But educating boys is dumb right, because apparently men only invest 30-40% and girls 90%? Thanks Intel.

callthebankshot · 2012-10-10T20:18:28+00:00

Microfinance, or "putting money in women's hands," may make a difference to a country's development as well, she said. Coleman referred to a study that showed while women spend 90 percent of their income on their family, men put only 30 to 40 percent of their earnings toward theirs. When women earn money, she said, they use it to benefit the community.

The article doesn't actually cite the study referenced anywhere.

ZimbaZumba · 2012-10-10T19:21:47+00:00

10% more girls in school => GDP goes up 3%

My guess is that it is actually

GDP goes up 3% => 10% more girls in school

TRAUMAjunkie · 2012-10-10T19:49:42+00:00

I'm pretty sure 100% of my income goes into my family. Fuck, I'm doing something wrong.

gamgron · 2012-10-10T20:00:11+00:00

As an Engineer at a top university I think people missed the point on this. Companies like Intel really want there to be more women in the sciences because diversity is really popular. There are lots of factors causing this (gender stereotypes, ect) but I know that my major has a very high women % and there are max 30% women in any class. For EECS (what Intel is really interested in) I've been in classes that had at most 15-20 women out of 300 students.

Looking at the add, based on the nature of the culture, Intel's PR machine can't really say "We need more women in sciences you guys keep getting easier diplomas and it's hurting our recruiting numbers". So instead they are just trying to get more women in general into education hoping that it will increase the number of women who get Science degrees. But considering there are generally always more women in college then men, I think they really dropped the ball on their message.

2012-10-10T19:39:07+00:00

Good job Intel, you just lost a customer for life.

JesusSaidSo · 2012-10-10T22:53:43+00:00

Wow... looks like my next build is AMD.

2012-10-10T19:22:47+00:00

Glad I use AMD.

I'd be willing to wager this, if true, is due to women controlling/spending most of the family income regardless of it's source.

ThePigman · 2012-10-11T10:33:05+00:00

How many here have moms who will even claim that their dads put only 30-40% of their income into the family? Very fucking few would be my guess, yet many fools will look at the statistic and not even think of comparing it to the real world.

LucasTrask · 2012-10-10T19:49:12+00:00

Whose ass are they pulling that 30-40% figure out of?

Sasha_ · 2012-10-11T15:36:34+00:00

The Intel poster, and all the other reports cited on this thread (2009 Nike Foundation, 2009 UN Girl's Education Initiative and the OECD report) have the same original source: a 2003 article by Chris Fortson in the Yale Daily News, reporting on a speech given at Yale by Isabel Coleman PhD, Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, NY.

I've just emailed Isabel, and she says simply: "Thanks for asking - it’s a misquote. That is not what I said."

AnthonyZarat · 2012-10-10T19:13:36+00:00

I swear to NEVER buy another device that contains an intel processor in it

There is no other possible response to this outrage.

Sporkboy · 2012-10-10T19:51:27+00:00

Can this be tracked back to a source other than imgur.com before I pull my pitchfork out of the closet? I'm tempted to actually get out of my chair over this one and do something, but I want to verify that this was actually produced by Intel first.

Sasha_ · 2012-10-11T13:07:55+00:00

I found the origin of the statistic.

OECD cites it from a book by Phil Borges.

It appears to be exclusively about the developing world which seems like it might have been worthwhile to include that piece of critical information. I actually do believe that women would probably average such a reinvestment rate vs men, because the bulk of the wealth in developing countries is held by 1-2 men (the dictators) who tend not to invest it in others.

Anyone got a web access point to this book? Further investigation is required.

namae_nanka · 2012-10-11T15:48:29+00:00

oh I have another statistical juggernaut:

"A world profile on women, using selected economic and social indicators, reveals that women constitute one half of the world population and one third of the official labour force; perform nearly two-thirds of work hours; but according to some estimates receive only one-tenth of the world income and possess less than one-hundredth of world property."

http://familyinequality.wordpress.com/2011/03/15/stop-that-feminist-viral-statistic-meme/

Statistics are a snapshot in time, and thus it's important to note that reality simply won't follow what you see at one instance. The empowered women who then live a single sex-in-the-city lifestyle will cut down that statistic quite quickly. That is, if we are to believe that it is true in the first place.

2012-10-11T17:45:05+00:00

Intel just got added to the list.

2012-10-10T19:41:33+00:00

Intel believes education should be a fundamental right for everyone and is committed to making a real difference for girls across the globe.

Huh? Fuck the boys they know not what they need to know already.

memymineown · 2012-10-10T20:26:31+00:00

I saw somewhere that college educated men give 6 back times than it cost to educate them while college educated women only give back 2.5.

Can anyone find it?

Also, aren't the vast, vast majority of intel engineers men? And hasn't pretty much every single person in the development of what they make and the things that use their products been men?

This sexism is incredible.

JockeVXO · 2012-10-10T23:50:09+00:00

What's the source for 70% out-of-school youth being girls? The latest figure I heard (from Musikhjälpen's campaign here in Sweden) was 53% girls...

Mallack · 2012-10-10T19:52:27+00:00

Huh, another reason for me to always build computers with AMD processors

MRhama · 2012-10-10T21:37:35+00:00

Relevant TED-talk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qqqVwM6bMM

Quazz · 2012-10-10T21:43:33+00:00

Sounds more like girls are slaves in certain countries FORCED to give all their money up to their family.

What a load of wankers to try and portray that as a good thing.

Hach8 · 2012-10-10T20:13:16+00:00

These statistics seem to easily confuse cause and effect - and also general proportionality.

Though I think there are a lot of good things to be said about making education available to girls and young women in third world (particularly Muslim) countries.

To say that this poster was a ham-fisted attempt at the subject would be generous.

rusty890 · 2012-10-10T23:31:07+00:00

They can't even say something good about women without insulting men. This just goes to show that, quite often, the promotion of women is intertwined with misandry.

Kozbot · 2012-10-11T15:23:34+00:00

In developing countries I can see this being true.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2012-10-10T21:16:15+00:00

I really want to know how they defined "investment".

SteelCrossx · 2012-10-11T02:17:41+00:00

When a girl receives an education, she has a real opportunity to break the cycle of poverty in just one generation.

Wait, what? Are American women generally considered impoverished? I've seen the 'women own almost none of the world's wealth' statistic but is that what they're referencing? I thought the argument for that was a history of women not being allowed ownership, a completely different argument than lack of educational opportunities.

JeremyKean · 2012-10-11T04:30:30+00:00

What the fuck do men apparently spend their money on?

NWOslave · 2012-10-10T20:06:21+00:00

If what that add says is true, the US would be a shining example of that effect. Why is the opposite the case? Women, reguardless of their family situation spend the majority on themselves. In fact the majority of their husbands and boyfriends money, when they can have at it, they also spend it on themselves. The vast majority of taxes is spent directly on women. Virtually all charities are a womans only club.

I never could understand those adds except for their propaganda value. The fact is, throughout all of history it has always been men who've invested far more. And in the modern western world, men are veritable saints of generosity.

kencabbit · 2012-10-10T21:34:05+00:00

This... actually really offends me. Sigh.

edit: Looking further into the context of the image, rather than the image by itself, I'm not nearly as offended. Still don't like it, though.

electriophile · 2012-10-11T00:05:22+00:00

I highly doubt this infographic is directed to western societies. It's talking about uneducated youth in the entire world. Also, saying that educating girls is smart, is not the same thing as saying educating boys is dumb. Educating boys or girls is not mutually exclusive.

I mean, yeah, this chart is just pandering to women to try and get them to buy Intel stuff, but it's not a reason for monstrous outrage.

AnthonyCharlesXavier · 2012-10-10T23:52:12+00:00

So many confounding variables!

2012-10-11T01:35:54+00:00

The education system is really getting destroyed...

slothscantswim · 2012-10-11T02:56:30+00:00

Yeah but that thirty to forty percent for a man will still be more than ninety percent of a woman's.

callthebankshot · 2012-10-10T20:53:11+00:00

For fucks sake.

You guys are the epitome of first world narcissism.

This project is about helping girls in across the globe who get refused education for being female, how on earth can you see a "Wow, loads of girls are getting unfairly treated while boys are getting education, lets help them get education and try to gain support from others" campaign and twist it to "HAHAHA Let's fuck those unimportant guys over" is beyond me.

kinghfb · 2012-10-10T21:41:31+00:00

What the hell is wrong with you? This is a completely acceptable campaign.

The reason that there is so much of a problem with education in females is because of ancient patriarchal bullshit that divides purely on gender lines. This campaign is attempting to highlight this discrepancy and help raise the overall rates of education. You don't think educating women is a good idea in countries that have otherwise kept them in the dark?

When your country prevents 50% of the population from obtaining an education sheerly on gender grounds, you're effectively tossing away 50% of your potential workforce.

Show me in the document where it states that boys will be thrown into a river to make room for a girl. Nowhere. It is simply providing money towards awareness campaigns for countries that are still stuck in the past.

Title	But educating boys is dumb right, because apparently men only invest 30-40% and girls 90%? Thanks Intel.
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