Misogyny is normalised because it only effects women

AmethistStars · 2021-11-29T05:10:28+00:00

I've also seen this in intersectional feminism being a thing, but not intersectional anti-racism. It's good that White women actively learn to be intersectional towards WOC, but when are MOC actively going to learn to be intersectional towards WOC? I way too often see MOC being anti-racist while being sexist at the same time. They should be educated about intersectionality just as much as White women.

apexdryad · 2021-11-29T01:37:51+00:00

"When men are oppressed it's a tragedy, when women are oppressed it's tradition"

aquietsword · 2021-11-29T01:05:50+00:00

As a WOC, fully agree. It's why I've made issues affecting women my top priority. In my community, MOC wouldn't think twice about shitting on women, so fuck them.

hopelesscanary · 2021-11-28T22:36:56+00:00

I've noticed this too. I swear every movement, including the woke ones, are rampant with misogyny and it goes unnoticed.

You call a gay man that offends you a f--got, you'll be called homophobic.

You call a black person that offends you the n word, you'll be called racist.

You call a woman that offends you a b--ch, then it's overreacting to call you a misogynist? Even though b--- has lost some power because of casual use (boss b--ch, I'm that b--ch, b--- please etc), it's still used as a slur against women specifically and I notice men will gleefully jump to using it on any woman that displeases them. They would not dare do the same for racial and other minorities because the consequences are socially enforced.

Careful_Blueberry_58 · 2021-11-29T04:10:57+00:00

I think this goes along with the problem of men having each other's back while women hold each other to a higher standard. When a man says a misogynistic slur, other men won't care, they'll even defend them. When a woman says a slur, other women will call her out and say it's not ok. Men support each other's bad behavior and a lot of pick mes won't say anything that makes them look less cool to the men so they won't hold men accountable either. We need to be there for each other and make sure there's accountability when this happens.

I've experienced this first hand. I was on a work outing talking to some coworkers, we were joking about office things when one of the men (who was known for having anger issues) got really worked up and called me a c*nt. No one called him out on it and he continued saying similar things until I told him to stop being a dick. At this point, another male coworker intervened because "the situation was getting out of hand". Many of even my women friends wouldn't say a bad word about him (even the ones who didn't know him). They all came up with excuses. Saying maybe the word isn't a big deal to him or maybe he was joking around. No one was willing to say that it wasn't ok to call a woman that.

QueenAlice3 · 2021-11-29T00:49:18+00:00

This reminds me of how I told a guy friend that the number 13 was made to be seen as bad luck because the Christian church wanted women to be seen as dirty (13 is how many moon/period cycles we have in a year). And Friday the 13th is bad luck because Freya, the goddess of women, rules Friday. I explained that misogyny is so deeply interwoven in our society we don’t even know it.

He said “Ya, but that stuff doesn’t really impact you so it doesn’t need to change.”

I asked him “If Friday the 13th was related to something racist do you think we’d need to change it?”

And he was like “Ya, of course!”

🙄

scorchedsouI · 2021-11-28T22:22:16+00:00

Do you know why this happens? Because unfortunately, most women don't resist oppression. They suffer from it, immensely, but they don't analyse the oppression they experience, they don't focus on the perpetrators and they don't strategize on how to best defend themselves and retaliate.

This could be due to a different million reasons, ranging from upbringing, to psychological/sexual trauma and systematic brain-washing and whatever else. However, none of the reasons change the fact that this is reality. Most women are mind-bogglingly impassive in the face of misogyny, and yet they're eager to take advantage of the liberties the few women who openly resisted have made possible.

Women aren't some tiny minority, we are over half of the human species. If misogyny is normalized men are to blame for bringing it into existence, and women are to blame for tolerating it, for any reason.

I for one do my part and refuse to associate with any peace of trash who uses misogynistic slurs, male or female. I do my best to openly express disgust when I hear them too, to make them feel like shit of course.

rainbowshummingbird · 2021-11-29T04:35:52+00:00

Men, of any color, were extended voting rights in 1870. Women, of any race, were not allowed to vote until 1920.

saggy_lemons1 · 2021-11-28T22:05:22+00:00

I've had this exact thought....black woman here btw

TellCerseeItWasMe · 2021-11-29T02:09:21+00:00

I stopped watching Hyram on YouTube because he calls his audience "bitches" several times in every video and monetizes it on his merch

100% guarantee if I referred to his homosexuality on my channel and profited off it, he'd be signing a different tune

womanofmyownheart · 2021-11-29T00:28:54+00:00

Bxxtch, Pxxsy, Cxnt. Men will use misogyny to insult women. But men will also use these slurs to insult other men even more. It's that normalized.

_HEDONISM_BOT · 2021-11-29T01:06:53+00:00

Misogyny is completely normalized because men don’t take the oppression of women as seriously as the oppression of other, marginalized men.

It doesn’t help that they have strong pickme Allies who come to the table with their patriarchal bargaining and internalized misogyny, ready to betray their fellow sisters for brownie points from men.

pompommom31 · 2021-11-29T15:09:33+00:00

I am SO glad someone finally pointed this out because I was thiiiis close to writing a post on this very topic as well. Its been bothering me so much and I’m surprised I haven’t heard more said about it. I notice this everywhere in media now and it makes me so mad. They’ll condemn racism and homophobia in one breath and in the next make a misogynistic joke and everyone laughs. And you’re exactly right, it’s because it effects only women. And like we all say—misogyny benefits men therefore why cancel it?

wonkyeyes8877 · 2021-11-29T23:19:59+00:00

I was a fan of some Drag Race performers. Then, I heard some of them say that women can't be drag performers because it's appropriating drag culture.....drag culture which is built on dressing up as women, lipsynching to songs sung by women, mocking women, and making disgusting jokes about women including how we smell....

Yeah, they can bite me.

Misogyny is the most tolerated form of hate on the planet.

Lost_Kale90 · 2021-11-28T23:09:10+00:00

I’ve been thinking about this too!

I truly believe that it’s because men have held entirely or the vast majority of institutional power. And women have been conditioned in this patriarchial society.

GabbaG0ul · 2021-11-29T17:59:45+00:00

People are way more likely to support lgbt issues than women’s issues. Don’t get me wrong, I support and have participated in activism for both. My point is misogyny is rampant even in progressive circles.

xfelugirlx · 2021-11-29T03:09:16+00:00

Yeah is always men double standards, i can see it in my black sisters. How men of their own race are the most colorists and treat them like shit but if they do something against them, they go and cry about racism

Golden_Lavender · 2021-11-29T03:21:16+00:00

I've noticed a lot of vitriol from the woke community against a women for not being on the same level of wokeness as them. An example of this is a video on tiktok about gentle parenting and women A didn't completely agree with the methods used by the mother in the video. Then women B comes and basically says that she's a horrible and abusive person and she hopes she's infertile.

Like woke circles are not peaceful and come out with fucking cannon size insults to essentially splinter size problems. Not to mention the danger in woke circles when they appropriate high level language used in academic circles to make false equivalences to accuse each other of being bigots.

medusabitch · 2021-11-29T00:31:06+00:00

This is a tough topic because no one deserves to be demeaned for their race or sexuality either. I had a narcissistic sociopath ex who had used the police on several occasions to disempower me, and hide his abuse. One time after he had given me a concussion so badly that I was passing out and couldn’t remember anything that had taken place, he used the instance to tell a completely fabricated story to the police when I had not even touched him back. I fully remember what happened now and we weren’t even in a fight. The police were horrible and aggressive and he used the instance to tell my friends and anyone we knew that it was proof that I was the abuser. It still affects me even now that I am away from him and no one believes the truth. It’s fucking disgusting and every cop that was involved were obvious bigots as well and could clearly see what actually happened. (I told them I was pushed and couldn’t remember anything but they didn’t even put that in then report)
It’s terrifying that a man can hurt a women like that and have so many peoples back.

pinkgirly111 · 2021-11-30T06:29:01+00:00

YUP! i live in a city of that experienced major riots over the treatment of POC by police. so SO many men were on board. calling out the cops and racists.

THEN! the men on the local music scene began getting called out for being rapist, grooming, abusers. those same men, screaming about racism, silent. it was sick. i lost a lot of friends over it bc i saw their true colors.

all men benefit from shitty men’s behavior.

SyllabubQuiet2482 · 2021-11-29T01:05:39+00:00

One thing that really opened my eyes was how American woman generally have low standards when it comes to men and how US is misogynistic. I’m there there are way more cases like Gabby petito’s case but didn’t receive attention on media as much. I’ve learned to accept how American society works and use FDS to maximize my benefits.

So many men are misogynistic, your coworkers and men you see on the streets… and it’s especially worse if you’re an Asian female.

US society is misogynistic and pick me since women have to be feminine, accept low effort behavior and do 50/50 and expected to be career driven. Most American women are really pickmes compared to Asian females I’ve encountered because, here women are to be expected to have sex early, do 50/50. Do you see how many PUA posts on this entire Reddit ?

I think the best way to go about it is use men’s attention and turn it in to something valuable. Make him spend on you. After this, I only go for men’s money and his morals.

wahwahthrowaway123 · 2021-11-29T01:36:48+00:00

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fnaffie · 2022-08-24T17:34:39+00:00

As a gay person, please keep homophobia out of this

fnaffie · 2022-08-24T17:35:32+00:00

Homophobia affects women too, also misogyny can be used against men, like when women say they shouldn't cry.

Title	Misogyny is normalised because it only effects women
Author	misandryismadeup
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Date	November 28, 2021 9:48 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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