Why are women hated so much by men?

purasangria · 2022-01-31T05:47:45+00:00

They hate us because we hold the key to them being validated as men. If you're not getting p*ssy, then you're not a real man. (They believe)

Yet they can't force a woman to give him access to her body. This enrages them. We have something that they want, that they can't legally buy, that they must rely on us for.

Why do you think all the inc*l forums love the idea of the government assigning every man a woman? Because absent force or coercion, most women don't want most men. If you want proof, just look at OLD stats: 80% of women are seeking out the top 20% of men. The bottom 80% get zero attention, or only attention from the least desirable women.

Their problem is that they ALL think they they deserve the top 20% . It's a mathematical impossibility. So they feel rage that they can't have the woman that they want -- or any woman at all.

The bell curve for male attractiveness is not smooth. There is the top 20%, and then a sort of continental shelf dropoff past which male desirability plummets -- and 80% of men are off that cliff. This explains why 80% of men on OLD get zero matches. Zero. Not even women their own age want them; their fantasies of 20s and 30s women never materialize, despite delusional promises that "men age like fine wine."

In contrast, women are always desired. I'm in my 50s, and men in their 30s ask me out. I only date younger men now, because the men my age are so fat and gross.

We are no longer susceptible to the economic coercion that previous generations of women endured. Women are now outearning men, thus making LVM even less likely to get a woman of his own. LVM have no power anymore. They can't force us. They can't coerce us. All they can do is issue dire warnings that most of us will end up childless unless we cave to their demands --- oops! Now we have artificial insemination, so we don't need them for that either. So now they've become useless. Just imagine.

We have all the power. Flex it, ladies.

This is why this sub enrages them so much. We're making it even harder to get access to us.

Edit: spelling

Platipus6 · 2022-01-31T07:00:06+00:00

Most girls have a very clear demarcation of the end of childhood and the... flowering into womanhood, even if it's a ridiculous age, like 11-12 years old. We blossom by ourselves. We need no-one and nothing to step into our womanhood and become (possible) creators of life.

Western countries have stopped ceremonies for boys.. if they even had any? Would fathers take their 15 year old sons camping and tell them the facts of life? Give them a sip of beer? Teach them how to drive a stick shift? Senior prom? Join the military?

Anyway, seeing as boys need an external marker for "becoming a man", they rely on women to help them prove it - getting laid.

With the absolute state of males these days, boys never get that "aha" because they're unfuckable and remain stunted virgins until 30+. So we have a bunch of mentally, emotionally, spiritually immature, grown men, with nothing but built-up resentment and aggression and blame for women.

We're preventing them from becoming men, and it's all our fault. 😭 Ignore the part where they're jerking it like chimps to violent rape porn on the reg and can't look a woman in the eye or hold a coherent conversation.

They know we create life, and if we want to have a family, we just point at any single (or married, lol) male who would be thrilled to be picked, whether he's LVM or not, we decide who becomes a father. If a man wants a family and no woman wants him, he's out of luck forever. Unaccompanied men aren't the suave bachelors they imagine. Single men are first viewed as predatory, unwanted, creepy and losers. If a woman doesn't want him, something's up. They get the side eye. Women gather their kids closer. If a man has a woman on his arm, everyone relaxes. He's instantly seen as "not a threat". People are willing to talk to him. People trust women's judgement 100% and confer that (unearned) trust onto him by proxy. Married men are cool, trustworthy, family men. They get promotions and raises. Bachelor losers can stay in the mail room.

Seeing as we're so meanly rejecting every source of social standing, self-esteem, identity and pride for men, they're losing their minds. Hence the abortion bans. We can't stop men becoming "father"!

Dudes. Take your sons into the forest, ffs. Then tell them to get a job for self-esteem.

Davina33 · 2022-01-31T09:19:55+00:00

They have to bring us up every time, even when their discussion is nothing to do with women. I've just come across a post by a man who said his parents never taught him how to wash his penis. Then some twat chimes in saying washing a penis is much easier than washing a vulva. Their misogyny is everywhere.

I honestly think they are jealous of us. Sex drives so much of their existence and they would rather be us because we get it so easily. Obviously there's a lot more to it than just sex but sex seems to be a big bugbear of theirs.

scorchedsouI · 2022-01-31T08:38:09+00:00

Multiple reasons, all irrational and selfish in nature. Men with sisters often times resent women more than other men, because they're typically outperformed by their sisters, which is normal, and develop an inferiority complex towards all women as a result.

Men also hate women because they feel that their bodies don't entirely belong to them because of women. A big reason why men seek to sexually dominate women with violence is vindictive in nature, their extreme physical attraction, need and dependence towards women makes them suspect that they exist for women rather than themselves or other men.

This is an objective truth from an evolutionary perspective, but it's incompatible with the male ego that wants to view itself as the prize, and the one that should be chased and doing the picking. Safe to say, men hate women because they're inherently disposable while women are not.

Men are also extremely anxious and fearful of female sexuality, specifically because they are disposable. They resent womanhood and female sexuality because it is explorative in nature, and always seeks to upgrade. This is beneficial for our species, but not for the individual man that absolutely does not want to be replaced by a superior male, or unknowingly provide resources for the offspring of a man who's better suited to being a biological father, and has higher-quality sperm.

This is why men don't want women to be free and exercise their sexuality and selectivity. Oppressing women is a form of mate-guarding.

I suspect the fact that women don't need men to reproduce, just an occasional sexual encounter, while men need women to have children has also stung men's pride throughout history. Marriage resolved that.

Generally, men hate women because of biological inferiority and anxiety of replacement. These fears have manifested as extreme aggression and oppression, as men turn to externalise their feelings in such a way, and they have shaped human culture.

Junior-Lion7893 · 2022-01-31T07:53:59+00:00

Wow… men saying that you have to test the car first before you buy and them also saying they don’t want pre-owned cars lol

There’s literally no logic with them. Total catch 22.

Edit: Grammar

Muffcakelord · 2022-01-31T11:12:38+00:00

A tiny bit off topic but I genuinely dislike people saying as a personal trait that they don't buy pre-owned anything. It's screams ignorance, elitism, shallowness, having been coddled, and insecurity. This is what they admit to even if they genuinely talk about cars and not women.

When they compare women to cars, they admit in addition to being misogynistic. Thank them for telling on themselves so well

RedWineandWienerDogs · 2022-01-31T05:38:34+00:00

I have never been bullied more by men in my life than as an adult. It’s absolutely disgusting. Sure I was bullied as a kid by boys. SOME of them apologized for it when they got older (which I thought was awesome and I really appreciated). But holy shit, putting in-person confrontations aside, the only hateful and rude DM’s I ever get on IG are from men!!! It is fascinating.

Girls are the sweetest 💗 lol

ETA: and honestly, I love men. I was raised by a HVM single father since the age of 12, so when this stuff happens I’m just like…. Why? What’s wrong with you? It wasn’t until I got older that I realized that not all men are HVM like my father lol 😂🙄 Whoops.

mandoa_sky · 2022-01-31T06:12:37+00:00

read this: https://scoop.upworthy.com/therapist-shares-why-men-dont-actually-like-women?fbclid=IwAR2qV7BtyCT4r66vwf2Xp8ipWiumZO_ugqrrDBZW1e0y7QS76XOqWoGiovA

jupitaur9 · 2022-01-31T13:09:45+00:00

A lot of great answers here.

I think one part of it goes back to childhood, and their mothers, who were usually the more involved parent, controlling them, nourishing them, choosing for them. They rebel.

The reason many of them are so anti-abortion is because they identify with the fetus, not the woman hosting it.

They fear being annihilated by their mothers, whether it’s being controlled and absorbed by her, or simply being thrown away.

Her choice is perceived as an existential threat. How else can you explain their emotionally fraught claim that the species will die out if women don’t put up with harassment, catcalling and rape?

BeautifulMadness7 · 2022-01-31T07:43:55+00:00

Everytime I open tiktok and see posts like these it makes me sad. Why do they hate us so much :(

queen_azulaa · 2022-01-31T06:58:28+00:00

I recently came across psych content rabbit hole regarding Freud's penis envy theory. How women dont envy having a penis. Women envied having autonomy and equity that only men had during the period the theory was proposed.

Karen Horney proposed the womb envy theory in response where men punish and hate women because we are the ultimate gatekeepers of biology which all evolutionary functions lead to: procreation. If women dont chose you as worthy of mating with, youre bottom barrel. Your genes deserve to disappear. And that transcends physical death. Women can now pursue careers, protect themselves (more compared to the past albeit still not enough), and other things that may trigger "penis envy". But men still cannot create and sustain life.

Any feminine symbol of procreation such a breasts, lactation, pregnancy, childbearing are then either compensated on - hypermasculine or male exclusive activities, devalued - pornography of procreation (pregnancy, lactation) or lack of merit for household and child rearing, and appropriation - prolife, sex work

CrabEatingFox · 2022-01-31T08:29:35+00:00

Tbh I ignore most of what I see regarding this on TikTok. Majority of women commenting are teens who don't know better. It's hard as fuck because they are perpetuating such bullshit, but you can't help everyone. You're completely right in your observations, but unfortunately most videos on TikTok are lost to the pick me's, lvms, kids, and bot accounts.

EarthKveik · 2022-01-31T15:33:44+00:00

As far as LVM are concerned, our presence outside the home mean there are even more people in the world who can outclass them and threatens to rob them of sex, offspring and wife work.

We don't exist to serve them and they can't force us to. In the workplace and world in general, they have to interact and even compete with us instead of automatically being placed on top just because they are men. And they despise us for this.

c_a_t_lady · 2022-01-31T08:24:07+00:00

The pre-owned car and other object metaphors are so ridiculous. I've come across people saying stuff like "I bet dating a virgin woman feels like finally getting a new car instead of driving a pre-owned one", "men want virgins because would you rather to have a pre-owned car/used shoe/already chewed gum or a new car/a new shoe/gum others haven't chewed?" And "as a response to when someone says virginity doesn't matter* If you buy a new pair of shoes and wear them they lose value".

Maybe we just shouldn't compare humans to objects, because they are not the same thing!

But if we can just make any metaphor and call it a valid argument, then a pen that gets sharpened and used too much becomes shorter and eventually useless and gets thrown away as garbage.

But that's not the same thing, is it? They have no problem comparing women to objects because to them we are already objects.

vilepurity · 2022-01-31T18:03:31+00:00

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fdsonlynoscrubs · 2022-01-31T13:16:26+00:00

One time I was dating this guy and I don’t really understand why but he would show me memes like this. He showed me a meme his “friend” posted on FB about a woman surrounded by cats because she was too picky. But this “friend” who posted it is a pretty fat guy out of work no real job who makes money by sometimes driving people to the airport for cash (not Uber, just driving friends for cash) and by begging. I said something like “I’d rather live with a hundred cats than that guy.” And the guy I was dating kind of laughed and he was like “yeah your probably right” but now I’m thinking …. Why the hell did he show me this in the first place?! Anyway, that guy is long gone and I’m sure his friend is still scrounging for cash by driving friends to the airport, and I’m fine with all of that.

blackmetalbetty · 2022-02-01T01:35:15+00:00

Because you need a fucking scapegoat to hate while you're marring the surface of the Earth- raping, pillaging, murdering, maiming, setting everything alight with your poorly managed anger.🤷🏾‍♀️

fnafcole · 2022-08-26T08:57:08+00:00

im a man and stfu

Title	Why are women hated so much by men?
Author	vilepurity
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Date	January 31, 2022 5:18 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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