I still think a lot of PUA stuff is VERY American and will fail in other cultures aka Europe but I would just like to give it a try to see the outcome.

Title	Has Tinder gotten worse for actually getting dates?
Author	pua_help
Upvotes	214
Comments	143
Date	November 19, 2018 12:47 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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