#WhoWillYouHelp Canadian campaign that villianizes ALL men.

Grubnar · 2015-03-07T15:53:14+00:00

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Gee, I wonder why.

manplanstan · 2015-03-07T15:30:38+00:00

Apparently, it's the job of our government to educate the public that all victims are women, and all violators are men. What a disgusting campaign.

passionPunch · 2015-03-07T16:00:45+00:00

Fuck this ad. I've had my ass slapped so many times as a 17 year old from older women working my fast food jobs. Now people making daily remarks every time I wear shorts at work.

z3german · 2015-03-07T15:38:51+00:00

Annoying day to be in canada today. Just woke up and see this garbage, along with the cbsa and them fighting to look through our phones at the boarder. Why the hell are we so behind the times

MonkeyCB · 2015-03-07T16:27:57+00:00

Women are apparently completely oblivious to their surroundings and incapable of doing anything, so they need a man to step in. Like couldn't that one chick have gone to HR herself?

What happened to the fish and the bicycle bullshit? Women don't need no man, and that's how it's going to be. Take care of yourselves.

Samurai007_ · 2015-03-07T17:00:12+00:00

To counter the guy spiking the drink in that ad, I remind everyone of this episode of WWYD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-57-i1S95Kk

When the man did it to a woman, everyone spoke up to protect her. When a woman does it to a man, most people do nothing.

MeEvilBob · 2015-03-07T16:15:17+00:00

Whenever I see any of these campaigns, I look at who is funding it. Since it's blatantly funded by the government, I wanna find out who the lobbyists are and the law makers using tax-payers money to support these lobbyists' agenda. Follow the money, it will lead you to the truth.

UsernameBinTaken · 2015-03-07T15:44:26+00:00

I feel like the best response to this is a male driven #ImNOTaRapist campaign.

One person's rights shouldn't come at the cost of another.

q_-_p · 2015-03-07T16:43:53+00:00

Sue for the tax dollars, the salaries of the government people involved, not just their time on this, but their ENTIRE paid salary to date, sue for the cost of their social welfare until they get a job.

What's MOST disgusting about this?

That a woman not being able to go to HR FOR SOMETHING SHE IS WITNESSING AND HERSELF THE ONE MOST ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON is juxtaposed against someone secretly drugging a girl's drink. As if they are both equally unaware and unable to help themselves at that point.

They even cheat with the language "thank's for telling HR / thanks for telling the barman", as if SHE ALREADY KNEW, but needed you to intercede.

It's disgusting. They're trying to say women cannot report sexual harassment at work now. What the fuck.

theDarkAngle · 2015-03-07T15:58:13+00:00

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secondundoxablealt · 2015-03-07T16:58:49+00:00

Everyone, click "other discussions". Everyone agrees with us. We're making progress.

zyk0s · 2015-03-07T15:44:22+00:00

If you do nothing, you're helping him but if you do something, you're helping her

Well, since the government is already disproportionately helping her, I guess I'll go ahead and help him then.

librtee_com · 2015-03-07T21:23:51+00:00

In real life, when drink spiking occurs, people freak out when the woman is the victim and remain silent when a man is the victim. If any 'public awareness' needs to be raised, it's for this sort of thing happening against men. But these scumbags are not interested in the protecting the public good, but simply maintaining the victim narrative that keeps their useless degrees economically lucrative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qlmzh03oYw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-57-i1S95Kk

privilegechecked85 · 2015-03-07T18:17:15+00:00

YouTube comments are off. So just send your comment here.

https://correspondence.premier.gov.on.ca/en/feedback/default.aspx

What a disgrace that my own province is spouting this drivel.

darkshine05 · 2015-03-07T18:12:03+00:00

I don't understand. Women are completely helpless falling victim to men every day?

goatsandbros · 2015-03-07T14:59:24+00:00

And vandalizes proper grammar.

Chef_Lebowski · 2015-03-07T16:35:32+00:00

Oh this is in Canada? I'm not surprised. This country glorifies feminism, even the extreme radical ones and always suppresses the male opinion. Even if it's rational and more logical. Why is there no identical ad like this, but for women? Wouldn't wanna mess with the double standard I guess.

huoyuanjiaa · 2015-03-07T17:50:23+00:00

Jesus that's bad and there's a ton of other media just like it. It's pervasive and shapes our culture.

The27thS · 2015-03-07T18:49:04+00:00

Aside from the fact that all the villains are men isn't this generally a good thing to encourage people to get more involved when they see victimization? A third party who knows neither perpetrator nor the victim is a good way to avoid one persons word against another. This video should have been expanded to include a wider variety of perpetrators and victims.

2015-03-07T22:57:04+00:00

Don't drink to the point where you can't protect yourself at a public place.
Go to human resources yourself.
Don't send naked pictures of yourself to anyone at all, ever. Unless you're okay with the entire universe seeing them.
This doesn't happen that much at all. Why bother to drug a drink? Just buy more drinks for them and they will willingly put themselves into the same position that number 1 was in. Which is why you don't drink in excess.

There, you just protected yourself and no longer have to rely on the universe to save you from your own choices.

Also, this is stupid as hell. They should show women in a gay bar sexually harassing gay men. We're used like play toys for drunk women, especially when there are bachelorette parties. Women sexually harass/assault men too.

"Who will you help?" Clearly not yourself. The second one was especially ridiculous in this regard. HR is there for YOU to use. No one else has to go there for YOU.

theDarkAngle · 2015-03-07T18:36:01+00:00

Is it just me or did that video just lump sexting in with date-rape?

Hanshen · 2015-03-07T18:06:20+00:00

Let's be fair. Those are all situations where you should probably say something. What they have conveniently omitted is any example of women abusing men.

MRMRising · 2015-03-07T19:17:56+00:00

Ladies, by demonizing me you have made me MGTOW, so if I do see something like this, I can guarantee you I will say/do nothing. Your safety and feelings mean nothing to me, I am not responsible for you. Now kindly go fuck off.

Step_Your_Gains_Up · 2015-03-07T20:57:24+00:00

I am a man and the second one happens to me daily at work by all my female colleagues. I lift and have fairly large muscles, that show through my clothing. This happens all the fucking time! Women aren't the only ones!

Vianns · 2015-03-07T22:28:59+00:00

Here in Paris, are ads in the Métro telling : "Donne du pouvoir aux femmes si t'es un homme" (Give power to women, if you are a man). I really don't understand the purpose..

PassifloraCaerulea · 2015-03-07T22:29:14+00:00

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JayBopara · 2015-03-08T01:52:55+00:00

Another government campaign to stereotype all men as evil perpetrators and women as innocent victims. Any wonder why nobody gives a shit about men? Traditionalism, conservatism and feminism. Same message - men are evil, women are good.

konoplya · 2015-03-08T02:53:34+00:00

those sad pricks blocked ratings and comments. whats the matter, can't handle criticism of your prejudice?

2015-03-08T06:03:22+00:00

I love the concept. I really do. If they'd done four scenarios with a man-woman, woman-man, woman-woman, and man-man one and the tagline replaced the him/her with them, it'd have been absolutely incredible.

deepsoulfunk · 2015-03-08T00:55:28+00:00

I think the 'ALL' part of the thread title is a bit hyperbolic

cuntsgonecrazy · 2015-03-07T22:41:02+00:00

Tell HR yourself you silly twat.

BillieMadison · 2015-03-07T23:21:26+00:00

When I first heard about this I was really disappointed that they didn't include more variety in the situations in terms of women being perpetrators/ men being victims. I don't think the concept is total shit, but it really is just one side of the story; and it's a side of the story that's most popular to tell. I hope that someone rebuttals with a similar video, with opposite gender roles.

Looking past that for just a second, the concept that a bystander is helping the perpetrator is a very powerful statement that should be explored further. So while I commend them for this initiative, I am truly and deeply disappointed in the approach that demonizes men.

gwolf100 · 2015-03-07T23:52:44+00:00

Brilliant I think they managed to send some hate towards men of all races and ages more or less. Well done! /s

Kuramo · 2015-03-08T05:30:46+00:00

Well, the scene in the office was the only one I consider is an acceptable act. The bald guy behind the woman is only massaging her. What is the problem there? Are they suggesting that a knock on the head of a woman is better?

2015-03-08T07:40:52+00:00

cringed so hard when the text came up on the screen. basically "him vs. her, who do you care more about?"

and really, all this dramatization of date rape drugs is getting ridiculous. there have been less than 10 cases of people spiking women's drinks with powder/pills to rape them. it's EXTREMELY rare. studies show almost every case where a woman has been raped at a party or after drinking at a bar, it's due to excessive alcohol consumption. THE most common date rape drug, by orders of magnitude, is ALCOHOL. it's just ridiculous to see how many women out there think that if they leave their drinks unattended, that someone is gonna spike it with rufilin. rufilin is hardly even on the market anymore lol.

really it's just fictional media exaggerating this stuff. there aren't any statistics on it because it happens so rarely that they don't even bother counting. most police departments have never had a case of date rape drugging. dead serious. it's just something that is dramatized in movies and TV shows ad nauseam. it's a very extreme thing to portray so it gets good ratings i suppose, but it's not realistic. and even then it's sort of ridiculous for this PSA to exist in the first place, because 93% of female rapes involve a woman getting raped by someone she knows. of that 7% leftovers, i seriously doubt very many happen at bars or at parties.

with respect to sexual harassment or revenge porn, meh. revenge porn is a fucked up thing to do but it's not illegal and it can't be made illegal without repressing other forms of free speech as collateral damage. it's immoral but it's not gonna stop because of a white knight. sexual harassment is a problem but, likewise, it's not going to stop. people who think they can engineer society to stop doing things that have been going on, in every culture, for tens of thousands of years are just stupid. you might decrease the frequency with which people sexually harass others, by making them terrified of the consequences, but you'll pick up a lot of innocent people in that inquisition, and everybody else will self-censor out of the same fear. meanwhile, men get harassed all the time and nothing is done about it.

goodboy · 2015-03-07T17:21:22+00:00

Fuck'em. I'm going to help myself, mind my own business, shame only the assholes that get involved in other people's business. Reporting on one's friends and neighbors is exactly the type of campaign Marxist bastards promote. What's next, re-education camps with public confession and criticism sessions? Snitches deserve stitches.

TheHaystacker · 2015-03-07T20:33:35+00:00

It is important to note that the ad does not definitively project a role on the observer: it very clearly allows for the observer to choose between being supportive of those in need, or complicit in their victimisation. That is different from villainising only men, which it does, since all the villains it portrays are men. That is flawed, yet nonetheless a weaker flaw than the villainisation of all men.

If we strip away gender from the ad, there is a positive message: if you see a person causing or intending harm to others, you have a choice whether to be complicit, or to intervene. Responsible and active participation in the well-being of others is a very good thing to promote, and that is not negated by any flaws it simultaneously possesses. Even in the presence of gender, it still conveys a postive message, just an incomplete message from which we may also infer negative messages.

Perhaps a constructive response to the creators would be: "You have a good core message that people should stand up for others and speak out against harmful action. Now, please improve on that by recognising the diversity of people who can be victims and perpetrators."

TracyMorganFreeman · 2015-03-08T05:05:02+00:00

Thanks for treating women like defenseless children. /s

2015-03-07T22:10:25+00:00

Have a look at how it's being discussed over at /r/TwoXChromosomes. (Non-participatory link - please respect!)

It's very, very cool to see that discussion happening.

harryballsagna · 2015-03-08T01:06:43+00:00

Flag it as "hateful and abusive".

Stephen1985 · 2015-03-07T17:06:27+00:00

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ManGoingHisOwnWay · 2015-03-07T16:06:08+00:00

It's time to starve governments from funding these projects. They clearly have too much money at hand if they choose to spend it for such biased insanities. Stop working, stop paying taxes that are used to demonize you. It's time to become a leech to this system.

2015-03-08T01:00:53+00:00

I see what they're getting at, but I don't like the delivery. Because not all men are rapists. If some guy was all up in a girls business at a party, and she didn't want it, or she wasn't awake/too drunk to be awake..I'd step in. This commercial could have went from Not shitty to good if they showed people (of both genders, because TiA would shit a kitten if women didn't step up) stepping in and stopping it. Not all men are rapists, and I don't like that all men are starting to be portrayed as rapists. Never mind that a lot of your "Average" rapist are Mentally Challenged or anything (according to a prison documentary I watched on either Discovery or Nat Geo. I can't find sources, so take that last comment with a grain of salt)

houseaddict · 2015-03-08T12:30:51+00:00

Funny thing is I've had a female boss rub my shoulders like that at work and even though she was young and attractive I still felt uncomfortable.contact hr over it though? Are you mental?

PurePsykosis · 2015-03-08T12:44:00+00:00

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mindscrambler26 · 2015-03-07T20:18:10+00:00

This teaches me that we should execute all men everywhere

Windex007 · 2015-03-07T19:22:47+00:00

Seeing as I don't do any of those things, I'm not really sure why I should feel like this villianizes me?

SimCity8000 · 2015-03-07T23:40:23+00:00

Who even looks at an ad campaign focused on advancing a specific cause and says it's a bad campaign because it makes their demographic look bad? Selfish.

It'd be like me, as a white person, looking at an anti-racism ad and complaining that it makes all white people look like racists.

Whoever designed this campaign chose to advocate against male abuse against women. There is no implication that men are the only abusers or that they are never victims.

Maybe men do need advocacy campaigns to teach society that boys can be abused too. But the people fiscally benefiting from the MRA movement clearly aren't investing money in campaigns like that for some reason.

yoduh4077 · 2015-03-07T15:58:14+00:00

So uh... how does this villainize all men?

Edit: Downvoted in one of my favorite subs for asking a legitimate question. Well, damn.

Title	#WhoWillYouHelp Canadian campaign that villianizes ALL men.
Author	UsernameBinTaken
Upvotes	595
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Date	March 7, 2015 2:15 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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