Club Bitches

NickTDS · 2012-04-30T19:33:08+00:00

While I applaud your don't give a fuck attitude, I would have probably read and handled that situation differently.

Something I learned over the years is that women reciprocate behavior. If you're being kind of an asshole to them, they protect themselves and do the same back. If you keep battling her, it's hard for her to drop her defenses and admit she's in the wrong.

You walked over and asked if they wanted drinks while looking like a baller. Of course they're going to say yes. Then you bust on that girl and maybe she feels stupid / insecure. She thinks you're being a jerk, so she retaliates.

Then when you come back at her, her friend has to jump in to defend. You keep escalating the battle and she keeps fighting back as she sees no other option. And so on and so on to the point where you tell her she had no value and you were ideally using her.

Most pickup advice says to keep deflecting which often leads nowhere. Neither party gives and you end up thinking they're "bitches" for it. I've found it works better to be the bigger person and break the tension.

For example:

"Hey, sorry if I sounded like an asshole, that wasn't my intentions at all." or "I think we got off on the wrong foot." followed by "Let's start over -- I'm Nick."
Look at her friend and sincerely (not jokingly) say, "Wow...your friend is really mean." or even directly to her. No girl wants to genuinely be a mean human being. You don't know how many times a girl will instantly change her attitude and start qualifying herself to prove she's nice.
If it's really bad and she's flipping out, walk away. "I came over here because I thought you looked like a chill girl -- I guess I was wrong. Have a good night and no hard feelings." She then feels like the jerk and I've had many girls stop me or come over later and apologize for their actions.

My point is not everything is black and white. Just because a girl acts bitchy, doesn't mean necessarily mean she's a "bitch". Do you know how many guys grope, cat call, or creep on attractive girls during a given night? They wear that shield for a reason.

Everyone can be an asshole on a bad day or in certain situations.

baconpiex · 2012-04-30T23:42:36+00:00

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phenomite1 · 2012-04-30T22:59:45+00:00

I'm confused...wouldn't a girl probably just say "Uhm....ok, so what?" after you said this:

"Oh, you see, I'm a feminist," I began. "I think women deserve equal rights and should be allowed to wear suits if they so choose!"

Especially the bitchy type. Am I wrong?

ohsnapitsrags · 2012-04-30T22:13:45+00:00

This sounds completely fake.

rad_thundercat · 2012-04-30T23:33:49+00:00

You are a very good writer, but you sound like a complete douche. The fact she stood around meant something but you had to keep playing your ridiculous game.

occupykony · 2012-05-01T03:54:10+00:00

"I'm an asshole, sure. But you liked it."

MFW

clothes_are_optional · 2012-04-30T20:57:30+00:00

i do agree with a lot of what you did, but the main thing that really sticks out to me is the fact that you opened up with the "you buy me a drink instead." I never understand the reasons for this. sure its playful, but its such a hit or miss that either a) she thinks its funny, or b) you're a cheap ass, good bye. i think because she automatically hated the fact that you were scouring her for a drink (even though she wanted one out of you), that she started being a bitch. this is why i hate bringing up buying things when meeting someone at a club. i feel like she wouldn't have been such a cunt if you didn't start off the convo with the idea of one of you getting something out of it

-Emerica- · 2012-04-30T23:12:16+00:00

Very entertaining read.

I'll certainly be writing in the future about the exact process I took to basically "buy" a club

I'm waiting around for this one.

d41d8cd · 2012-05-01T03:21:51+00:00

I hate to be that guy, but this story sounds...well it sounds like total bullshit, or you're just bad at paraphrasing.

"He did to ME what WE DO to guys!" She cried.

ಠ_ಠ

YellowBlackbird- · 2012-04-30T20:16:04+00:00

Mr PUA Hero? You really got em back, bro!

ARealSocialIdiot · 2012-05-01T00:09:52+00:00

I didn't read the whole thing so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I've been listening to Tyler Durden's Blueprint Decoded, and he talks about one of the clips about clubs.

He goes on about how all these V.I.P guys are in booths filled with chicks. You know why? Not because money is attractive, but because he is essentially being a provider. He is giving them what they want, and when they want to fuck someone, 90% of the time it is not that guy.

You will build a stronger and faster foundation by not using money as a crutch to try and simulate "value". You create your own value through confidence, and in X amount of time, you don't need a booth for show.

UnapologeticalyAlive · 2012-05-01T13:58:30+00:00

"Buy your own drinks!" The second girl, a blond, replied with a look of disapproval.

As soon as she said that, I would have said "alright" and walked away. That kind of double standard really gets on my nerves. They expect you to buy them a drink, then when you reflect that expectation back at them, they respond like this. I can only imagine their reaction if you said "buy your own drinks!" to them.

b_blizzy · 2012-05-01T19:30:51+00:00

Fake or not the main thing I will take from this story is to not take other people's perceived bad attitude's personally.

MalcolmY · 2012-04-30T21:35:59+00:00

Screw every single letter written/scanned/typed on to the internet.

"He did to ME what WE DO to guys!"

This is the best thing I have ever fucking read!

poopyfarts · 2012-04-30T23:09:43+00:00

man I got a headache just reading this, too much.

MrSparkle666 · 2012-05-01T08:52:48+00:00

Oh look, another pk_atheist post where he over-analyzes a brief social encounter that doesdn't result in getting laid, a number, a make-out, or ANYTHING and then writes a lengthy essay about it.

Dude, look, you are a good writer, but this is getting really tiring. About halfway through the post I realized "this isn't going anywhere and this guy is a dick" and I thought, "I bet this is another pk_athiest post". Hey look, I was right!

And I have to say, you really fucked this one up. The girls were being bitchy to you because you were acting like a cocky asshole to them. Then, the blonde literally invited you to re-engage with the brunette and you blew her off. It's okay if you thought she was a bitch and didn't want to sleep with her, but if that's the case, I don't want to hear about it. A post that goes on and on and then results in a missed opportunity is just a circle jerk. Fucking cut it out, man. This is just a bunch of self-congratulatory douchebag bullshit. You have a problem.

Bhorzo · 2012-04-30T20:54:02+00:00

I'd have to be paid to stick my penis into that.

Paid a lot.

martijn_nl · 2012-04-30T23:13:37+00:00

Loving your blog man, like your writing-style, keep that shit going!

YellowBlackbird- · 2012-05-01T00:01:46+00:00

You handled the situation pretty well, but I'm not sure if I'd call it great game. At the end of the day you never closed, you just pissed her off. I'll act like a dick to girls for a while, but when I get the sense that they're starting to honestly get mad and are no longer having a good time, I switch it over and become more playful. What NickTDS said is pretty accurate, you gotta break the "bitch tension" eventually, cause she sure as hell won't.

Zeptometer · 2012-04-30T18:56:33+00:00

Heh. About time I read something like this.

Sounded like an interesting encounter. Where'd you learn how to turn everything around so smoothly? This sounds like a good tool to have in the bag if some negative shit starts coming down the pipe.

2012-05-01T13:57:57+00:00

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sillymallard · 2012-05-01T22:24:29+00:00

Dude, thank you for writing out the dialogue. This is beautiful stuff. Thank you!

VagabundoDoMundo · 2012-04-30T22:17:16+00:00

I applaud you.

Edgar_Allan_Rich · 2012-05-01T03:40:09+00:00

Nice narrative bookended with blog advertisements, bro.

WolfInTheField · 2012-04-30T22:53:34+00:00

'well where's your suit then?'

slow clap

Toolazytolink · 2012-05-01T01:07:33+00:00

Wow I would have handled this strangely. I would have just walked away... See the weird part about people is they what we call " lives" you don't know what this person has been through. What if her bf just cheated on her and her friend forced her to go out? Maybe you remind her of said bf? What If her dog just died? Or maybe the is just a genuine bitch.

In either way she's not worth my time.

Edit: spelling.

2012-05-01T05:13:28+00:00

tl;dr I lost interest 1/3 of the way through. I'd rather hear scummy stories instead of moral high-grounders.

IAmTheOmNom · 2012-04-30T21:50:07+00:00

Somebody give this guy an oscar.

2012-04-30T21:38:55+00:00

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2012-04-30T21:26:09+00:00

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2012-04-30T23:56:29+00:00

good shit bro! that sure does sound like a public service to me. you got it down brotha. keep it up.

canadian_stig · 2012-05-01T02:20:21+00:00

"Are you gay?"

Only on Mondays.

Disclaimer: Make sure it isn't Monday.

GingerFClose · 2012-05-01T04:15:46+00:00

Dude, that was like the most well written field report I've ever read. You have won me over as a blog follower, very well done Sir.

2012-04-30T21:26:25+00:00

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otakuman · 2012-05-01T05:00:23+00:00

My hero! :')

2012-05-01T03:56:31+00:00

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seasidelion · 2012-05-01T08:07:31+00:00

gold.

Reinheardt · 2012-04-30T22:50:46+00:00

tl dr?

atafies · 2012-04-30T21:39:09+00:00

/r/dating and /r/relationships could use this!

mrzack · 2012-04-30T21:42:02+00:00

your cumbacks r weak. u shoulda just asked if she wuz a dolled up bitch when she asked if you were gay.

*edit: or say, "you probably don't want the attention, and I shouldn't pay you any notice coz you're not that special."
that will fuk her mind up and have her begging you to take her as the night draws on.

Title	Club Bitches
Author	[deleted]
Upvotes	277
Comments	167
Date	April 30, 2012 6:24 PM UTC (14 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/seduction
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