Edit: Added a few more details under each relevant point so it's as beginner friendly and coherent as possible. Essentially in any interaction concerning sexual intimacy, you should aim for a "it just happened" sort of thing, this works best by far
This is my first ever post as a way of giving back to the community and reporting what I've learned and found what works best. You can check your strengths and weaknesses and know what to improve/how to cater your game, an example is I need to be less of a douchebag and not fail every comfort test that goes my way. This is my first and potentially only post on the sub so hopefully it provides valuable insight despite it being obvious and whatnot
Definition: Never sleep with a coworker/someone closely associated with your work. I believe girls in the same apartment are fine so long as you watch your back and stay safe, someone in one of your university classes too so long as you approach cautiously. Fellow gym members is a risk, only ever approach the ones that give you strong and plenty IOIs, don't approach the girls that don't. Ever. Basically don't sleep with someone you work often with/around or gym girls that focus on their own thing and don't want to be bothered
This one should be engraved into your mind. It's never worth it, don't fucking do it. It's strongly advised against for good reason. Mixing pleasure and business is not a good idea since she may cause drama or try and fuck you over on your job. Too many risks for the payoff to ever be worth it
Definition of trying hard: Sexually escalating and trying it by moving too fast, attempting in short intervals and giving attention regularly. It's cool and all to be direct although if you just make it sex-based she won't cave. Trying hard at first is well paired up with getting yourself into a true "don't give a fuck" mood later on, they find that so so sexy, though it's very hard to get put into that mood. Only ever happened to me three times and no clue what caused it
From a post I read before and from what I've seen, girls love it when you look like you live your life with or without them and you can live with them not putting out for you. I've been on both ends with the same girl, where she told me she started losing interest since I was "trying too hard" to me then just genuinely not giving a fuck and it worked out perfectly for me. "Flow like water", don't let a woman be a dam you go out of your way to find and push over
Anyone who's spent a minute on this sub knows this is one of the cornerstones of the sexual strategy aspect of RP. It's not fun for anyone and a complete turn off. Women desire a man who does his own thing and who countless other women desire and talk about. If you do get needy occupy yourself, you're a grown ass man you got shit to do instead of gazing at the stars wondering "What could have been" or picking flowers while muttering "She loves me, she loves me not". If any of you kill yourselves over a girl I will personally travel to the afterlife, pull your ass back into the realm of the living and knock some fucking sense into you. Oneitis is a debilitating condition that throws anyone off their game. You need to shut that shit down, even if it's a slight "she's not like other girls". This also has to do with my point on never settling. More on that later
Girls always try and rattle up suspicion or jealousy/envy in a man to keep them on their dog leash. It's one of their stupid covert games, don't fall for it. You shouldn't ever care. In a high school class my (BP) friend told me "Man I just heard the girls talking about how they send pics of guys in our class to guys in their contacts list to make them jealous". I just laughed at him while they were around us and said "You have so much to learn". Ended up getting spammed by texts from a girl trying to get my attention which they noticed and started eyefucking me ever since. Poetic
Frame. Frame frame frame. Breathe frame, be frame, live frame. This is perhaps the most potent and powerful tool in your arsenal. If a guy wants to get into a fight, as Sun Tzu said, "The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.". Don't ever get mad at a girl or anyone, you look like a childish idiot and she dries up like the Sahara desert. Fun fact, every girl I know who's boyfriend did something along the lines of "She has a man now" broke up after a week max. It shows insecurity and women can gauge insecurity like sharks can smell blood in the water
- Never Be Too Much of A Dick
I really wish I listened and reflected more when I read about comfort tests on here. You need to be able to identify and relate a girl's emotions to game her at your maximum potential. Sure some are going to go for you since you're a complete douchebag though those girls are the less sought after. Charm is the right amount of comedy, mystery, interest and teasing. Do too much of a god thing and it creates an imbalance, in this case teasing. You need to give her an emotional roller coaster of ups and downs, but do too many downs and the ride shuts down
- Never Be An Emotional Tampon
Girls always have options no matter what for "nice" listeners. You can hear her out from time to time although set boundaries to know what you're about. If any of you have a hard time remaining distant think of it this way: if you won't be her emotional tampon someone else will. And she sure as fuck won't be banging the emotional tampon
- Never Take Things Personally
Girls are more scared of rejection than guys, it's why they rarely approach and none can game. It's one small meaningless interaction that could result in you knocking boots or a confidence boost exercise. If she bails, just understand what her nature is and it's not you, it's her. This is including and not limited to; flaking, playing games, shit testing. Not taking things personally also helps with the abundance mentality and DGAF attitude
- Never Be Afraid of Taking Risks
Also great life advice for success. Similar to previous point however I know damn well I don't want to live with any regrets in life so I'll take the harmless risk of approaching and seeing how it goes. Best case scenario: Plate or whatever you're looking for Worse case scenario: Rejection. Despite this you still get out of your comfort zone, ergo improving nonetheless
What I mean by this is you don't want to ask questions such as "Want to meet up at this park at a time?" or "What's your favourite 11th century artpiece". Questions are fine and such but don't overdo it. However, you should never ever ask, you must always command (this does not include sex). Setting logistics especially. Standard of her "where are we eating" or "I'm free Friday" is you replying with "I know this great Chinese place. I'll pick you up at 8" or "Let's do a park walk at 6PM Friday" respectively. I found that using my ending cold approach line to "Let's exchange numbers, I'll take yours" works perfectly as it's friendly, a suggestion into a leading command and makes you look like you know what you're doing. I highly suggest implementing it if you have not already
If you're seeing red flags galore or feel like you're in the house from Poltergeist, abandon ship. If you sense somethings off or you shouldn't push then don't. Trust your gut. You'll know the difference between butterflies in your stomach to "some kind of fuckery is going on here". This point also includes the voice inside your head like "Don't text her again man, it's only been a day". Last point is a good example of betraying your senses
"When you settle you get what you settled for" -A guy who's name I forgot. You need to keep up your standards since mentality makes all the difference and once you start caving in to the occasional Miss McDonalds or Mrs. Human Potato Head since you've been having a "dry spell" then numerous problems will arise. Don't do it, only fuck who you believe you should be fucking (while also having major self confidence to uphold high standards). It's principles, it's self discipline and self control. It's right
- Never Game, Let Alone Fuck a Bipolar Girl
If you want to open Pandora's box on your dick, be my guest. Just remember the phrase "Abandon all hope, ye who enter" when she's starting to flip shit and is a hair strand away from accusing you of abusing her
Symptoms to spot one are listed and not limited to; mood swings, threatening to chop your dick off, screaming and shouting, having the crazy eyes, maniacal laughter
With all that being said, the world is your oyster. Go get 'em Tiger. Good luck and enjoy
NEVER EXPECT ANYTHING FROM OTHERS
Reliance on expecting things to work out everyway you want will only lead to suffering.
Continuing from this: NEVER ALLOW YOUR HAPPINESS BE DICTATED BY OTHERS.
You will, for the majority of the time, not be happy if you do this.
Law 11: learn to keep people dependent on you.
How to keep people dependent on you in this way?
It can be emotional dependence, dependence on your advice, dependent on a physical product or service you can offer like drugs or food, etc.
I have some sort of reverse self fulfilling prophecy where if I believe things won't work with a girl, they do. When it's the other way around things fall apart. Expect the unexpected. Always
“To win any battle you must fight as if you are already dead.” - Miyamoto Musashi
There is so much truth to this. An embodiment of stoic philosophy.
Same. It applies not only to girls but to life as well. Whenever I thought something wouldn't work - it did. And when I thought it would - it didn't.
Can you also elaborate what you mean by "trying too hard"? People always throw this phrase around but never explain what it means.
It's a pain in the ass because you can't convince yourself it won't work, you truly have to believe it from the get-go
What I mean by trying too hard is, from what I gather when I was told, I just kept sexually escalating and trying it by moving too fast
Yeah I found the same thing. If you try to convince yourself it wont work, it won't because you have some hope remaining that it will.
I'm confused - aren't we taught to always be closing/escalating? If we are not always escalating won't the girls think we are nice guy pussies?
Think of it this way, you're a millionaire who's looking to buy a supercar. You're at the dealership and browsing around and a car salesman comes to you to greet you, is friendly, and chats you up about the details about the car. He then goes off to do his own thing while you browse. He then returns while you're browsing and again chats you up about the weather, life.etc
Now, as opposed to this car salesman there's another one. He constantly badgers you and buzzes around you telling you all the bonuses and details of the car, obviously making it clear he's trying to push you to buy the car by faking enthusiasm
Which car salesman would you like more and which would you be more inclined to buy from?
You guys are all such total fucking pussies good lord it's pathetic - no wonder women hate you bitches!
Expectations of others only leads to trouble.
I don't know why Yoda didn't expound on this.
IT IS OKAY TO EXPECT FROM OTHERS, IF YOU ARE PAYING THEM.
Never settle for anything less than your expectations when departing with your money. Be upfront so there is no misunderstanding later on.
Tough one, do you have any advice on that?
A THOUSAND TIMES THIS!
No one owes you anything!!!!
"No one owes you anything.
You owe it to yourself to be the best person possible. Because if you are, others will want to be with you, want to provide you with the things you want in exchange for what you’re giving to them.
Some people will choose not to be with you for reasons that have nothing to do with you. When that happens, look elsewhere for the relationships you want. Don’t make someone else’s problem your problem."
https://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/GiftDaughter.htm
Reality is what actually happens.
Most of the time, the variables of thought, emotion, and action can create a clusterfuck that most people never discern their way out of. Go with reality first, and base your thoughts, emotions, and actions around THAT.
Too many people, quite literally, try to FORCE "living backwards".
This point should be #1 imho since it is the bigger red flags of all
If she is crazy, bipolar or borderline you should run instantly. These emotional vampires don't deserve a single minute of your time. Recently I've slayed a vampire who sucked the life out of me, don't do the same error as mine. Well, in reality, this is an experience everyone should try out, because describing it doesn't work. And at the end of the day, when it will be over, you will know what type of girl you should run away
You mean Borderline - that's a whole other level of shit. If a man has to fear one thing in this universe, it's BPD. Keep 'em far away.
My mother is a BPD, never diagnosed officially but my sister is in mental health and is certain she is BPD. These people are a vortex of negativity that sucks the life out of your soul, having one as a mother is a rather difficult situation to deal with from such a young age, having the choice to avoid these people is a great thing rather than than being the child of one.
What if having a BPD mother does affect you, as a male, are there ways to manage this? I'm saying is all hope lost for a BPD male?
I dated a bpd woman. Best sex but worst relationship of my life.
For me, the sex was the worst... She has a settled post wall mindset with a lot of troubles that I can't overcome. Obv worst relationship in my life too
Bpd seem to be into weird shit, such a shame.
I would love to see more insight into this. I feel like I'm going through that shit rn but I'm not sure if I'm just projecting or if she really is insane/crazy/bi polar.
Sure, here's my story
I couldn't read the imgur, too blurry, but I checked your history and I'm assuming it's about the 47yo?
So many similarities man even though my ex is 3 yrs younger than me. I play poker too that's awesome you're pro! Always been my dream to go pro but I have too many life leaks to make it work. I've tried but I still think I could do it.
Try to open to download it, because I just checked and the image is in good quality and you can def read the words. And yes, it was about the 47yo crazy.
Regarding playing poker for a living, believe me, sometimes I'd like to have a regular job, it is too stressful and isolating.
I read it man. Thanks for the reply.
A bi polar chick can and will make you think you're the crazy one. As if you are projecting. It's a sociopathic thing. Women cannot be introspective, so to them (even a relatively same one) the only explanation is that everyone else is the crackpot. Very dangerous psycho shit.
Her (my ex) MO in a nutshell.
The fact that she can be so evil, for lack of a better word, is what gets to me. It's almost like I envy her, for being able to be so callous in the blink.of an eye. It's like she was red pilled but doesn't even know it. Like you said, she has no idea about introspection.
Seconded. Recent ex blamed everything on me (or those around her). Fortunately i didnt take any of it, but that made things worse. Glad to be free.
That is their strategy. She will make you think it is your fault.
Ok sure. I dated this girl for two years, moved in together gave good fucking sex head a little anal... all the time! Shit was dope!! Then in order to save money and do more party things we moved in with her with parents. That shit got worse, screaming and accusing, cutting herself to attempted suicide. I’m just getting back to my grounded ness after all that. And I heard the red flags, the voice in me screaming to struggle on my own instead of taking the help from this vampire, and yet I ignored it because I thought in time maybe..it will pay off.. well it was a good experience as far learning hardcore rp truths and that’s self reliant and trusting of my inner voice! Shout out to the crazy bitches for lessons that sometimes you can’t understand on your own!! Edited grammar and punctuation
So fucking with you here, you have no idea.
https://drjudithorloff.com/4-strategies-to-survive-emotional-vampires/
If you have to question it you're probably right that she's crazy. Drop it like its hot man.
Yeah you're right. I was doing good, pretty much dropped her out of my life and felt fine. After months of no contact she started to msg me about our kids. By this time I had started trp. I'm still new to this. And I held frame well by basically telling her I want nothing to do with her. Somehow we started messaging again and I started to flirt with her more. This eventually lead to phone calls.
I'm living at home because of our break up and I have a very strained relationship with my father. I have no problem saying he's a beta bich. And I resent him for it. I'm so desperate to leave that I was willing to go back to my ex and she was down with it. Things were going well, we were getting a long great. Then we had a small argument that blew up. We got over it and I bought a plane ticket to come back to her.
Then Thursday night we had another argument about dumb shit and she went way off the rails and completely went to straight hate mode and she's ghosted me since. I tried really hard to not call but I was so angry I finally caved last night but she didn't answer. This made me more angry and after a few hours waiting for a reply I msg her on FB and called her a cunt and to go fuck herself and then blocked her.
Let me have it. I need to hear it. I'm so down and out rn. And it's not because I'm heartbroken. I just feel like the deck is stacked against me and it does anger me that she's an awalt.
I don't think you should resent your father for having flaws. I mean when it comes down to it family is all you have at the end of the day. You should try to help your dad grow with you if you can.
I wish I could. He's too stubborn in his ways. He's in his mid 70s. It's too late for him.
Totally agree. You gotta experience it to know. A 9 with bi-polar is not worth it. I'd rather a 6 with all the personality you want.
6? Why not find a 7 or an 8 theres more of those than 6s in observation. 6s usually have borderline personality disorder because they often get fucked and dumped so they develop an abandonment complex.
I think SaladThunder was just making a point: it's better to be with a not-that-hot-looking chick who's sane than a smoking-hot chick who's crazy.
Imagine being raised by such a woman.
How the hell do you know if bitch it bipolar?
You'll know when you meet one, you'll feel something's off and the emotional rollercoaster is too glaring to overlook
I feel that shit with every chick mate
Well, the odds of that arent' in your favour. You probably have some personal issues and tend to overvalue or overeacting in general. If that's the case, that's great, you have to just work on yourself and you'll be fine.
Why overvalue? Dude, I don't feel that you are getting what Im saying here. The only way I feel there's nothing off is when Im talking to dudes because I am a dude and we understand each other. Women piss me off all the time with some random nonsense actions and lines. I don't think I've ever felt that the chick is a completely normal human being. It never fucking happened.
It’s definitely beyond anything you’ve experienced if you haven’t been mindfucked by a crazed bitch who is also, actually not bystander observation but shrink labelled insane. You can google the full condition ‘bipolar manic depression,’ and the wiki does the illness a proper description, but in terms of how it relates to trp I would say if she is noticeably unable to get out of bed (not the bed you’re fucking in, like she won’t get out of bed at all) one week, the next week she lovebombs a bit, but in a distant way, or ignores you completely, and the third week she tells you she has decided to change careers and believes ‘back yard flying saucer manufacturer,’ you’ve got a bipolar. RUN AWAY. If her meds are remarkable in the numbers of tranquillisers and items like ‘lithium’ are in there, you’re OUT THE DOOR because you know now, no excuses, bipolar-run. If she believes an alien abducted her but it was nice, and she isn’t wearing a tinfoil hat, then you’ve just got a regular crazy bitch. important distinction somewhere the idea that bipolar is synonymous with BPD got floated and it won’t die. BPD is a different kind of crazy than bipolar. BPD will try to twist you, blame you for shit you didn’t do (hint: if it’s some idea she possesses you, like you’re her only man and expects you to follow this idea as in she’s your only chick, and then out of nowhere attacks you viciously claiming you’re sleeping around, she’s a BPD with a gift, her tells are clear. Whatever your BPD chick accuses you of, ‘stealing her money,’ then check your wallet and bank balance. They are taking pleasure in sadisticlly tormenting you, and if you try and be understanding you are down the rabbit hole of a BPD chicks whims and leave. You don’t need to run, she’d think it’s funny. Just walk away and stop all communication and don’t violate that rule. These are different things completely. A bipolar doesn’t necessarily enjoy her suffering or yours, but isn’t in charge of her mind. A bipolar can, and has (in my case) taken their own life in my apartment. That’s beyond anyone’s idea of fun, including the bipolar. But that’s the reason I say RUN unless you want to deal with that kind of shit. Having done, I’d advise against. BPD won’t even be actually considering suicide, despite her trying to get a kick if you squirm when she (and they do) threatens suicide. They’re too selfish and interested in you (and many other people) suffering to take themself out. That’s how you can tell a bipolar. And a distinction that got fuzzy I think because to your normal dude bipolar and BPD sort of ring the same sound. If you’ve been there, it’s impossible to ever miss again, and if you did the needful, smart thing and ran you didn’t stick around for any of the really ugly parts of a bipolar life. I hope anyone read that and it went ding I think I’m clear on that, because it is worth knowing. While you’re thinking next level game and she blows her head off with a shotgun in your bathroom you didn’t pay attention. Too late then. Good luck.
Dude Im not spending time analyzing bitches. I just have fun and bounce.
They have modes. Something triggers it off, like anxiety, environment, situations, things they like and hate... Overreacting is a good sign. If they rush through things and talk quickly. Hyper responsive.
You'll know. It'll come straight at you out of nowhere.
They leave you like an addict wanting more but hating what you feel as if you need. If you are a logical man try to see a borderline or bipolar ex as the most unjustified Oneitis
Exactly
We are men so we are rational, however when you are inside a relationship with a girl in general, is difficult to see the situation as it is. Even when it's over, the emotions linger a bit and being rational and objective is utopia. Obv, with time, you see the big picture as, like you said, an unjustified oneitis
Aren’t they ALL crazy, though?
They are emotional, but crazy is a different kind of story. You will understand when you meet one
I’ve made about 100 like that.
I agree, some things are best learnt firsthand
I feel like every girl I talk to these days usually has some mental illness lol hard to find a hot college girl who's actually sane these days
Yeah it happened to me too. She ruined my marriage and my kids got estranged. I was in the army and things went wrong and I was presumed dead. Truth is I was Held captive and many years later, I was rescued. My family was really happy to see me but it was a struggle assimilating back into society and being a good husband and a father. Especially since my best friend was now in the relationship with my wife. I don't blame him, she's kinda hot and she needed someone and my kids needed a father figure and truth be told he is a really good guy. But it was still fucked up to have that thought in my head. I didn't make it easier on anybody either since I had ptsd and all that. But we were trying to get through it. Then this blonde bipolar CIA bitch comes into my life and everything went to shit. I was on the run for my life and lost my family all over again. Im dead now so believe me, stay away from bipolar bitches!
Gotta buddy doing 3 years because his bi-polar girlfriend tried to stab him. He responded as you would if someone tried to stab you.
Apparently she did have magic between her legs though.
unfortunately, this is true... the crazy ones almost always make GREAT sex partners.
How can you tell they are bipolar before even talking to them?
You really can't if you don't interact with them. Temper swings is a good sign. Also the way they talk and how they emphasize in their speech.
This is one of those post which you need to save and read once a month.
Thanks, means a lot. I wish you and everyone all the best
Also, don't text her right when you are in a bad mood (a bout of oneitis, or due to things unrelated to her). Text her when you feel "inspired".
This is a rule I wish I knew 5 years ago. But when u don't get a cell phone until your 18 what can u expect.
Honestly, I would say come to this sub Reddit and read some posts before posting to her. It'll get your mind settled and hold you off from badgering her.
Constant texting are results she is recording. part of the test.
Too much of this is happening with young men today. It's good to see you look out for your brothers.
You were on that good kush when you wrote this, weren't you? Gave me a good laugh. Good post, well done.
On one hand there's men who kill themselves over being rejected while others resort to violence and maim/kill others. Shit's fucked, yo
Haha believe it or not I wanted an edgy, ironic dumb username when I was a kid so I chose this. I've been told I'm "interesting" and have a good sense of humour. Glad I could lighten you up, thanks for the commendation
It's cognitive dissonance. They're taught something completely false about dating, sex, and relationships but don't know it. When they attempt to do what they believe is right and face failure, they are confused. That confusion turns sour over time. Some people experience pain as anger and others as depression. That's why I believe every man should take the Red Pill. At the very least, they should start with No More Mr. Nice Guy. The Red Pill saves lives when utilized to it's fullest.
This is true but we hamster everytime. And think if I say/text this she will... We all have "it" we just ignore it for x reason.
I agree on the hamster thing. But I think op is right, even blue pillers get the red flags, it is only afterwards their cognitive dissonance will hamster them into rationalizing every red flag into something good. My point is, some red flags are so poignant our gut will let us know. This is just my experience, would like to know what you think.
Truth I've learned. Every time I'm in the parking lot waiting for a date and I get that "Just drive off and flake" The date winds up being bad, where if I had left before hand it'd be fine but I never trust my damn gut. This happened once when this super model looking stripper texted me at 2am asking to come over (I had work for 6) my mind told me no but my dick said yes I went there got drunk as fuck and lasted maybe 30 seconds in bed and couldnt get hard again. got blocked but the hottest girl I ever bedded. Still a bit pissed about that one
Never Betray Your Senses : The intuition speaks to you for a reason. Your brain can play tricks, your heart can blind, but your gut is always. right.
Just got over the bi polar thing. Don't do it guys, it's fun when she's sucking your dick in public but becomes shit very quickly
OMG. THIS EXACT SCENE HAPPENED TO ME.
Solid post dude. I'd just like to say a thing about the "never betray your senses" stuff.
Trust your gut is generally a great advice, but you gotta be careful tho. If you're a noob, still a little beta in a dry spell whos just starting to understand and apply game, your guts will probably tell you to grab and glue onto the first reasonably attractive girl that gives you a chance. To be possessive of her. Your fear of losing her will make you want to please her in every way.
You gotta be careful of if your feelings are leading you the wrong way. Before you naturally act "alpha" or whatever, first you gotta consciously force yourself into acting and thinking like that, until you kick this emasculating mass of indoctrination from the top of your masculinity and it starts flowing by itself. Trust your gut, but be careful of your feelings.
Thanks g. I meant the senses part as "something's off" rather than "you're going to not get any better so may as well cling on". I don't mean the "mid life crisis" kind of gut feeling, I meant the "get out of here" kind of vibe
•Never settle
ehh, slump busters are a thing. don’t feel bad for fucking n chucking, it’s part of the game imo
Pump and dumping a 5 to get some swagger back isnt the problem. Its when you stick around for 2 weeks, which becomes 2 months, then it becomes 2 years.
That being said at some point your slump busters need to be upgraded as well. If the chick doesnt get your dick rock hard there really no point in fucking her anyway.
To the point, pragmatic, and useful. Thanks for this
My pleasure, enjoy and good luck
Never let them see you work hard.
It's not that you shouldn't try hard (especially if aiming for HB8+) but don't let it show.
Basically, Law 30.
Falls under Never try hard. I definitely agree with you, you have to make it seem natural, like it "just happens"
And thus perpetuating yet another blue pill myth inadvertently.
I never get the part about not being an emotional tampon. I comforted a couple of girls in my life, offering them to stay for the night after they complained about their (ex)boyfriends. Then you embrace them saying "it's going to be all right", touch them gently on their back and before you know it, you are kissing and banging her. Some of the easiest lays I've ever had.
I think they mean don't be always there
Maybe because English is my second language, i Didn't understand What "never shit where you eat" means in this context?
Never sleep with a coworker/someone closely associated with your work
And don’t shit in your temple. That means don’t sleep with girls at your gym.
My understanding of both principles is follow them 90% and when you don’t, be prepared for the possible crap it can cause.
it means, "don't get your meat (sex), where you make your bread ($$)."
It means not to do things that can have potentially bad outcomes you can't distance yourself from. If you bang coworkers for a common example, you now have introduced a volatile element into your means of income, problems that arise can affect your ability to support yourself.
The philosophy is that if you are looking for someone to date and/or have sex with, they shouldn't be so involved with your life which are important/mandatory to you outside of dating and sex. This is keeping your interests separate for less conflict.
For me, online dating works out because if I stop seeing a woman, she is not connected to my friends, work, etc. It's very easy to let her go and would take effort for her to come into my life to retaliate. The same is true for her. She can let you go with less issues and ties between the both of you. In time, the both of you would forget each other because of lack of exposure.
I enjoyed the overall theme of the post, and of-course, all the "Never Do's" are all good advice to follow, just wish you had added more of a detailed explanation, especially for guys who just come onto the sub.
Maybe you were going for a "short and sweet" kinda post, but still, I thought there wasn't enough explanation for some of them.
Your final note did this perfectly.
That was a perfect short and sweet tip.
"Strongly advised against for good reason..."
Okay, what reasons? I'll (give you unsolicited) help on this one -
Never shit where you eat unless you want to be branded a mysoginistic rapist by your home town, or the whole western world if you're a high ranking individual. All a women has to say is "HE RAPED ME" to the right (or the wrong) person and ALL bets are off.
She tells her crazy white-knight friends? You better love the 2nd amendment. She tells HR? you can bet your ass is getting investigated at the very least - your reputation in the company is damaged. If she found you creepy, and other females agree with her fee-fees, your ass is getting suspended or fired.
Think you can avoid that hell by being the CEO? Hell-NO! The bitch will just take it to the court of law.
Imagine your secretary crying to the judge, "he used his authority over me to turn me on. And even though I was sexually attracted to his power and status, I reaaaaaally regret sucking him off! I only did it so he would pay me more!"
BOOM! Rape. Using occupational authority to obtain sexual favors in exchange for promotion - half your net worth gone in just 3 tears and a fake whimper. Is it worth fucking your 25 year old secretary, or 28 year old cubicle co-worker worker, when there are new girls turning 18 years old every single day?
If you STILL think it's worth shitting where you eat, cus your co-worker is a special unicorn, just take all the money you'd lose in court fees and buy yourself some damn hookers. At Least you'd save the time you would have spent in jail.
Edited my post here and there to make it more coherent and friendlier to beginners
How to detect a bipolar girl are people really bipolar? It sounds just like some shaming tactic (In TPR words) to label certain behaviour?
She idealize-devaluate you in a very short time span (could be minutes or hours), and I can assure you, it will drain your energy... Above, I posted my story if you are interested
Idealizing and devaluing is a Borderline personality character flaw. It’s not the same thing as Bipolar.
That's how they're so good at ensnaring unsuspecting betas.
Exactly what I'm going through. She goes from extreme love and worship to absolute hatred and disgusts in what seems like the snap of a finger. It really is soul sucking. I've gotten better at dealing with it but it still hurts a little.
I have visions of hurting her physically. That's how bad it is.
You won't go far with this girl you know... the rollercoaster is unbearable and you can find better prospects for sure. Best of luck to both of us
I'm in the same place. This subreddit opened my eyes to what's happening. When she values you its like you're an absolute God, and it's the best feeling in the world. So when she goes cold, it's so confusing, and I would find myself fighting to attract her again. It was a constant battle, and drained all of my energy. I would 'lose' one week, get bailed on or disrespected, and then 'win' the next weekend, she'd be blowing up my phone, and I kept trying to understand WHY and adjust my behavior. It was basically a full time job. She told me within a few days of knowing her she was BPD, but I had no idea what that really meant. Great sex. HB10 IMO. Very hard to quit.
I believe it’s mostly confusion about how the symptoms of Bipolar Disorder (BD) present themselves. What most people refer to as someone being “bipolar” are usually the symptoms of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). Both disorders share difficulties with affective regulation/mood instability but in different ways for different reasons.
Symptoms are listed and not limited to;
Mood swings
Threatening to chop your dick off
Screaming and shouting
Having the crazy eyes
Maniacal laughter
item 2; is an automatic never talk to that woman again, you're only asking for legal trouble with that one, whether it's police or medical
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That second item is plenty enough to make me put some serious DISTANCE between me and that bitch!
Nice description of my ex gf :p
This.
Also cutting people out of their lives (e.g. if she's had beef with family and friends on and off).
If someone tells you a girl has issues, check into it, because it's probably true.
People can have bipolar tendencies but not be bipolar/meet full criteria to be bipolar
Behavioural psychology student here
Bi polar and borderline personality disorders are related. Different but related. "Behaviours" that people display can simply be taken as an 'indicator' of something else going on, primarily some sort of 'need'. Normal human behaviours like eating food when hungry is one thing. Manipulating other people is a whole other level of reasoning. THAT is a need for control. People with bi polar and BPD need control. They have an innate need to fuck you over and use you.
If you pick up on any behaviour that would suggest she's anything less than sane, follow your dick in another direction.
I know you're just a student but you're spreading misinformation.
This is not what they have in common. Diagnosis for the two is based on different factors. People that are suffering from Bipolar can display a wide range of unfavorable human characteristics but what you said above is not criteria for diagnosis.
Crazy is crazy and stay away from it.
If I was trying to diagnose someone, I wouldn't be making generalisations on Reddit.
True but the same way shouldn't be using your credentials to spread misinformation. What you said is objectively false and tried to pass it off as expert advice. Which perpetuates stigma. Even worse when coming from a 'professional'.
that's how psychiatry diagnoses condition, it's a social service they do labelling/shaming whoever differs, in whatever way.
(Doesn't mean there aren't a lot of unbalanced people who you'd better stand clear of.)
Clinical insanity is a very real thing and should be treated as such.
Psychology is not a labelling service.
I said psychiatry, but you were too ego-involved to notice. I also did not say what psychiatry "is", but the use it has come to serve for the power addicts that rule the field.
I didn't say that there is no "clinical insanity" (let alone that it "should not be treated at such").
I said that the Psychiatric Associations and their DSMs have the goal to help people and their mental health as much as the Guardian, HuffPo, NYT, CNN, WaPo, and the rest of the mainstream media works to the end of keeping people "informed" about "facts".
It's about power, and the corruption power brings about, not about the people. If it works, it is because many can't see it.
It seems like my comment emotionally troubled you, and you needed to criticize it. But to do so, you had to straw-man the entirety of it.
I really didn't think about it for much longer than it took to type that.
Diagnosis are the best method for treatment although imperfect.
Nowhere did I counter that.
I only noted how diagnosis have become an instrument to enforce conformity and to give both a sense of power and real power to a very, very power-hungry class of people, established psychiatry.
Thank you for the post. I'm highly aware of comfort tests. They are very important. However, my humble opinion if you don't have kids with a girl you should skip it. Fuck drama and her problems(emotions). I should Identify emotions of my clients, friends, family. I have many stuff to do.
Apparently I'm too much of a dick/rude when talking to girls which makes highly promising prospects disappear. Have to learn how to be a little human to reach my potential
Very good post, thanks! A couple points really hit home.
My pleasure. I realize now having self awareness and reflecting on yourself is always a painful process. I wish you all the best
Example of Frame 101 :-
Dog : Man serves me, feeds me, bathes me, plays with me, gives me a house, loves me -- man is God!
Cat : Man serves me, feeds me, bathes me, plays with me, gives me a house, loves me -- I am God!
A : I do so much for others. They're my gods.
B : I do so much for others, that makes me a god.
Same thing, different interpretation. My ex was a Cat B. Ok, she had a massive ego, almost narcissistic, but that's not the point. The point is to demonstrate the beliefs that frame your experience of life.
Thing is, at least cultivate a frame where everything that happens to you can be taken in a spirit of growth and abundance.
Holy fuck, the Bipolar one... I just got out of a relationship with a chick with Bipolar.
When she took her meds she was fine, so I'd say that mostly only applies if it is **unmedicated** bipolar.
More posts like this with more real life examples.
Last one ruled out the majority of prospects lol happy plate spinning out there boyos
Solid post dude! Some really key things detailed!
Thank you for the input, much appreciated
Same here. Your points really resonate with my values.
I love that last but not least one. Never stick your dick in crazy.
Never promise crazy a baby -- arrested developement
also, "you can put lipstick on it, but you can't hide crazy" -same
"There's always money in the banana stand" -Arrested Development
"I blue myself" -Arrested Development
Truly a great through provoking show
I appreciate this. I've recently broken more than half of these rules and have been extremely attached to someone. This was a refreshing slap of a reminder to get out of my funk!
Happens to the best of us compadre, don't sweat it. I wish you all the best of luck
It's not just bipolar girls to avoid. Dark triad or any of the myriad of personality disorders, histrionic/borderline personality etc. Cut and run.
I'm an example of rule #1
When it doesn't work out ooh... that interaction or lack of. I guess I'm not comfortable so I don't play it off as nothing happened. Not sure if I will ever be able to return to the playful interaction now that I know there is nothing there ah well. I just develop this peripheral blind spot ha.
Number one is golden. Before I found this sub I started dating a girl at my work. She was 16 years younger than me and the girl everyone wanted. The amount of shit that developed was insane. Not so much in our relationship directly but the shit from everyone else. The jeslous beta orbiters who were trying to get in her pants forever, the jealous bitches who thought it was wierd/gross I was in my 40s banging a hot chick in her 20s. And eventually all the bullshit built up to a point I had to walk away.
And the winner is - Never Game, Let Alone Fuck a Bipolar Girl If you want to open Pandora's box on your dick, be my guest. Just remember the phrase "Abandon all hope, ye who enter" when she's starting to flip shit and is a hair strand away from accusing you of abusing her.
Happened to me once. Destroyed that year and other after it. Dude...NEVER STICK IT IN CRAZY
I still can not stress this enough - Never Game, Let Alone Fuck a Bipolar Girl.
My 13 don'ts are this,
Awesome post - I've been living a Red Pill lifestyle for the last 4 years since I discovered Patrice O'Neal; recently found the thread when Dante Nero was talking about you guys on a radio show.
I love fucking bipolar/crazy girls. I've never had a bad experience with them, but I know what can come of it. I recently stopped with them after reading something else on here about a week ago about some guy that was fucking a chick and she plastered his wall with his and other peoples nudes...
"Never Game, Let Alone Fuck a Bipolar Girl"
Add to this Cluster B personality disorders, if you want to see your life go to crazy town, try a BPD or NPD girl, they make bi-polar people look rational by comparison.
"Don't ever get mad at a girl or anyone"
lmao if a person fucks with me I will be mad at them, and I will not be passive aggressive about it. It's called having a spine. That doesn't mean I will start screaming and throwing my arms at people, but I will do something aboutit. The only people who never have to be angry are the ones who are already at the top and never have to defend themselves, like women and top men, mortals have to fight for what they have, and I don't care how dry her pussy will get because having respect is more important than leaving a girl horny (considering being a passive bitch would indeed make them horny, which I doubt).
Man, I was looking for another post but stumbled upon this gold and I am glad it's not archived yet. Thanks for this, systematic, simple and really true. I need reminders like this to keep me on track. As it turns out, it's really easy to go astray and forget about some core TRP principles so having them neatly bundled for easy reading is a great helping tool.
It was a pleasure writing it, I greatly appreciate the input. I do agree with going astray, I do it sometimes too. Always need to watch yourself
A million thank yous for the vote of confidence and input, I wish you all the best
this post doesn't say a single thing about video games wtf?
I really need some help with being less of an ass. “Don’t be too much of an asshole” really speaks to me because after a roller coaster of events I’ve never been able to stop. How would you guys advice recognizing comfort tests? I’ve built up enough wit to handle them but I need help seeing them because all I can be is mean.
I would be able to help if I myself wasn't the absolute worst person on Earth at tackling comfort tests. I fucked up with the only girl I ever really cared about because, when she told me to go to another girl since she seems keen, I actually fucking did it. Yeah I'm not the brightest and I get rude at times despite being playful and sarcastic. Just keep your chin up and keep trying, I'm sure we'll get the hang of it. I think
Does this include work buildings that have other companies (same 50 storey building, different companies) and gym?
If you want to minimize potential damage so you won't have to go on damage control or value your job then yes, yes they do
You're going to hate me but I disagree with you.
Don't alot of marriages happen through work? I get not shitting where you eat with a chick on your team or department, but if they are in another building then it's no big deal at all.
Haha no worries I don't hate you. Marriage isn't for me neither is jeopardizing employment in any way. You're free to do what you want, I just like to think I'm the voice of reason that shows the other side
Yea the older I get the more people that I see say they met someone through work. You won't believe two people that interviewed me at two different companies made the point they met their wives at their job to try and use it as a selling point.
Hell my current project manager told me the same thing. These companies are so damn big now that I think you can get away with sleeping with co workers even if things don't work out in the end.
Potentially, I still wouldn't risk it though. Odd how they try to plug that in. They say never to mix pleasure and business for a reason
This is wise, red-pilled, afterlife, mystical knowledge I have yet to do should a friend of mine ever decide to do such gibberish. Let's hope it doesn't lead to that.
Not new but reading for a while now. The best i've learned if she is in therapy, has a personality disorder (which is often confused with bipolar). Run, run like a crowd of zombies are after you, like 28 days later run....
Serious question, I will never do it at work, but what about my neighbor down the hall?
As long as she isn't a psycho and you two really enjoy each other, that's fine. Go for it. Expect the unexpected though
What about borderline, narcissist or other cluster B stuff? And how can you recognize it in the context of casual encounters (not too much time between meeting and sex)?
Usually you realize when they want you to realize, when you're in too deep. Narcissistic can be manageable, borderline I wouldn't go for and other cluster B should be strayed away from
It's been my experience that I start to follow a certain path of thinking when I am going soft or starting to become needy . Largely women follow similar patterns, they're all different people but generally there's a certain pattern to the game and flirting that they follow .
Whenever I start to think to myself "She might REALLY ACTUALLY be interested she's just [ make stupid shitty excuse for what I have seen is a sign of a lack of interest before] " I can see that I've let my desires for this to work out overrule my experience of what an actual successful approach / sexual dynamic looks like.
I try to refrain from making decisions based on absolutes " If she's doing X then she's X" however I have decided to rest the burden of disproving my presumptions on her.
Basically if it doesn't look like I'm gonna get laid, and she isn't acting like a woman acts towards me when she wants to get laid by a man like me , I cut my losses. I feel like a huge factor of unhappiness for men and TRPers still learning the ropes is holding on dearly for the written explicit , informal announcement that this woman isn't interested in him and as we all know women are perfectly content to string you along for whatever benefit you offer them if you don't get a solid grasp for what a disinterested woman looks like and bail / re-focus your efforts elsewhere.
I feel really enlightened after reading this, gives general direction and if you've already adapted to game for years it helps maintain you and not falling into traps. Great advice.
Much appreciated, I wish you all the best
Let's light a joint to celebrate. Wish you all the best too.
Made the username when I was a kid since I wanted something ironic, edgy and stupid. Never smoked and don't plan on it. Evan's Quicksilver scenes are awesome though
Don't worry, kush is fine and you also have awesome sex while high. Just be careful when you pick strands, more thc means more fun and more clean weed means less long term side effects. Just needs to be checked often.
What do you mean by when you say "she has a man now"?
The boyfriend would send snaps of himself using her account to guys she snapchatted with that caption, or pull that kind of thing in person to other guys with her near him
How to know when a girl is bipolar/actually crazy? I mean they can act normal at first and then become crazy later. How do you figure it out before you bang her?
This is a good good question. It's hard, but there are signs. One is giving it up the first night and being a little too nice to try and hook you.
Like it's one thing if you have chemistry with a girl. It's another when you're thinking to yourself "I don't think I'm doing too much or anything, but she is crazy attracted to me for some reason"
Those were the traits that I noticed with my crazy ex. At first I just thought I had game, but found out real quick she had a much darker side
great post. I have seen a lot of your comments while lurking around. If I see your name, its as good of quality as an EC to me. Do more posts when you feel
Thank you, that means a lot. Glad I'm able to be at the point where I absorb knowledge and am able to give back and not only retain what I learn/reflect, I am able to help others too. I'll write more posts when I gain more experience/traction, however I've developed a bunch of theories I've ran by girls and in observing which all have been proven to be true
I'll be honest no clue what an EC is although I know it's something admirable
Its an endorsed contributor. You know, the "gods" that haunt this place keeping us all in line with the red pill. Have a big red bar (flair) next to their name so we know that they are right and we are wrong. I'm sure you'll be one soon
The term was on the tip of my tongue yet slipped my mind, that's a big role to fill. Haha thanks, I'm still inexperienced, am not even close to reaching my potential yet
doubt your inexperienced. Can any of us ever feel that we have reached our full potential?
I'm inexperienced in the sense that I reject the girls that go for me/try and get me to fancy them, while I'm lacking greatly in the emotions department and end up pissing off or upsetting every girl. I'll get the hang of it. Eventually. Maybe. Definitely not inexperienced in knowing what's going on, just lack of experience out in the field (I do cold approach, however. No online shit whatsoever)
I am too much of a douche. What material should I read that talks about Comfort tests and charm?
I have no clue man, still trying to figure that out myself
Dating isn't a game. You want to play game? Pick up a video game and play it. Dating is looking for a suitable mate to have a family with, it's serious business.
My guy, it's called gaming since it's using one's own game, a term I'm sure you're familiar with and use too. I never likened this to video games. Sexual strategy would have been more accurate, however gaming and sexual strategy don't always have to do with daring for finding a suitable mate to start a family with
"However, you should never ever ask, you must always command"
Goodbye consent, amirite?
I'll take "Misinterpreting something and twisting it out of context" for 500, Alex
Bets are off, dude. You just admitted that men are there to command and not ask questions. Maybe that wasn't about merely not asking for consent, but even at that, we're still in the "my dick is the boss" mindset from 1920.
Just text me when you get flirting tips that don't present women as pets. Thanks!
You seem like a standup citizen, I'd take you out for drinks sometime
I'd say all your rules are on point except for "Don't Be Too Much of a Dick". Being called a dick is, essentially, being called a man. Men are dicks. And women are pussies. This is the nature of our sexuality... to be huge dicks. If someone calls you a dick, take it as a compliment because they are basically saying "you forcibly enter yourself into what attracts you and you inject your will into it". If someone calls you a huge dick, even better. You can be as big of a dick as you want to be, the world is your oyster. If you hold frame, girls will love it.
It's one thing to be that, it's another when it actually starts to repulse them and prevents me from getting any action. It needs to be a mix of both worlds for the magic to happen
Wtf does this have to do with video games?
All people have some red flags, other wise they wouldn’t be single. I mean you can’t discount a girl because she’s a single mother, surely there’s something else to her personality that got her to have sex with a guy and then be mature enough to attract you?
I can discount a girl who's a single mother. There was a post about that not long ago. How are you at changing diapers?
Advice against sleeping with coworkers is overblown. There's plenty of benefits to doing it along with the potential downsides. Just don't be stupid and you'll be fine.