CMV: "Don't talk about fight club" not because people don't want you to improve, because The Red Pill is creepy as Hell.

Archwinger · 2016-11-02T16:24:50+00:00

You refrain from talking about The Red Pill because people shame losers.

Most people get it. They're socially apt, well-adjusted, and figure out relationships well enough to get girls and get laid with at least some success. Most people don't need shit explained to them, because most people pick things up through observation and experience.

If you tell people that you read about how to get laid on the internet, you've outed yourself as a socially inept loser who doesn't get it. It's weird and "creepy" when people put normal social dynamics, that normal people already know and understand, into writing.

The very notion that a loser man is out there, trying to trick women into thinking he's not a loser by emulating social behaviors that get other men laid, creeps people out. But the fact is, everybody does this to some extent. When you go out and meet people you want to fuck, you hold your farts in and put on your best behavior in an effort to make a good impression. You don't act like a loser, even if you are one.

But put in writing "acting like this will get you laid", and it's weird to most people.

NalkaNalka · 2016-11-02T14:52:00+00:00

I talk about red pill concepts in real life all the time. I also post them on facebook. It's never been a problem. There might rarely be some whineknight that comes out of the woodwork to whine about it but by and large most people find it insightful. Of course the key it to know how to present your ideas in ways that are not spergy or 3edgy5me.

I have also found that the higher up you go in the business world people are more receptive to red pill ideas.

FairlyNaive · 2016-11-02T14:38:39+00:00

You can change the wording of 70% rp material and most people would agree with it.

SoupTyrant · 2016-11-02T14:48:55+00:00

people aren't shaming you to stay beta, it's just, truth be told, creepy as hell to a lot of people.

people aren't shaming you

here, let me shame you.

Man, same sentence and everything.

Sepean · 2016-11-02T19:40:57+00:00

If you want to fit in you shouldn't mention your atheism among religious folk (or vice versa), or your anarchism among statists (or vice versa), or your red pilliness among bloopers (or vice versa).

Your point is?

Wumpus1 · 2016-11-02T15:07:51+00:00

Hmm CYV?

Well when you're attractive enough you can say pretty much whatever you want. It works in RL but here on the internet people don't realize they are replying to a white God.

Falkner1992 · 2016-11-02T18:10:28+00:00

For the record, I'm not a RPer. In fact, in keeping with our current theme of Pareto Principles, I'd say TRP is 80% rage-fueled nonsense and 20% potentially useful advice, if you can interpret it correctly.

That being said, that is not why discussion of TRP or its principles is not allowed in polite society. One of the great modern taboos is that you are simply not allowed to criticize women or their behavior. And it's a taboo TRP breaks, frequently.

That's why, even though I'm not a RPer myself, I still tacitly endorse TRP. Even if a lot of their criticism of women lacks merit, I don't like the idea of having an entire demographic of people that's completely immune to it in any form

vorverk · 2016-11-02T15:54:51+00:00

The red pill is now nearly main stream. The same principles, rules and discussions are being discussed in various subreddits, mainstream podcasts, shows, dating advices etc. Feminists are getting laughed at everywhere. The only thing TRP subreddit has unique is angry phasers that need to go through that phase to grow up and TRP specific language.

So no, the 1st rule is there so you're not marked as misogynist before you get your point across. If you avoid TRP lingua and tone down the angry part, TRP is accepted by most.

DucksCanDance · 2016-11-02T15:12:06+00:00

BP people tend to think everything is creepy if it's even a tiny bit unconventional or slightly outside social norms

Example: I'm hanging out with a friend, he's complaining about his crappy love life. I tel him let's go out this weekend, we can meet some girls at the bar. He tears into me about how creepy it is to hit on girls in bars and what if they don't want me to approach them, etc.

And that was the last time I tried to help

Edited to add: this is before I'd ever heard of "the red pill" at all

DarkLord0chinChin · 2016-11-02T14:41:34+00:00

Why should I care what BPers think of redpill? Creepy, rapey, or Patriarchy-perpetuaty, I couldn't give two shits. I just don't want trouble

SilentLurker666 · 2016-11-02T18:24:41+00:00

The Red Pill is weird, creepy, strange, rapey(pick your shaming word) and that is why so many people are against The Red Pill and why you can't go around in real life preaching it and if you talk about it on most subreddits you'll be downvoted to oblivion.

Those are your feelings talking.

I used to not understand The Red Pill, back in my bloopier days(to this very day I still don't understand it) but I do understand it more, and I can admit, it does get a lot of unjustified flak.

That's you realizing position from the other side of the argument

But it doesn't matter!!!

Feelz > Reelz

Perhaps you should really debate the merit of RP over facts and ask yourself why despite you realized that RP may have merit, you still feel that it's 'weird, creepy, strange, and rapey'.

Because feelings and emotions has no place in a logical and rational debate.

drok007 · 2016-11-02T18:34:06+00:00

Yeah this why I dont really feel the need to defend RP. I just make fun of BPers because normal people find their explanations to be retarded. That's really all this is, one side looks too creepy, the other side too retarded or out of touch with reality.

redmachines · 2016-11-02T15:42:39+00:00

No it's because of white knights. When they hear it, they sham those men and convince women that they should be sleeping with them instead of the RP insisting that they aren't assholes like those misogynists.

Apexk9 · 2016-11-02T20:03:16+00:00

You don't talk about it because it's pointless there is nothing to gain.

kick6 · 2016-11-02T22:24:46+00:00

If TRP is weird because jargon, then every single sub, every hobby, every activity, and every profession is weird because jargon. And if everything is weird....nothing is.

darksoldierk · 2016-11-03T00:34:15+00:00

But, here is the thing, TRP isn't weird. I mean, I guess if you find that someone telling you to work out, learn to dress nice, learn to talk to women etc weird, but most people don't.

I don't know what world you live in, but your the one that sounds strange. TRP works, and it works better than most other ideas out there because the red pill tells you to focus on you. Even if you have 0 success with women, you will still end up in a better place. It all depends on how you define your "shaming word". How is TRP "rapey" for example? Is it rapey because it tells men to seek out one night stands? I mean, I've never seen TRP tell men to drug a woman and fuck her while she was asleep, have you? Hell, I've never even seen TRP say "get her drunk then fuck her".

LUClEN · 2016-11-03T01:55:32+00:00

This isn't necessarily true. There are other conversation rules similar to this: Don't talk about religion; don't bring up politics. RP is polarizing af, just like religion and politics. Refraining from discussing it doesn't necessarily have to be because it is inherently "creepy", it could be due to the polarizing nature of discussing such contentious sexual strategy.

Transmigratory · 2016-11-03T14:04:57+00:00

RP isn't creepy, it is just people hear it and they don't understand it and draw conclusions which are incorrect. I'd list examples, however I believe you are a perfect exemplar of that point.

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Title	CMV: "Don't talk about fight club" not because people don't want you to improve, because The Red Pill is creepy as Hell.
Author	SipsSparklingWater
Upvotes	28
Comments	256
Date	November 2, 2016 2:26 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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