Reminder: 50% of all Marriages end in Divorce. 70-90% of all divorces is initiated by the wife, 90% of custody is given to Mothers.

xsplizzle · 2021-09-07T08:47:50+00:00

How are you finding friends as an adult? Its become increasingly difficult to find friends in my 30s

HiZ_Positive · 2021-09-07T05:52:52+00:00

Most men probably aren't the type of person to irresponsibly gamble half of their present-day net-worth plus a portion of future income at a casino, but that's essentially what marriage has become, without any of the negative stigma. Every person believes their marriage is special and different.. until it isn't.

Cuntinghell · 2021-09-07T06:55:35+00:00

In UK I get a reduction in child support based on the frequency of their overnight stays at my house. However, the mother has prevented some of the stays recently. Then she contacted the child support agency (CMS) to report that the number of overnight stays has reduced so I should pay more. They agreed. I contacted my local MP and the CMS to ask why parent alienation is being financially rewarded. The MP will "look into it" and the CMS said they are following the rules. And if we shared equal custody 50/50 I would still have to pay her. Such a crap system, no wonder why so many blokes top themselves.

pubgmisc · 2021-09-07T12:14:22+00:00

Never get into a contract with someone who is rewarded for breaking it

AndyBrown65 · 2021-09-07T08:26:50+00:00

I was about 21 when one of the guys went through a divorce. He said "I would have been better off going up to a random chick, giving her half my money and saying "I hate you, now go an spread rumours behind my back about me being useless in bed and having a small dick""

Dachande1324 · 2021-09-07T10:16:45+00:00

If you wanna see who a contract is designed to benefit, take a look at who wins when it's undone.

Ixz72 · 2021-09-07T12:08:47+00:00

11 years ago, just like the stat pointed out, my wife initiated the divorce while she was going through a mid-life crisis and started cheating on me with her high school crush.

You have to realize that when people initiate a separation, they have been planning it for weeks, months or even years. They know what they are doing and will be more level headed on what to do next. In the mean time, you will be confused not knowing what's going on or what to do.

I know this sounds devious, but it's the time they will start working things to their advantage. I remember at the time I was bring homes a little over $500/ week and my ex-wanted me to give her $300/ week for "child support" and I was dumb enough to consider it.

Good thing a very good friend recommended I attend a divorce support group and I heard one of the best advice given to me, "don't let your soon to be ex wife be your lawyer. Don't let her tell you what you should do".

Since neither her nor I could afford to lawyer up, we went into mediation and I was in such a daze, I would have given her anything she asked for. Plus the mediator was a woman so I expected to get screwed without lube.

To my surprise, the mediator was very objective and professional and I walked out of there with her paying me $200/month in Child support and us paying only the debts we incurred in our individual names. I came out ahead.

The moral of the story is, don't think or settle for the thought that you will be screwed. As much as a lot of the world has told us men will all be screwed, it doesn't always happen especially when the law favors you. One good example is the person who makes more money in the relationship (provided custody will be 50/50) will be the one paying child support.

"Expect the worst, hope for the best" is a sound mantra.

Proud_Box_3536 · 2021-09-07T09:08:52+00:00

Pre marriage agreement needs to be a thing

Silentpoolman · 2021-09-07T20:23:10+00:00

The older I get the more I realize interacting with other humans has no merit whatsoever

TRDPaul · 2021-09-07T09:45:33+00:00

Apparently the divorce rate has recently started to fall from 50%, that change is mostly driven by the massive drop in marriages though

VeteranOfDepression · 2021-09-08T00:58:02+00:00

Don't a lot of the mothers after the divorce use the child support money on things for themselves instead of their kid(s)?

Svenskbtch · 2021-09-07T10:40:01+00:00

What do we know, or what would you speculate about the reasons for this state of affairs? Pretty much all over the world in countries above a certain income level do we see the same thing: divorce rates rising sharply between 1965 and 1985 and then stagnating at about the same levels with some variations (less in traditionally conservative Southern Europe, for instance). While we should of course celebrate that people who do not belong together do not have to stay together and torment each other as they probably used to, there has to be more to it than that - it cannot be the case that the majority of us are making terrible life partner decisions systematically.

Second, we should not forget how the adversarial Anglo-Saxon legal system exacerbates the negative effects. In my country of birth though never of residence, Sweden, pretty much all the divorced couples I know have shared custody and decent, at times friendly, relations. That is because permanent alimony was abolished in the 60s, because almost always both spouses work, because shared custody is the default (although this still de facto means living with the mother during the school week), and because child support is based on means and hence relatively rare and when applicable - modest. While non-custodial fathers still get a worse deal, it is at least a deal most can live with - unjustified parental alienation is, I think, rare for the simple reason that divorcing spouses have .very few monetary incentives to slam the other party.

Third, apart from working on reforming the way the justice system treats divorces (supported, incidentally, by conservatives at least as much as feminists - in fact feminists lay behind the Swedish reforms), and removing some of the unintended incentives to divorce in the welfare system that have become so iconic in the US debate, I struggle to see what we could or should do about it. People have to be free to make their own choices as long as they do not hurt others. We already have strong evolutionary and cultural (and religious, though religious precepts emerge from evolution and culture) precepts and instincts to pair up - it is only now, with our enormous wealth historically speaking, that divorcing has even become a viable option for most.

I welcome your thoughts. Just like abortion, divorce is nothing we should celebrate or promote - but also nothing we can reasonably legally constrain.

(Sorry for the abortion example - not only do I not want to sideline the debate and rile up those otherwise inclined, I also realised that abortion is different in that a clear trade-off, or negative externality, is involved that we of course have to weigh up against the principle of the right to bodily autonomy.)

deetar · 2021-09-07T16:55:45+00:00

I'd add to the list: do not co-mingle. Keep any assets owned before the relationship in your name only. In most US states, these assets will not be divided.

Consult competent legal counsel before you need competent legal counsel.

caem123 · 2021-09-07T09:03:02+00:00

Asset protection can occur in a marriage if you find yourself married.

Buying a house can be done in your parents' name. Then the mortgage payment, repairs, etc can be covered by the married couple. There's no difference in cash flow of the couple. However, in the event of a divorce, the house ownership and equity is outside the marriage and owned by the parent(s) of one spouse. A divorce judge will NOT decide who gets the house and will NOT split the equity. Additionally, a divorce judge may want the children to remain in their PRIMARY residence for school reasons, etc.

In the event the parent(s) died, the house would be inherited by the spouse and inherited assets are most often shield from divorce settlements, so the above would still count.

Mrky859 · 2021-09-07T16:33:49+00:00

Marriage is a scam by women .

bacon-wrapped-steak · 2021-09-07T19:52:09+00:00

I'm 34. My ex and I weren't married. She stole my two young children (2 and infant) and took them 8 hours away by car. She falsely accused me of physical abuse, and I never touched her a single time in more than 5 years together. None of my ex-girlfriends have ever been physically abused by me either.

She moved back in with her parents and now there are four generations of people living under a single household. Her grandparents, her parents, her plus a couple younger siblings, and my two children.

Now I'm stuck paying more than $2,000 per month to her for "child support." It's going to stay that way for the next 18 years.

I'm seriously thinking about just taking my own life.

furchfur · 2021-09-07T11:23:24+00:00

Divorced wives do not deserve maintenance for life, but our marital laws need an urgent overhaul. London is the divorce capital of the world

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/divorce-law-uk-baroness-deech-blame-money-marriage-cohabitation-break-a7648651.html

That90sGuyMedia · 2021-09-07T13:06:27+00:00

Man I'm glad I'm gay

Billy-Batdorf · 2021-09-07T03:09:25+00:00

A lot of working class people cannot afford to not cohabitate. It's often necessary in order to avoid being rent burdened.
People aren't going to stop, consider protesting for Men's Rights instead.
Again, it's not going to stop. If this communities attitude is 'I told you so, fuck you', what possibility is there for a rights movement?

Broda_osas360 · 2021-09-07T15:54:23+00:00

Can someone explain why the divorce court and government favors women and screws men over

MGTOWManofMystery · 2021-09-07T16:12:51+00:00

Indeed. Gender norms have changed for women as a result of Feminism. However, gender norms for men haven't changed yet. It is time that we focus on Men's Rights and eschew the feudal institution of marriage and anything adjacent to it. Marriage results in a sharp decrease in men's rights and leads to psychic and financial ruin in many cases. Just say no.

keyboredwarrior · 2021-09-07T17:32:21+00:00

Some scary numbers

West_Appearance_657 · 2021-09-07T15:41:38+00:00

I'm 18 and already decided I'll never marry. I'll keep my money and house and freedom, thanks

Selfmade_3127 · 2021-09-07T08:12:31+00:00

it's just a scam to get your genes and half your money ...

TheSilverShade · 2021-09-07T10:57:37+00:00

Very good advice

But careful now, they might call you a mysogynist and a terrorist just cause of that. You're terrorizing them by not complying to their demand /s

Seriously tho, the number of reports I would get for threads like these when I was modding mgtow2 was astronomical.

Kvothe2906 · 2021-09-07T16:52:03+00:00

‘Murica

AggressiveProblem654 · 2021-09-08T07:00:43+00:00

Okay so I made a throwaway account for this post.

This is basically my "life story" so to speak from a guy in his mid 30s. For starters, I'm not against marriage but I've come to realize that it is not realistic for most men to find a suitable marriage partner and if you do find a marriage partner, you're probably not compatible for marriage. I like the idea of marriage from a more spiritual point of view....as in two people loving each other but not involving any government contracts. I think the best type of relationship for men is simply the friend with benefits. This is the type of relationship where you will have your maximum happiness as a man.

My background is that I'm in my mid 30s. My income is around 120k USD. 95k from my job and about 25k from my investments. I have a net worth of $1.2 million, almost all stock. I have a vasectomy and do not want kids or to get married ever.

When I was younger, I mostly did the player lifestyle in college. I would hook up with a woman every couple months just for fun type of thing. I mostly focused on my schooling as I was super focused to get good grades. My major is in chemical engineering. So my first lesson for all you younger guys on here is to go to college, focus on school, study a good major WITH CAREER POTENTIAL. As a young man, your career potential is 100% your focus above everything else. Do not let any side shows get you distracted (women, partying, "living the college experience"). You can do some of it but never let it become your entire college experience. You will regret it. If you aren't having luck on the hookup scene, do not stress it because hooking up will get easier as you get older (and have money). I know it is difficult seeing beautiful women hooking up with other older dudes, but don't let it get your hopes down.

After college, I got my career started making about 60k/year. At this point, I shifted into the steady career grind of 9-5 M-F work. I lived my life frugal and minimalist and saved a good chunk of my money. All going into stocks. At this point in my life I really thought about what I wanted out of life, relationships and so on. I decided I never wanted kids so I got a vasectomy. It is well worth it to get if you know for sure you don't want kids. Case in point: learn very early in life if you want kids or not. If you don't, definitely get a vasectomy because it takes so much anxiety off your belt in terms of sex. At this point, I simply continued to engage in hookup culture and would focus on my old college meeting spots and even continued to attending old school clubs. I would meet women and we would hookup. Some women I had long-term friends with benefits relationships.

For all relationships you need to have very strong boundaries:

never allow her to live in your apartment/home. Short-term weekend sleepovers are fine, but nothing more than that.
always keep her in the friend with benefits zone. Make it very clear in telling her that you do not have any plans for marriage or long-term relationships.
Learn to let women go. Some women will not stick around and that is fine because there are is plenty of other fish out there. You need to learn to accept this and not take it personal. I see so many men that simply cannot accept rejection. You need to learn to get beyond that. There is always another woman around the block, always.

For some women, it might only be a short-term fling, while other women might want some sort of routine FWB arrangement.

Another thing that is important. Maintain your health. Your health is IMPORTANT to yourself and your confidence. Do not become overweight, do not eat junk food, learn to practice stress management, learn to exercise properly. ALL OF THIS IMPORTANT TO YOU AS A MAN! Doing these things is important to you, not simply thing to do to get women but of course, being healthy is important for attracting women.

Learn how to dance properly, learn how to respect women properly, learn how to groom properly, learn how to dress properly for each event and so on. All of these are very important not only for dating but for your own self-esteem. If you suck at any of the above your confidence will lack and it will show. Learn how to socialize with women. I know for men this is hard to do but you have to learn to overcome it. Learn to accept rejection. Learn to accept that you won't get every woman and if a woman is rejecting you that it is okay. Don't take it personal. Remember, finding women is all a numbers game. The more times you roll the dice, the more chance you have of meeting someone.

So that pretty much covers it on the dating scene type of stuff.

In terms of friends. All my friends are men. I focus on more outdoor type hobbies like archery, horseback riding occasionally, hiking, golf, sport shooting, boating and so on. Most of these activities have hobbyist clubs. Go to those events and talk to people. Believe it or not, most of my best friends are older men in their 50s,60s, and 70s. Lots of them are retired early. They have lots of time and invite me to events they're hosting all the time. I'm never lonely.

Also let me make this very clear to all men. What the OP wrote is 100% the truth. There will be people that downplay those risks but the reality is that it is still there. The simple fact is that marriage does not benefit men EVER. If you want sex, you can get it outside of a relationship. If you want love, you can get it outside of marriage. If you want kids, you can get them outside of marriage. You have to look at marriage for what it is: A BUSINESS FORMATION. That's it! The reality is most women are simply not suitable for marriage whatsoever. Also marriage does NOT guarantee you ANYTHING because getting a divorce is EASY. Women are biologically hardwired to always be looking for the "next best thing". Even if you are Mr. Perfect, she will still find something to fault you for and social media, twitter and her feminists friends will all be encouraging her to get a divorce and find a "better man". Just say no to marriage. Do not sign any contracts, ever.

kaiserleech · 2021-09-07T08:37:58+00:00

The how to protect yourself advice is basically: don't risk anything. While agreeing with the problem, i disagree with the proposed solution. Don't expect it to work, but balance the risk out for yourself. And if the law is biased, unjust and wrong - let's make a change! Let's work together to find justice.

AmuseDeath · 2021-09-07T06:04:50+00:00

50/80/90

Physical-Pie748 · 2021-09-07T13:36:00+00:00

women with more sexual partners and women who had a cohabitation with different men, and women who already married before are more likely to divorce (i have that from the link). interesting, and funny thing is that women complain that men have a interest to know her sexual past

CardiologistLow8371 · 2021-09-07T11:42:12+00:00

If a man wants to get married despite these risks, the best thing he can do is focus on finding a partner who isn't narcissistic, which is extremely difficult these days. Apart from that, avoid these women - they can be tougher to spot than the more obvious ones (drug addicts, single mothers, alcoholics, etc):

1) Very sexual type: She will have higher chances of slipping up and cheating on you, especially if there ever comes a point in your life where you physically can't give her enough.

2) Very emotional type: She will give you more drama than #1 and is also very prone to cheating on you since sex is typically a very emotional thing for women.

3) Underachiever: If she's not bringing as much to the table, you're setting yourself up for a more stressful life and also more financial risk down the road in the event of a divorce.

4) Very social type: Setting up a lifestyle that's suitable for her to see lots of friends very often can be time consuming and costly for you. Also, she needs lots of attention and you know what's going to happen if she doesn't get it from you.

5) Materialistic type: Good luck trying to make enough money to keep up with her spending habits, and good luck maintaining her interest if the bank account struggles.

6) Very physically attractive type: She knows she's marketable, is probably spoiled,, and things can change quickly as soon as you hit a rough patch in the marriage.

So what's the bottom line? Find a woman who is financially and emotionally stable, who isn't overly attractive, social, or sexual (the fun women are for casual dating, not marriage), and who is generally low maintenance. Yes, it helps if you have common interests/values/etc but even finding the common ground is arguably less important than avoiding the red flags, given the stakes.

Reddit_Sux_Hardcore · 2021-09-07T11:56:46+00:00

I'd also like to add that yes, although 50% end in divorce, we have to allot a certain percentage of marriages that continue to be very unhappy ones where the man CANNOT leave because he "cannot afford it". So although yes, we can say half of marriages fail, we really should be able to say that most marriages fail, because that percentage of marriages that continue are a failure due to unhappiness and the feeling of being trapped. I'd give it at least 10%, but I think 15% might be more appropriate.. to put on top.

So, what can I do to protect myself? Do not Cohabitate. Do not Get married. Do not have any kids.

I don't do any of those things currently, but I guess I'm not opposed to it with the right woman who I've screened for red flags - but I understand that isn't any type of insurance policy.

and meditating more

I think I suck at doing that.

usku · 2021-09-07T15:53:26+00:00

Oh man. I got split from my first with kids. It sucked, but in hindsight, she treated me way better then most people I hear about.

I see dudes paying 2-3k a month and having to take a pay cut to see their weekend kids, and the judge still won’t reduce their payment because just because you are doing the right thing we can’t let you dodge your monetary responsibilities to your ex.

It’s horse shit, and Canada’s Family Court system is cucked and filled with kangaroos.

lolibreeder · 2021-09-07T21:32:48+00:00

~" Equality"~ boys

ZxynesZxero · 2021-09-08T00:06:55+00:00

About .2, I want to get married, have kids and start a family. What should I do?

Textraaa · 2021-09-08T12:09:41+00:00

Never get married without a prenuptial agreement. Other wise fellas, your screwed.

Marriage now a days contains more risk that reward, honestly just don’t do it

deadmanwa1king23 · 2021-09-09T00:19:24+00:00

Any thoughts on how you plan to get care during health crisis or during old age? This question always scared me

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FlyingSpaceBanana · 2021-09-07T09:12:33+00:00

I'm going to play devil's advocate here with the caveat that I do think that men are grossly treated in divorce proceedings and in child custody cases, this does need to change. However, I have seed both from personal experience and from many friends and families that a lot of men change after marriage, not not for the better. Especially if children are involved.

I'll give myself as an example here since I can't talk acurately about other people's marriages.

My husband is a very smart, handsome, hard working man and a truly excellent father. I could not have found a better man to have kids with. Before we were married I would have added kind and respectful that list. I don't anymore because he is not kind or respectful to me and I would actually say he's a very poor husband.

I'll give some examples:

- If he or the children are ill I take care of all of them, even if I'm ill myself. I don't mind this, I want to take care of my family. But if I myself am ill my husband will NOT take care of me. It is inconvenient to him and his work or his projects take priority. He'll notice if the car wheels are flat but not if I'm so exhausted that actual strangers will stop me to ask if I'm ok because I look white as a sheet.

- I take care of the cooking, laundry, childcare and I also run my own business. Five years ago that business brought in 30-35k a year. Since having children I got very ill for a year and I'm now in the position of having to start from scratch again because my previous work is no longer compatible with the health issues I have from having given birth. Everything is always a scramble, my now much smaller income goes towards my husbands hobbies. He goes to boxing lessons twice a week, has a very expensive motorbike, and has an hour to himself to excercise and decompress after work each day. He also has a £6,000 (and counting) workshop for himself. All of these things are funded by my income, yet him allocating time for me to do my own work after everything else is incovienient and much always mesh well with his schedule. My work is taken for granted and my income contributions not respected.

I think as soon as we got married the novelty of me wore off and everything was just expected. I'm not going to pretend I'n perfect, I know that I'm can be very spineless and allow things to happen for far too long, but I'm a very good wife and I don't deserve to be treated like this. This state of the marriage is not unique to me. I know several women who's husbands would increasingly pile more and more work onto their wives, provide very little care, while showing no appreciation for their wives. Eventually you get to the point where you can't take it anymore and you figure it would be better to be a single mum than a heartbroken, resentful wife.

Personally, I will never divorce my husband. But I can understand why people do and why it's so common.

Squegillies · 2021-09-07T06:57:39+00:00

Still going to get married and have kids lol

Ttoksie · 2021-09-07T08:13:06+00:00

I do wonder what it really takes to end up this cold and bitter.

My first wife left me while pregnant with my second child, she took the kids, emptied the bank account, alienated me, accused me of mistreating her and my children.

I didn't meet my son until his first birthday, I pay child support, I lost all of my savings and had to live in my father's back yard in a tent for 12 months to get back on my feet financially.

And I still didn't end up as cold and bitter as OP and some of the other poster's here.

I used my experience of what a not to look for to find a woman that will actually work with me (and I mean work literally, she has a job) and made sure I had my shit sorted out to the point that someone that actually had they're shit together wouldn't view me as a head case.

Don't let yourself be as miserable as some of the people on here people, just don't settle for some bimbo.

Don't cohabitate to young.

Don't cohabitate with someone that hasn't sorted they're shit out from previous relationships.

Don't marry someone that has lingering red flags, move on if they're not good enough.

Have kids with someone with the same values as you.

Bring up your values, especially the ones that are controversial or likely to cause conflict well before you move in with, marry or have children, move on if they're not compatible.

Don't let yourself be a miserable lonely basted just to die on a hill, if someone worthy does come along make sure you're ready to treat them as someone worthy deserves to be, stick to your boundaries and make sure you don't settle for less than you are worth.

Rude-Comedian3996 · 2021-09-07T23:25:13+00:00

I been married for ten years and I'm happy

xsplizzle · 2021-09-07T06:48:18+00:00

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Smitty1017 · 2021-09-07T12:00:46+00:00

It's important to note that the 50% number is definitely inflated by people with multiple failed marriages though.

I support men's rights and am also happily married to a good women. The things are not mutually exclusive.

frednoname1 · 2021-09-07T15:23:43+00:00

Fund things you like to do. Women want to always be the center of attention. It is exhausting. I would rather play sports with my friends than deal with the endless games.

ThreeLeggedTranny · 2021-09-07T13:10:09+00:00

If you can be happy living this life, I guess there isn't really anything wrong with it, but I think its going to be a hard sell for most people. Intimate relationships are what make life worth living, IMO. I would literally rather not live than live without them.

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anillop · 2021-09-07T14:04:33+00:00

Apparently everyone should just become a hermit isolate themselves from these horrible women and just survive on bitterness alone. What a bleak and said outlook to have on life. I’d rather take a chance and have a good life with a great companion then worry about the statistics and spend my life hiding from the world.

Omega_Chode_Mann · 2021-09-07T12:52:02+00:00

Or sign a prenup

Disloyal_Donkey · 2021-09-07T11:37:01+00:00

Wow this sub went incel super fast.

Go ahead, be miserable and lonely for the rest of your life. Don’t take chances, blame everyone else but yourself, get your copeium from griping to internet strangers.

By the way, all of your “facts” are bullshit. 1.Unless you have like 4 kids, you won’t pay 40% of your income. 2.Dads are equally as likely to get full custody if they go to court and fucking fight for it. 3.Every state is different and alimony is usually factored into child support payments 4.literally just your opinion 5. Good job, this is a fact.

So done with this “feel sorry for me” bullshit.

Complex-Stress373 · 2021-09-07T08:24:15+00:00

jeez, and is so true...

DirectionHoliday5042 · 2021-09-08T10:21:04+00:00

Thanks for the advise (:

Ok_Plankton248479 · 2021-09-07T07:02:11+00:00

Most divorces can be avoided by being a better husband. Pay attention to what needs to be done in the joint effort. I've spoken to a lot of divorced men who claim victimhood, but when they explain the whole situation, it is clear that they were not doing their part.

MercurysonofJupiter · 2021-09-07T02:27:13+00:00

So you're source for these "statistics" is...a bunch of cherry-picled atudies by a law firm that makes it's money by representing people on divorces? Yup, very objective and reliable.

Fun-Macaroon-3539 · 2021-09-07T13:01:13+00:00

But isn’t the man in the relationship usually the cause of the divorce?

sunshine0742 · 2021-09-07T14:07:25+00:00

Everyone woman I know who is divorced or considering it says just about the same thing: “I do all of the work, he expects me to take care of him and the kids. I get nothing in return. He has hobbies and takes time to relax but i am expected to be in constant service of my family and take no time for myself. I’m no longer attracted to him physically because i feel like his mother and no woman wants to be sexual with a child. If I get divorced, he will be required to take care of the kids himself at least some of the time and I will have one less person to clean up after.” Also these are people who I know personally- they are not exaggerating. The vast majority of husbands I know are like this. I always encourage the women to speak up and try to divide things more fairly but never once has one of them told me that actually worked. I know a few awesome husbands too, but not nearly as many as the type that treat their wives like indentured servants.

travelingmarylander · 2021-09-07T16:14:12+00:00

97% of alimony payments go to men

https://www.sflg.com/blog/2014/11/why-are-only-3-percent-of-alimony-recipients-men/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20U.S.%20Census,people%20receiving%20alimony%20are%20men.

Reminder: 50% of all Marriages end in Divorce. 70-90% of all divorces is initiated by the wife, 90% of custody is given to Mothers.

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DESPITE WHAT /u/Billy-Batdorf SAYS, YOU SHOULD KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING INTO BEFORE YOU GET MARRIED. MARRIAGE IS A SCAM.

97% of alimony payments go to men

Title	Reminder: 50% of all Marriages end in Divorce. 70-90% of all divorces is initiated by the wife, 90% of custody is given to Mothers.
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