Girl asks if guys would look past her 60+ partners by age 23 and accept her for a long term relationship, or is she should lie about her body count.

internet_terrorist · 2015-10-12T14:37:54+00:00

I've been single for a long time

I think "a long time" for females is significantly different from what men consider, "a long time".

bat_mayn · 2015-10-12T15:41:49+00:00

So tired of always reading stuff like this. It always boils down to this:

"Should I be honest"

We all know you won't be, so why bother pretending like you would do otherwise? That sociopathic validation, as long as she can turn the wheel and get pity validation, she can make excuses for her lies.

I've started meeting women like this, who've had well over a dozen sexual partners before they leave their teens. It's all the same, always seeking validation, always making excuses. A popular excuse today is, "Well the average person has X many partners at so-and-so age". Because its the unwashed, uneducated, untethered horde of stupidity that should dictate how responsible you are, right? Humans will stoop to any low provided it is popular with the 'horde'. That lovely degenerate Progressiveness™. The Modern Women™ is shockingly inept at taking responsibility for her own actions, and doesn't seem to have any concept of what honor, integrity or modesty is.

Lord_shitmeister · 2015-10-12T14:53:02+00:00

Pair bonding is dead with this one. Only The Rock would be alpha enough for her and her 60+ partner count would turn him off. Another one that got fucked by Sex and the City.

baystreetballing · 2015-10-12T14:02:45+00:00

Dont look at me resume even though ive been fired 60+ times by age 23.

RedKnight1990 · 2015-10-12T15:53:23+00:00

Fascinating. The question she is asking is "How do I deal with this high body count" instead of "Why did I rack up this body count and what did I get out of it?"

Now calm down, scholars, I know you all have the answers. The focus here is the sophism of a woman. A lack of reflection of their actions and a focus on getting what they want out of a man. Be leery of the woman who uses "self expression" as a blank check that allows her to do whatever (and whoever) she wants with no consequences.

NaughtyFred · 2015-10-12T15:22:03+00:00

I was on another subreddit a few days ago reading about a 28 year old woman who had fucked 150 guys, that's a glimpse into the future of the woman OP is referring to.

Can't link to it due to Automoderator.

Edit: Been made aware of archive.is, so heres the post if you'd like to read it

LastRevision · 2015-10-12T15:03:47+00:00

A blue pill man will gladly buy the pair of damaged Nike's on discount, and when the excitement of a great deal fades, he's going to suffer all the typical "promiscuous girlfriend blue pill anxieties" that clutter all the blue pill relationship subreddits every day.

Henemil · 2015-10-12T15:15:32+00:00

Yeah the stats break down like : 3% rejected me 13% I rejected them 3% I moved away 81% were one night stands/casual

You know she is a sloot when she has to divide them into percentages, hahahaha.

RageLife · 2015-10-12T14:12:27+00:00

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Assassin1476 · 2015-10-12T15:49:36+00:00

This chick could be as sexy as Megan Fox and amazing as Wonder Woman and that still wouldn't stop my stomach for hurting after hearing 60+/23.

PM_Me_For_Drugs · 2015-10-12T16:47:17+00:00

I don't know how many times this needs to happen for women to get a clue.

You can go out and screw as many people as you want but actions have consequences. When you're done being a whore that nice guy probably wont want to work for and settle down with a girl who gave it up freely and often before.

Just like you have a choice, so does he! You can chose to sleep around with 100 guys, and he can chose not to date you.

Archwinger · 2015-10-12T17:18:20+00:00

The best viable sexual strategy for a slut is lying.

Because as we all know, there's nothing wrong with having sex. The slut's done nothing wrong, right? I mean, she made lots of decisions, but it was her right to make them, she didn't hurt anybody, everybody consented, and since it was her right to make them and she didn't break any laws, it is absolutely wrong for society or men or anybody to have any kind of opinion or judgment about this or for her to suffer any sort of consequence, right?

But men are stupid and insecure misogynists who are going to slut-shame even when it's so clearly wrong, and no woman should have to go through that, and no man should be allowed to do that. So really, the only morally correct course of action would be for her to lie to future men that she dates. Because her past wasn't wrong, her past doesn't matter, and it's wrong for people to judge her about it, so really, lying helps make the world a more right place instead of a more wrong place. It would practically be a sin not to lie!

And it's not even really a lie since she's not the same person any more anyway. That's all in the past, and the more mature, more serious her isn't like that any more. So she's not really lying about who she is right now anyway. This is win-win-win.

Knerd5 · 2015-10-12T17:00:55+00:00

From "have used it as a form of coping" to "seeking therapy is crap" in two sentences. Hamster on overdrive

Tarnsman4Life · 2015-10-12T18:26:51+00:00

What others have pointed out, it is not in and of itself the 60 partner count, though that is pretty high. The real red flag are the personal issues that would lead a 23 year old woman to have taken that many cocks in such a short period of time. The OP basically describes herself as a sex addict, which is basically what the CC is, sex fueled self-serving narcissism. Even more alarming is that out of those 60 guys not one of them has found the level of mutual attraction and compatibility to settle down into a relationship with her. I would bet 95% if not all are pump and dumps. This tells me the only thing this woman has to bring to any relationship Is her body, which is ever decreasing in value with each new cock she takes.

The woman is unstable and one “stressful day” away from cheating. The good news is Betas are increasing into cuckholding so this woman will without a doubt find a beta when she hits the wall, maybe even one that lets her continue her sexual compulsions.

ShitfacedBatman · 2015-10-12T16:59:21+00:00

You can't break the mold. Partner count of 60 by age 23? Pretty obvious being a slut is what she was genetically designed for. God gave her "slut-pussy." Either that or her parents robbed her by being really shitty parents.

Tenebris_Rubrum · 2015-10-12T22:46:19+00:00

The top comment:

In my experience, girls with high numbers have something about their personality that makes them hard to date. They're insecure or have a temper, etc. So I don't feel the number is the problem, the problem is that your high number tells me at least 60 guys did not want to date you.

luciansolaris · 2015-10-12T19:48:47+00:00

An N count of 60 by the early 20s probably seems like a staggering number for many of us (that was my first gut level reaction), because we relate to this as men. Just think of the level of effort and accomplishment it would take for a guy to rack up numbers like that during the same time frame.

An average guy would have to approach and game fuck tons of women in 5 – 7 years to accumulate an N count of 60 by his early 20s. Unless you’re a rock star who has a steady stream of groupies chasing after him, this would require almost exclusive focus on chasing pussy and a really high close rate.

Let’s apply this to a woman. An N count of 60 does seem exceptionally high, but let’s look at an example of a woman with an N count of 30 in her early 20s. I think most of us would agree that 30 dicks by her early 20s would be a huge red flag for a potential LTR.

Assuming 8 years of sexual activity, to reach thirty dicks a woman would have to average fewer than four new partners per year, about one new dick every 2 – 3 months. Assuming she’s approached by at least a couple of new men per day, she’d have to end up fucking about ½ of 1% of these guys to get to 30 notches in 8 years. In today’s hypergamous, sex-positive, swipe-right to fuck hookup culture, this probably more of the rule rather than the exception.

PM_Me_For_Drugs · 2015-10-12T20:23:55+00:00

Now I have a lot of experience, a lot of sexual history (no diseases or pregnancies tho, woo hoo safe sex)

I always like when girls throw the safe sex thing it. It's so incredibly easy to convince a girl to go without a condom that there's no way someone with a 60+ count has used one more than 20 times.

What_The_Shoe · 2015-10-12T15:53:07+00:00

60+? How? HOW? How the fuck do you hop from cock to cock that quickly?

DaphneDK · 2015-10-12T19:03:33+00:00

Besides it's just extremely unattractive. Such a high number is bound to make a person jaded and cynical. There's nothing, sexual wise, she hasn't tried before - or more likely tried fifty times before with ten other dudes. Nothing is new and exiting.

TankVet · 2015-10-12T16:13:50+00:00

The top comment was solid. It's not that a man would have a problem with you having 60 partners, it's that they would be worried about what kind of life and behavior led her to 60 partners.

trplurker · 2015-10-12T14:25:43+00:00

On a completely side note, there is a path a "prior slut" can take to "win" so to speak. Not likely to happen, but one does exist. She's gotta take a hard look at herself and realize that her life choices have had a very bad effect on her value, while she's still very young and has plenty to offer, she's going to have to make it up in other area's.

Firstly, she's gotta be extremely selective, and I don't mean "make him wait X weeks / months" type selective, shes gonna have to purposely choose a guy she knows isn't super sexy / hot. She is going to have to "date down" because her worth is no longer what it was pre-slut (so it's really more like date-realistic). Then she's going to have to be honest about her past, upfront. And then do all that crazy shit with the new guy, bringing him extra girls and basically giving him unconditional access to her sex.

That's the bare minimum, which most girls will outright refuse to do and thus they will lose in the long term.

mrTang5544 · 2015-10-12T18:46:10+00:00

watched the the entire clip of that insecure guy. Cannot believe these people exists! Dude was literally arguing FOR having his girl fuck other dudes. Wow.

mrheh · 2015-10-12T16:28:22+00:00

Black Philip is in almost every single female post in that thread. I keep seeing comments like this "Of course I do like new people, but not as much as sex with someone I care about" Women's argument that they enjoy sex with strange as much as men is shown to be bullshit yet again. Men enjoy new and fresh much more than fucking someone they care about/ "making love"

TheBronzeYi · 2015-10-12T23:29:33+00:00

I'm calling fake or fucking psycho or both.

I've read 80% of her comments. She is basically Reddit's dream girl with one major flaw... And she is trying too hard to please every single person in that thread. Finally, her story has several inconsistencies but I guess they could be explained away. I kinda wanna see if she changes parts of it later on or deletes something just because I have nothing better to do.

Could I date someone with 60 previous partners: No.

MadChestHairYuKnight · 2015-10-13T02:50:25+00:00

I'm willing to bet many 23 year old prostitutes haven't even had 60 partners.

bullseyed723 · 2015-10-12T15:25:41+00:00

I read "60+ partners by age 23" and fell out of my chair.

Someone put this girl in the Guinness Book of World Records.

hannibalbarcad · 2015-10-12T17:53:43+00:00

An obvious trend that is commonly observed from past to post modern:

In ancient times, an attractive woman's virginity is worth gold; the ability to pair-bond and motherhood are valued.
In post modern times, it is all about being the biggest slut because: "You go GIRL!!!" and "We must not oppress the poor wimimz sexuality."

It is an interesting direction civilization is moving towards. I am curios of how much "Progressiveness" we will be getting in the next ~10 years. Will the fall of decadent Rome repeat itself?

2015-10-12T16:53:15+00:00

That would be like a guy getting engaged 60+ times and his fiance backing out. It definitely raises some questions.

prism1020 · 2015-10-12T23:38:38+00:00

So what is a suitable "number"?

MeltzerDriver · 2015-10-13T02:33:39+00:00

She could be a great side chick, maybe even a main chick (who eventually has to accept that I'll have side chicks) -- but lol @ ever being monogamous with or marrying her.

n0oo7 · 2015-10-13T02:40:20+00:00

"For those here saying theirs nothing wrong with her body count, and you'd still fuck her. Your not getting it. Its totally fine to hookup with this chick or even make her a plate, but you'd have to be a huge beta chump to commit to her ands thats what she was asking for in her post."

I don't think you get it. I mean you are 100% right, but are we REALLY supposed to tell that shit to her TO HER FACE? I mean shes asking for advice, what benefit would any human male (redpiller or not) have to tell her that she could never date an alpha. It feels like going to a child cancer center to play with the dying kids and when they ask you "can I be a basketballplayer when I grow up?" you straight up tell them that "no because you are going to die in two weeks." wouldn't that just convince her to lie about her sexual history from now on?

nuesuh · 2015-10-13T04:25:59+00:00

Doesn't matter if you've been fired or quit. 60 jobs by the age of 23 is just... I don't even know what to say.

It tells you something about the person. She even admited that her shrink told her to "get help".

Luckyluke23 · 2015-10-13T04:45:11+00:00

For those here saying theirs nothing wrong with her body count, and you'd still fuck her. Your not getting it. Its totally fine to hookup with this chick or even make her a plate, but you'd have to be a huge beta chump to commit to her ands thats what she was asking for in her post.

this is the main reason why I'm dislike ( I love this sub really) this sub more and more lately. Once you see this once. you don't really need to be seen 10000000000 times.

women have feels men have logic.

if you don't understand and accept ALL the facts that come with it. Then redpil is gunna be a bad time for you.

dissentforall · 2015-10-13T05:19:20+00:00

"Man, what a response! That actually makes me go a little deeper as well. I've had a huge realization recently that I am pretty insensitive to men's feelings. I have a hard time....and this is going to sound evil....thinking of men as people. Objectification is probably a natural consequence of my past lifestyle. Anyway your opening up is really refreshing and eye-opening. And it makes me think, if I do have a partner, and I do choose to be at least a little honest about my past, I will have to try and make him understand and know why he is special to me. Something tells me it's not going to be easy though...Hey, seriously though thank you for that response."

Above and beyond all the negative statistics and personal experience most guys have with that kind of woman. That statement there is downright comical. Who the fuck openly admits to a type of sociopathy in such a casual manner and then gets offended by answers that condemn her. That's pro level cognitive dissonance

ben0wn4g3 · 2015-10-12T16:46:59+00:00

I liked this:

"Think about what having that many casual sexual partners implies about you: you like having sex. Not only do you like having sex, but you like having sex with a variety of people. Otherwise, why wouldn't you have sex a lot with only a couple people? Ok, so you like having sex with a variety of people, but you want to enter into a presumably monogamous relationship in which you can only have sex with one person. What caused the sudden change? It's not uncommon to hear about a woman who realizes her sexual appeal is fading so she starts to look for a stable relationship while she still has some left. Here's an analogy: Imagine you're a world traveler. You've gone on over sixty trips in the last couple years to different places across the world; some good, some bad. Now, after all your traveling, you're low on resources and you want to settle down in some suburb in Indiana. Did you choose Indiana because it's your favorite place in the world? Possible, but unlikely. You probably chose it because you like it better than Ohio or Illinois or whatever, but there's so many more beautiful places in the world that you would probably live if you could, but often they're just not hospitable to long stays, or you are unable to obtain a visa to live there. It's hard to believe that while living in Indiana, at no point would you wish you were somewhere else you saw during your many travels, and if you had the resources, you'd go back. How do you think it would feel to be Indiana?"

icecow · 2015-10-12T17:36:05+00:00

I don't know that she's a bad person. And kudos to her for not getting any diseases or pregnancies with that count.

With that said a woman with a count like that doesn't appeal to me whatsoever. She lives her life how she wants to, I live mine like I want to.

yaardi · 2015-10-12T16:45:40+00:00

Ever since I swallowed the redpill and started fucking sluts I cared less and less about their body count. Not sure if I'm the only one here, I actually wanted to make a thread about it.

I've had my fair share of hookups since I have been single and I came to realise that some girls have had 10 partners by age 18, some have had 3. Some girls have had 60 (like this girl). Honestly, if you have fun together and are confident in your performance and who you are, should you care?

Of course some sluts ride the cc and cheat on you, but if you have a partner count that is just as high, it's even more impressive, since everyone here knows that getting laid as a guy is way more difficult than getting laid as a girl.

60 is a bit over the top, but I see some guys write a girl off after she has had over 5 sexual partners, if you have had sex with over 5 girls yourself you know that it doesn't necessarily mean a lot.

Just looking for replies and insight here, when I was BP I always wrote girls off if they had over 3 sexual partners at age 18, now I don't give a shit as long as they're fun to be around.

ZioFascist · 2015-10-12T23:34:31+00:00

cant feel bad for this girl..she had her chance with plenty of 'nice' guys when she was having herr fun..now she had to deal with the consequences

St_OP_to_u_chin_me · 2015-10-13T03:32:25+00:00

Holy shit, I would never bring that home not unless I was desperate BETA! lol oh shit that's a whore.

TRPhd · 2015-10-12T19:30:14+00:00

Deception is the only viable strategem for her at this point.

Snivellious · 2015-10-13T00:09:43+00:00

Sir Velociraptor there kills it with the insight "it seems as if all (or most?) of what you bring to a relationship is sex". He offers the usual 'but of course it's all ok' qualifiers, but he nails the core insight that the problem is deeper and more fundamental than her partner count.

60 partners at 23 might be a deal-breaker on its own, but it's still just a symptom of a bigger disease.

2015-10-13T02:22:53+00:00

Imagine this: Your score is over 400. Her score is around 60. Would you care then?

stoned4tennis · 2015-10-13T14:43:36+00:00

I'm new to this sub. So is the common consensus that this stomach is absolutely unfit for a relationship with an alpha solely based on her sexual history. If she was mine, her # of partners would have me questioning her level of commitment. But is it possible for a RP male to be committed to a fallacious woman lol.

jxcel · 2015-10-13T15:45:57+00:00

I'm a 27 year old virgin beta loser, but even I have enough pride to not have any respect for a "woman" who has already had more partners than I will in my life. She's not worth what I pay for porn. And I don't pay for porn.

nubswag · 2015-10-15T05:25:31+00:00

I get it, this hoe probably can't create the pathways in her brain to commit to anyone. But any girl that is remotely attractive 8+ is going to have a relatively high n count, at LEAST above 15, by the age 25, unless she happened to be a long LTR throughout most of her would be early CC days. So this is where we reach a paradox, because if I were to actually date a girl, she needs to be at least 8+, but also we seem to advocate that she should have a 5 or below n count to effectively pair bond. But those will never be a combo an attractive girl would have. (Except for those lucky scenarios like the LTR) So we could argue that we should not date at all. That is a solution. What do you guys recommend are some other solutions to this problem?

spacecase89 · 2015-10-12T19:35:20+00:00

Who hasn't had a complicated relationship with sex? A lot of people. Maybe even most people.

throwawaydefriended · 2015-10-12T22:55:51+00:00

Well let's be real here. I'm sure if most of you were a woman, with the redpill mentality you would agree that yes, she should lie. At the very least if she wants an LTR with an alpha she's actually attracted to.

Sure, it's shitty and is disrespectful to her partner, but instead of hating her for it we should think it's the same as us 'faking it until we make it', aka solipsism. Putting yourself before anyone else. I do so as I am now, and I sure as fuck would do the same if I were a woman.

That's not to say there's no chance of it biting her in the ass later, obviously, but an ex-CC rider being found out and her partner losing interest or getting frustrated, is just the same as a newly-unplugged man's lack of experience being given away making his partner lose her tingles.

But, unfortunately, her best bet would indeed be to lie.

moose_war · 2015-10-13T00:20:00+00:00

I've been single for a long time and I'm deathly afraid that I am just plain unloveable as a slut. So what do you think?

Come on, you know the answer. YOU can't even love yourself and you know it.

In the end though, if there are some "yes"s, I'm good. :)

Ah, just looking for the delusional validation.

2015-10-13T02:33:16+00:00

People here are writing novels. I will be blunt, for sex it doesnt matter if shes had 1000 partners. For commitment and to be the mother of my children, it absolutely matters.

4Iex · 2015-10-13T07:41:23+00:00

One man's trash is another man's treasure.
Learnt this the hard way, if you want any resemblance of femininity and innocence in an ltr 15+ is too many

Newdist2 · 2015-10-12T15:00:38+00:00

60+ guys? How is that even possible?

Nicholas_ · 2015-10-12T20:26:51+00:00

that title

rofl where are the standards nowadays? Slipping ever so slowly and now they're crashing.

occupythekitchen · 2015-10-12T20:01:31+00:00

Idk I would lie to her and say I wouldnt mind because I very much would mind and Id want her honesty not her fakeness. But lets be true, if we are just going for a lay the count doesnt matter what matters is her being in your bed at least once

HapaTee · 2015-10-13T18:25:41+00:00

Can someone give me some insight? I've treated TRP with some give and take. Treating it like a buffet. I feel like if a chick just likes to fuck, but is loyal when she finds one she wants to commit too... then what's the issue? If she's like an all around winner (Not blown out down there, sex is bananas, she can cook, has a good job, takes care of herself, you two have tons of commonalities, etc etc etc), then why does the partner count matter? Is the partner count going to assume she's going to cheat or have aids or something? Or is the point that you can find all of the above, w/out the high count.

2015-10-13T03:58:23+00:00

I congratulate you on your shitpost.

bat_mayn · 2015-10-12T15:05:53+00:00

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Krelious · 2015-10-12T22:49:23+00:00

You so called red pilled guys are fucking retarded a count on sexual partners means absolutely nothing and you people are whats wrong with society. Sex should be free to explore not some bullshit limitation or value to a person. in short fuck you. I'm a guy and I get laid often. You're waste of space because you clearly do not know what life is about beyond your own narrow expectations and desires for how other people should act. Don't like it then do something about it or find someone else dont come here to bitch about your problems or criticize others.

statsfodder · 2015-10-12T23:58:45+00:00

Clarification needed. If it is a bait/switch with a "I'm not like that anymore" line then yeah AWALT and looking for her beta bux.... BUT otherwise I see no issue with a woman that loves sex.. unless you can't keep her interest (insecure fake alpha).. maybe 60 is a high body count for a 23yr old woman and completely unattainable for a virgin neckbeard like OP but i was past that by 20yrs. This sounds more like sooky betas that feel their peen won't be good enough.

Some of you boys need to get over your insecurities and double standards.

Tamazin_ · 2015-10-12T14:02:42+00:00

So what that she had sex with a lot of guys? I've had sex with a ton of women. Does that make me a worse longterm partner in a serious relationship when i find the right one? I sincerely doubt that. Though i will be more selective since i'm more experienced in sex and i know what i feel is good/great sex, but that is just a good thing i guess.

Edit: Wow, got way too much response and reddit-anti-spam filter hits me too hard to reply to you all. I agree with TRP most of the time (and some time it's just hillarious) but i find it that you guys are waaaay to butthurt to even try to discuss anything. More so when my posts get downvoted to hell, not because they're wrong but just because you don't agree xD

TheD_ · 2015-10-12T18:24:04+00:00

Dude needs to get experience; you don't even get mediocre sex making a woman feel shameful.

kinpsychosis · 2015-10-13T02:50:05+00:00

60+ is fucking extreme, that being said, if I meet her and like her, I will date her and see where it goes from there.

I don't believe in the whole "herp derp" she is a slut for sleeping with too many guys.

Maybe she had a phase and is moving on? Maybe she isn't.

2015-10-12T17:39:27+00:00

beta males with cuck fetish

As if an alpha can't have that fetish.

Title	Girl asks if guys would look past her 60+ partners by age 23 and accept her for a long term relationship, or is she should lie about her body count.
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Upvotes	452
Comments	362
Date	October 12, 2015 1:55 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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