Should a man, in dating, treat women just like he treats men?

AcanthocephalaNew947 · 2022-09-25T01:41:39+00:00

You can treat your dates however you want and you’ll either succeed or fail. There really is no one size fits all way of dating. Except rule one and two.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2022-09-25T01:33:25+00:00

The issue is that men and women are human first and male/female second. The notions that women are people and that they’re different from men shouldn’t be mutually exclusive. There are hyper masculine women and hyper feminine men. All still the same species. That is the rub, dating or no - dehumanization of an “other,” which is easier to do on the internet than in person.

From my own experience, what kind of dynamic women desire with men depends heavily on generation and personality. I know some women who want to be treated like princesses. Others who themselves swear like sailors and can share some pretty raunchy stories, and share many interests hobbies with their SO. I probably lean more toward this end of the spectrum. So to whether I agree or not? It really depends. Initial courtship/ dating, it might be safer to come off more proper but you run the risk of A. Coming off kind of stiff and B. Not actually letting her get to know you which is really important for your prospects of a second date and/or sex.

Rough_Theme_5289 · 2022-09-25T01:45:48+00:00

lol quickest way to end up nowhere with women I promise

lipfromshameless · 2022-09-25T04:16:50+00:00

lol this post is so retarded

LucyintheskyM · 2022-09-25T02:21:06+00:00

You should treat them like a romantic interest. Gender is irrelevant. Do you think lesbians treat all women like their dates? Or gay men treat their romantic interest like their buddies?

toasterchild · 2022-09-25T01:31:38+00:00

Treat them like a man that you want to have sex with.

Philosoferking · 2022-09-25T02:24:14+00:00

I view women as people. Horny horny people. I treat them like any guy, until it's horny flirty time. Then, the flirting and sex dance begins.

The dance of seduction or whatever you call it, is what men need to know.

Red pill claims to have worked it out logically such that men can merely read it, and go out and perform.

But even the red pill admits that a man has to go out and try and fail many times before he really gets there.

The red pill is just the attempt to logically explain the mating dance. And it uses evolutionary psychology as a framework. Basically implying that human beings are, sexually at least, entirely animalistic.

But the mating dance is not logical. It cannot be explained. It is something you FEEL.

When I'm with a woman I feel her out. I'm not thinking. I focus on her and I just enjoy the presence of a woman.

I don't try to do shit. I don't TRY anything. I just go with the flow. I feel in the moment.

If you're trying to logic your way into pussy it might work but after a fuck ton of trial and error. Experiments gone wrong.

The process works faster if you stop thinking and start feeling.

How you supposed to make her cum her brains out if all you can think is what is the formula for orgasm?

You bring her to orgasm by being horny too. You express your lust and mix it with hers. She will bust lady nuts all night on your dick if you could fuckin actually be there in the feeling of it all.

But I think most men aren't like that. Most men are forever trapped in a world of logic. In the bedroom, you're like "I gotta do my abc's with my tongue on her clit" instead of just being the pussy loving pervert you really are and digging in like you're eating a 4 course meal, the way you REALLY wish you could do.

Just do that shit. Let the animal out. Stop thinking and start connecting with your animal sexuality.

I think that's all what women want. A decent guy treats em well and hate fucks them in the bedroom.

In a sense it's irritating to me. I personally am not Mr. Dom beat the fuck out of you hate fuckery. But they don't need that every day. Maybe once a month, maybe more or less depends on the girl.

If you can't connect to that you just look like a dweeb. You might be the perfect guy but girls won't want to be with you because girls want to CUM.

I don't give a fuck what anyone on this sub thinks. I grew up a social outcast. I grew up fucking ALONE. I used to RUN AWAY from girls in am anxiety and panicked state.

All a man needs to do is become competent in the bedroom. Competent at unleashing his inner sexual animal.

That's what's gonna get you the ladies. And now I know a bunch of fuck faces are going to reply to me how fucking stupid I am. Just downvote and move on. I just hope one person can wake the fuck up from reading this. Maybe I'm just a poor communicator. I don't know.

PlatypusPolka · 2022-09-25T01:28:12+00:00

No, unless he flirts with and sleeps with his male friends. NTTAWWT.

prizefighterstudent · 2022-09-25T03:33:19+00:00

Not if you want to get laid.

Men treat men one way. Women treat women differently. Men treat women differently. Vice-versa.

Equality is a scam in a nutshell -- we're all just pretending. We can't be the same sometimes, then not the same at others. That's not equality lol.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2022-09-25T02:49:41+00:00

Treating her like a man means to hold frame and treat her indifferently, not like she is invisible. Like men. Yes, some women like that shit. It means to say everything you mean with your chest and let her take it or leave it, and don't apologize for it, like men do men. If you want sex, that's how it works. If you want a girlfriend that takes 3 months to make up her mind about you because she can't even tell who you are, hold the doors and do performative stuff honey.

Ok-Blacksmith-9418 · 2022-09-25T02:40:57+00:00

pinktuliplover · 2022-09-25T02:35:09+00:00

Do not treat me like a man. Men and women are different and that’s a good thing.

I want to feel protected, provided for, loved, desired, and comforted. I need to see manners and at least an attempt at being a gentleman. Show me effort and romantic interest.

If you’re not willing to do that, it’s just not gonna work.

Mydragonurdungeon · 2022-09-25T01:26:03+00:00

He should treat women like humans.

"Treat women like men" is presumably well-intentioned but it's better to get to the bottom of why seeing women as men would be a prerequisite for a man to be able to interact with women normally.

carritotaquito · 2022-09-25T01:48:16+00:00

Unless most men of PPD treat the men in their life with disdain and utter indifference, why is this being asked?

The rule of thumb is this:

Men and women must treat each other all the same: with plain, simple human decency. As simple as that.

IceMysterious4265 · 2022-09-25T03:46:29+00:00

For the most part. Treating women just like men will probably have a lot more success for guys considering that a lot of guys do pedestalize women and very hard for them. But I don't know if it will magically make most guys dating lives better. My reason for that is because most women will like to be treated as equals yes but they also want to feel like they are being in a presence of somebody who is very dominant over them. Which is hard to do if she sees you as some guy who she just kicks it with.

bunnakay · 2022-09-25T02:38:49+00:00

Why are you equating "women" with "person you want to date"? Are you really that desperate?

devilgod2003 · 2022-09-25T01:37:11+00:00

KikiYuyu · 2022-09-25T01:58:02+00:00

Absolutely. If he treats men well, he should treat women just as well. If he treats men poorly, he's shitty and shouldn't get a girl anyway.

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Just-Pie-5579 · 2022-09-25T02:29:09+00:00

He should treat them with the same level of human decency and respect is what people mean. But he should adapt his communication and behavior strategy so that they don't talk past each other, if that's a better answer to the question. She should do the same. Their goal is to meet in the middle and each gender should do their half to understand where the other is coming from.

The difference is that "normal" thoughts that men/women have are read as insulting by the other gender, so some things just don't need to be said.

pikecat · 2022-09-25T04:56:44+00:00

Every individual is different. I treat everybody a bit different, depending on their character and personality. Not on purpose, it's just naturally adapting to different people.

k_aevitas · 2022-09-25T05:13:48+00:00

I used to have a female friend who was really pretty but she had zero sexual game or energy. She'd talk to everyone like someone would talk to the mailman, some grandmother, a cashier or some random passerby. She was chronically single and im not too surprised that seems to be why. I mean I didn't really see how she spoke to a man she was truly interested in but even then I could tell she couldn't bring herself to do it. It's not always about looks that's when I realised people really are about energy and when someone gives out zero sexual intent it's a serious turn off. she's also really introverted so combining that men weren't really attracted to her in that way it seems.

Similarly if a guy treats a girl like his 'bro' it's extremely off putting and a turn off, if not to just straight up insulting. It also depends on the context obv but don't do that in a dating situation. Women do expect the man to put in the effort to court her properly with some sexual /romantic tension if the intention is to date and get to know each other more for a sexual romantic relationship. If your meeting a female friend or classmate that's diff

2022-09-25T05:52:31+00:00

Absolutely not. I really pay no extra care in how I treat men but I would go out of my way to treat women well, it just goes back to old world concepts like chivalry and honor. Women and men just aren't the same no matter how you cut it, with lads I'd be maybe a little more crude, competitive, blunt, etc. None of that shit is good for dealing with women so different approaches are needed.

LotBuilder · 2022-09-25T06:01:15+00:00

Why is everyone intent on making things as complicated as possible. Be attractive and don’t be weird. The end.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-09-25T06:14:54+00:00

Well, not if he doesn't date men. You should treat someone you're dating as someone you're dating, which is often similar to friends but often different. In general, you should treat women who you date the same way you'd treat men who you date if you were bisexual.

Silver_Switch_3109 · 2022-09-25T06:15:25+00:00

I don’t think women like being insulted.

sparklyyblueberryy · 2022-09-25T13:35:41+00:00

Actually no, because men can be really harsh and mean and competitive and so on when talking to each other. What we mean is that We want to be treated with the same basic human dignity and respect.

darkvalleys · 2022-09-25T15:09:22+00:00

No. You guys structure your same sex interactions specifically to avoid intimacy and sex.

RedPill115 · 2022-09-25T15:31:40+00:00

Many women have bragged to me that when they were younger they would use some 3rd party as an excuse for not doing things without directly turning the person down. "I told them my wouldn't let me" when she was in high school. The tone for them is that this shows they were smart and powerful.

If men tell me a similar story it's one of shame and humiliation, they were forced to invoke a 3rd party as an excuse because they didn't have the standing to turn it down down directly.

You can't treat these groups the same or you'll offend or be incompetent with at least 1 of them.

Swapsta · 2022-09-25T16:47:57+00:00

ruboyuri · 2022-09-25T19:53:35+00:00

No. Male socializing is traditionally homophobic. That type of posturing and avoidance is not helpful in romantic interactions

RocinanteCoffee · 2022-09-26T16:08:00+00:00

I mean I'm bi and I do not treat women that differently than I treat men, the changes in my behavior are based on the individual and our distinct dynamic, not their gender.

theholyterror1 · 2022-09-26T20:55:06+00:00

At one point I treated women the same as I treated men. I made the same jokes, acted the same way, played the same games, and it was proclaimed I was too rough and didn't know how to treat a woman and I was a jerk. Granted it was when I was still in school but still I think it counts for something.

Edit: all in all, ladies idk how you think men treat each other but we are pieces of shit to each other but with the understanding that your male friend telling you to eat shit and die is is actually love.

Title	Should a man, in dating, treat women just like he treats men?
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Date	September 25, 2022 1:13 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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Men and women must treat each other all the same: with plain, simple human decency. As simple as that.