What i've learned from cold approaching over 350 women

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December 25, 2018

Past 5-6 months I’ve probably cold approached around 300-400 girls

Things I've learned:

  1. Cougars go for young men because they missed out on hypergamy at a young age. Due to FOMO (Fear of missing out)
  2. Cold approaching women at college parties, Clubs is as easy as ever. I cant remember a time i got rejected once. I simply go up to her ask her whatever vibe i feel from her. They will never be angry or mad at you or turn you off. In fact women are more than willing to give you their snapchat if you ask. Ive learned that rejection comes from them giving you their social media but never opening your stories ONCE. they simply just used you for validation.
  3. Location is very important part in where you cold approach you have a way better success rate @ parties, clubs, and bars but places like the grocery store, shopping, a park will catch a women off guard and she will be creeped out. But when you display high value she then will be interested to hear what else you have to say and honestly its not worth the effort i hate giving girls free validation and attention. my success rate at parties was 9/10. outside of that environment 2-3/10. Las Vegas is probably the easiest place in the world to game and cold approach. Law 4: Always say less than necessary
  4. The cure to stop being a beta (which 85-90% of men in the USA suffer from) is to take action and boost your testosterone by lifting heavy ass weights 4-5x a week. Women are attracted to masculine as men are attracted to feminine women. So do whatever it takes to boost your test (I don't advice steroids or TRT). Eat healthy fats (avocados, grass fed beef, eggs, almonds, etc) lift, lift, lift, avoid soy, stop watching porn, and stop fapping everyday. Its proven fact that your testosterone gets a small boost when you stop fapping for a week. Before TRP i was 60% alpha 40% beta and how i cured my betaness was going to the gym 5-6x a week. Instead of being the average guy to make excuses and complain I went out and did the work and what i sowed i reaped. Law 25: Re-create yourself
  5. As i got more experience it became very very easy to spot out damaged goods, alpha widows, and BPD. These girls are the empty ones who post nudes or sexual pics on social media or are constantly seeking validation to fill the emptiness. These girls are usually the ones with tattoos, wear lots of make up (to hide the insecurities), wear tight clothes and try to reveal as much as possible, the bigger the hoop earning the bigger the hoe, they give you the thousand cock stare, they have piercings outside of their ears, they talk about their exes, they post on social media EVERYDAY. Damage pair bond is real and its affecting the younger generation more than ever and its because everything is become accepted and apps like tinder dont help, Hollywood music artist like Cardi B & Nicki Minaj promote the dominate female and how being a whore is how to get ahead. The divorce rate in the last 10 years is up 60% and its only going to grow higher.
  6. Men SMV doesn't peak till 40. I'm in my mid 20s and i know that if i was in my early 20s i wouldn't be able to have this much success due to my facial features (women like masclinality) so my advice to the young men out here know you are super blessed to discover TRP at a young age. As you see i approach this many women and i dont feel anything special about it. Just like how rich people say money doesnt bring you happiness its the same with women. I didnt find a wife or someone who can raise my kids so i gained nothing out of this. So focus on becoming your best version of yourself, try out monk mode, hit the gym, read as much as you can, learn the stock market and cryptocurrency cycles. When you go out and have fun dont just game girls go out and befriend bros. read as much of the TRP as you can, find a spiritual life, and find balance. Dont rely on anything like drugs,alcohol,women to bring you happiness because its all temporary. Law 29: Plan all the way to the end
  7. Young women are more damaged as ever. Pick your poison 1 Hot 2 Single 3 Sane. You can only pick 2
  8. If you meet a girl and make plans with her and she flakes ghost her and dont even bother watching her stories or trying to get in contact with her and watch her hamster spin. If she sees youre high value she will hit you back up (FOMO). this works especially with high ego, low attention span millennial girls. (Law 8: Make other people come to you – use bait if necessary)
  9. When your friends or others see your success with women they will start treating you like a god. But they are just using you for what you can provide and offer(clout chasers). Dont be confused and think they are your friends they are your enemy. (Crab in a bucket) Drop your loser friends (beta males) Low-T attitudes are contagious. Being friends with emasculated men that are pussy-whipped and passive is toxic. The same goes for your friends that do nothing but drink beer and watch sports highlights on the weekends. You are the average of the 5 people you spend the most time with, and high-T men have high-T friends Law 2: Never put too much trust in friends, learn to use enemies
  10. Women are more attracted to you when they see you with other girls. It hamsters in their brain what does she see in him? I don’t really know how to put this in words but it’s true

Please don't forget to read Part 1 I commented it below.

My background and stats. African/Caribbean.. in my mid 20s, Live in the liberal SF Bay Area, 6'0..

To those asking how do i know i approach this much? My snapchat stories went from 40 views to 300s and majority of the people i added were females.

PLEASE PLEASE READ 48 LAWS OF POWER. Become the Machiavellian women desire. Jesus Christ is King! Happy holidays to you and your family!

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Title What i've learned from cold approaching over 350 women
Author Auxfite
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Date 25 December 2018 03:54 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]JW_2100 points101 points  (22 children) | Copy

Good post. Except I find women in their 30s/cougars want just sex a lot of the time. Seems like women in their 20s want marriage/fairytale. Probably location dependent as well - I’m in the Midwest where people get married early.

[–]omega_dawg9334 points35 points  (19 children) | Copy

this is absolutely true.

women have the disney version of life over their heads too. but past 32, they wake-up and realize that their fairy tale is just that... a fairy tale. marriage & relationships are hard work and NOT like a movie.

men get sold a line of blue pill bullshit, and so do women.

also, women don't reach their sexual prime until age 32. that strong desire for companionship + higher sex drive + realizing the disney fairy tale is a lie = hot MILF sex.

personally, i find it harder to bag women 35 to 45. most are into their careers and only date men who "know exactly what they want," meaning, she's ready to settle and your time to decide if she's the one has a hard stop. note: it's not about what she wants... she will settle for just about any decent guy.

she makes it about what YOU want, but she won't be there for too long fucking & sucking like a 20 yr old while you remain undecided. when she asks, "where is this relationship going," you better have a ring or know where the door is located. she's done.

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[–]five-acorn18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy

You must be young, but honestly even in high school, there were a ton of 32+ year old teachers I'd fuck. And no, they weren't all moms either.

32 isn't even all that old. Hell I'd fuck Tomay or Demi Moore in their 40s and many others. And then some.

Having such sexual hangups that aren't even that extreme, is essentially, the same thing as only liking Chicken Tendies. Which means you only like socially approved, generic sex with white 18-22 year old women. Anything experimental whatsoever is "icky". Well, more for me then. But you should probably expand your mind and tastes beyond "Chicken Tendies" for your own sake.

Also let's get real. The young girls have nice bods, and that's nice, but they usually suck at sex, and the conversation is frequently boring. I don't care about your "major."

[–]omega_dawg9351 points52 points  (2 children) | Copy

so i should have the same tastes as you... and be your age. cool. np.

I'm probably older than your father... and even tho i prefer older women (32 to 55) for me... read that 'ME," i can still bag the occasional youngster (under 28) for ME.

I'll tell you a secret but promise not to tell anyone. girls from 18 to 22 are a complete headache. you won't learn this till you're older... asking yourself, "why did I put up with all that shit... wasting all that time?"

sure there are easy girls but overall, compared to older women who know what they want, there's no comparison (to ME).

i promise you... i give no fucks what you like or what you think about where i insert my dick. you have your own... worry about that one.

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Would have been good to differentiate between reproductive and sexual prime. A girl being fuckable doesnt mean shes young enough to healthily produce a child, or has a pair bonding ability undamaged to the point where she can form one with you in order to raise that child effectively.

[–]omega_dawg932 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

sexual prime for women is two-fold imo. one is where she's in her best years to reproduce a healthy baby... the other is her years where she fully embraces her sexuality for her enjoyment.

that can happen at any age (above 18 of course). as for pair bonding, that's a tough one. i know girls that were absolute sluts thru hs & college... numbers well above 50 cocks; they're happily married soccer moms now.

meanwhile i know women who "saved themselves" or got married very young (under 20) who often asked, "did i miss out on too much fun by settling down so young?"

those are the ones that hypergamy really control bc they feel they've missed out. after a divorce or just because, those women typically go crazy on cock from all their newfound freedom and abundant attention, esp if they use social media.

pussy is so easy to get nowadays that it has no value (to women). what they want is attention, attention, & more attention.

there will be no pair bonding from the woman who is constantly searching for the "next big thing," esp if that thing is bigger $ and/or better sex. social media is destroying women imo... they don't want to pair bond. marriage is just a tick on the "been there done that" check-off list.

personally, i love sluts... not my purpose or duty to sway their behavior. they can deal with the fallout from allowing a feral vagina control their behavior... using it to gather attention & likes on the computer.

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[–]omega_dawg9315 points16 points  (6 children) | Copy

if you can't find any good looking women above 29, I'd hate to live where you are. plus girls are at the wall at 22? wtf?

Houston Texas to New Orleans LA, is full of good looking women... 18 to 45.

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[–]i_have_a_semicolon2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sunny... Do these women look old or something? A women who does creams and exercises will be hot at 27-35

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[–]i_have_a_semicolon0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Idk, about 35 but I've seen 35 year olds who do not have wrinkles or fine lines. I would assume that someone who has a "baby face" and takes good care of themselves can pass themselves off as 5 years younger at least.

[–]1ozaku73 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

I would rather drive on a Chevrolet Spark with Michael Schumacher than Amy Schumer in a Lambo Aventador.

You obviously didn't fuck any woman so far, or you are user to mediocre sex. I had girls in their 20's which were downright boring, also one in her 30's who literally laid there like a corpse and didn't want to do anything.

Then I had this 40+ lady, she had wrinkles, little bit more fat than the eye desires and nice fake tits that make them look like 30 instead of 45. But for ducks sake she knew how to fucking turn me on and she wasn't even fucking me at that point. The gave me a "blowjob" with her neck which felt much better than the average blowjob out there, sucked my fingers during it, ravaged my neck with her mouth.

She knew where to push my buttons and far exceeded the average or higher than average 20-30 year olds, which range from "I don't to anything" to "I have no idea what I'm doing" to "I know a few tricks".

Older women simply aren't so insecure and just want to fuck a nice piece of meat. Plus they have the experience.

Yes, 20 year old girls can be great aswell, but that 45 year old is number one on my list. It's not how fast your car is, it's about how you ride it. If the girl is sexually attractive, whether a 6 or a 10, all that makes the difference is skill.

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[–]1ozaku76 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

So is fucking lazy potatosacks. You are in your young stage where you need ass and tities to get aroused. It doesn't work for me anymore, I need a woman who knows how to turn a man on. A naked body doesn't cut it for me anymore.

It's because of idiots like you why women think that lying there like a corpse is acceptable sex.

[–]chrispp10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

not everyone is chad enough for young pussy

[–]CharacterReindeer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

There are a stupid amount of women who watche too much disney.

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY56 points57 points  (9 children) | Copy

Holy fucking shit dude, point 5 is spot on with at least 5-10 girls I know. I see social media in general as just a big validation tank for girls, that the social media networks draw us in with them and use that to run advertisements. I grow more away from it every day as that truth just seems to keep echoing louder the more I see it over and over again.

But dude, tattoos, half nudes, nipple piercings, tight clothes, posting daily, god you have fucking nailed one of them in particular to a T that I’ve been watching like a train wreck recently. I never messaged her but just watch the snap stories and such. I notice that she is most likely completely miserable in person, but I do like to see her boobies. The longer I watch, the more I realize just how desperate she/they all actually are. She gets tattoos and piercings to have another excuse to post another lewd pic, so get another 100 likes, to feel like she’s worth something. 10 half-nudes later, Get a boyfriend, delete it all, break up in a week, rinse and repeat. She’s completely destroyed her body with hideous tattoos and this point too. Like I said, it feels like a train wreck, I keep watching just because she seems to be proving TRP on the daily and she has no clue. I’ve been putting a stop loss on how much I let myself even watch, though, because it is so inessential to my life. Just for kicks at this point.

[–]Auxfite[S] 62 points63 points  (7 children) | Copy

Social media is like porn for women. Us men love sex and women love attention & validation it gets worst when they are damaged goods or BPD

[–]SUCK_MY_DICTIONARY50 points51 points  (0 children) | Copy

“social media is like porn for women”

Dude... not sure if that’s something people say ‘round these parts but that’s a fucking home run of a statement.

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[–]Lucid_Witness3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

They do, but they also love sex more than us.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

downvoted by poor saps who haven’t had a gal let loose with them.

Gals do love sex more than us. We get a one & done. I can put them in endless orgasm state till my forearms give out. Who has more fun?

[–]Pestilence19118 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ever notice how when women check their snapchats, they check "who" and "how many" viewed them.

Its like a drug. Also all women have tons of beta orbiters.

[–]Auxfite[S] 195 points196 points  (16 children) | Copy

Too those who missed out on part 1. This is what I’ve learned from my first 100-150 attempts

  1. About 50-75% of them are in a relationship or married. In my experience It’s almost impossible to run into a hb8-10 that isnt in a relationship/married or has a shit ton of beta orbiters
  2. Women do not cheat as much as trp say they do. A lot of women gave me huge iois but still stay loyal and never caved in (I don’t mess with married women I just shit test them)
  3. iois mean EVERYTHING. If she’s not giving eye contact, turns her back, not engaging in talking back to you, walks away, doesn’t smile SHES NOT INTERESTED 95% of the time. Body language is everything.
  4. Average women shit test more than hot women. This is because insecurities. They get approach a lot more so to pick their candidates you gotta pass the test. These women tend to be the girls who always wear make up.
  5. Women over 30 are no longer looking for just sex like younger women. They’re looking for someone to provide for her and her kids. If you don’t have money they won’t bother with you. She’s had her fair share of alphas and just wants to deal with beta bux.
  6. Frame is everything. When you’re confident and not showing any body language of nervousness or shyness a women will sense this and automatically assume you have high SMV. This is something you can’t fake because a women will know.
  7. Never flirt or try to game women when there’s strangers watching/nearby. They don’t want to be seen as a slut so they will distance themselves to avoid embarrassment of being judged. Don’t believe me? Go do it and watch her body language.
  8. Law of attraction is real. I noticed out of the girls who gave me their Snapchat/number the ones who i ended up with shared almost the same interest as me.
  9. More testosterone = more bitches. To cut this short lift 5-6x days a week. Testosterone is what turns you to a boy to a man. Rejection is nothing approaching women builds confidence and character.
  10. Women with tattoos were the easiest to approach. No brainer? Women with tattoos tend to be more masculine and have stronger frame than the ones without them and they are always the slutty ones with high n count. Majority of them were damaged goods. Of course they were the majority of the ones who I ended up messing with (easy)
  11. Location is everything. My success rate in Vegas was like 9/10 because women know when they travel no one will know they will be sluts. But back home it is 1/10.

Why I went MGTOW https://youtu.be/9BqQeGC4-W0

[–]0x9A30D7C49714D9800053 points54 points  (2 children) | Copy

A lot of married women are just playing, they like to remind themselves they still could if they wanted to, and maybe one day and several drinks into it they might, but not today.

[–]IAMABIASEDSCIENTIST12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Our attention is validation for them which is enough but remember hypergamy is their morals

[–]1ozaku75 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Flirting it fun, take it as a game and don't cry over loss.

[–][deleted] 97 points98 points  (5 children) | Copy

It really is amazing how much a womans behavior will change based on location. For example - traveling abroad vs at home. Completely different person.

[–]Auxfite[S] 75 points76 points  (3 children) | Copy

Yup I learned the reason being is because no one will know when she’s abroad that she’s slutting it up. But at home she’s at risk of being judged by people that know of her.

[–]greenlittleman53 points54 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or maybe women go abroad mainly to slut out. Why else would she go to "have fun" in a different city?

[–]rebelde_sin_causa22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

This clears up a mystery that has puzzled me for a long time. I admit I am dense. I must be, to not have seen this before.

[–]1ozaku76 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't need to pull 100+ women to find that out. You can be a virgin and put 1 and 1 together. Or just observe carefully.

[–]p3n1x7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is no reputation to worry about when away from home.

[–]ElegantCyclist27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women over 30 are no longer looking for just sex like younger women

I'm considerably over age 30 and this isn't true at all.

It varies a lot by the woman.

Women over age 30 who have partied a lot and are tired of partying, are looking for a provider guy.

Women over age 30 who have gotten out of a marriage or LTR... watch out. They are ready to fuck.

[–]keenostreef38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

Women do not cheat as much as trp say they do. A lot of women gave me huge iois but still stay loyal and never caved in (I don’t mess with married women I just shit test them)

Because you weren't "really" going with the mindset of stealing them. (Note: very few men are degenerate enough to ruthlessly pursue another man's woman. It gives bad vibes and bad energy, like stepping on 13 cracks on Friday the 13th, before passing a black cat on the way to arriving at the local casino craps table wearing a shirt with the word "7" all over it).

The IOIs meant they wanted you to take them. But the ball was in your court, so that they feel little to no guilt. And if they knew that YOU knew they were "taken", they expected you to figure out how to snatch them and make it psychologically comfortable.

[–]tchower5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is so true man!! Thank you for posting!

[–]FractalNerve2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Point 10. Tattoo = slut. Honestly I naively think the same, but I know my subjective opinion has no real sample size to judge. But can you elaborate more on that?

Point 4. Really, I think this is your only jewel here. Average girls are more trouble, if you can't pass their shit test. Does that conclude with, better skip to 7-9s who have less of such shit tests?

[–]Auxfite[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Tattoos show a sign of masculinity

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[–]Ponder327717 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good post OP. Thanks for sharing and good way to sum it all up.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime45 points46 points  (17 children) | Copy

Although we disagree on religion, this is the sort of practical advice I was talking about. Good Post.

my success rate at parties was 9/10.

To expand on this.

The way modern youth culture has developed, bars/clubs/social venues are the meat markets. Everyone goes there to pick up (partly why it's so unacceptable to have a partner who goes there on the reg). There's tons of social lube in the form of alcohol and a safety net of friends. There's certainly enough to go around for most guys to atleast get a piece of the action.

You simply need to be somewhat sociable. Get jacked, make friends, meet girls and you'll be be coming home with a juicy piece of fillet, or even 3 day old mutton, but it's a start.

Those not having sex are more than likely sitting at home playing xbox and swiping on tinder, in the hopes of avoiding working on their social skills. If you don't like going out, that's fine, but be aware that you're avoiding the meat market, and will have to settle for what scraps get tossed your way, if any.

Youngsters are very socially autistic when it comes to romancing outside of this realm, which makes your mountain to climb all that more difficult.

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[–]Lucid_Witness14 points15 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are 23 and already own a small business. That is something to elaborate further.

[–]p3n1x7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Swiping fucks with your mind, pay attention and you will catch yourself doing it subconsciously with other things. Example, use Tinder for 15 mins solid, then jump to IG, SC, Tumblr, etc... Check your scrolling behaviors.

Leave that shit alone for a day. Go to any type of gathering place solo and then just socialize. Talk to anyone about anything, this will build social frame like the gym builds many other parts of your frame.

Be comfortable with yourself, don't be a group sheep relying on the Lion in the group to lead you to the hunting grounds. Remember, people aren't watching you as intently as your ego believes. Rejection is simply a failed take down (hunting), there is plenty more. Rejection really carries no weight. Sometimes girls are on their period, emotionally negative, have to take a SHIT, or just tired. They are human, rejection isn't always about YOU.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Quickest, easiest way to meet people is through a hobby of some sort. Gym, mma, golf etc. I've met some of my closest friends that way.

Take a class, learn something new, a language,a skill, that way you already have something in common with the rest of the students/people there. Get chatting to some of them.

You'll almost certainly feel like a tool at first but eventually it becomes easier.

Bars can work too, but slightly tougher for friends.

It's great for women, they'll be most receptive in that environment, but don't limit yourself, cold approach wherever you go.

[–]James_Rustler_4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

First you have to learn how to not be a room troll. Need to start socializing before you start gaming. Get yourself used to talking to people, like at a local university that allows community members to sign up for classes. Or church, yoga, kickboxing, etc. Anything that gets you out and about and talking.

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You wont find “friends” in a bar. You can create a social network that is useful for a number of reasons. You have to get yourself out there tho, chat up the dude besides you, make jokes playing pool, etc. Build up some social credit then start leveraging it for better returns.

tldr: go talk to people (anywhere) & make human connections

[–]Crixusgannicus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good guns(no homo).

You're fucking with your own frame unnecessarily. Your business frame is DIRECTLY transferable to your game.

As you become aware acquiring a new customer was actually only different from acquiring a new female in your mind, what do you realize is different on the inside now?

[–]MustNotFfff0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I strongly advise against going to bars and clubs to make friends, unless you want that lifestyle. A lifestyle which involves drinking too much, maybe drugs, and certainly spending a lot of money and time instead of improving yourself.

Another thing is, regarding hookups, if that's your goal, I would still advise against bars & clubs since you said you're pretty shy and anxious. Sure, you could use liquid courage to make friends and secure hookups, but the downsides I mentioned earlier still apply. Just use Tinder and other apps. You're a good looking guy so you should be able to beat out a lot of the competition on the apps.

In any case, kudos for appearing to have your shit together at 23. Just don't fuck it up!

[–]yolkedmonkey-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

join your local RSD inner circle. you'll meet cool guys, make friends and pick up chicks

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

So what do I do? I’m 18, I live in a relatively small town and I go to community college.

Bars and clubs are a no go because I’m not 21, tinder isn’t something I want to get into, online dating just isn’t something I want. I rather have a real life interaction with a girl.

[–]Endorsed ContributorKeffirLime3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

There's surely social gatherings around college that you could involve yourself in. Serves the same meat market principle.

Other than that cold approach girls on campus/anywhere until you're of age.

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Ok, I did this a little late sadly, I was talking to this girl in my math class but it was the last day of classes and I didn’t think to ask for her Snapchat. It isn’t too bad though, I’m glad I stepped out of my comfort zone to talk to a girl I didn’t know at all.

[–]SalporinRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah there was a period this where I just didn't go out to bars/clubs for a solid 3-4 months and my only lays were off hinge. Luckily my dating app game is pretty good so I did okay with myself.

As a 22 year old who had graduated college already where the hell was I even supposed to meet women in public besides at bars/clubs? I daygamed all the time in college because there were tons of girls walking around campus but it's not the same after graduation.

[–]Orbiter4510 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

"7. Young women are more damaged as ever. Pick your poison 1 Hot 2 Single 3 Sane. You can only pick 2

I like that, 3 is a unshakable requirement. I would rather do with out that stick my dick in crazy. I've doe it 2 many times.

What seems to be happening, as I'm making my improvements, building my confidence, and health. Women seem to react to me entirely differently. I don't need to compromise, I can be friendly, and open, because I'm confident I'm making a reasonable effort.

[–]Flawless448 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is so true its stupid. The quality of life difference is insane. Its like going from poverty to someone making 100k a year.

You can't have everything you want, but you can get some really nice shit.

[–]five-acorn2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That's bullshit. If she's hot and sane, but not single, then she's fucking dating SOMEBODY. He apparently "has it all." What a bullshit saying lol

[–]Orbiter450 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your welcome to your opinion.

To offer some thought.

If she's sane, she's not gonna get caught, with you or with your buddy. The point is that she's not gonna create drama, and stir things ups.

If she's hot and sane, but not single, then she's fucking dating SOMEBODY.

All men, are betafied to some degree or another. If she can break his frame, he is nothing to her.

[–]tobular8 points9 points  (2 children) | Copy

What do you post on your snapchat stories? Looking for ways to improve my game via snapchat as I don't use it

[–]Auxfite[S] 15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

I don’t plan anything to post i just post my lifestyle of whatever I’m doing so I can’t answer that. But I’ve learned to stop posting everyday.. the more you are seen and heard of the more common you appear.

[–]keenostreef30 points31 points  (6 children) | Copy

Become the Machiavellian women desire. Jesus Christ is King!

One of these things is not like the other.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers0017 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Lol for real. OP writes up long post detailing how to be a hedonistic smooth operator crushin puss 2019 style — closes post with Jesus is king. Lulz.

[–]AyYoMofo0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Fuck you faggots for insulting The Christ God. May you tiny dicks rot off and you be punished by trans ass dick for life you mother bitch

[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I didn’t insult anything you silly goose. I was just pointing out the incongruency in OPs post.

[–]AyYoMofo0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

There is no "incongruency." There is only your clear disdain and public insult for The Christ God. May you be raped by one thousand jackals you blue pilled bitch

[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes OP is incongruent by preaching very worldly principles about how to fuck bishes but then says Jesus is lord. That is incongruent.

Meanwhile I have said nothing against any religious belief.

[–]Auxfite[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t advocate anyone becoming a machiavellian to get girls I use this as a defense strategy since women are manipulaters. Sucks it has to be this way in 2019!

[–]Rkingpin7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like this a lot brother. You've stepped out into the field and confirmed the damaged state of affairs for this generation of women.

Everything you've said is true. What we must do now is become the best men we can.

[–]omega_dawg9312 points13 points  (6 children) | Copy

great post, young brother... thanks.

#10 couldn't be more true. all of my friends are married. when we hang-out at sports bars (we're too old to be clubbing), those guys get a lot of unsolicited attention from women.

i get my fair share without a wedding band, but i have to try; they just sit back knowing women will flock to them.

so i did an experiment... went out and bought a wedding band. guess what happened? lol. like my friends, they just gravitated towards me at sports bars, grocery stores, etc. i asked one woman why (after telling her i was single), and she replied:

"women are attracted to wedding bands bc it shows that you're married, STABLE, and have demonstrated that you can commit & provide." iow, actions... actions... actions... not just words.

my reply: "but he's married and NOT available to you."

her reply: "if she's lacking in any department, he's available." that's all you need to know about women right there.

[–]p3n1x1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ring = provider. "I will steal him away, and get his services ". You don't need the attention of these nest builders. They might fuck you to strengthen their own ego, but anything long term fun is rare. There are plenty of youn girls who prefer older men, period.

The worst thing you can do is behave like a married guy when you aren't. A single guy hanging out with married guys is never a good look.

[–]omega_dawg934 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

friends are friends... married or not.

it's not like they have a disease bc they're married, and in the big picture, long lasting friendships mean more to me than whether or not some girl approaches me in a sports bar.

it's never a good look to dump your buddies in a search for a piece of ass. women cum and women go.

[–]p3n1x0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Dumping friends was never my point. I was trying to show that logistics matter. You were the one questioning it.

[–]omega_dawg931 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

none of us are starving for pussy or looking for it when we go to sports bars... we are there for the game(s). GEAUX SAINTS!!!

i was just pointing out how the single ladies there migrate to the married guys and how putting on a wedding band(I'm single) proved my point to them.

logistics do matter... i agree. but what happens when you're out enjoying yourself and not really searching (or seem thirsty) for females?

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You are attracting the wrong women with a. Wedding band. Like another user said, post wall women looking for a provider.

Women don’t really flock to married men like you claim. These married men are essentially “betas” of the dating world hence why they committed. Don’t get me wrong there are some alpha bucks out there but most married men put a ring on the first girl to give them pussy

[–]omega_dawg930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lol. we are just a group of older guys... not trying to attract anyone. pay attention to their behavior not ours.

like i stated, we go to watch the games and those women (young & old, various races) just migrate to and seek attention from the married guys.

as it is stated by many, "women would rather share a good man (alpha and/or stable provider) than to have a beta bitch man all to themselves."

and i think your assumption that most married guys put a ring on their first piece of ass doesn't apply anymore... it's not the 1930s.

[–]furcryingoutloud72 points73 points  (32 children) | Copy

Men SMV doesn't peak till mid 30s

I laughed -- really hard -- when I saw that.

Snapchat? Ok. Don't do social if you want to stay mysterious. Let them call you or text you. I've been doing software development for 20 years. I have never had a social presence except for my companies and websites. I can disappear in five minutes. When someone gets my attention, they are thrilled.

Nothing wrong with test. It's like 420, bad until it's legal. And I suspect it isn't legal because the benefits would take a huge bite out of pharma's profits. So don't ever do it Mkaay? It's -- cough - cough -- really bad for you.

BTW, it's woman for one woman and women for many women.

BTW, I'm 55, still pulling 20 yr olds.

Pick your poison 1 Hot 2 Single 3 INSANE Sane FTFY. You can only pick 2

Sane women are unicorns.

I'll take 1 and 2, and prefer the hugely insane ones. I love me a psychopath. Playing them is like playing a mad guitar at a rock concert. Not for the weak of heart.

Check your Vitamin D3 levels! If they are under 100, you're doing it wrong.

Testosterone should be at the higher end of the scale. Doesn't matter how you get to it, just get to it. Watch your aggressiveness carefully if you decide to imbibe. It can be a huge downfall.

Anyone wanting some more advice. Plan your financial future NOW. Know exactly where you want to be at 30, 40, 50. DO NOT leave that to chance. Shoot for Mars, you'll reach the moon. Stop chasing pussy. Work on everything else and pussy will come. Same as money. Don't chase it.

Life begins at 40. You'll agree with me when you're 40. We're all dumbasses until we hit 40. Enjoy the ride.

[–]RedHoodhandles7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for spitting some truth. I almost thought I was the only one who felt the cringeyness.

[–]Captain_Quick10 points11 points  (14 children) | Copy

Check your Vitamin D3 levels! If they are under 100, you're doing it wrong.

Why 100? Normal range is 30-100 ng/mL according to my doctor's office. Granted, that's what they say is "sufficient". They wouldn't be concerned unless someone's above 150. I agree that getting it checked is very important though, I was around 22. No wonder I felt like crap for so long. And even then they only said that that was "insufficient," not even deficient.

[–]-Maksim-13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy

I tested at 142ng/dL at 22 y/o. Above and outside the range. I still hated life even after cardio/lifting.

I’m not an expert, but it’s safe to say we don’t really talk about mental illness a ton around here. That’s fine, no big deal - but going on bupropion fixed my energy levels and didn’t leave me feeling like an antidepressant zombie like SSRIs can.

Don’t make the mistake of writing off potential hereditary mental illness. Seeing a psychiatrist to balance brain chemicals (after diet/exercise) is a diabetic needing insulin.

That being said, aim for a younger male doc if possible.

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[–]-Maksim-1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It really makes you wonder what kind of sick twisted shit some of us have done in our mothers’ womb then, huh?

I hope you’re not in the education field or you forgot your /s

[–]Flawless443 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Modern medicine is concerned with preventing disease.

That is very different from maximizing performance.

Example: the difference between an adequate testosterone level, and the level you really want to have.

[–]Crixusgannicus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

NO. Modern medicine is concerned with making money off disease. They cure you. They get paid once. They treat you forever. They get paid over and over and over again. Til you die. Maybe from the "treatment"

[–]cafeitalia12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

He just threw a number out there. Numbers make you look like you know something because most people will not bother to research. Whatever the medical community states, I would go with. Best way to get your vit d is through the sun and it doesn't take hours and hours every week.

[–]Flawless440 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That will damage your skin. Easiest way is just a pill once a day 5000IU of D3 once a day and it won't wrinkle your face or anything else you care about.

[–]majaka12342 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

The "range" is made up by taking all men's testosterone - sick, young, old, fat, ripped etc. And then plotting that on a bell curve.

First of all you need breakdown by age...

Second of all tell your doctor to get fucked if he is saying "yes it's low but you're in range"

If you're a mid 20s guy with the equivalent testosterone of a 60 year old you can still be "in range".

Some basic googling will pull up studies with age breakdown but by default labs are NOT done with age being taken into account.

You also want to test free testosterone, albumin and SHBG as these are all important aspects of getting a TRUE picture.

My testosterone was absolutely fucking through the roof... But my SHBG was three times the normal and equivalent to a 70 year old man.

High testosterone according to every doctor except for the fact that SHBG binds it all up and when it's three times higher than what it should be you actually have low free testosterone....

But hey, I was in range!

(currently on TRT and feeling the best I've ever felt. No depression, mood swings, high libido, good recovery at the gym, massive appetite again.)

[–]clausternn0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

(currently on TRT and feeling the best I've ever felt. No depression, mood swings, high libido, good recovery at the gym, massive appetite again.)

Yeah but what about when you stop TRT? Wouldn't you feel like shit?

My testosterone is low but I'm "in range" like you said lol. Reading this thread I wish I had asked the doctor for a D3 test as well but whatever, I feel like I spend enough time in the sun every day.

Total test: 420.3 ng/dL

Free test: 8.65 ng/dL (according to the lab the reference range is 3.17 to 19.04 ng/dL)

Bioavailable test: 202.8 ng/dL (reference range 80.7 to 447.1)

27yo, 73.5 kg (162 lbs), 10% body fat

[–]majaka12342 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't stop TRT... It's for life.

Designed to address a physiological issue that results in an imbalance of hormones.

My SHBG is too high and unless there's some cure to that, then the only option is TRT for life.

TRT is not the same as a cycle... In fact the amount that body builders inject is between 10x to 20x the therapeutic dosage.

What's your SHBG? Free is on the lowish range so that should be where you investigate.

Sometimes it is a vitamin imbalance which you should fix first.

Only in cases where there isn't a therapy and you've tried things like proper diet, exercise and sleep then TRT is an option. It definitely shouldn't be the first solution anyway.

[–]furcryingoutloud4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

I placed the link for the book I read below. You will find plenty of studies in the book itself, over 30k citations of studies, yes, that is 30k citations. One of them studied healthy 20 somethings in Florida, lifeguards who work in the sun all day. They hovered at around 120. I have nothing to do with this book except I bought it, and did the 100k IU per day thing until I got mine to 120. It needs to be said that this needs to be done with care, and a side dose of Vitamin K. The Vitamin K is essential, and required. A doctor willing to give you blood tests, or access to blood tests is also essential.

In the beginning of the book, the guy goes on about a worldwide conspiracy about Vitamin D3, that could be true, or not, depends on how conspiracy minded you are. For me, I don't really care, I saw it work. At least for me, it did absolute wonders.

Point is I never felt better in my life than when I was in the over 100 range. Circumstances have made me reverse back into the stoneage, but the plan is to get back on track health wise and gym wise in 19. Wish me luck. And spend the four bucks and read that book.

Also, don't believe everything printed about steroids. Get your Vitamin D# above 100, get your testosterone above 900 and then come back here and tell me how you feel.


[–]RedHoodhandles0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

The 1 star comments on amazon are enough for me to neither externally supplement D3 nor to buy this rubbish.

[–]majaka12342 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

No need to buy the book but vit d3 is incredibly important for lots of processes in your body so you would be a moron not to get it checked and push for a higher number.

Supplements are cheap as fuck and effective over several months.

[–]furcryingoutloud0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hey you do your own rubbish man. Have at it. When you know it all, you've got nothing else to learn. Good luck with that.

[–]jazerac1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Truth right here brother. I own a testosterone replacement clinic. The difference men feel on TRT and optimized levels of vitamin D, DHEA, estrogen, etc... is night and day. I see these guys come in looking like death, high pitched voices, being bossed around by their bitch wives and no muscle be transformed into a glowing confident MAN in a matter for 3-6 months. IF YOU ARE OVER THE AGE OF 35, CONSIDER TRT.

And yes, younger girls these days like older men because there are so many BOYS out there. Older men have their shit together, are confident and not needy.

[–]furcryingoutloud0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Thanks for coming in and offering up some support. Sometimes I feel like I am an island with the backlash I get for telling the truth.

I was 49 when I did my first cycle. And I'll never look back.

And yes, younger girls these days like older men because there are so many BOYS out there. Older men have their shit together, are confident and not needy.

So much truth to this statement. I haven't dated a woman my age since I was 30. I would have thought that would end going into my 50's, uhm, no, still pulling them young. Needy? Yes, I NEED them to get the fuck out of my house/life when I'm done with them.

[–]jazerac1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

LMAO. Most of the guys here are in their mid 20s, they have no idea....

I am 35, and like you, I chase 20-25yo women. Women over 30 have to much baggage.

Girls love a high T man. You just look and act more confident. Gets em wet beyond belief. Plus you feel like a million bucks. Every man should be on it.

[–]Lucid_Witness0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

“Life begins at 40”. Mirabile dictu.

[–]Alphalizard19900 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks old wise one. Much respect.

[–]Appex1-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy

How can you be in your 50's and pull 20-year-olds? I know for a fact that young women want that 25-yo ripped pool boy, and it's not that these 40-year-old men can pull a 20-yo woman if there is a 25-yo guy she can choose first.

[–]furcryingoutloud7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know for a fact that young women want that 25-yo ripped pool boy

We better tell that to these 20 yr old's I've been pulling. I mean, if you know that as a fact, then these girls are disrespecting your facts.

[–]p3n1x4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

t's not that these 40-year-old men can pull a 20-yo woman if there is a 25-yo guy she can choose first.

This is a terrible understanding and belief in "why". Many, many young women are attracted to older males, many are not. You don't just drop your line in the water and pray, you know where to fish and which ones are interested in your bait.

Older guys offer a lot. Especially those of us that keep our shit together. A 25 yr old brings nothing to the table but potential looks (sure there are outliers like athletes and artists).

Stability, Experience, Security and Intellect and most of all the ability to comfort them like a wizard.

Your statement is 'thinking for a woman' as a man. We look with our eyes, they listen with their ears.

We all want different things at different times. Don't limit yourself on such black and white philosophy.

[–]1KyfhoMyoba1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Late 50s M, here. You'd be amazed at how many young women have "Daddy Issues/"

A couple of years ago I had 6 in rotation and half were under 30.

Try some Speed Seduction TM.

[–]greenlittleman-2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

Artificial test is very bad for your health (proven fact), unless you are over 45-50 years old, so it is a big no-no for young guys.

[–]furcryingoutloud2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Care to provide any scientific tests? I can type (proven fact) too and it don't mean shit.

[–]greenlittleman-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

I assume what anyone not too stupid will at least google about side effects and read A LOT before using something what directly affects his hormonal system. If you use steroids without learning beforehand about any potential consequences then too bad for you.

[–]furcryingoutloud1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This comment contains no scientific studies. You know why? Because there are none. And totally agree about learning as much as possible about it before embarking on such an adventure.

I encourage everyone to learn about it. But can only speak to my own experience. So, to the idiots, no, don't do it. To the smarter folk, I never felt better.

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This post is insane!! Thank you so much. Wow. I’m currently a college student, what do you recommend I do to get the absolute most out of college? Cold approaching on campus seems weird to me, especially since I have a not so high SMV. I’m lifting though. What do you recommend I read? I’m reading the rational male now.

[–]greenlittleman8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is fine to "cold approach" if you are not coming from frame of "getting girls" but just being friendly. Don't chase girls, friendzone them all and choose among those who start to chase you (they will IOS you like crazy). As Auxfite said - make friends with everyone.

[–]Auxfite[S] 36 points37 points  (5 children) | Copy

Go to college parties/kickbacks. Make friends with everyone.

Books The secret, rich dad poor dad, the Bible (proverbs,psalms), think & grow rich, 7 habits of highly effective people, outwitting the devil, the art of seduction, the folly of fools, the magic of thinking BIG, the compound effect, the intelligent investor, richest man of Babylon, the power of now, how to win friends & influence people, & models

After you read all those books your life will change. I’m living proof

[–]vl221 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

How did you get into college parties when you were out of college?

[–]Auxfite[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know people. Plus half the people in the parties didn’t even go to the school. My city gets lit like that

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[–]S3VENx1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Im reading the mill fastlane right now.

This book is Top 5 of all time in my eyes.

Mj demarco exposes all BS when it comes to making money and becoming rich.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (12 children) | Copy

I'd be really interested to read a full post on Point 6 - your journey. Where you were before TRP, what you did, what you read, how you went from point beta to point alpha. Also keen to see how you incorporate spiritually and (I'm assuming based on your Jesus comments) Christian beliefs into this. I'm religiously Atheist and philosophically Satanist, so I'm interested to see how all the cables hook up to make the TRP machine work from the Christian perspective.

Excellent post bro.

[–]Auxfite[S] 5 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy

Before years before RP I was an overweight low T beta. Played videos games all day, watched porn 2-3x a day, struggled with ED i would cum every 2 minutes, ate shitty fast food all day, was always struggling finically, struggled with my ego which lead me far from a relationship with God, could only get girls long distance. All my friends were betas who played video games all day as well. Working shitty jobs. Just being Low smv losers. I became alpha from going to the gym. Reading the RP. I remember when i first found this out I was working with my body at his shop and 3 girls came in and a guy and I thought the guy was just a friend tagging along. His GF (which I didn’t know at the time) was giving me huge IOIs and I remember the RP talking about eye contact. I was eye fucking her and she was eye fucking me back then 5 minutes later her bf passes her a beer and they start getting close to each other. At that point i was shocked what I was seeing. I thought she was single but I know if he wasn’t there she would’ve fucked me. I couldn’t believe to this day what I saw. It was literally 5 hours after reading the RP. Once I saw that I started reading almost everything posted on RP & Returnofkings

After this shitty life I remember breaking down in depression crying wondering why my life sucked. I started going to church and reading the Bible which was like shallowing the RP it wasn’t easy but i gave it a try and it was the best thing i ever did in my life. It’s like Jesus Christ guided me to where I’m at now. I own my own business, I’m in the best shape in my life, I’m not broke, I travel all around the world, no longer trapped and surrounded by shitty people (crabs in a bucket), my loneliness slowly disappeared so did my anxiety. I know longer feel the urge to smoke weed all day and this is coming from someone who smoked 5-10 pounds within the last 2 years, All this didn’t happen overnight it was probably a 3-5 year span but that’s what the Bible talks about faith. You can’t see what God is about to do in your life but you have to believe he will guide you to the right path (jer 29:11).

And as for the books I read The secret, rich dad poor dad, the Bible (proverbs,psalms,revelations,Matthew), think & grow rich, 7 habits of highly effective people, outwitting the devil, the art of seduction, the folly of fools, the magic of thinking BIG, the compound effect, the intelligent investor, richest man of Babylon, the power of now, how to win friends & influence people, & models

[–]Auxfite[S] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

Here are some of my favorite bible verses that shaped me to the person I am today

Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you,” says the Lord. “They are plans for good and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope

Romans 8:18

I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us.

Proverbs 13:20 An easy way to get wiser is by wise friends. If you choose fools, you will destroy yourself. You are the company you keep. Do not deceive yourself thinking bad friends will not influence you. The corruption has already started

Proverbs 31 3-7 Don't spend all your energy on sex and all your money on women; they have destroyed kings.

Matthew 21:22

And whatever you ask in prayer, you will receive, if you have faith.”

Hebrews 11:6

And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.

Romans 10:17

So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

Hebrews 11:1

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.

James 1:5-8

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways

James 3:4 If you want to know where you’ll be in 5 years, listen to what you talk about most now. “Your tongue is a rudder”

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

Holy buckets. We're on a banned sub for offensive content and here we are reading bible versus. Man, this reddit thing is funny. "Hey, look at this sub we banned. They quote the bible." Merry Christmas everyone!

[–]Auxfite[S] 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

They want to hide the truth from people. The more aware and awake the less corruption goes on. More corruption = more profits.

[–]pizzae-1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy

How can you be a man of god whilst still following TRP principles of being inherently selfish, focusing on yourself, making as much money as possible and engaging in hedonistic behaviour trying to smash as much girls as possible? I’m an athiest myself and believe somewhat in TRP but at this stage you and most other people here are massive hypocrites.

[–]Auxfite[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

So be the doormat beta billy my whole life. This shitty mindset is the reason why people don’t want to go Christian

[–]pizzae-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

But tell me how engaging in hedonistic behaviour and focusing on yourself and smashing as much sluts as possible while being a man of God can be done simultaneously? If you ask me, I'd say you should pick one. It's also ironic that you put bible quotes whilst writing down titles of books that only teach you how to make money. So your God tells you not to be greedy, yet you are doing the exact opposite?

[–]Auxfite[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Law 38: Think as you like, but behave like others.

Challenging people's beliefs only serves to isolate you. They will feel personally attacked and do whatever it takes to protect themselves and/or defeat you. It's pointless to argue, especially in the workplace. You will only offend people by not agreeing with them and how they choose to live their lives

[–]pizzae-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'm aware of that. So essentially I should be greedy and selfish while putting out an image of being a man of God? If so, why didn't you just say so earlier? This is TRP.

[–]Auxfite[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience - Mark Twain

[–]pizzae-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

So if you have no counter argument to my point I assume that you’ve lost the argument? If anyone else is reading this, don’t listen to this hypocrite who doesn’t know what he is talking about

[–]Adeus_Ayrton4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

1 Hot 2 Single 3 Sane.

LOL I literally burst out laughing trying to make the best combination.

It's one of those things you know for sure to be true.

[–]xcrazytx2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a solid post man. Well written. R u in college or just go to college bars in SF?

[–]5121653812 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

super blessed to discover TRP at a young age.

I'm 56 and wish I new this a lot earlier.

Some things I will add

  • introversion/extroversion and red pill/blue pill are probably things you are born with. You can change some behaviours and skew the odds in your favour

  • working out is on thing you can change. Lots of advice all over

  • I've worked as a teacher and see kids throw away their lives by treating school as a joke. You can make good money as a carpenter or computer programmer, and there are barriers to entry to all jobs. I even had one student denied a job at McDonalds because of bad grades. The government provides free education, use it. Education does not stop age age 20.

  • pay attention to what you wear and I don't mean spending a lot. I worked in consulting for decades, and if you turn up in a suit and tie with a good resume you are likely to get the jobs. Have a look round at the fashion advice sites. People are always watching when you are out in public.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great reminder post.

Women are more attracted to you when they see you with other girls. It hamsters in their brain what does she see in him? I don’t really know how to put this in words but it’s true

Variously called social credit and "sexy son hypothesis" and so on.

It's deeper level than hamstering: other females finding you attractive is inherently attractive - in the same way as we like firm tits and ass, women like a man who is liked by other women. (Conversely men liking a woman is a much milder attracter and in some cases repeller for men).

The effect is so powerful that we should do everything in our power to leverage it. Meet girls in places where other girls know you. Flirt with other girls in front of her. Note that TALKING about other women finding you attractive is worthless and probably damaging. One should do the opposite: laugh off female attention with "she's just being friendly". This makes it seem normal and even abundant in your life.

[–]TheImpossible111 points12 points  (9 children) | Copy

cold approach 350 women

You're either very attractive or very lucky.

Either way, the MeToo lynch mob will come one day.

I really think this sub should be against such a risky practice.

[–]greenlittleman10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

A lot of PUA guys do ten times more approaches than it, there is nothing risky, unless you post it on youtube then it could have legal problems, in theory.

[–]kevisazombie4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

My background and stats. African/Caribbean.. in my mid 20s, Live in the liberal SF Bay Area, 6'0..

This is like easy mode in the Bay. Bitches be flinging themselves on bro in Oakland.

[–]FuckMichaelMcCoy3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Cmon man.. don’t gas him up too hard. Black and 6ft in the bay... there’s thousands. You need to be in the top 5% of men to truly have women flocking

There’s nothing special about those stats. What’s more impressive is being in shape, charismatic, dope style, etc.

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This. It only takes one blogger bitch who is feeling sufficiently spiteful to do some research on you after you pump and dump her to try to get even with you

[–]CuckedIndianAmerican6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy

I’m not sure why these comments aren’t being upvoted. Do you really want to chance getting kicked out of college over a MeToo accusation? I’m Indian, the cold approaches get me responses like, “No, just no” after I simply say hi at the bar. I can’t even get past hi without them scurrying away. On the other hand, a Chad sitting next to me was approached by M’Lady, and the Chad said, “I want to kiss you” and M’Lady said, “Ok!”

OP’s advice just sounds dangerous for a guy like me.

[–]Pestilence19113 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I watched one of my chad friends walk up to a girl, tell her he wanted to inseminate her, and then they left right there.

Chad magic is real.

[–]p3n1x3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I can’t even get past hi without them scurrying away.

This should tell you something about your frame. OPs advice also states many things you should be doing to keep from being "cringy"

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[–]p3n1x0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nobody is obligated to return that "hi". You can't hamster away the context. You are in a location where people hitting on each other is part of the situation. You can't be upset or blame society because your approach sucks. Your reply sounds a bit entitled.

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[–]1bradyo25 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

One of the better posts I’ve read on here in a while. Good stuff

[–]Infla-mood1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've just started lifting. I have an ankle issue which means leg days are essentially out for me at the moment. I would love to go to the gym every day, because after I go the next day I am rearing to go but can't because of "rest days." Then after a rest I find it difficult to drag myself to the gym. If I could figure out a way to go every day that would be awesome. I work out individual muscle groups at each session, but there is some overlap so I don't want to overdo it. Any suggestions?

[–]Auxfite[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Go 3x a week and have rest days every other day. Avoid leg day until you get better. Hit bench press, should pres, incline press, pull ups, dips, bent over rows. Whatever you weight match it in your protein intake. Take vitamin D/Zinc supplements (boost testosterone). Eat healthy fats. Start your morning by eating 3 eggs and a cup of oatmeal

[–]Pestilence19111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Steel cut oats and frozen fruits!,

[–]MrFiles1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Awesome post my man, love how you attributed everything "lesson" you had to a law.

Great shit

[–]bonusfruit1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

"6'0"... why isn't 'remember to be tall' one of the lessons learned?

[–]Tosma001 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't worry bro. If you are manlet, hit the gym heavily to get massthetic, stretch here and there to get one inch of spinal height. Visualize yourself taller (serious, check Biology of belief). If potential side effects do not scare you and you are under 25, maybe try popular gh peptides - but I do not recommend this at all, nose and organ growth could happen for example- there are 2-3 inches to get.

[–]xorflame1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fantastic post! This is what makes me keep coming back to trp

[–]jonpe871 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

"Young women are more damaged as ever. Pick your poison 1 Hot 2 Single 3 Sane. You can only pick 2"

good line

[–]strikethrough1231 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

6 hits home for me. After a while you begin to realize that you only fuck to scratch an itch that you’ve been thinking about for a couple of days. From what I’ve learned, it’s much more rewarding to gain respect from other men rather than fuck some broad.

[–]A_solo_tripper1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Is this the first book you've read that you can relate pick-up to? Why did you choose this book? Who recommended it to you? Can you give us an example of a few cold approaches you did? Or, even better, your field reports of most of the women you approached? Why did you say "I cant remember a time i got rejected once."; only to later say "Ive learned that rejection comes from them giving you their social media but never opening your stories ONCE. they simply just used you for validation."? Do you feel you were rejected or not?

You say "you have a way better success rate @ parties, clubs, and bars but places like the grocery store, shopping, a park will catch a women off guard and she will be creeped out.", what does "success" mean to you? Does success mean you avoided rejection? Does success mean you had a pleasant interaction? Does success mean a phone number, a SC, a hug, a kiss, a day-2, f-close, a gf, or what does it mean in this report? What was your success rate with these 300-400 cold approaches?

Out of those 300-400 cold approaches, what was your goal? Were you trying to get numbers, make-outs, grow your social network, a sexual connection, what were your intentions before starting?

You say, "Men SMV doesn't peak till 40." did one of the 300-400 girls you approached tell you this? If so, why do you believe her? If not, who did you give authority to tell you this and make it a fact FOR YOU?

The cure to stop being a beta (which 85-90% of men in the USA suffer from) is to take action and boost your testosterone by lifting heavy ass weights 4-5x a week.

Is this a fact or an opinion? So, people who are disabled and can not lift weights are forever doomed to be a beta? Is this a law of the universe or is this just something that sounds good?

Where did most or the majority of your cold approaches occur?

[–]jewishsupremacist888 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

you wouldnt be writing this if you were 5'4 bruh

[–]putkaaa4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Gezz man, are you a retarded caveman? Delusional insights.

[–]REDoROBOT3 points4 points  (14 children) | Copy

If you want to increase testosterone do the GOMAD diet, milk literally contains IGH1 and Testosterone (2 very popular performance enhancing drugs) as well as other peptides and hormones.

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[–]IronManAlan9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed, cows milk is full of hormones

[–]_McFuggin_9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't think the majority of IGH1 and testosterone actually survives the acids in your stomach. However, the massive amounts of estrogen do survive all the stomach acids. A cow has around 1,000 times the amount of estrogen as a human female and a lot of that estrogen gets into the milk. I think milk is mostly harmful to testosterone production.

[–]throwawaybpdnpd15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

I used to do GOMAD for bulking... I added 28lb of fat and 7lb of muscle mass... You will get more test but you'll look fatty as fuck too! lol

[–]Incitatus_Horseman5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’ll also be super bloated and farting constantly. Your stomach will never stop making noises. And if you’re not doing intense workouts (which are difficult with a belly full of milk) you’ll just get fat. Source: did it for a month

Also, the cashiers at the grocery store give you weird looks when you show up every couple of days and buy nothing but gallons upon gallons of milk

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[–]xddm26530 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I've never done TRT but is there a reason you disqualify it? I'm naturally small and wouldn't mind a doctor injecting me with a T boost

[–]Auxfite[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t disqualify it. Lifting and eating the right food is enough for me. Plus I’m young so I’m full of testosterone naturally

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[–]xddm26530 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well I dont know where to get T or load up a syringe so I think I'll have the doctor do it...they're always advertising it where I live

[–]OmniscientOCE0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You can't just "get" it. I'm not sure what these guys are talking about but if America is anything like Australia you can't just go and decide that you want TRT、 an endocrinologist has to get you onto it and that's only for kids

[–]BusterVadge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm heading up on 45 and I'm going to consider TRT soon. My T levels are good "for my age", but that's not good enough for me. I'd rather have spectacular T levels that serve my sexual and fitness goals.

[–]BusterVadge1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you don't want boobs you can do a dozen of eggs a day instead. You'll get most of the hormone benefits without estrogen.

[–]blacklightsleaze-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

This comment is an example why this sub is going down. Do you research before giving crappy advices.

[–]TheGuyBehindTheWheel1 point2 points  (24 children) | Copy

Learn the stock market and crypto currency cycles

A lot of people are going to thank you in the future for this

[–]BenDoberman2 points3 points  (16 children) | Copy

How does one start in learning these two?

[–]Auxfite[S] -1 points0 points  (13 children) | Copy

Download coinbase, Binance, Robinhood.

Look at charts on TradingView.com

Watch YouTube videos and read books on stocks is a good start

Throw $5 into XRP(ripple) and in 3-5 years it will most likely turn in $500-10k .. it can only be purchase thru Binance at the moment.

[–]RavenDothKnow4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I know this is not a cryptocurrency subreddit but I'm going to have to jump in here.

The reason for all the speculative hype and kids driving in lambo's within the cryptocurrency space, is that these currencies run on decentralised, trustless, borderless, immutable and permissionless networks.

Ripple (XRP) is none of the above. Validation of transactions is done by federated nodes, which means that it's controlled centrally and loses all of the interesting characteristics of a cryptocurrency.

The fact that it's currently the #2 cryptocurrency by marketcap shows you how irrational the market is today.

Now you can invest on it and hope to make some quick bucks, but if you are making long term investments I would go for a project that is actually decentralised and preferably has smart contract capabilities.

Do your own research and don't invest in the pets.com of cryptocurrencies.

[–]HumptyDumptyFellHard1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Crypto currency is something that many are still hesitant investing. Sure invest change, even a couple hundred. But chances are that even if it has some potential it won’t be till years some now. Hopeful a crypto can become the next Bitcoin but chances are slim.

[–]SICFJC6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Bitcoin is crypto you moron

[–]furcryingoutloud-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hopeful a crypto can become the next Bitcoin but chances are slim.

It doesn't really matter. The beauty of it is that it is such a freedom system that anyone can make their own crypto. The numerous crypto coins will always be there in one version or another. And nothing is to say that Bitcoin will be the future money. But if you want to see what future money is going to look like, that's it.

The power of crypto will come not from trading, but adoption. Too early to tell still where it will explode and be the coin, but the future IS here, we just have to wait and see how it develops. Think of the internet in the 90's. Paypal in 2000.

I don't tell people to invest in it. I just tell them to learn about it, and get familiar with it so when the time comes, they won't be left behind.

[–]Auxfite[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

“Be greedy when others are fearful” - warren buffet the fact that crypto is hesitant by 90% of the world means NOW is the time. GET in early. I wish I got in when bitcoin was $1. Would’ve been able to retire before I graduated high school.

[–]geo_gan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

$1? I was around in the days when it was about 0.05 and I had already downloaded and installed the bitcoin wallet etc but then forgot to actually buy any coins, could have got hundreds or thousands of BTC for a few dollars. And what’s 1 BTC worth now? Was at a supercar show talking to a guy same age as me who had bought 1000 BTC when it was cheap and still has them. At the peak he could have bought a supercar with a very small amount of them.

[–]InterdisciplinaryHum1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

$10k ripple? That would be a market cap of 400 trilllions, 50 times more than the market cap of all the gold in the world, and xrp is not even a crypto...

[–]Auxfite[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I remember when Eth was $0.50 cents and people said $1000 Eth was impossible and it hit $1,400. Fuck the market cap follow trends.

[–]InterdisciplinaryHum1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

My friend, 400 trillions is 5 times the world gdp, so I would say it is impossible. All the stock market in the US is valued at about 80 trillions.

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[–]TheGuyBehindTheWheel-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

Read, read a lot. There’s a hell lot of information available now. Don’t go big till you get the basics of crypto trading right. Also, always do your own research before investing your money.

And most importantly, have patience especially in the crypto market. (Coming from a guy whose portfolio is down by 86%). Play with money you can afford to hold for a long period of time, it will definitely pay off.

[–]CabbagedDaughter1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol the bit coin bro is here

[–]Auxfite[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Too bad majority won’t listen to wise counsel and continue to waste their resources on weed,alcohol, clothes to impress people who don’t matter, & fast food!

[–]BrownGummyBear9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

🙄 as someone who has friends that work at a hedge fund... let me tell you something, most people who try to trade don’t become profitable EVER. Let alone do good enough to make a living out of it. I’m not saying to not try to learn how to trade but don’t be so naive to think that “all you have to do is put in the work and you will make it!”.

Also, if you’re straight edge that’s cool and all... but most traders I know are very into alcohol, weed and other drugs. Drugs are pretty popular amongst traders/wealthy people... (being straight edge won’t magically turn you into a better trader).

[–]xddm26536 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

I would think the majority of people on this sub aren't chasing cheap dopamine fixes..

[–]TheGuyBehindTheWheel2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s true. But you know what they say, a man can help himself ONLY if he wants to help himself.

[–]THROW_DIABETES_AT_U1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any good resources you could share as to where one could learn about the stock market? The whole concept seems to alien to me that I literally have no idea where to begin.

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[–]Auxfite[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Soy is known to lower testosterone levels. Do your research about it.

[–]Aspiecel880 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I've never used Snapchat before. If I make an account and add a girl as a friend will she able to see that I have no friends on there?

[–]PerplexingPegasus_3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

They can see your “score” which is basically counts how much snaps you have received/sent to other people. They can’t see your friends but that can use that to indicate whether you do have people to snap you.

[–]Auxfite[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

She won’t. All they can see is your stories and your Snapchat score. The more stories and snaps you post the higher score but tbh that doesn’t even matter. I avoid social media at all cost but Snapchat is worth it.

[–]MedicineCel0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So what do you do when you get the snapchat? I'm trying to get better. I have gotten a couple of snaps from girls, but it never really led anywhere.

[–]Auxfite[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Depends on if I’m attracted to her or not. If she’s a hb9 I will hit her up with logistic. Usually reply to their story if it’s replyable or see if she watches my stories. Millennial game is so different lol

[–]PerplexingPegasus_0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Regarding crypto/stocks, what’s the ideal amount should you put it and in your opinion is the next big crypto currency?

[–]Auxfite[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Don’t invest what you can’t afford to lose.

No one knows when the next crypto cycle will be but if history repeats itself it should be August - Dec 2020.

My advice for newcomers would be to throw $20-100 into XRP or ETH and HOLD. Don’t expect to get rich overnight

[–]PerplexingPegasus_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the advice, merry Christmas to you.

[–]masszealots-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just signed 70k/y grad role (I'm 22), should I bother with this? Bad on the financial side.

[–]meaningintragedy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nice read, just avoid that testosterone pseudo-science if you don't have blood work to back it up.

[–]Standgrounding0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

What is "damaged goods", "cougar" and "ioi"?

Other than that this article is true af

[–]Auxfite[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Damaged goods = A person, who makes themselves emotionally unavailable due to unfortunate circumstances in the past. Which in turn makes their significant other pay for the mistakes they had to deal with in the past. Damaged goods tend to run away from their problems instead of facing them head on and tend to make assumptions about present situations due to experiences from the past

Cougar = a women 40+

Ioi = level of interest

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  1. Damaged goods - A person, in this case a woman, with emotional baggage. Such as ex bf issues, daddy issues, baby daddy issues, BDP, post wall etc.
  2. A woman, usually 35+ who is attracted to and often pursues Younger men men (18-29 usually) for casual sex rather than a relationship.
  3. IOI is Indication of Interest. It could be her legs facing you during a conversation rather then facing away, playing with her hair, eyes looking at your eyes and or/lips (indication she is thinking about kissing you) or other body language that suggests she is attracted to you. Some are very subtle, others are not. Giggles, touching your muscles are two examples of very overt IOI.

[–]Standgrounding-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

thank you buddy!

(though i do believe red pill should be more like a secret society and the things shouldn't be explained to bluepills)

[–]1Sir_Distic0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well TRP is here to educate fellow men about the realities of life and the dating world. So it's knowledge we want to share with those that seek it out. People have to come here and read the posts. They are not posted on Twitter or facebook or other places so people can read it without context. In some ways I disagree with you, as stated just now, in others I agree. As in not telling women or your buddies about it. They might not understand it and many people resist change.

[–]1ozaku70 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I laughed at 5 that you needed hundreds of women to realise which are damaged and which not. What you mentioned are high tier fucked up women. Probably America is so full of them that they are considered normal.

As for 10, it's much like sales. Buy now or never because this is the last opportunity! You will miss out because I have 3 more people interested in this product. It's often better to grasp the chance and take it, because you always can dump it later, but you cannot get is later.

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Cougars go for young men because they missed out on hypergamy at a young age.

Cougars go for young men, because older men with higher SMVs are getting the young hotties.

It is about SMV parity - 20yr old women and 40 yr old men, 20 yr old boys and 40 yr old women.

[–]ShimaRoosman0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Whyd you keep going on about snapchat?

[–]Auxfite[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Only social media i use. I pull 20-40 girls in a night if i just get their number I usually forget how they look like or who they are. Snapchat solves that problem

[–]kylebenjaminturner0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

48 Laws of Power - great book on manipulation.

[–]zephyrprime0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

" ask her whatever vibe i feel from her " What does this mean?

[–]Jay___Bird0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Hey bro, I'm in San Jose and am looking for wings. Let me know if you want to connect.

[–]Zech4riah0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good stuff but then again some points I have different opinion on:

my success rate at parties was 9/10. outside of that environment 2-3/10.

You say your success rate is 90% in parties even though your first post says "About 50-75% of them are in a relationship or married. In my experience It’s almost impossible to run into a hb8-10 that isnt in a relationship/married or has a shit ton of beta orbiters". So basically your statements are impossible in real life (unless you keep pulling girls in relationship) and according to math based on the numbers you gave us. You are conflicting even with yourself. I don't care if you are bullshitting me or not. It just gnaws your posts credibility away and makes doubt everything when you throw this kind of shit around.

The cure to stop being a beta (which 85-90% of men in the USA suffer from) is to take action and boost your testosterone by lifting heavy ass weights 4-5x a week. Women are attracted to masculine as men are attracted to feminine women.

Not exactly true this simply put. There is this polarity where more masculine men are attracted to more feminine women. In other words, feminine men are attracted to masculine women and vice versa.

Its proven fact that your testosterone gets a small boost when you stop fapping for a week.

I agree but it's so insignificant (especially in the long run) that it's useless to even mention it and possibly distract guys to thinking that they can replace lifting/healthy habits with having breaks in fapping.

Damage pair bond is real and its affecting the younger generation more than ever

Extremely true (and sad). Important point to make and remind of.

learn the stock market and cryptocurrency cycles.

Yeah, but don't bet on it too much money... You can do lottery as well.

Become the Machiavellian women desire.

No need to become Machiavellian, just become true alpha leader. Machiavellianism is a shortcut for weak men.

[–]1predator0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for the post it seems you got a lot useful infomation about human nature. I am more interested in experiences. So these are my questions. After apptoaching 350 women how your social skills changed? How your relationship with people who you knew before changed?
Now, when you are being in a new social area(no approaching. friends of friends, new course etc.) are you more comfortably make new connections? How many time you got laid thanks to these approaches? With how many girls you did you spend really good time? Did it increased as your approaches got smoother?

[–]Salted_Pretzel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good summary, learned a lot, thanks.

[–]lapeparoja0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

How many women did you fuck from these 350+ approaches?

[–]chillwavevibez0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great post. saving it for future reference.

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[–]chrispp10 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

If jesus christ is king you wouldnt be living a degenerate lifestyle of casual sex. All sin is equal.

[–]Auxfite[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

agreed. which is why i repented for my sins and live a mgtow lifestyle now.. also he is #1 king. wish u a great 2019.

[–]psykhe270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Why would one bother to use Snapchat or make stories?

[–]thechaosz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great post other than Jeebus.

I finally went redpill and started to despise my Cuck/beta friends

[–]tempolaca0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

Cougars go for young men because

Because young men have low SMV and cougars also have low SMV.

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Cougars go for young men because young men look better than older men, lol.

[–]tempolaca0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Let me guess you are 20.

When you have 40 come back and tell me if it's harder do pickup girls. Hint: it's not.

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I am 21, so round about correct. But regardless, the average 20 year old guy is more attractive than the average 40 year old guy.

For a 40 year old to be picking up girls in their 20's, he is going to have to compensate in some way, i.e. being famous or having lots of money. All a 20 year old guy needs is looks, and he can succeed in hookups/ONS.

[–]tempolaca-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy

. But regardless, the average 20 year old guy is more attractive than the average 40 year old guy.

Yes, for 16 year old girls that's true. Over 20? I don't think so.

he is going to have to compensate in some way, i.e. being famous or having lots of money.

It's enough to be in shape (and sometimes not even that). At 40 you have 1000x the money that you have at 20 anyway.

I'm not trying to compete here. Just a warning, so you don't cry when you find out that the fat bald manager fucks your 20 year old girlfriend. It happens all the fucking time.

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I'm a 21 year old guy and a lot of girls I know are in their early 20's too, the majority of them would definitely not go for a 40 year old over the 20 year old. They all get creeped out by 40 year old dudes approaching them in clubs.

The average 40 year old guy is not in shape. He's balding, overweight and stuck in a dead end job he doesn't like. The Mad Men CEO type isn't the average, that's the exception: the rarity.

For a 40 something year old to do well with women in their early 20's, he's not just going to have to be in shape, he's going to have to be exceptionally good looking facially too; these guys who still look good at 40 probably still looked really good at 20 too.

If he was in shape and had lots of money, then he has a chance, but even then, the 20 year old pretty boy who goes to university and works at KFC on the side is still going to get laid more.

[–]Managicall-4 points-3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Become the Machiavellian women desire.

Dude that medieval author wrote comedy its not a guide to life or anything. You'd have better luck understanding women by reading "The Lusty Argonian Maid"

[–]majaka12344 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

But how else am I supposed to pickup lizard people?

[–]AliBarakat-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I pick hot. Who cares about sane or single nowadays.

[–]byronichero99-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

Can you give examples of how you cold approach them. Sometimes I see a girl and think of cold approaching, but am not able to because I can't think of a good starter.

[–]Auxfite[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It’s hard to give an example because I go with the vibe. How she dresses, her body language, the type people she’s around. Being conscious helped me a lot with is why I recommend monk mode

[–]byronichero993 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yea I'm doing no fap anyway. Just a little awkward about breaking ice, after that I can flow easily. I guess it will just come with practice and experience

[–]Gl0weN1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah that's all great but give an example of a cold approach from the past.

[–]JonathanMekerset-1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy

Just get on TRT. Solves all your problems.

No I’m not being sarcastic. It fucking does. There’s absolutely no way to have healthy test levels with all the shit put into our systems on a daily basis.

There’s a reason men are becoming more and more pussified every year.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

I just started injecting myself. Running a mild test cycle. Nothing heavy but still above TRT level. Honestly my mood and energy isn’t really boosted much. Getting muscle gains tho so I know it’s working on some level. What other component could be causing my mood and energy to remain around where it was during my natty baseline? Estrogen? Seasonal depression is probably part of it too. Thoughts?

[–]JonathanMekerset0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

No porn or substances, meditate, embrace IDGAF mentality, get plenty of sleep, get a gallon of water a day, and EAT IN A CALORIC SURPLUS! This is essential to recover which will prevent overtraining and CNS overload.

When specifically did you start your cycle? It could be that you were overtraining and your body is still recovering from the CNS overload. Overtraining and CNS overload is directly linked with depression and low energy/lethargy. Your cycle should fix this quickly due to increased recovery but you mentioned you just started it.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

That’s probably something to do with it, the CNS. But I think it’s more due to insufficient caloric intake. I took some time off test boosters and downshifted to like 2x a week at the gym for a few weeks prior to starting my cycle. So I don’t think it’s from overtraining leading into the cycle. Also crashed my estro for the first month of the cycle so barely worked out then.

But for some reason I’m just not hungry, even when my body needs food. Like the appetite doesn’t kick in when it’s supposed to sometimes. And I think this has caused slower gains and CNS taxation. I know I’ve taxed it over the long run from lots of heavy workouts, pre workouts, emotional stress, etc. I get bags under my eyes that seem premature now even tho I’m otherwise in great shape and extremely strong.

I just thought once I started the test cycle it would give me a mood and energy boost but frankly I feel normal. Even a bit more lethargic and apathetic. But again that could be due to winter and estrogen slightly out of range. Urge to fap is pretty tame.

[–]JonathanMekerset0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Eat at a steady caloric surplus of 500 above TDEE for 2 weeks and see how you feel then.

[–]1scissor_me_timbers001 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Also get lower back pain at the end of heavy exercise and physical activity. Don’t know if this is another clue to you but to me it suggests CNS fatigue. It’s definitely not from exessive sexual activity.

[–]JonathanMekerset0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Yup. CNS fatigue = Lack of recovery = either not enough sleep, too much exercise, or not enough food

[–]1scissor_me_timbers000 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well I’ve been lethargic and kind of apathetic lately, even on cycle which has been majorly disappointing. I thought being on cycle was supposed to give you some kick. Haven’t worked out more than 3x per week and have slept a ton. It’s gotta be too little food. Although I’ve also read the pain can be back pumps from the juice.

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[–]JonathanMekerset0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

TRT is meant for people with low T in the first place.

A lot of dudes have low T. Just because you don’t have this issue (assuming you’ve gotten a blood test) it doesn’t mean others don’t have it.

[–]blacklightsleaze0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, testosterone is like height, is genetically fixed at around some number. And if you fix everything in your life(diet, lifting, sleep, stress) and still have low T you can do nothing about it except TRT.

[–]Snazzy_Serval-1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy


I wonder what results you'd have if you were short.

I want to try cold approaching again but as a 5'6 white guy I'm generally invisible to women when I go out.

[–]1Sir_Distic1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't pay attention to trying to be taller. It's silly. Just own that shit. I'm also 5'6" AND I'm post 40. So I understand how it's not easy on us smaller guys. I tell them crazy stuff like "We're both the same height laying down." or "I'll be taller than you when you're on your knees." with a smile. Own. That. Shit. Got a big nose? Own it. Got a fucked up left arm? Own that shit son.

Pass on the ones who make it a dealbreaker. And there are many, many of them. It's popular to "only get with guys at least 6' tall" That's ok. There are girls out there that will give you the time of day.

Also a slutty post wall married woman at my work recently helped me understand how being funny helps a ton. She's "in love" with a guy at work, but she claims that "He's not really even that attractive. If he wasn't so funny I probably wouldn't even like him." This is a girl that has literally cried at work because a friend of hers talked to him. Talked. To. Him. He's a supervisor. The other girl has a boyfriend and doesn't like the supervisor. Girls are fucking nuts dude. Don't take them seriously.

Be funny. Is my long-winded point.

[–]Flawless44-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wear boots and put inserts into them. It'll get you up 5'10" atleast. Try it and see if there's a difference. If not, you got other problems.

[–]Snazzy_Serval-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

I do wear boots that make me taller and I think I'm able to push 5'9. It still doesn't feel tall enough though.

[–]Pestilence19110 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hmm. Would those boots work on someone 6'2?

[–]_Dilligent-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

I guarantee my testosterone is higher because I blast 3 fat nuts every day.

I think if you dribble 3 nuts a day your test might drop, cuz its like why do u keep doing something that sucks, your body will think your stupid and wont work with u haha.

[–]peskysquirms-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well stop validating whores, then. That's a Man's job. Otherwise, you're just another female. Learn to see them for who they are from a distance, so you are only validating those small few who deserve any. Otherwise, you're as good as a cuck, and you continue the rotten vagina exactly as it is, instead of improving females by rejecting low quality ones and ensuring they end depressed and in a ditch where they belong.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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