From r/relationships: Behold the glorious shitstorm that occurs when a woman asks for an honest physical assessment from a man and a man is dumb enough to give it to her.

lesbianDREAMS · 2014-04-10T06:47:19+00:00

Boyfriend gets turned off when he sees her naked
Girl asks what she already knows
Boy tells the truth
Boy is instantly an asshole for not lying to her face

This girl wanted to be lied to.

They're saying he's immature for not being tactful and for using numbers to describe her (lol) but she's just as immature for trying to fish for compliments to fix her damaged ego.

henry589 · 2014-04-10T05:41:52+00:00

Yeah. Fuckin YEARS!

Men go through rejection and being put down every fucking day with women. And this bitch and her huge ego experience a liiiiiittle poke and wham! INTERNET! THIS BOY TODAY! HE SAID I WAS A 7 OR 8! BOOHOO! MAKE ME FEEL BETTER! GIVE ME THE ATTENTION I KNOW I DESERVE! GIVE ME MY BIRTHRIGHT!!

Fuck off, cunt. Grow up. It's all a part of life.

Aerobus · 2014-04-10T05:24:43+00:00

I'm more wondering why you would date a guy who thinks like that about women (rating them by numbers)?

cleans eyeglasses

(rating them by numbers)

Is this person for real? Literally every guy I know uses a number system to rate women. Guess the OP shouldn't date any man then.

bradyo2 · 2014-04-10T09:52:55+00:00

I can't see the log cause it's blocked at work, but I'll share a similar story:

Me and my flatmates were sat in the kitchen pre drinking before a night out. 2 of them had minor history with each other, and we thought it would be funny to both say what they rate each other out of 10 at the same time, (Bear in mind the girl has a boyfriend here). On the count of 3 they both say their number. The girl rates the guy an 8, he rates her a 7. She immediately gets up and leaves and spends the rest of the night crying in her room, whilst the girls tend to her.

Girls can't handle the truth.

godstriker8 · 2014-04-10T06:17:14+00:00

I had no idea that people have such a problem with a 10 point scale. Almost everyone I've ever met, both men and women, would rate the opposite sex on a scale.

redpillschool · 2014-04-10T09:09:41+00:00

To be fair that guys response what quite ridiculous. What did he expect to be the reaction?

But if the roles were reversed the women would be like "aww did we hurt your man feels?"

Geryon667 · 2014-04-10T07:46:37+00:00

Just happened to me. Russian girl who was beautiful 6 years ago gained a bunch of weight and got a big ass and a gut.

I've got 4 local Asian girls as plates, so am not too concerned about banging her. She asks me if she's prettier than the local girls, I tell her no and why. She tells me that there's something wrong in my brain for finding fat unattractive

I tell her that I find that a bit insulting, so she continues for a long while. I'm silent. She then calls me a jerk and unfriends me. :)

So yes, it's not very well appreciated by the unattractive girls. :)

werarfsfe · 2014-04-10T07:09:27+00:00

What the fuck is wrong with a 1-10 scale for PHYSICAL attractiveness?

sh1v · 2014-04-10T07:46:54+00:00

I dunno what the fuck kind of game that guy was trying to run. I think he was shocked by the gigantic mole on her tit or some shit and just blurted his thoughts out without really thinking. He probably wasn't interested in fucking her at that point anyway.

It's funny, the hamsters in the comments though. They're essentially pissed off at the guy for not lying / disguising his feelings, even though r/relationships is supposedly big on honesty. White knights everywhere man.

CarlsPudding · 2014-04-10T10:07:23+00:00

Uh oh. It sounds like someone used a padded push-up bra to hide deflated tits.

Varrian · 2014-04-10T07:12:07+00:00

I noticed she used a shit ton of "I feel" to start her sentences. Just goes to show that emotion is a woman's primary mode of thought.

hellostan · 2014-04-10T05:32:09+00:00

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sweetleef · 2014-04-10T10:07:43+00:00

"How do I look" is hamsterish for "Tell me I'm beautiful". Always.

monsieurhire2 · 2014-04-10T13:04:38+00:00

Jesus Christ! It's like TRP is reading my frontal lobes or something. I was just given one by a fat cow who I socialize with. I was really busy, and normally I shave my head to get rid of the gray, thinning aspect, but I hadn't for a few days because I was busy making money. Well, fat cow took this as an opportunity to "neg" me.

"You're not taking care of yourself. You need to shave your head. You look so much better that way. You look like someone's dad."

All I could think about was the firestorm of controversy that would be unleashed if I responded in kind, because fat cow would run and tell everyone how mean I am, strategically omitting her own provokation. So I resolved to ignore her in perpetuity, seeing as how she gave me the perfect justification to.

GushyWetWet15 · 2014-04-10T13:26:33+00:00

make no mistake gentleman this guy is as beta as they come. 23 years old, knew this girl for a few years (didn't make any moves), finally asks her out, waits another month before even taking his fucking clothes off and in the end cockblocking himself anyways. yeah the girl's hamstering but fuck me this guy sounds even more pathetic. also he still rates her a 7-8 and still hesitates to fuck? lol

again remember he didn't even see her naked until this past weekend, let that sink in for a moment lmao

Teeth_of_Lions · 2014-04-10T08:01:26+00:00

I wonder if the guy's reaction changed gradually...you know...when she removed her push-up bra, did a one-legged hop dance out of her Spanx.

Gstreetshit · 2014-04-10T13:46:48+00:00

Based NeoDestiny

Entrefut · 2014-04-10T08:19:04+00:00

Lol that first comment... "Omg how could anyone ever use a number to define someone!!!???" Wait for it... Wait for it... RELEASE THE HAMSTER "That definitely bumps his personality down to a 5 level."

t21spectre · 2014-04-10T10:52:29+00:00

Hell hath no fury like a fat girl.

tyrantrising · 2014-04-10T12:36:13+00:00

This situation happened to me at school earlier this year. A Girl (about a 5- would be a 6/7 if she lost weight) asked whether I found her attractive or not, and I said "not really" (Said offhandedly I didn't know at the time she was being serious) .

I ended up being brought up in front of the Head about what I said- apparently I'm supposed to be more body positive. Body positive? I don't even know what that is meant to mean!

Then the Girl comes up to me and asks for an apology, I refused (held frame mainly by pointing out that she had kept saying before that, that she never fuck me- not that I've ever asked) and she then apologized for what she had done and admitted it was an overreaction.

Luckily she is leaving the school in a few weeks so I'll never have to see her again.

JoeyScagnetti · 2014-04-10T22:00:42+00:00

Lol like chicks don't rate guys on attractiveness? Hamsters flying off the wheel and into orbit.

colovick · 2014-04-10T07:26:36+00:00

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GM3d6 · 2014-04-10T09:11:33+00:00

Wow. I think if I keep coming here I'm going to seriously think all women are some level of retarded. If I was new to Reddit I wouldn't believe this was real but I know all to well real people wrote this real garbage.

kruddthemessiah · 2014-04-10T08:57:56+00:00

If the guy had padded his muscles or worn shape wear / compression clothing to hide his weight or had bad skin etc there would be no issues with a woman saying what he said.

Kekeramitu · 2014-04-10T11:19:44+00:00

No surprise that one of the outraged commenters is called Princessjanie - she was probably disappointed when some sexist asshole called her anything less than a 10 as well.

theragingwalrus · 2014-04-10T11:20:55+00:00

NeoDestiny tearing them a new one, damn just yesterday I watched him stream League of Legends. Reddit sure is a small place.

NiftyDolphin · 2014-04-10T14:40:44+00:00

Female rating system is binary:

Hot. Would fuck.
How much money does he make?

psi_storm · 2014-04-10T16:00:55+00:00

Rating a girl in front of her out of 10 is a lose-lose situation for any man. If you don't rate her high enough she gets offended and if you rate her too high she gets an undeserved ego boost. Don't play a game you can't win.

garlicextract · 2014-04-10T17:47:35+00:00

If a girl told me "you know, I thought you were a physical 10 but now that your clothes are off, I can see blemishes on your skin, and your dick is just average size... you're a 7 or 8. Your personality is a 10 though"

I'd be FUCKING STOKED. Fuck yeah bitch, come get some of this 7/10 average dick right here!

DarkCircle · 2014-04-10T10:31:00+00:00

I don't get what is wrong with a scale. Surely some people are more attractive than others?

An 8 in looks and a 10 in personality is pretty damn good. Anyone with a 10 in looks would be somewhere around a 5 in personality and not ltr material.

2014-04-10T13:49:11+00:00

The lesson is: if you're a mewling weakling who meekly tries to be funny or foolishly tells the truth, you will be treated like a creep and shamed by women asking these kinds of questions.

However if you're attractive, confident and strong and you tell the truth with a pinch of sarcasm or make an agree and amplify joke about her appearance, then she'll giggle and make a face and love you even more.

Lesson: It's only Ok to be playful if you're attractive. So be attractive. See you at the gym/track guys.

BluepillProfessor · 2014-04-10T17:03:13+00:00

Illustrates the central social problem: Men are divided and confused. Team woman is unified.

We are losing. Society is losing. Enjoy the decline.

Stayinghereforreal · 2014-04-10T10:57:35+00:00

Yet she will continue to fuck this guy "cuz he's so Hawwt" and her beta orbitor who is her genetic equal will continue to tell her she is sexy when she strips to get his opinion but she won't fuck him because "eewwwww." Hamsters!

Also a man should be able to reverse engineer a girl's real look beneath flattering clothing. Tits propped up by a padded bra have a look. If a girl wears a loose midsection top--muffin top. Cellulite is impossible to predict though.

hairaware · 2014-04-10T12:27:20+00:00

Some women react like that if especially if they've been led to believe they're hot. Some know they aren't. Much more prevalent in women the freakout but happens in men too. This subreddit is turning into a bitch pit.

richardnorth · 2014-04-10T13:38:29+00:00

Most women simply cannot handle criticism, rejection or negative assessments of themselves.

No matter how courteously, diplomatically and carefully the above things are delivered to a woman, she's extremely likely to take it personally and will hold a grudge against you for years, if not forever, and will make it her mission to get back at you at all costs.

zyk0s · 2014-04-10T14:15:22+00:00

Moral of the story: don't be honest with women. They clearly prefer you leaf them on then dump them in a nuclear fashion, without warning or reason. It is after all their MO with men (understandable, since you can't ask for dominance).

SnowCrabThunderDick · 2014-04-10T14:45:47+00:00

Ugh this brings back memories of a girl I fucked with a couple years ago. Waitress at a local bar and grill. All my buddies and I agreed that she was a 9 with clothes on. I get her to my house on the second date and take her clothes off and I almost vomited. I have no idea how she managed to hide such a disgusting body under her clothes. Cottage cheese fat on her ass. Jelly rolls with stretch marks on her gut. Saggy ass pancake titties with gigantic salami nipples. One of her tits seriously hung down about 6 inches lower than the other. I'm not exaggerating this at all; she literally went from a 9 to a 3 when she took her clothes off.

Haraklus · 2014-04-10T15:22:50+00:00

Average (or ugly) guys of r/theredpill, how many times in your life would you say you've received an un-asked-for and unflattering physical assessment from a woman?

God, I'm above average and I still get girls pulling that shit from time to time. It becomes a lot less frequent once you leave school.

Badside · 2014-04-10T15:49:39+00:00

Two things:

1- he really meant "I pictured you as a 8 and you're more of a 5 or 6",

2- who the hell loses interest once the clothes are off? I mean I've seen many boobs that were way less exciting than I would have liked, but to stop for that? Worst case do the deed and then don't call back. Never be THAT honest with a woman.

hashtagpound2point2 · 2014-04-10T16:15:55+00:00

rating women and men is bad enough.

I don't see how it's bad. Even if we didn't have a number scale, it doesn't make people any more or less attractive than how everyone perceives them.

Rating your girlfriend to her face is both nasty and fucking stupid.

I agree with this. The guy had an inexperienced girl within his grasp and blew it because he expected a better body or something (maybe her bra was more padding than support or one of the other dozen ways that women have to disguise faults).

He is literally a stupid idiot.

There's no way this comment wasn't written by a woman.

2014-04-10T18:13:22+00:00

Top comment:

I'm more wondering why you would date a guy who thinks like that about women (rating them by numbers)? I say fuck him and his expectations. His comment dropped his personality down to the 5 level, and he's now not worthy of your time.

What the fuck? Men who rate women by numbers are assholes who then drop down to an arbitrary numerical level? Pick one and stick with it.

fuckeh · 2014-04-10T23:10:26+00:00

I guarantee that girl was wearing things like tight jeans and a push-up bra, her boyfriend was inexperienced and probably expected her to look absolutely banging naked.

This got me thinking about if you turned the table. What if her boyfriend stuffed his pants to make it look like he had a massive penis, then they get naked and she sees it's just an average one and she's visibly disappointed. That wouldn't make her mean or anything, in fact I'd say he's a dink for misrepresenting himself. I'm pretty sure r/relationships would crucify him for that. Nobody would be saying she's undeserving of love for being disappointed that's for sure.

BigSmeez · 2014-04-10T07:21:30+00:00

3/4 Liar Liar. Reading the comments is so fucking irritating.

2014-04-10T09:22:42+00:00

Also I have a strong suspicion of hamstering in her story here. People often exaggerate stories so that they can get the answer they want. For instance if she asked him what he rated her and he said 8 that would be seen as 100% a ok. Or maybe she asks after sex and he says 8 and she's offended.

But instead she expands on the story to be this all including narrative of a guy so turned off by her body he won't even have sex with her, the nerve!

11411181 · 2014-04-10T10:29:36+00:00

Aaaaaaaaand I accidentally did this with the last girl I dated for a while.

I rated my housemate as a 6/10 (composite rating of personality and looks) who looks nice - and then the girl I'm dating asks me straight out if she rates the same as her. I mumble "yes" due to being preoccupied with scooping some ramen out of my bowl and followed up with "I find you attractive, absolutely!"

Shit hit the fan real quick, and her friends never let her forget it once even after explaining it.

2014-04-10T14:09:49+00:00

Ya know, the girl was taking it pretty well. It's the commenters that are overeacting.

_Nymphae · 2014-04-10T14:51:18+00:00

Why aren't these threads linked in here?

mikelovesvegas · 2014-04-10T16:18:19+00:00

He's playing the long game. Either she's going to spend years improving herself so that she can live up to his 'unreasonable expectations', or she's going to turn into a land whale that he's better off without.

vandaalen · 2014-04-10T16:22:49+00:00

The story smells fishy. I don't believe it. Either a troll or not the way it really happened.

SpaceHarpy · 2014-04-10T12:50:35+00:00

The funny thing is, I know I'm attractive. I know I'm not THE most attractive, but above average. But I don't care too much. I'm happy with the way I look. So yeah I've had honest assesments I've Also realised the assessment depends on the taste of the man in question. So overall, I don't particularly care.

Gucci_guwop · 2014-04-10T15:53:05+00:00

I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark and say that despite all the drama she has stirred, she isn't going to leave him. For a guy to call on a shit test of that caliber, you gotta have your game tight. A lesser man would have lied to her in fear of losing her.

organyc · 2014-04-10T06:56:39+00:00

Cause apparently that doesn't happen so much to women,

i would like to counter that by saying that women do receive unwarranted/unflattering assessments from men. what about negging?

Title	From r/relationships: Behold the glorious shitstorm that occurs when a woman asks for an honest physical assessment from a man and a man is dumb enough to give it to her.
Author	EeeeeeevilMan
Upvotes	133
Comments	196
Date	April 10, 2014 4:51 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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