Every single day its "how do I dm this girl on Instagram" "what's a good tinder opener for this girl I just matched with" "how do I make my best friend of past 10 years like me." Every guy that asks these questions is asking in the wrong place. Seduction (this sub) isn't about getting one girl to like you. it is about becoming more attractive to women in general and learning the steps to form a relationship. There are no magic words or secrets. There isn't one thing you can do, that works 10 times out of 10, that will make everyone like you.

To me, the point of game and approaching is more about finding women you already have a slight bit of interest in you and turning it into something more. In my opinion, it's not about persuading someone to like you. Until you improve yourself, stop caring about the outcome with women and stop obsessing over women, you won't make it very far. Your mindset is most important when it comes to game. To make sure this post isn't a rant and has some value I want to share the main things that helped me get started.

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  1. No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert A. Glover

This book changed my life. It made me learn self-love and self-awareness. It made me realize everything I had been doing wrong my entire life. It called me out on all my bullshit, excuses, and gave me the motivation to change.

2) Models: Attract Women Through Honesty by Mark Manson

This book gave me the basic foundation for the mindset needed to pursue women. It's talked about learning how to not be needy, what do about rejection, and how important your lifestyle is.

3) Todd Valentine

I do not recommend a single course from him (because they all are the same, he a lot of the same information on his youtube account for free). Todd has mastered the theory behind approach/sleeping with women and he's brilliant when it comes to the psychology behind it. I got a better understanding of women from him.

4) Mike Mehlman

Finding him was important to me. it helped me understand rejection and realize how I shouldn't let it affect me. He made me look at rejection from a different perspective.

It took over a year to apply the things that I read and see the results of the changes I made. I started working out and went from 134 pounds to 161 pounds. I completely changed my style and career. My confidence grew and my social skills improved. As a result, I've made out with more girls than I ever have, and hooking up with girls has never been easier, but the improvement in my life overall has been the best thing that came out of it.

All the advice in this sub means nothing if you're too scared to take a risk. If you aren't willing to look at yourself and become better for you then you will stay where you are in life. Don't ask "what do I say to this girl?" try to talk to her. Learn from your failures and let rejection motivate you.

edit: grammatical errors (I know there are still some)