Thoughts On This “Men Paying On Dates For Them To Look Out For Entitled Women” article??

Mighty_Wombat42 · 2022-04-14T22:18:25+00:00

Interesting how he goes from “she’s entitled if she won’t give you $10 for her dinner even after she spent all that time and money getting ready” to “oh no we will totally pay for you, we just don’t want you to assume that we will”.

In my culture generosity is important so if a guy doesn’t want to pay for a date I just feel like our backgrounds and values are too different. Also as a bi woman, for me paying for dates is one way to be very clear that one has romantic rather than platonic interest. If I ask a woman out, I pay for her because I want her to have a good time and I want her to know I’m interested in her as a potential partner and not just as a friend. I hold men to this same standard I hold myself to- I always bring money and am prepared to pay for myself, but if I end up paying then it’s not a date to me. I don’t do hookups and we know how FDS feels about male friends. It’s not about me feeling entitled to his money, it’s about me needing a sign that he’s actually interested in pursuing me and willing to put effort into a relationship before I get emotionally attached.

salthoney · 2022-04-14T17:17:54+00:00

The fact that this guy posts his videos to TikTok makes me think that he was just trying to say something controversial in order to get impressions, comments, clicks. I have developed such an aversion to that site and anything posted there, especially if it‘s coming from professionals and not random normal people.

Also he is a divorce lawyer so he regularly sees the worst of people and couple dynamics.

extragouda · 2022-04-15T00:14:59+00:00

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Technical_Moth248 · 2022-04-14T16:19:42+00:00

So "entitled" that the woman didn't beg to pay half on a $20-$40 date like he suggested lmao. They don't seriously consider this gold digging at this point, right? This isn't even close to their usual point of "Mean Lady buys most expensive items on menu and I spent $100+", this guy is fr telling men to cry that they pay for their date at Applebee's lmaoooo.

If a man I was seeing didn't think I was worth spending $10 on but definitely still thought he deserved to have sex with me I would say he's the one who is entitled 🤷‍♀️

finalbosskitten · 2022-04-14T15:51:15+00:00

I find it more disturbing than anything because "entitlement" in its modern usage is extremely loaded, and imagine the 50-50 women that would just go along with it, thinking, "oh, that's so cute of him!" only to be insta-demonized by a guy that basically just shit tested her. Projecting entitlement onto a woman's passivity/acceptance of something is just super creepy.

Women are already trying to show that they aren't entitled, making themselves smaller and more accepting of anything even if it's shit. In spite of men being studied to be less generous, greedier, and in general, less prosocial (all reasons why it's more important for women to vet against them), women are disportionately policed over "microaggressions" like these and expected to overcompensate for ethical failings they probably don't even have. This seems like another layer to the doom-spiral. Also, I wanted to add that a guy that demands his gestures to be seen as good/kind as if they should automatically get him points always is creepy to me. But that's mostly a hunch.

ReadLearnLove · 2022-04-14T16:37:23+00:00

This man is very moronic who thinks that by offering to pay for a dinner on a date he will establish the entitlement of a woman. He wishes. How sad that such a simple-minded person has a large audience.

Anonimica_X · 2022-04-14T15:24:15+00:00

Lol....this is the Matthew Hussey advice regurgitated. Nothing original, just the same old negging women to not be "entitled". 🥱🥱🥱🥱

spinsterchachkies · 2022-04-14T16:56:59+00:00

Women SHOULD expect and are ENTITLED TO, basic courtesy on a date, that the man asked her on. That’s just not being a rude piece of shit. He wants her to get glammed up for him then pretend to pay half for his ego? Anything else I can get for you while I’m down here sir? How embarrassing. And if he never calls you again for this, thank god. From now on don’t do the fake pay move ladies! New way to vet asshoes. Find a man that doesn’t want a fake chick cause of his smol dick energy.

Maingurl · 2022-04-14T16:06:39+00:00

In my culture, it's rude to invite someone out to eat and expect them to pay!?!

Like just imagine him pulling this shit during family outings lol.

"Sorry babe but your mom is selfish for letting me pay for her."

"The fact that your aunt didn't pull out her wallet speaks volumes..."

B!tch Bye!

I hope this man stays away from Hispanic women because we will not tolerate this mess!

warinmymind94 · 2022-04-14T19:12:00+00:00

Ah a divorce lawyer giving advice to the redp1lled ince1s, classic. This is clever the lawyer giving "advice" which results in more divorced men needing services to come to him.

If he won't pay for a dinner then he's cheap, doesn't see me as a relationship, shows ge isn't interested in me. Plus dies he know that he can AT LEAST pay for a dinner? I'm taking time out of my day and driving to meet him. I'm getting dolled up in a pretty outfit and makeup and heels to impress. It's not cheap or easy. The birth control burden is still on women. Plus I'm the one who can get pregnant. I'm the one who is at risk from a dirty peen.

If he doesn't pay for a damn dinner I will just quietly pay my share - he will not get any reaction out of me - but I will then delete snd block him after I leave.

seraphinelysion · 2022-04-14T16:18:37+00:00

Don't want to pay? Then don't ask me out. Not a hard concept. Why do you think it's acceptable to waste my time if you have nothing to offer me?

ETA: I got a butthurt msg from a scrote saying he finds women who ask him out to be a lot better. Of course you do. You didn't have to do anything. And that's fine. You do you and stick with the PickMes you like so much. But then why are you trying so hard convince me to change when you don't find women with an FDS mentality attractive? Hmm...???

lostmillenia · 2022-04-14T16:34:02+00:00

My take is that losers never win.

Any way he spins it, he's still pathetic.

Love the backpedaling.

thowawaywookie · 2022-04-14T15:59:20+00:00

He is entitled. He wants to be the princess, the prize.

throwawayaway388 · 2022-04-14T18:08:43+00:00

Of course this is a Toronto Man.

Interesting-Bat3992 · 2022-04-14T15:35:13+00:00

I like how he backpedaled in the article when a comment talked about the amount of expenses a woman has to put into to be presentable for the date. It is he who is entitled. He is expected to pay. End of story.

Jandi18 · 2022-04-15T03:45:57+00:00

Always the men that can’t get dates are the men giving advice…okay loser

Erocitnam · 2022-04-15T09:17:55+00:00

You just learned that the person in front of you is entitled, and frankly, has the audacity to expect a near stranger to pay for them.

It's not audacity or entitlement when it's a long established social standard. Imagine treating other standards this way, "my brother is so entitled, he expected me to get him a christmas gift", "this host has the audacity to just accept the wine I brought without trying to pay me back for it!" Give me a break.

Biracial_tooth_fairy · 2022-04-14T23:24:16+00:00

"The issue is when women perceive the payment as an obligation as opposed to a kind gesture. Entitled vs. appreciative. No one owes anybody anything!" he wrote.

Okay, then consider this:

WE DON'T OWE YOU SEX AFTER 3 DATES. BOY BYE.

2022-04-14T18:54:44+00:00

Hey Scrote. Let me explain LOGIC to you, since you don't have any understanding of it. If YOU ask a women out on a date, that means You Pay. But apparently You want to be on every women's blacklist. Congratulations.

SayNad · 2022-04-15T02:23:44+00:00

Men who complain about paying for dates are broke whiny manchild who can't afford to properly court a woman, much less to be expected to carry the responsibility of a man in a relationship.

He still want to play the big adult game knowing very well he can't afford it - how immature. Drop him and find a fully mature, relationship-ready men instead.

Keepers12345 · 2022-04-15T09:06:45+00:00

A divorce attorney isn't a psychologist, marriage counselor, or therapist.

His advice isn't credible.

He's making assumptions. For every entitled wife and husband, there are way more that are happy and don't nit pick over dollars.

This is clickbait.

queen_azulaa · 2022-04-14T18:28:20+00:00

Ackkkk this was the tiktok I was talking abt...

FUBARfromLSA · 2022-04-14T15:46:38+00:00

My thoughts?

Ugh.

fiaoty · 2022-07-14T15:55:37+00:00

A lot of women here are given the wrong advise.

I made an effort to dress well therefore I deserve to be wined and dined blah blah.

Says who?? Aside from sex what do you bring to the table??? Are you smart, submissive, agreeable, caring?? Why would men bother to wife you up if you are none of the above??? Bish your looks are the minimum to needed to get the job interview but your personality determines whether you land the job(and stay) or not.

I want equality!! blah blah blah!

Women have gotten lots of rights since the last century. You want equality?? Fine. then stop bishing and Pay for your own food during dates (reeeee!!), don't complain if men don't give up their seats on the bus for you, or expect to cut lines ETC. Because EQUALITY RIGHT???

I won't settle for anything less than a 9!

Bish, are you a 9??? Guys who are 9 will also look for a woman in their league. Stop the delusion and stay within your actual market value. Lots of 49ers (a 4 acting like a 9) lately so cringy.

Stay in your feminine frame you are females after all, you are not the weaker sex as what the feminists wants you to believe. Women and men complement each other. If you act masculine (competitive, argumentative, arrogant, bossy) chances are you won't find a guy that will marry you. Believe me. For the women who are on their 20s, stop acting like entitled pricesses, you are not special as what Disney led you to believe. Don't wait for your 30s to settle down because younger, hotter more fertile women will be your competitors and you will be at a disadvantage.

No-your-mother · 2022-08-24T12:03:24+00:00

Could I speak to the man in charge?

Title	Thoughts On This “Men Paying On Dates For Them To Look Out For Entitled Women” article??
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Date	April 14, 2022 3:14 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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