The Girlfriend Problem

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October 23, 2017

Western women live their lives the same way they workout. They put a lot of care into their appearance and none into the actual workout. If you have any doubts take a look at your next Red Pill mandated gym sesh. The men are straining. The women are putting forth minimal effort. Everything women do follows this pattern. Neat handwriting and unoriginal ideas. Professional attire and mediocre performance. Everything female is fiat, like a Nigerian Dollar or a North Korean city.

This post isn't about demeaning women. We have enough of that here already and I certainly don't want to encourage it. Nor do I want offend a group of people who spends their time drinking smoothies and photographing their own butt. No. This post isn't about the inferiority of women. It's about preventing female inferiority from contaminating our male superiority, while still fucking them in the pussy.

Because men compete for sex , men must make something of themselves to win sex. Women on the other hand don't, which means that they don't have to mature beyond the emotional irresponsible teenager stage. In practical terms, this means that by bringing a woman into your life you're associating with a loser. I know this sounds harsh but if we apply the male standard to females, clearly they're losers. Imagine an emotional gossipy man who cries all the time, frequently misses work and can't do a pull-up. Loser.

Now imagine that you spent a large amount of time with this emotional gossipy man who giggles at reality television. Don't you think that eventually his habits would rub off on you? Well that's exactly how women drag fun confident men into betahood. It doesn't matter whether she's your wife, girlfriend or fuckhole. The more time you spend together the more you will influence each other. Furthermore, women can and do get pregnant whenever they feel like it. So even if they’re unsuccessful at turning you into a loser, they can always shit out a copy of you and turn your son into a loser. At that point you won't be able to do anything about it and the state will ensure that you are paying for beta bitch loser academy.

As a man you have three options when dealing with women. Option 1, avoid women entirely and become a masterbator, homo or transvestite. Option 2, avoid masculine leadership at which point either you or your children will be dragged into loserhood and/or you have a fat loser terrorizing you whenever you set foot in your own house. Option 3, force your woman to become the best version of herself, by taking the role of her second father. Now obviously, option 3 is a huge hassle and feels like running with a parachute. Teaching your woman to push herself physically and intellectually like a man, is an ongoing challenge to say the least. Regardless of how serious the relationship is, either you impart your values onto your woman or the gay-stream media will. Which one is it going to be?

Option 3 is a colossal burden. Nobody holds women to any kind of standard, so if you do, expect childish tantrums. Maybe she'll leave you and be a loser with an accommodating beta. That's fine, there are plenty to choose from. Just as the clothes you wear are a reflection of you, so are the women you associate yourself with. Hold yourself to a high standard. Hold the women you associate with to a high standard, even if it means losing a few from time to time.

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Title The Girlfriend Problem
Author GayLubeOil
Upvotes 739
Comments 262
Date 23 October 2017 09:46 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet153 points154 points  (17 children) | Copy

This hearkens back to the old RP adage: a good woman is not found - she is made.

Women are always looking for an authority to defer to. It begins with her father, and progresses to her boyfriend once she ages out of the house. If a dominant male never comes along to restrain and focus her, then that authority will be the cackling, self-indulgent hivemind of her rationalizing friends - and that's when she begins her walk down the path of the spinster.

No woman possesses any virtue that was not imparted on her by a male superior. And it is corollary that the number or quality of strong males a woman has in her life can be inferred from her self-restraint.

[–]3LiveAFTSOV40 points41 points  (2 children) | Copy

What about the other old adage, ya can't make a hoe into a house wife?

[–]tk421awol 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

The two are not mutually exclusive.

You can't take a broken down "ho" with a 1000-cock stare and improve to acceptable levels that you would consider for LTR. You CAN however, with a great deal of effort, take a higher quality, lower n-count piece and, with great and continuous effort, improve her into the acceptable realm.

Too many men here are still clinging to blue-tinted lenses and are, deep down, just looking for a way to have sex with more attractive women. They are looking for the shortcut, the magic lines or moves, that will get them pussy. What they don't understand is that once your are truly a RedPill man, you will eventually be turning down pussy.

Once you are truly focused on being the best version of yourself and NOT focused on when you'll dip your wick) you will turn down more pussy than you take. You never forget AWALT, and you assiduously avoid ONEitis, but you also are put off by many of the females who would put out for you. They are not worth your time. This is similar to the conclusion the sad little MGTOWs have reached, except that you've gotten what they can't AND THEN decided to ignore it the majority of females whereas they are still butthurt that they can't get any and aren't man enough to hold what they want for medium to long term.

tldr: the prgression goes from


*post-virgin blue pill

*beginnings of red pill

*Chad lining them up and knocking them down

*A man more concerned with quality than quantity

You can't skip steps, or you end up as incel, mgtow, or reddish guy who still chases pussy and lets that define his life

[–]3LiveAFTSOV0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You csnt guide a womab to change - if she is in frequent contact with her exes u dont "lead her" to stop doing that you dump that hoe lol

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (8 children) | Copy

Case in point, in the middle east like Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, women are little more than property of men, female restraint is more than anywhere else in the world, this is derived from the fact that all men around her are very strong.

How do you account for the hundreds of all-women highschools, colleges and secondary education maintaining their cost effectiveness for female students? If women can't be maintained or grown without men, then wouldn't these all female institutions be a place where women go to deteriorate, at least a little? Suppose a women was raised by a mother, went to an all female highschool, college then post secondary education. Do these schools do something to bring in male superiority (such as through books or other educational materials) without having any males for delivery?

If you can define what that thing is, maybe that can be distilled into a recipe for how to be a man.

[–]2 Senior Endorsed Contributorvengefully_yours5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

in the middle east like Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, women are little more than property of men, female restraint is more than anywhere else in the world, this is derived from the fact that all men around her are very strong

Not sure if you're delusional due to being from that demographic, or if you simply don't know these guys. Muslims are the best followers on the planet, they'll follow blindly right to their death as virgins. Yes there have been some strong leaders, but like every society they are only 5% of the population, the rest are beta and omega followers. Sure they can be fanatical, that's what delusions of afterlife rewards are designed to do.

Keeping your bitch covered and locked up under threat of death isn't strong, that's weak ass shit. Sure you can have four of them, but who wants that much bullshit in your life? Strong capable and confident are not what I would use to describe the overwhelming majority of muslim men, certainly not any more than I would use that to describe the christians who live here. Religion is an opiate, a comfortable lie designed to keep you subservient. By is very nature being part of itmakes you a blind follower who doesn't want to see realty for what it is. It's the other blue pill so many are loathe to take.

[–]1by1is33 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Keeping your bitch covered and locked up under threat of death isn't strong, that's weak ass shit

As opposed to what? That 'she's not yours, it's only your turn' option where you are waiting to get cucked? I would rather choose the locking and covered up option. That's what most alphas do in the animal kingdom.

[–]Raptin0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That's what most alphas do in the animal kingdom

Wrong, mammal alphas don't lock down anything, they just have it because they are biggest and strongest, betas challenge them for mating rights. They don't signal to the betas that they have to challenge them, if they want some of his harem, the females signal that by fervently resisting their advances.

This is more like whats going on, the alpha walks around doing alpha sh*t, and the least beta of the betas walk up and challenge him (and obviously loses, because he's a small beta).

[–]mishasam892 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

except for the females are actually exclusive with the alpha.

With people however, she can have a Chad and still fuck some other guy on the side.. lol

damn, i just realized women are worse than animals when it comes to loyalty... :D

[–]1by1is30 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You did not understand what is being said. The alpha has priority mating rights over females in many mammals, and sole mating rights in some other mammals, such as wolves.. And some species don't even have alphas or betas, such as lions. This is what is referred to as ''locking down''.

And you also overestimate the value of size. Size matters little if some ''beta'' can blow the alpha's brains out from 100 ft. If that's the case, whose the beta? Humans have sailed past the size boat a long time ago. Size is important when guns are unavailable.

[–]kagetsuki230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Simple. in an environment where all women are empowered and act bitchy if you meet a women that act humbly and is from a stable familly, then you know that she resisted the influence of her society. Which make her a uncut diamond.

Look for the women that do not behave and dress like the other, and also what kind of people are their friend.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

"cackling, self-indulgent hivemind of her rationalizing friends"

Just fell out of chair laughing. oh my sides!

[–]gELSK0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

// , I think that's a dynamic even feminists can recognize, at least occasionally, among a certain kind of female.

[–]lazyascheese0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Very good point. How would one do this with a girl? How do you lead her down that improvement path?

[–]TRP VanguardHumanSockPuppet0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

This is a good question. I may turn this into my next post.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I have been playing around with this "making a great woman" lately. I am a single dad and chose to bring a girl into my life at least more than the ONS bitches I have been banging for the past year since I discovered this TRP. (Having a regular, decent chick around who does what I tell her is a woman I don't mind being around my son...and I can fuck her when he is sleeping!!). I still got my eyes open for the ONS hoes...but at least this chick is doing well. I told her to start working out, and making a daily schedule for herself to stick to. We shall see if she complies. But, definately on the same page here with this little "relationship" experiment. One thing is for sure though, and is something I didn't expect: when it comes to a regular piece of ass, TRP toolkit makes these bitches clingy. At least this one lives a half hour away! But so far, being "daddy" to this girl is working far better than anything ive tried so far. It is like I don't even have to try...the chick is hooked (for now).

[–]redlurker9161 points162 points  (11 children) | Copy

Agreed, but there is a fourth option. Just acknowledge women for what they are, enjoy your time with them and the moment they start to rub off on you, ditch them.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points  (2 children) | Copy

It's the "acknowledging what they are" part that men are unable to do. They be looking through their pussy pass lens at these girls and getting all fucked up. Accepting who they are is why we have droves of betas. The current state of the smp is the result if these droves of betas. So, I say, don't just accept women for what they are. As an alpha, it's your job to lead, so lead women to be better. Men used to do this. They'd lead their women to raise their children to be the best people they possibly could be.

Don't just accept thing how they are. Work to actively improve them.

[–]yomo8623 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is not "men" who "do not get it". The basic premise is: a young boy comes to this earth is mainly to be subdued, to slave away first in school, because otherwise you will not become anything (r), then to slave away at a job, basically to provide for a woman, who in return will spend your money freely for stuff, as society bestowed her a holy right to do so thus enabling itself to exist in the first place. And this whole narrative is being sold - no - told as universal truth or even moral imperative, to the young man, his father and his fathers father.

The acknowledgement of us being all not just humans - but mammals with certain pre-set conditions and very selfish goals is so far beyond the average Joe's comprehension or let's say indoctrination that straying away without help is only an option for machiavellians, psychopath and sociopaths, as their basic programming simply does not allow such indoctrination. This is, in my opinion, why we all saw that 'assholes' got the girl, yet, never questioned the underlying reason rather attributing this to 'her phase', 'mistakes' etc.

[–]SPREAD_THE_LOVE_77913 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

The reality is simple. You are strongly influenced by the people you surround yourself with. If you spend a ton of time with your LTR, you most likely will adopt some aspects of her personality.

[–]RedPillCompendium0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Having gone back and forth between LTRs and MGTOW-hood, I partially agree.

There is a time and place for fucking around. Lord knows nothing compares to banging an HB9, being shredded and having high SMV. However, I think it's an often overlooked point that it's hard to maintain this indefinitely. Will you remain the eternal bachelor, never having children, and never really settling down?

If that's your goal, all the more power to you. You do you, brother. However, if not, a lot of fellow TRP'ers could stand to gain by making up their minds as to what the end-goal is. As Steven Covey said: "Plan all the way to the End".

[–]redlurker91 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tough one. To be honest I don't want kids now, but I think I'd like to have a son eventually. The older you are when you have one, the less time you'll have with him so....

[–]aDrunkenWhaler-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Then she's not really your girlfriend, is she?

[–]NMF_48 points49 points  (2 children) | Copy

Just broke up with my GF of like 2 years. I felt the beta slowly seeping in, I was getting extremely passive around her (didn't want to cause a fight), was skipping workouts (to spend time with her of course) and was being financially drained from gifts, trips, etc. Eventually got sick of it and her constant complaining despite basically having it all so I told her its over.

[–]plaaya19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

Same with me buddy. I was in there for 2 years and it was the same thing for me lol. I was ready to put in the work but it was too much work. You end up using a lot of time and money as well. I didn't want to subscribe to her anymore so I ended it. Besides I don't win a lot of money to even self sustain so it would be harder down the line. I think bottom line is that it's a lot of work and to quote tom leykis - the cost of love is too high

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

"subscribe" lmao, thats gold

[–]Tylerdurdenpower37 points38 points  (2 children) | Copy

This is why so few women are funny vs men. They can be boring and dumb as long as they have a hot body. Evolution probably created women and men like this because men had to be creative to bone that girl.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_201632 points33 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's because humor comes from intelligence. It's being able to say witty things about hidden truths.

This is why "toilet humor" and slapstick appeal to toddlers and mouth breathing simpletons. "Muh vagina!!!!!!" The rest of us grow up and develop finer tastes.

You can finish the conclusion on your own.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

[–]RedSkeller79 points80 points  (32 children) | Copy

Honestly enjoyed reading this, concise and to the point. Most chicks at the gym are cardio bunnies and the ones that lift are barely half assing it. Option 3 is a huge pain in the ass and is why I’ve never bothered after my last LTR. It was clear she needed more parenting and guidance and I really didn’t think she was worth the effort. Funny thing is, this was built into marriage years ago and without it we’re seeing their short sighted nature and inability to cope with loneliness.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor63 points64 points  (7 children) | Copy

Option 3 is a huge pain in the ass and is why I’ve never bothered after my last LTR

It wasn't that long ago where option 3 was dead easy. Civilization was built to carry that water, not any individual man. Elaborate shaming structures were everywhere from the church all the way to the Tuesday morning sewing circle and vaginal-bitching-hour. Society flourished on shame and women responded to it.

Now you can't even ugg-out on a Twinkie stuffed fatty without a five hour twitter storm on the patriarchy and body positive ranting.

Enjoy the decline.

[–]ANGRY_ATHEIST31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

This isn't the decline, we're already in the pits. The decline started with no-fault divorce raping which has been around for a generation. We're now reaping the rewards penalties.

Never get married.

I actually have a LTR who's 100% financially dependent on me. That responsibility gives me the authority I need to pull off option #3 quite well. And yes, there are the occasional tantrums. A small price to pay for daily blowjobs imho.

[–]Kommanderdude1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hope she doesn’t live with you. Ever heard of common law marriage? Most states have it or something very similar.

[–]ANGRY_ATHEIST1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The state I live in does not, but that is a very important consideration.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

It wasn't that it was easy, it's that the option wasn't there.

You were busy farming and coal. Mining, if she didn't step up, the house would crumble. She was thing because Twinkies didn't exist.

[–]Endorsed ContributorBluepillProfessor4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Elaborate shaming structures were everywhere

Not to mention the death penalty for cheating and men had confidence (I believe) because they had the power of sex on demand with the wife and the support of men's groups and organizations to deal with their craziness.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points  (22 children) | Copy

Cardio is a good thing to have. You aren't in shape if you don't have cardio, no matter how big you get. You would be amazed at some of the huge guys I went to college hiking groups with. Huge guys, can't even do 10 miles on trail.

Back before I did the AT, I was 5'11, 165, ripped, worked out 3 hours a day, 6 days a week. Lost it on my thru hike. Even with protein shakes and eating right, that was about my max.

I wasn't big, but I was cut and extremely strong. Same with construction, I was 150lb, and could carry 3 sheets of 80lb plywood as far as you wanted it.

Yeah, it is a pain in the ass. Being on campus helps with getting laid, though. But I see what he was talking about in the rec center on campus, every day.

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

People truly misjudge size for strength. My uncle told me a story once of when my father and him were still in their 20's. My father at the time was building our house all from scratch. No contractors, nothing.

Anyway, my father, uncle and their mutal friend go out for drinks one night. My uncle challenges my father and their friend to an arm wrestle. The friend was a heavy weight trainer. This guy was huge according to my uncle's testimony. Uncle was 110% convinced that my father would get floored.

Turns out holding sheet rocks above your head while screwing them in builds super human strength. My thin build father floored a weight lifter. Ever since then, I've always seen jacked/ripped guys as big puffy balloons. All you need is a really sharp needle.

[–]rattamahatta11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

My uncle challenges my father and their friend to an arm wrestle. The friend was a heavy weight trainer. This guy was huge according to my uncle's testimony.

Not to deter from your overall point, but arm wrestling is 90% technique. This does not prove that your uncle was stronger than the heavy weight trainer. Also, there is a physical, direct correlation between a muscle's size and its strength. But you should still watch out for smaller guys, they might be trained fighters.

[–]TheRiseAndFall20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy

On this point - this is why the people at strongman competitions and bodybuilding competitions are not the same people.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_20165 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go look at guys who do construction for a living. Many are stocky, some are lean but they don't look like bodybuilders. But I promise you. They are strong as fuck.

[–]Herdsengineers9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

There's this one guy at my gym, skinny, about 5'9". No fat on him, very trim. I saw him deadlifting 450lbs once. After that I started watching what else he does. It's more than all the super big guys, and he makes it look easy.

[–]ModeratorPaperStreetVilla9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is why it's not universal.

Sometimes, the difference between strong and just swole is a muscle insertion point.

[–]ZercherSquat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh yeah, Your father's story will suffice as evidence for generations. :D :D

The way you throw around the term weight lifter shows how little you actually know.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yeah, good point. I never claimed to be a badass, but that is my one ground rule. Never fuck with someone you don't know. I don't mess with people anyways, so not worried about it.

All 5 dudes aside from my foreman on my crew were my build, around 140-160, but we built a house a week in 100 degree humid TN summers for months straight, 60+ hours a week.

I'm not knocking getting big for the dudes that can do it, being in the gym is great, and I'm all for getting in shape. I look forward to heading there, cranking some death metal, and lifting weights.

But don't forget to do some running while you are there.

[–]desylid7 points8 points  (7 children) | Copy

Arm wrestling is more about technique and leverage than strength. I’m strong as a moose in every lift in the gym (have just shy of a 1500 pound powerlifting total.) And I do plenty of manual labor too.

I got my ass kicked in arm wrestling by two skinny and lanky friends of mine who don’t weighlify or manual labor. Hell I got hurt doing it with some wicked bicep tendinitis.

I’m a bouncer and I routinely end violent fights and muscle out dudes taller then me with dead weight though the club. Oh yeah and I “use the really sharp needle”

But I’m weak huh becsuse I would lose in arm wrestling?

This is such a dumbass comment.

[–]rattamahatta7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Arm wrestling is more about technique and leverage than strength.

Truth. Lots of bluepillers here, downvoting what they don't understand.

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Dude, quit your bitching. Never said anything about weak. Poofy, sure.

I'll even quote myself for your reading comprehension...

"Another important lesson. Dont fuck with no man. Even if he looks like a twig, you don't know if those hands are the hands of a farmer/builder or a gamer. The big poofy guys just make it obvious is the only difference."

[–]desylid2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy

Ever since then, I've always seen jacked/ripped guys as big puffy balloons. All talk, some walk. All you need is a really sharp needle.

This was an anti-steroids rant. You feel better after your natty auto fellatio?

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Like I said, all you need is a little needle...

[–]desylid2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Right becsuse steroids work magically.

Don’t use them man because you would accidentally win Mr Olympia

[–]ImHerWonderland0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The way I read it wasn't that all you need is a needle to get those results, but that they are all size and all you need is a needle to pop and deflate them.

[–]desylid-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh. Okay I can see that now. Still it's a dumb comment.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Builders/ farmers are basically doing kettlebells all day long. My wrestling coach used to tell me that a bench press was only important if I wanted to spend time on my back.

[–]Solistx 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Yeah, that would make sense. But on the topic, as someone with a thin, but cut build, how would bulk up more to look slightly bigger? Is it really just eat a shit ton more? I have a pretty standard Polish diet, lots of sausage, potatoes and vegetables. So if I just doubled down on my intake, that should help me bulk up a little more right?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Higher weight with lower reps and more food.

[–]Rian_Stone5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Funny, his message was; If you take her on in your tribe, drag her to happiness, kicking and screaming. Yet, your takeaway was, Girls are only LARPING, AMIRITE?

Why do you think that is? Did you actually read his message, or did you see what you want to see, which sounds a lot like justification for MGTOWing.

[–]1Entropy-718 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy

I dunno mate. If I were to discuss my last 15 shags that would involve a dozen or more specific dynamics. But I think we sort of agree that if you want an LTR, the proxy father seems to work the best.

I read bitches going on about how "I want my man to be my best friend."

FUCKING NOOO! Your best friend is the person you complain to about your BF/GF, you dumbasses.

Option 1 is comical, but I get it. Option 3 is more ideal. I don't get option 2.

[–]enjoy_life885 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I recall seeing the fiance of a guy I knew back in school posting this on Facebook a few years back. "He's not only the love of my life but also my best friend." Still feel the little sting it gave me.

Been checking out her profile once in a while to see her progress from hippo to landwhale, and yup, the more years passed, the fatter she got. They're married now, so that's the nail in the coffin.

[–]DodgedAFew0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stardew Valley dev's chick paid for him for 4 years. Option 4?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why did GLO delete this post?

[–]caliboo227 points28 points  (4 children) | Copy

GLO, don’t disagree, but just a warning: don’t go too far.

I’ve found in two LTRs that I brought the girl up and gave her such great confidence, she’d start branch swinging and it’d be over because she thought she had “surpassed the master.”

An old adage to go along with this I recall is something like “why would she want to be with someone who would date the loser she was back then?”

Bringing her status too high can make yours too low in comparison.

So don’t pour all your energy into her more than you put into yourself, don’t be her weight loss coach, her therapist, her professor, her BFF, her “girlfriend.” It doesn’t end well if she thinks she surpasses you. Always be the master.

P.S. Also just broke up (for at least the third, if not the fifth— and last— time) with an LTR ex over the phone.

She was such a drain on resources, time (I’m up all night right now because of her endless stream of complaints), and energy, and threw tantrums constantly when she didn’t get her way.

Every time I’d break it off, she’d call back in a week. The pussy / companionship was okay, (definitely not worth the hassle) but tempting enough to try again.

For this one I tried “coaching” her through her issues. She’d call me depressed about something, I’d cheer her up, wed go on a date, fuck, laugh and talk and shit, but then she’d get upset and bitch bitch bitch. Exhausting.

This LTR I already knew was going to have issues truly long term (obsessed with money, wanted total relationship control, would send herself into panic attacks over nothing, really stupid stuff.)

Anyway, as soon as she decided to go into “acting” as a “career” I knew it was over. We live in the right area to do this kind of thing, but she’s completely antisocial and can’t take a lick of criticism from anyone. Of course she can’t even manage her own finances let alone her own sleep or work schedules.

She lives in a fantasy world. What a waste and honestly, what a loser. Some just can’t be helped.

[–]An_Ignorant11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

This happened to me once. Just once. It was so soul-crushing I had to learn immediately.

You need to focus more on improving yourself instead of trying to fix an unwilling person, you need that and she wants that.

She only needs to "become strong enough" to look after the children. You need to become strong enough to carry both the girl and the children on your back.

And they call us the "oppressive" ones

[–]LabRat3145 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah. I've definitely had this happen to me in my life. Lesson learned.

[–]RedPillHanSolo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“why would she want to be with someone who would date the loser she was back then?”

Exactly. A common advice you see on TRP is "don't date 5s and 6s". Even if you think you're her Chad. I think that quote explains it.

[–]tourdepook176 points177 points  (47 children) | Copy

this is not a good post as it neglects a fundamental piece of nature that a kindergarten could tell you- men and women are different. I agree that women should be held to standards- but certainly not to male standards. If you want a women who can do 30 chin ups maybe women aren't for you.. as your username may imply.

[–]Scymnus10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

He's not telling you to hold women to the same standards as men, he's using it as a thought experiment to show how useless they really are compared to us. At no point does he say specifically that men and women are the same or should be held to the same standards. But I guess it doesn't matter to morons who come here only to nitpick and try to be funny by cleverly calling someone a homo as long as you get your internet points.

If you spent some time here reading and learning instead of spewing your non-constructive bullshit you would know that GLO is perfectly aware men and women are different. And if you don't possess the reading comprehension or brain capacity to spark constructive discussion the least you can do is have some fucking respect for one of the most active contributing members of this community.

You and every stupid fucker who gave you an upvote should go read the sidebar until your urges to nitpick and be funny on the internet is replaced by the ability to post something constructive.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 114 points115 points  (45 children) | Copy

This is not a good comment because it neglects a fundamental piece of nature that a kindergartener could tell you. Holding women to male standards is 1000x better than holding them to no standards and begging for pussy. Because even if they fall short they are still improving.

My girlfriend can do four pullups by the way

[–]shadymcyoloswaggins8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

The way I interpreted your post is that; if you want a woman to operate in your frame then she must feel the same pressure you do. Man's pressures come from nature and women's from man a la men love women love children love pets. She must feel the same level of pressure from above.

Therefore; you must hold a woman to the same idealistic standard, not physical, which is where I think the confusion lies.

My father held me to his idealistic standard when I was a kid and I thank him for it in the long run.

In conclusion; You must demonstrate to a woman that you intend to become the best you can be and the people in your life must be congruent with that or you will kick them to the curb.

[–]ddiogenesofsinope16 points17 points  (10 children) | Copy

Serious question

Why do you have a girlfriend?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 46 points47 points  (9 children) | Copy

After shooting my semen into women I don't know, I have to say that I prefer shooting my semen into women I know. Some of my friends found their child's mother on Tinder.

[–]ddiogenesofsinope10 points11 points  (8 children) | Copy

So why isn't she a plate while you shoot semen into multiple girls you know?

To me having a gf is a one way ticket to being blue pill. Plates are the only remedy to this

[–]tautscrot 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Because he's just a writer for a niche self improvement community. His posts elicit emotional outrage out male readers and include indirect workout suplement advertisements and 140 twitter advice with further reading on his website. He needs to make a living writing and he's found an unsaturated market. He couldn't be single in this market because if you're gonna talk about relationships people expect you to be fucking.

[–]enadelb16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

Basically this... it doesn’t matter if he follows his own advice as long as suckers on TRP buy into it, buy his products, and make him rich.

At the same time, when you actually know how to game women, have your shit figured out, have abundance mentality, you can pretty much do whatever you want and not fuck yourself over.

TRP is just like.. women and dating 101. Intro to sexual dynamics. Once you move on to bigger things there’s more to try and more to do. TRP says don’t have a girlfriend because it’s aimed at beginners who have no idea wtf they’re doing. A girlfriend for one of those spergs is a oneitis death sentence.

[–]ImHerWonderland3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I don't believe having a girlfriend is a one way ticket to blue pill if you're ready for it. Personally I always thought redpill progression was like this.

Beta with no women -> hookups/ons -> plate -> plate spinning -> girlfriend-> ltr -> possibly marriage

Obviously marriage is pretty end game if even possible. I assumed this was the order of things so long as you held redpill awareness and frame.

[–]ddiogenesofsinope8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

What am I reading???

Marriage is the ultimate blue pill end game

[–]1empatheticapathetic2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Marriage in this context is "lets see what i've got". It's like playing poker for 2 decades and then throwing your life savings onto the table for the rest of the games.

[–]I_Need_More_Space_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Have an upvote, butt fuck marriage. I don't really like gambling with years of life's energy.

[–]Lazysaurus13 points14 points  (25 children) | Copy

This is not a good comment because tourdepook said to hold them to standards other than men's standards, to which you flipped out about holding them to no standards.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] -1 points0 points  (24 children) | Copy

Holding people to unreasonable standards keeps them trying. Reasonable standards are always renegotiated especially by women.

[–]487563945739026 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

What about holding them to a high female standard, rather than a high male one?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 13 points14 points  (7 children) | Copy

There is no such thing as a female standard. Society needs women to shit out babies and spend men's money.

[–]Solistx12 points13 points  (5 children) | Copy

Yes there is. Its called cooking, cleaning and fucking your man. I'll hold women to men's standards when their vaginas seal shut and they can hold a conversation about quantum computing for more than 5 minutes.

If I'm the walking wallet, they must be the walking vacuum then. And I'm gonna treat the vacuum as a vacuum and the wallet as a wallet.

You don't treat a child as an adult, so why would you treat a woman as a man? If you understand how women work, then you can absolutely hold them to a standard they can perform. I'm not religious by any means but at a funeral the priest mentioned a line from the bible that really stood out to me. "God does not ever give you a task which he knows you are not capable of. But with that known, do not expect the task to be easy." My point is, you can treat women with standards, just don't be a fucking cretin about it and you'll be fine.

[–]foot_odor6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I support that point 100%. You nailed it. Can't believe this has been downvoted that much. It's time to put an end to the muh equality bullshit. Straight men are not attracted to what makes a woman looking like a good man. They're attracted to what makes a woman a good woman and a good mother.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is red pill don't be the walking wallet

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Childhood is a very recent concept.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

so there it is. Shitting out babies for society IS the standard.

[–]hellshigh512 points13 points  (13 children) | Copy

But why do we fucking care ?

[–]1-drukpa-kunley-19 points20 points  (12 children) | Copy

Why do people eat at fancy restaurants instead of McDonalds? Why do people train dogs and horses?

Because with repeated interaction, you can explore the depths of a woman's sexuality, and get inside her heart and mind as well. And if you go full-on patriarch mode, the good ones will submit to your frame and melt in your arms.

However, in order to be able to put up with her bullshit long enough to accomplish that, a man needs to mould a woman to be more pleasant to be around. And that means holding them to higher standards that the rest of the world.

[–]hellshigh53 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

As a french , the concept of frame as always been elusive to me

[–]1-drukpa-kunley-8 points9 points  (4 children) | Copy

Frame is who's reality is primary. It's either the man's reality or the woman's reality. In other words, who makes the rules? The man or the woman? Successful relationships are founded on the Man's reality being primary.


[–]hellshigh54 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

I guess its becose man is rational ?

[–]1-drukpa-kunley-0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes and No. There's way more to it than that. It goes all the way back to evolutionary biology.

[–]TheRiseAndFall1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

You lost me at the heart and mind part. In my experience women have awful hearts filled with jealousy, bitterness, and petty shit and a mind filled with inane garbage.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear2221 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Sure half of it is. You're surrounding yourself with women that don't respect you is my guess. The ones that do will rarely if at all show that side of their heart.

[–]TheRiseAndFall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am not sure any women in America respect men anymore. It has gotten to the point that even my foreign friends tell me they would never date an American woman even from the same heritage. I feel the same about Russian women in America.

There are some women that are kind and interesting but I find that I am not attracted to ones like these in a sexual way as they are often not physically attractive.

I was in a foul mood this morning when I wrote my first comment and upon re-reading it I can see that it comes off as bitter myself. If I had to generalize the aspects of the average woman I have encountered - they are not deep thinkers and they tend to be backstabbers in the end. They will cheat and they will lie.

[–]nopiller1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

So men's heart must be made of gold, candies, ice cream, unicorn and rainbow right?

Surprise surprise... mostly,it's the same shit as women heart

[–]theoracleofbromaha0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This was very insightful. The problem is that you can’t go full patriarch if the woman has become so entrenched in a masculine polarity that she can’t come back. Either that or it simply isn’t worth the effort.

[–]1-drukpa-kunley-0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. You have to screen the women first.

If when you first see her, and you maintain eye contact, and she looks down, or she looks away to the side, looks back at you, then looks down again. She's submissive.

Those are the ones you have a chance of going full patriarch on successfully.

[–]Tzeentch_Gnosis1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

All this begs a better question should you tell women to step up and how much?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 19 points20 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don't tell women anything make them

[–]Bear_x 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Jesus, what is with all the manginas downvoting you throughout this thread? Lel

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post is for men who have access to women. They don't. They're mad.

[–]losthours-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she the only expectation to this insane rambling you call a post?

[–]ImHerWonderland6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Why was this removed? It was a good post, thankfully I opened it in a tab earlier and was able to read it before I logged in to make this comment. I was raising my eyebrows halfway through, but everything tied together at the end.

[–]thenewme2_022 points23 points  (8 children) | Copy

You had me at postural correction coaching.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 21 points22 points  (7 children) | Copy

It's easier to feel alpha when your shoulders arnt anterior rotated.

[–]nomyconcept 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

please elaborate!

I am skinny and 6'4'' and even slightly wrong posture makes me look like a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man. I am working on the skinny part by working out and eating for a lean bulk. But the bad posture keep creeping up on me.

[–]aigamithite4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy

Everything below is useless if you do not consciously correct your posture every time you notice is off. This is where it all begins - by teaching your nervous system to default to a correct posture.

Bad posture many times starts from the glutes, which spreads to your lower back. Do you deadlift? Even at low weights, proper form can teach you proper posture and help activate your glutes (esp. if you do stiff, romanian or sumo deadlifts).

For the top part of the posterior chain, imbalances between pushing muscles to the front (front delt, 3 pec groups) and pulling muscles (upper/mid traps, rhomboids and rear delts) can also fuck up your posture. For the upper body, a good rule of thumb (albeit very, very approximate) is to be able to push as much as you pull for a given arm angle. E.g. if you bench 135 you should be able to pendlay row for 135. The back muscles are stronger than the front, but they are limited by your biceps/forearms, while the chest and front delts are supported by the stronger-than-biceps triceps when you push outwards.

[–]enjoy_life882 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

In addition to this, Yoga helped me the most with posture correction. But I don't know about its reputation here on TRP. :P

[–]aigamithite2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yoga's great just works through a different mechanism, that of elongating your muscles and tendons. Yoga+lifting would be best^

[–]nomyconcept 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Thanks for the input. I usually tried flexing my abs to tilt my pelvis forward. So is it more like a balance between glutes and abs or all glutes?

[–]aigamithite0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a balance between all the muscles involved in joint movements which includes the abs. However, the glutes are much stronger than any of you upper body muscles (since they are responsible for extending the largest joint in your body) so they exert a much larger force on your posterior chain than the abs.

You should work on all these muscle groups at once - deadlifts are the best thing you can do for your posture IF you do them correctly.

[–]-MAurelius-8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great post. Too often I see men making excuses for the shitty behaviors of women on their life. Have standards for who you allow to interact with you.

[–]bouncypoo6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow , 100% on the nose. I built up my most recent ex, got her into working out , more intellectual pursuits. Then I noticed her interest started to wane, she refused to follow my lead. Shortly after the relationship dissolved . My biggest mistake was not having plates spinning all the while but you live and you learn.

[–]AlexDr0ps8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Last week, a girl approached me at work and handed me her number. I didn't even get a good glimpse of her before she bolted out. I didn't have high expectations, but I respected the fact that she was willing to approach me so I thought what the hell, I'll meet up with her.

She was from the Phillipines, darker skinned, thicc. Honestly not really my type but she had a big ass and was good company so we ended up fucking on the first date. As we were casually talking afterwards, she mentions that she "practically lives in the gym and has a fitness blog"

Interesting, she made sure to tell me how seriously she takes fitness (I'm in pretty good shape and have a solid build) but she was certainly not skinny. Got some snapchats of her throughout the next week of her eating cheesecake and reeses puffs and it all made sense.

Girls, especially ones who are really into you, try to impress you by claiming to practice the same positive things that you do. The difference is that guys let their muscles speak for themselves and women use words and social media to put up a facade.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Goddamn, this post is on point. I can't believe my attraction to women for anything other than penile stimulation has bottomed out in direct correlation to my self improvement. This is exactly why. Women are mostly losers or struggling imitators. It's gotten to the point where if I don't have sex with her fast enough, I have to drop her because I can't stomach her personality. I need to work on using my frame to turn them into worthwhile creatures... at least for a few more moments.

[–]JackGetsIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Women are mostly losers or struggling imitators

Pretty good description. Even successful women are normally just imitating at a very high level.

[–]Viking_RnP4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

One girl I'm with was not raised by her father. She lacked guidance completely. She's scared of life and all she really is, is hot. When I provide guidance for her she responds in a variety of ways, but mostly positive.

From the day I met her I began to guide her. She fought it and questioned me on everything at first but now she just listens. She's always wet for me. I think she gets off to my leadership in her life. It's one of those things that just works. Like choking her when I fuck her. She knows daddy will take care of her until his turn is over.

[–]pizzadiet2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed with Option 3, but make no mistake: most guys don't mature until they're probably in their 40s and so if you've found a good/smart woman she can also teach you how to improve for your own good. Don't be an idiot. Be a man but don't discard her advice unless it's not a LTR and you could care less.

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (18 children) | Copy

or Option 4: just go MGTOW with the ocasional ONS

like you said here:

this means that by bringing a woman into your life you're associating with a loser. I know this sounds harsh but if we apply the male standard to females, clearly they're losers. Imagine an emotional gossipy man who cries all the time, frequently misses work and can't do a pull-up. Loser.

we don't have to bring a women into our life, we just have to do it for a night

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 33 points34 points  (15 children) | Copy

That's how it starts. Pretty soon she's at your house once then 2x a week. Netflix and Chill is being a loser. Drag that bitch into the gym.

[–]0signal034 points35 points  (14 children) | Copy

You're Russian, so you should know there are women out there who don't care much for TV and who have real hobbies. Sewing, reading classics, playing an instrument, drawing, name it. The Netflix and Chill "hobby" is mostly an American thing and as we all know, American women are some of the worst choices for a partner.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 14 points15 points  (12 children) | Copy

That's why I don't long term date American women. But that's a story for another time.

[–]0signal024 points25 points  (10 children) | Copy

I feel sorry for the guys living there. You're investing lots of time lifting, getting nice clothes, developing game and frame and all for the sake of dating women who have nothing (positive) to add to your life. I am so glad I was able to date eastern European women almost exclusively in the past. Now they were worth the effort.

[–]NYCSPARKLE14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy

You can find good southern / midwestern American girls.

Avoid LA chicks and NYC chicks for LTRs.

Also, FWIW, I've dated some pretty cool girls from wealthy families (and got the associated networking, perks, etc) which I imagine is pretty non-existent in Eastern Europe. I know that sounds materialistic, and it is, but something to keep in mind.

[–]0signal05 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Avoid LA chicks and NYC chicks for LTRs.

I had heard that before lol.

I dated a girl from a wealthy household once and honestly the wealth was the only good thing about her. That kind of background doesn't always correlate with positive character traits.

[–]gELSK0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

// , "That kind of background doesn't always correlate with positive character traits." Are you British?

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can find good southern / midwestern American girls. Avoid LA chicks and NYC chicks for LTRs.

Lets be very very careful with this advice.

The mid-west is not all cornfield farmland and the south is not all swampy land.

The mid-west covers a vast area including cities like Columbus OH, Chicago, St. Louis, Kansas City, ect...

They may not be NY or LA, but the women from these places are def the same.

The same goes for the South. Now if you mean to say women from rural areas and suburbs of the midwest/south are better, then yea you have a point.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

People really underestimate the South. It reminds me of that song by Hank Williams Jr. "Texas Women". He has a point, you can find a lot of gems down here: traditional hard working women who are also attractive. Not all of them though of course, but a lot.

[–]TheAmphibiaRapist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

As someone living in the south for now, I must say that the girls are as retarded as the men, which is to say - the bottom 20% of the us. Don't romanticize this place, it's a shithole and so are the people. They're they're totally brain-dead from the heat.

[–]Ke98170 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Huh? Midwest women are good. However, you get into Appalachia territory and these women are the fucking worst. Shame on the men for taking these ugly fucking fatties.

[–]ThickDickWarrior890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My brutha! Ughhhh you have to tell this story. I would love to hear the full reason why my nigga!

[–]biggerbetterjobs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You can netflix and chill while still having real hobbies.

[–]readordie137 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

Even for a ONS, spending time with women can suck. There's been a handful of times I've turned down ONS so that I could keep an early bedtime and not fuck up my morning routine and be tired.

[–]102117991071 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same. I went home after spending time at a new girls place after she cooked me dinner and gave me a massage. Needed rest coz of work and my new program at te gym. Her booty shorts wasn't enough to keep me around. I'd rather sleep sometimes.

[–]0ctaviusRex5 points6 points  (6 children) | Copy

Make her go to the gym, but without you.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 27 points28 points  (5 children) | Copy

Women only work hard when supervised by men. Unsupervised women half ass in the gym. Take a look next time you go.

[–]imbeciI25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy

Take a look next time you go.

Don't stare too long, or the abbyss will stare back at you.

[–]party_dragon0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Abby is a generic fat woman name, amirite?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women go to the gym to eyeball jacked men getting shit done. Doing air squats in the rack next to me while I'm loading the bar up. Bitch you're embarrassing yourself. Smh

[–]AussiecuntTRP12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Literally crosses my mind every single day I'm in the gym since I started. All the chicks are sitting on the bike on their phones or on the treadmill at like slightly above walking pace. The only reason they even go is for the selfies and so they can hamster to themselves that they're "being healthy" or some shit.

[–]0ctaviusRex7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're right. Maybe supervise her a few times, make a workout plan, sometimes check her success. But personally, I wouldn't have time in the gym to babysit my bitch in the long term

[–]imbeciI2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Most men (and by most I mean blue pilled ones) will let themselves be dragged unto the oneitis state, thinking that their partner are perfect in every single way. Her standards will become his, setting for less everytime until she moves on. Almost like a parasite.

[–]amekooky2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

this might be completely off topic but has anyone else noticed the amount of guys that bring their plates/gf's to the gym? fuckkkkkkkk that shit.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Not off topic. I don't get it. Each guy I see who brings their girlfriend with them to the gym always as a frustrated look on his face. Whether or not his girlfriend is taking it seriously or joking around and giggling. The guy always looks frustrated. Never understood why guys do this. Guys need to lift on their own time, and if they want to go to the gym with their girlfriend it needs to be for him to focus on her, after he has already gotten his lift in. Otherwise its just too much distractions.

[–]JackGetsIt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've noticed that it much more often a plate or chick using a beta buck guy then a girlfriend.

[–]1UPZ_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the small men bringing their gfs then their gfs perving on the bigger dudes is common in my gym.

but there's a few massive men with their gfs too.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If you lift seriously your gunna calorically dense food like steak and eggs. Your gf will eat what your eating but less if it. So either she lifts like you or she gets fat.

[–]ThickDickWarrior890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Glo, I’m trying to get my gf into working out brotha! I’m gonna do like you said and make her eat what I eat but just less. I really preshade dis advise homie! 1hunna

[–]HenryCurtmantle2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Beautifully written polemic. Devastatingly accurate.

[–]SirAttackHelicopter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You know what is more cringeworthy about women doing this "are into their appearance and none into the actual workout" bullshit? Is when men do it.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This was on point OP

Make women compete for and earn the right to keep your committment and it will all work out fine

[–]Hillarysdilddo_20164 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nor do I want offend a group of people who spends their time drinking smoothies and photographing their own butt.

LOL, so true.

Amazing analysis. However, I feel your option 3 needs refinement.

Option 3, force your woman to become the best version of herself, by taking the role of her second father. ... Teaching your woman to push herself physically and intellectually like a man,

Hmm... Nothing wrong with a fit woman, but I'm more inclined to say to push her to be the best woman she can be. Holding a woman to masculine standards is exactly where this post modern leftist shitshow has gotten us. Yes, she shouldn't be a dumb bimbo, or a fat slob, but I am more interested in her character. Will she be a good mother? Is she committed? Is she trustworthy? Does she exercise self control? Does she use social media (no)? Does she consume fake news? Is she feminist? Is she liberal? Does she exercise independent thinking? Is she loyal? Will she help me bury the bodies? Shit like that.

Otherwise, as I said, great write up.

[–]hodltaco1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Damn #3 is exhausting.been there done that.

[–]justthebeliever1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

so by avoiding women one just becomes homo? dude

[–]JackGetsIt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If anyone has a copy could you PM it to me?

[–]Lateralanouncer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I think the challenge we men face in a LTR is that our woman live such happy care free lives with no long term plans beyond saving for a holiday. It is easy for us to fall into the temptation of doing this as a man. But we don’t have a pussy to cash in so you end up fucking yourself. So no mater what be a man and grow like a fine whisky.

[–]macaroon181 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Why do women spend a fortune on their look if they are not competing for men?

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Because they're competing amongst themselves for status

[–]macaroon180 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Theres another view of our conditioning; that we are not competing with each other for women. We are competing with each other FOR each other, women are just the currency.

[–]HaasonHeist1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am currently in the early stages of pulling myself out of betahood. I read this, and my first thought was, "damn this guy is an asshole!" Then I realized that this thought was taught to me by my ex of 4.5 years. And by society. And from everyone I talk to. But deep down inside I agree with every point.

Not going back to the relationship world, not anytime soon. It is a fucking hassle every single day. She was a good girl, probably not nearly as bad as my friends' girlfriends. But still, a hassle every day.

If anyone has pointers for me in terms of fitness, diet or intellectual growth comment like 1 or two of your top tips for me. Thanks for being the only subreddit who can help me get out of my shitstorm that is betahood.

[–]Andrew543211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

3 isn’t exhausting if done through example. This response is for the lazy cucks out there who cry its a lot of work.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Interesting fact, Napoleon would give any woman he was interested in books he was interested in.

[–]Comicus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Totally right about women being losers. Back when I used to believe in equality, and I started using Tinder, I was almost shocked by how lame all the women's profiles were. All their pictures are just selfies, pictures of them drinking at a bar, or pictures of their tiny dogs. Usually their descriptions are either nonexistent, or just boring. Some of them will write a rant about all the guys they don't like, and some will just have something like "NYC > CA" or "Looking for fun not here for hookups." Or a movie quote. Some will even say shit like "I'm a feminist. Men are trash. Swipe left if your height doesn't begin with 6." In all cases, if a guy had a profile like any of those, NOBODY would swipe right on him. Yet women can't be ignored or rejected for having boring profiles, because they're ALL boring.

[–]Focusi1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Oh GLO you controversial asshole.

Always on point, I love it

[–]notonlyplace1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post isn't about demeaning women.

This post isn't racist but....

This post isn't sexist but...

This post isn't hateful but...

No need to pre-defend your post, I can as well as other readers determine if your post is about demeaning women.

men must make something of themselves to win sex. Women on the other hand don't

Two of the most false statements you will ever hear. Men must make something of themselves to be a beta provider, I see women with children taking care of single men , they literally pay all their bills, the only reason she left him was that he was molesting her 4-year-old daughter.

Women who are fat, ugly, no money don't live life as well as you think, while there are beta, most men demand sex in return for resources and livng your life sleeping with butt uglies isn't the easist.

  • Plot twist she got back together with her daughter's molester, had another baby with him, and is so in love with him that she busts her ass while he sits at home and smokes weed.

Alpha dominant males are in such high demand you can literally be piece of walking shit and slay pussy, women standards aren't that high

[–]buddhadarko1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the kind of stuff that won't be broadcasted. Folks, we have to really tune into what this guy has written. Women are not held to any kind of standards in society other than the low/meaningless ones they set for themselves and the bullshit expectations that society pushes through media. The female mind has permeated bars, gyms, sports, and the workplace and men have had to battle (those of us who are aware enough to know that a battle is required) to maintain manhood and masculinity in it's purest form (the best and only form of masculinity that is needed). I have grown beyond sick of seeing men have to stifle themselves and edit the way they are naturally to accommodate a female just because she's in the room and has a vagina. Meanwhile, women can openly demean a man for any reason (see reasons OP gave for women criticizing men) and they are never put in their place for the emotionally-charged, walking collection of orifices they are.

Women do little on their own to enhance our lives. It is up to us to make sure that the woman/women in our lives actually contribute to making our lives (and subsequently THEIR lives as a byproduct of strong, masculine leadership and direction) better in the long run. Countless men's lives have been completely ruined because of an emotional whim of a female that was based entirely on the way she felt and the fact that she has a vag and breasts and feelings. Court decisions blindly favor women simply because they are women, while men have to pay for lawyers and provide irrefutable evidence (against a legal system that is already biased towards women) in order to save any piece of their dignity and/or the things they've worked for over the years. There is too much propaganda out there that brainwashes boys and men into thinking that we need a woman to be something, to do something, and to get anywhere in life - this is a lie if I've ever heard one. Pussy is the commodity of the female species. That's a truth they'll never accept and it really doesn't matter to me if they do or not.

Whether you're in an LTR, spinning plates, or just getting into the game - know your shit or the shit will run amuck in your life.

[–]Ichewfivegum1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Option 4: use her for sex and nothing else, let her do her while you live your life accordingly. If I fucked her for a few hours then spend some time watching tv or some shit, I'm not gonna just walk out of her place with shrivelled up balls and a pair of man tits. Not gonna lie tho, this was a great read.

[–]Endorsed Contributormallardcove2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

So many MGTOW losers posting in this thread and shitting on it. Sad!

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Option 3 is pointless for you and for her unless she is doing some or all of the following:

  1. Raising your kids
  2. Supporting you on your mission
  3. Doing her fair share of the labour

As much as it pains me to point this out, without the experience of having children (the reason why men and women are attracted to each other) then you are really only seeing a small piece of the picture. If I did not have kids there is just no way I would offer a woman commitment, they are simply not worth it in the long term. For starters we age like wine, they age like milk, who wants to fuck a woman over 40?

The second issue is that unless she is a world class listener, or ugly with a high IQ, then in almost all cases you are better of spending your time and energy discussing/ working with a male. Women are generally only good at administrative tasks, housework and kids and most of them are not that good at any of the above.

Lastly it is fun to play around. Why experience just one woman when you can experience many? It makes no sense. The majority of women are not worth your time anyway so better to fuck a lot of them rather than just one. Basically unless you want children, or you need someone to help you have children, committed relationships with women are best avoided.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (7 children) | Copy

the ones that lift look like men.

not really fuckable.

Draw your own conclusions.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 18 points19 points  (6 children) | Copy

Are you a time traveler from the 90's or something?

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

I'm Dr. Curve. not Dr. Who.

Also - My gym has two or three females who compete in powerliftng.

So there is that.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

As long as women don't take male hormones they can't get too muscular.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (3 children) | Copy

ok. but they can get bigger than 80% of the "men" here. I am talking women who are cutting and bulking so often their period stops.

You think I am supporting women? I think you misread my comment like the idiots here misread your post if so.

[–]acetylcysteine7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

i disagree. more muscle definition sure, but not bigger.

the one's that look like men are on the juice, or some sort of PED.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

splitting hairs for what I was saying.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMetalgear2222 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can confirm. I workout once a week with an ex powerlifter/physique competitor that quit because her period stopping and she was getting an upper body that rivaled guys in the gym.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (7 children) | Copy

Because men compete for sex[1] , men must make something of themselves to win sex. Women on the other hand don't, which means that they don't have to mature beyond the emotional irresponsible teenager stage.

I don't follow your reasoning. Women don't need to compete for sex, but they also don't desire sex. They desire commitment (at least, historically they did). For which they would also need to compete amongst each other.

[–]GunsGermsAndSteel18 points19 points  (1 child) | Copy

They don’t desire sex???


[–]An_Ignorant16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy

I laughed at that too. Women desire sex with hot guys, not even just the sex but the whole power-play that comes along with it.

If women didn't want sex and the implications that come with it, a large portion of marriages wouldn't fall apart because of shameless cheating.

Some women want sex with a powerful man so bad, they are capable of putting their whole life and stability (and the stability of their children) at risk just to have it.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

They do compete with looks and promiscuity

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Looks, okay, but men generally don't commit to promiscuity.

[–]Rian_Stone4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

They desire validation, revenge, social status.

They fuck for many reasons, commitment doesn't come up until later.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have to partially disagree with this, I think it really depends on the woman. My parents have been together for almost 30 years and my dad isn't some pussy beta who only does mindless activities like my mother does.

He is still quite strong, frequently works in his shop on whatever project, and works long hours every week. Has a very high mechanical intelligence and still has his own hobbies that he likes to do (fishing, etc.)

However, my mother is also a very hard worker and an avid fitness instructor. Teaches almost every single day and is very fit. Perfect combination of submissive to my dad but also didn't baby my siblings and I growing up. Ideal mother/wife I guess you could say.

But I do suppose it could be said that most modern women are increasingly not like this and it is better to play it safe than marry, which is the part of your argument I could agree with.

[–]dragonhunter0311 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

i know a lot of woman who excel in the academics and work related stuff, some of them are pretty and smart , others ugly AF, but i would agree that society holds men and woman to a different standard but there are a too many woman that are competent in this society , but i would say this , most of the woman lack creativity and post a lot of pictures of their butt and indulg in mainstream bullshit fake lifestyle (party mode ) , the ones that dont engage in this behaviour will climb the dominance hierarchy and will become really good at what they do. but we seldom see a woman that has her shit together posting shit on instagram and other socialmedia, in the end they are up against the same challenges a man has to face, just in a lesser degree of intensity

[–]serio13373 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Hahahaha read the first three paragraphs and had to comment. Are you a writer or just witty af? This is absolutely brilliant. Saved for later!

[–]askmrcia4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was legit laughing throughout the entire post. Trying my hardest not to laugh to hard to distract my co-workers. He should def be a writer or at least a stand-up comedian.

The stuff he says has some truth, but the delivery is just on another level.

Nor do I want offend a group of people who spends their time drinking smoothies and photographing their own butt.

Just gold

[–]JackGetsIt0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This post was deleted you don't happen to have a copy do you?

[–]serio13371 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Dangit. Nope. Well this ruined my bathroom reading!

[–]Scandinavianredpill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great points. We have disagreed on things in the past, I think this is a great concise post and I agree with everything. Taking responsibility is the only viable option, especially when it comes to women. It has come to the point with the girl I am currently dating that she is no longer really questioning my authority. Actually women love to grow and they also love to get praise for effort, much like alot of beta guys do as well. This is nothing bad, I like to teach and see her grow.

[–]1Mr_Badass0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Her habits would do rub off on you. I remember when I had a plate last year and she would want to go to the gym several times a week. We did, and all she wanted to do was take some selfies and gossip about her life instead of actually working out. The workouts were mediocre at best, mostly yoga based.

[–]ThickDickWarrior890 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Glo- the don! I’ll go with option 3 bra!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

A dangerously thin line between unicorn hunting and awalt.

But what are we here for, if not to live dangerously?

Such is life.

[–]SDott1230 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Can someone explain to me the chart?

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I just got back from yoga bro and the bitches there are strong as fuck. Every time i'm put to shame.

[–]HardLessontoLearn0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This post makes me hate whatever women you're spending your time with. From what I can put together, they don't truly work out, are unoriginal, emotional, gossipy, miss work, can't do pull ups, and giggle at reality tv. That's a list of every awful female cliche.

Fuck, I'm a woman and I wouldn't even waste time with the bitches you describe.

I'd like to propose an Option 4: find a woman who gives a shit, has hobbies, takes care of herself, isn't a gossipy sack of emotions, and works her ass off (at work, in the gym and otherwise). If pull ups are important, but her a pull up bar here. If she's as motivated as you think, she'll be cranking out a few in no time.

[–]PaulRocker0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Like a wise man once said, "Fuck these bitches, and get that money."

[–]redok2go0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

this is well written and funny, whatever you think of the ideas. yes it's a generalization but there are elements of truth here. and it made me laugh. thanks for writing.

[–]faggotbrains0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

"So even if they’re unsuccessful at turning you into a loser, they can always shit out a copy of you and turn your son into a loser."


[–]Drumcode-Equals-Life0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Completely agree, the number of women I see walk into the gym, take selfies in the mirror, do a couple workouts with one set for each, and then leave is mind boggling. The entire time half the guy in the gym are practically drooling over them. Women don't have to work for shit nowadays, too many men willing to bend over backwards.

Don't be that guy, have some self respect.

[–]1UPZ_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There's a woman in my gym who squats more than some men and benches as much as them.... so

[–]Shaman66240 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Option 3 is what I do. But she was already a very responsible women to start with. Started living on herself at 16. Finished her study at 20. She makes more money because I'm still studying and she works fulltime. Add to that that I always got my head in the clouds and am an undisciplined adhd guy and you get to the point that she is more of a provider then I am.

[–]caP1taL1sm2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This post is useless, jesus

[–]TheseNthose0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was with you until you said to follow you on twitter.

[–]bolupua0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No. This post isn't about the inferiority of women. It's about preventing female inferiority from contaminating our male superiority, while still fucking them in the pussy.

One of the best phrases I read in a while. I literally spit my coffee reading that!

[–]Kommanderdude0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Idk what part of the country you’re in. But 80% of the women at my gym workout harder and can deadlift and squat more then 90% of the men at the gym. In fact the only men they interact with on any level are the top 10% of us ( extremely jacked or heavy power lifters. Those women are also very much fuckable as far as looks go. I never see these Instagram hoes in the gym. Although I go at 5am so I don’t know what the afternoon crowd looks like.

[–]jeanlatruite-5 points-4 points  (3 children) | Copy

This post isn't about demeaning women.

You've already failed.

Also you should stop generalising, not all people are identical.

[–]Senior Contributor: "The Court Jester"GayLubeOil[S] 9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm going to do my best to respond in a way that you can comprehend

U 2 dum 4 RedPil go bak 2 videl gayms

[–]JackGetsIt2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Now that it's deleted can I get a copy of the post so I can figure out what the fuck everyone is talking about??

[–]jeanlatruite-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wanna show me on the doll where the bad women hurt you?

[–]Tzeentch_Gnosis-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yeah, look at Beckett and Castle, Castle was a lesser alpha when they met cocky and rebellious but after a few episodes he's completely dominated even as a writer in Scrabble! She married him over Davidson who might have been unattainable to lock down but she dreams about him in her sleep.

[–]GreatWhoreOfBabylon-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

get dat gay chit outta my face next time

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I can't do a pullup of my life depended on it but (not making excuses here) my 6'4 somewhat overweight yet cut build makes me over 250 pounds which sorta makes that impossible unless my blood is made of meth, testostrone, and lightening.

That said I always figured that I would always have to "make better" in my relationships then to "keep myself in check" and accept her flaws.

For every woman out there there is another person tired of her shit. It may be bro science but it's still an undeniable fact.

[–]LabRat31416 points17 points  (13 children) | Copy

I'm 165lb and can do pullups with an extra 100lbs. You're just weak and making excuses.

[–]Hillarysdilddo_20164 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy


I'm not even a strong dude. But one time at a packed house party dude had a pull-up bar mounted in the ceiling. So being drunk and fucking around we did some pull ups.

This beta tried to amog me by jumping on my back so I would look weak. I managed to continue my reps with this loser on my back.

Pretty funny.

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I can bench 240, bicep curl 50 pounds each, I can deadline more then 600 pounds. My tris from various workouts ca do about 55 each. So I don't think I'm weak. There are just some workouts some people are naturally for whatever reason are unable to do.

Am I seriously getting down voted for agreeing with this post but saying I don't have the body to do a pullup? Seriously?

[–]LabRat3144 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Benching less than body weight is weak. Not being able to do a pull up is weak. You're weak. The sooner you accept it and take personal responsibility. The sooner you can make positive changes.

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

By your logic If a 400 pound obese person can bench 350 he's weak.

This bullshit. I'm moving along now.

[–]LabRat3146 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

Being 400lb and obese already proves mental weakness. Where the mind goes the body will follow.

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

Not if you have metabolic syndrome, diabetes, or disabled.

I'm not any of this but what you're saying is too simplistic

[–]LabRat3145 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Being 400lb is a result of one thing and only one thing. Eating too much.

[–]Westernhagen1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Pullups are like anything else; you can train yourself to do them. At my gym they have elastic bands that you put on the pullup bar, then put your foot in it while doing the pullup (they give you a little boost). I used progressively thinner bands until I could dispense with them altogether. Now I do my pullups with chains around my neck. And yeah, I'm a big guy and pullups were always hard for me. Hated doing them until I got good at them.

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I Google what you're talking about. Interesting machine maybe I should change gyms

[–]09kwokhy11 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Progress from lat pulldowns; im at three pullups a rep atm

[–]Westernhagen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

No machine. It's this idea. Start with a thick band, graduate to thinner ones when you get better.

[–]Phaeer 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

When I was 230 I could still do 10+ pull ups. Come on now.

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I'm not 250 pounds of muscle. Never said I was. I'm a little cut but thick.

I goto the gym 3 times a week. I workout quite well. Not everybody has golden shoulders made of bull testicle.

[–]Rian_Stone5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

somewhat overweight yet cut build makes me over 250 pounds

I'd look at this again, this has hamster written all over it. Are you a fat fuck, are you lean, or are you in need of a cut? Can't be both

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

I have a layer of fat that doesn't hid my leg, arm, and chest muscles. Nobody would consider me a fat fuck but the way I'm built sort of hides my fat. If that helps.

[–]Rian_Stone0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So, a spare tire with muffin top?

15% is 15%, I'm well aware of clothed hot vs naked hot

[–]Hillarysdilddo_20161 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're weak as fuck if you can't do a single bodyweight pull up.

Edit: I saw your follow up comments, so I'll be more motivational...

You should be able to do basic bodyweight exercises barring some injury or disability. To me it sounds like you've underdeveloped this aspect. If I were you, I would remedy this using the assist machines until you can bang out reps of your own weight.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

your weight and height give you an obese BMI

I bet a body builder with that BMI can do pullups.

you are a fat fuck

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

This is not constructive man. Believe what you want. I have so much in my life I have to worry about, I'm open to improvement but BMI is a shit scale. Ignore my strengths and focus on one set of specific muscles unable to lift 250 and I'm a weak fat fuck


[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

pull ups are your back muscles. One of the largest and post important - if not THE most important- muscle group.

your BMI is 30+.

I used to think it was just a number as well.

You know what.. why don't you post numbers for your Navy method BF calc. or waist hip ratio?

[–]LabRat3140 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It is constructive. Your ego just doesn't want to accept the truth.

[–]PM_ME_UR_HOT_PIXELS 1 points1 points [recovered] | Copy

My last redpill article 2 weeks ago was literally about accepting my flaws and how you guys should too.

But thay doesn't prove anything. So simply put... no dude. I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm saying it's tougher for me then you. And doing a pullup for the fact that I can do it is less important then other aspects of my life right now.

So no right now it's not constructive for me.

[–]TunedtoPerfection0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Cause you are a weak fuck. What you chose to worry about is your problem, deal with it then you can stop worrying about it. You need to improve your muscle balance and basic health.

I use to be a weak fuck as well that couldn't do a pull up. I'm 6'6" ~220 it took me literally a week in the gym and doing ~25 push ups a day to be able to bang out 5 pull ups.

It should not hard to do basic bodyweight exercises, if it is your unbalanced and weak as fuck. Focus on fixing that before anything else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You should follow this guy on twitter. Perhaps even follow his carnivore diet.

[–]Redteen224-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any advice on actually putting this into practice?

[–]SeanPatrickMcFarland-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like how the only sweet spot, where they have no advantage over each other is at (0,0). This is why people shouldn't go through relationships and focus on your dreams.

[–]CarnivOre93-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Incredible post glo! It’s been a minute since you’ve dropped some knowledge on us. Do you act like a second father to your woman child?

[–]MGTOWManofMystery-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Option 1 only works if you were born with homosexual or other tendencies. I for one couldn't ever do anything homo -- you'd have to kill me first.

Sometimes I envy a buddy who is gay. He doesn't have to put up with women's bullshit at all. Reminds me of that old Eddie Murphy bit about his gay buddy.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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