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Joe Rogan Standing His Ground

Not_even_tryna_troll
July 7, 2015
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Title Joe Rogan Standing His Ground
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Upvotes 444
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Date July 7, 2015 2:57 PM UTC
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[–]moosevice_dot_com 191 points192 points193 points 11 years ago (52 children) | Copy Link

"Ohh you're so dark and mysterious...It's an act because you're miserable." - Joe Rogan nails it down.

[–]jb_trp 122 points122 points122 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Joe is RP as fuck. He's confident, assertive when he needs to be, and always in control. Total master of frame.

[–]sigmayogi 18 points18 points18 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, I just don't know why he got married. He always says do t get married on his show, yet signed into bondage himself.

Other than that he is fuckin awesome.

[–]nutty_bi26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago [recovered] (18 children) | Copy Link

His wife is extremely hot at least.

[–]sigmayogi 29 points29 points29 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

He has more smv from the looks of it, even at 50.

[–][deleted] 14 points14 points14 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]BlatantTRPThrowaway12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Except when you're Joe Rogan: a decent-looking, world-famous red pill-minded celebrity. Then the SMV conversation is almost totally pointless.

[–][deleted] -2 points-2 points-2 points 11 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]veggie_girl2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The woman's SMV doesn't matter. All that matters is her perceived SMV of him. You can be a broke jobless drug addict, but (hot young) Britney Spears would still marry you if she perceived your SMV was superior to hers. It usually boils down to passing shit tests, self confidence, etc... Never forget that once a relationship is established a shit test is the primary way women judge a man's SMV, deal with the bullshit correctly and your perceived SMV stays high. Without shit-tests her ability to judge your SMV is akin to holding 1 eye closed and trying to establish depth perception.

Rogan has enough social proof and confidence going for him that his actual SMV is irrelevant because no matter what girl he is with he will be superior to her. Regardless though, getting married was a bad idea but I don't have all the detalis. Maybe A) She has as much money as he does. B) Solid pre-nup. C) Wants to have kids in wedlock. D) Who knows

If you want an extreme example of this, lookup prison marriages.

[–]sigmayogi1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah good strategy for a guy. Or someone who perceives themselves to have lower smv.

[–]herewehoagain 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Who is she? I've attempted to find and failed

[–]ChadThundercockII0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She is called Jessica. No one knows anything else about her.

[–]SephiXen3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Uhhh you've seen his wife? That's interesting considering very few people even have a confirmed name.

[–]kilimanjaro1313 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

He said his name himself in one of his podcasts, slipped up. She was very easy to find on Facebook/instagram, and she's a dime.

He got married after being with her for ~10 years, after they had children, because it was important to her and he's not going anywhere, after much resistance on his part, with a prenuptial. Those are his words.

[+]SephiXen-8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Link please, if you're talking about Jessica Rogan I believe she's an unrelated party with the same last name.

[–]kilimanjaro13-4 points-3 points-2 points 11 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm not going to link to her...lol, not that I even saved a link. An unrelated party with the same last name who's obviously wealthy that lives in cali with two young girls and no mention of her husband? Maybe it's a decoy by someone from the message board, but probably not.

[+]SephiXen-9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Okay let's assess what you just said.

Living in LA

  • Same last name. (Population of almost 4 million in LA)

  • Obviously wealthy (She's a model, but outside of that there's no real evidence that she's wealthy anywhere. Social media, specifically Instagram is VERY deceiving especially for a model)

  • Two young girls (No evidence of her having a child whatsoever, not sure where you pulled this from)

  • No mention of her husband (hence.... probably not fucking married? Seems pretty rational hmm?)

Your logic doesn't make sense on every front you're attempting to base it on.

[–]kilimanjaro133 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We aren't talking about the same profiles.

[–]SephiXen2 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Apparently not, which leads us back to the notion that nobody fucking knows who Joe Rogan is married to outside of Joe and the comedians he hangs out with. It's that simple.

[–]CuriousErnestBrine -8 points-8 points-8 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=joe+rogan+wife

[–]SephiXen1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah good job smart ass, except if you would've taken some time to poke around you'd see Jessica Rogan is a model that's never had kids (Joe has 2) and has NEVER been photo'd with Joe in LA of all places.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Joe+and+Jessica+Rogan

[–]29-M-LA7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Almost definitely for his kids.

Also, the way he openly defends prostitution.. I'd bet him and his wifey are ok with him relieving some stress outside the home.

[–]sigmayogi6 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I think this is true for most celebs.

[–]a3rospace2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He says that his wife is his best friend. maybe that's why?

[–]sigmayogi 8 points8 points8 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Might just be as close to the unicorn as it gets. I honestly have hard time imagining a cunt slipping by his filter. Also he is intelligent enough to handle it.

[–]a3rospace3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah for sure. The bullshit filter is STRONG with Joe.

[–]notwhomyallthink 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Dude, RP is not: don't get married.

You read it wrong. His wife is hot, and I bet he's happy at home. A real man gets married to the right woman and rules the roost.

Reread, man. Peace

[–]sigmayogi0 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No I did not read it wrong. RP is by far and clearly: DO NOT GET MARRIED.

You don't get to define what "a real man" is or does. Yes, please read the sidebar. Thanks!

[–]Deanb1307 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is a serious question wouldnt him getting pissed off at her be falling into her frame?

[–]SecondThreat 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Joe is RP as fuck. Total master of frame.

Considering the video at hand, I got the impression that he lost frame because he got really angry over it. I understand that we should show our anger when it serves a purpose, but to me it looked as if she was getting under his skin. If this is a case where he didn't lose frame, then why is that?

[–]RPSigmaStigma12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nothing wrong with righteous anger. The trick is to not get all whiney and butthurt when your girl turns you down for sex or flakes on you. But a righteous display of warranted masculine furry can go a long way to bulldoze right over some narcissistic bitch's little fantasy world where everyone caves in to her little manipulative shaming tactics.

[–]1jb_trp31 points32 points33 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Meh. He's putting some dumb bitch in her place, not trying to have sex with her. Although she probably would have sex with him. His amused mastery is incredible. He's in total control and in his own frame.

[–]kragshot9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was going to say the same thing.

He didn't "lose" frame; he "let it go" in order to get his point across to her and insure that when he did "put his hands on her," it was understood by everyone around that he was not "reacting" to her behavior, but he was "countering" it through righteous indignation (because she put her hands on him first).

[–]PeteMullersKeyboard5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This. Anger is very useful as a tool to impress upon someone else the ideas you want to convey to them. Not like an angry child throwing a temper tantrum, but in such a way that they understand the weight of the situation and what they've done.

[–]Rathadin11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This is another one of my big frustrations with TRP guys... some dipshit, somewhere, has brainwashed you guys into thinking any time you get angry, you've lost.

That's a load of horseshit. There's plenty of times to get angry, and plenty of times to blow up on someone.

That said... I do feel like, initially, Joe was coming off a little bitchy, but he really pulled through in the end, especially the part when he flat out tells her how she wanted to make the whole conversation about her. That was spot on.

[–]rpscrote0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If someone says a bunch of shit to you and you punch him in the face, he goes down, that's not losing frame. I have no clue where people are getting this idea from

[–]rpscrote0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He maintained his position, continually asserted he was right. 100%, grade A, perfect example of holding frame. He never entered her narrative, he meta-commentary'd on her bullshit control tactics.

Notice by the end she is repeating what he's saying because he fully and totally controls the narrative.

How anyone could perceive this as him "losing frame" as if losing your temper is the same as entering someone else's world view, is beyond me

[–]Kenny_Twenty0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He did lose frame. He also says he feels like he should've handled it better. This was a long time ago and he somewhat regrets yelling at her.

[–]Deanb1307 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes I was thinking the same thing

[–]merteil2 9 points9 points9 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

No offense but this seems like it could be directed against those "dark triad" guys too.

[–]sigmayogi3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Dark triad is something entirely different no?

[+]moosevice_dot_com -45 points-44 points-43 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (6 children) | Copy Link

Are you a fag? Why do you say no offense? What's on your mind son? Speak up, don't' be shy.

[–]DownvotesCatposts38 points39 points40 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

No one can see your muscles flexing when you're on the internet, bro.

[–]tuxedoburrito5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Minus the fag, he's got a point.

TRP men don't worry about offense. Obviously use tact but if someone gets offended and doesn't like you, that's their fault. I mean check your heart but offense has way more to do with the offended than it does the intentions of the offender.

[–]DownvotesCatposts2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Agree whole-heartedly, but his specific reply smells like that one guy in gym class who sucks at sports but blamed it on everyone else. You, however, have learned how to pluck an element of truth from a statement covered in stupidity - and that right there is an enviable skill.

[–]RemyPrice0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"No offense but [says something offensive]."

That's standard Beta Bitch 101.

[–]Republicrats77 points78 points79 points 11 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

This is a similar one from Joe. The guy is a legend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dmNCjLUqA4

[–]cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum24 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This sums up red pill perfectly.

[–]algidum20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

ROFL, now let's see your belly shorty!

[–]honey_pie 20 points20 points20 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Another I like where an attractive girl tries.. I dunno would you call it shit testing? Anyway Joe refuses to bend to her BS and she throws a hissy fit.

pt1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Yja1rpbZ8

pt2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=161QyAuy8mQ

[–]hamsterbator18 points19 points20 points 11 years ago [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

This just goes to show you how fucking bad girls are at flirting. If they literally didn't just have to spread their legs and depend on their personality they would never reproduce. She clearly wants the D.

Then they shit all over guys for not being smooth, for being creepers, for having a bad line etc.

[–]cazzah12321 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ari shaffir in the background looking 110% jew

[–]Avatar_Yung-Thug2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Repping the fro for the rest of us curly headed Jews

[–]windowkicker 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes, it is a shit test. His problem was taking what she was saying at face value-

Girl wants to get attention from the Alpha, makes up the worst type of innane bullshit to talk to him. He responds to her logic, when he should have amplified to absurdity. She makes him annoyed, which is what she wants- drama and attention over everything else. Now she can go home and tell everyone that Joe Rogan was an asshole to her.

[–]calantus10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

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What is this?

[–]honey_pie 19 points19 points19 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

His problem... he should have

That's only true if you assume he wants to lay her already.

e: if you think i'm wrong that's great but I wouldn't mind you explaining why. I think Joe is just trying to be true to himself and DGAF about her and there's also a little self-amusement going on perhaps.

[–]NoSolaceWasPromised6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

He had a camera on, and wanted some entertaining footage. Pretty sure that was his main perogative.

[–]honey_pie3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Definitely! I nearly edited again to put that in. You could also argue he is filtering out crazy bitches too-- there is definitely some flirting from him in the 2nd video so I don't think "get footage" is 100% of his motivation. Also NB he is high as fuck.

[–]TheDialecticParadox0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol a guy you hit on isn't interested in your fucking stale personality so that makes him rude and a jerk?

It's hilarious to see a woman approach a guy, and then get shot down in flames.

[–]RPSigmaStigma9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I love that look on her face. That's the look of a girl cumming right in her pants while trying to play it off.

[–]RemyPrice1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Damn, I saw this and didn't know how to put it into words. Nailed it.

[–]cazzah1235 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

haha I love that "whats up?"

[–]CruiseCruise 50 points50 points50 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Theres kindness in all that energy, too. That's interesting to me.

In a way, he's reacting to her in the only way that might possibly dislodge her from her own bullshit for her own good. when he says it's something "she needs to hear" I think he really means it. Maybe he's not just spouting some random shit to keep a crazy lady at bay. There's possibility here he actually gives a shit about other people and is trying to do something positive, using the only communication style that works in those situations. Interesting.

Watch it again with the thought "maybe he's trying to help her." It's interesting!

[–]sigmayogi15 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

The way he handles Twitter trolls on his show is like that too. Never stops seeing them as misguided people.

Seems like a really good dude.

[–]RPSigmaStigma12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago* [recovered] (0 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of how Patrice O'Neal would talk to women about their "sickness". You could tell Patrice was really concerned about the state of mind modern women have and how they're selling themselves short with their own bullshit.

[–]ringob822 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The best example of leadership and justice is cause and effect.

[–]Vigilo_Infinite0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're totally right and that's a really interesting observation.

At any point this interaction could end if she just said "Yeah, I did cross the line a little didn't I? Sorry man, I didn't mean to do that."

She shows him no respect so he shows her none. I like Rogan a lot - especially as with stuff like this his manor is very "matter of fact". There are no random insults, just truth of how he sees it.

Always maintain the moral high ground.

[–]CruiseCruise1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

At any point this interaction could end if she just said "Yeah, I did cross the line a little didn't I? Sorry man, I didn't mean to do that."

Yes. From beginning to end, all she is trying to do is get the upper hand in the conversation. Nothing she says has any meaning, except as powertalk, as a tactic.

That's a tough jagged red pill all in itself. Is accepting that some conversations have nothing to do with the words people are saying; that their words don't mean the same as if a normal person were saying them.

[–]Sebsebzen72 points73 points74 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Joe's got a good heart. He calls her out for bullying others.

[–]f3yleaf27 points28 points29 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Rogan is a pretty inspirational dude imo.

[–]Jojonounee106 points107 points108 points 11 years ago (44 children) | Copy Link

Joe Rogan knows exactly what kind of pathetic human being he's dealing with, and he handles it nearly perfect. The annoying part is that you absolutely need to have a certain level of confidence to deal with these people.

Another great example is RSD Tyler dealing with the same kind of person: https://youtu.be/Mm-qSDmVBhg?t=10m

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon47 points48 points49 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The annoying part is that you absolutely need to have a certain level of confidence to deal with these people.

Yes, because society isn't on your side. You can't rehash a million trite sayings that go against men, you don't have an army (of both genders) ready to dive in and support you because of your fantastically well reasoned argument*.

*vagina

[–]coffee_and_lumber15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (27 children) | Copy Link

Joe Rogan knows exactly what kind of pathetic human being he's dealing with, and he handles it nearly perfect.

This ability is what makes him one of the best heckler destroyers in comedy, even if his actual act is kinda just okay. Some comics can go and parry back and forth with a heckler, trying to keep the show rolling with jokes here and there, and that works. But Joe gets right at who they are at their core and zeros right in on it. Squeezes their egos out like a wet rag.

[+]SephiXen-9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago* (26 children) | Copy Link

There's an image floating around the internet of him destroying some hater on MySpace, it's hilarious how accurate he is.

I'm a huge fan of Rogan, I'm actually listening to JRE Podcast #2 for today as we speak. He's sort of an anomaly in regards to Red Pill philosophy though.

He's jacked as fuck, speaks his mind, generally doesn't give a shit, and has certain attributes of alpha behavior. However... he sells bullshit products, he's very feminine in some of his views and there's speculation that he might be bisexual.

I really respect the guy and his comedy though, and I think if you buy into the image that he portrays (I do think most of it is legitimate) then he's a good guy to look up to in certain regards.

There's also a video floating around YouTube where he chokes out some weird fucker that keeps touching him. He doesn't go alpha guerrilla roid rage or anything, he just tells the creepy fuck what's going to happen if he keeps being weird, executes, and then the situation diffuses from there.

Edit: Another Blue Pill behavior, biggest one at that; got married and had two kids.

[–]Moonwlkr5026 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I don't get why you're suddenly blue pill if u get married. As long as you aren't whipped into a Beta and your wife respects you why can't you still be red pill? I feel like the consensus around here seems to be that the second you personally decide you like a girl well enough to settle down with her and that she earned the right to be with you that suddenly you lost sight of everything. Isn't this supposed to be a mentality/lifestyle/attitude shift rather than just being alone forever and thinking every woman in the world is exactly the same and impossible to stay with while still maintaining your own alpha control?

[–]SephiXen21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You can settle down with a chick without marrying her. The reason it's seen as more of a blue pill behavior is because marriage is NEVER a necessity, and statistically if you're a male in a traditional relationship you're going to get burned after a certain period of time.

If you ask the "leaders" around here they'll tell you The Red Pill is first and foremost about sexual strategy. Marriage is also known as the inevitable kiss of death for a man's sex life. Part of that is due to some fucked up female psychology but most of it has to do with the fact that humans aren't monogamous by nature. Saying you're red pill and then going to get married is like saying you're going to run a race but half way through you shoot yourself in the foot.

Outside of that fundamental issue it's seen as a shitty decision because you're usually expected to be the provider, you are generally the losing party in any sort of child support or alimony cases, you are exposed to various hypocritical standards in the event of moral dilemmas (women are wonderful effect) and just a metric shit ton of other problems arise as a result of a marriage taking it's normal course in today's society.

You are signing yourself up for a world of hurt getting married. If you don't believe me then you need to spend more time reading some of the stories that gain traction in this sub, they are HORRIFIC.

Not all men want to fuck whores their whole life, I understand that yearn, I'm in an LTR with a girl I respect. With that being said, she knows I'm not getting married and I've explained why in a more neutral vernacular. She's fine with it. If you are with a chick that wants you to sign away your life, you are with the wrong fucking chick. You can be together without signing a piece of paper, do not let society trick you into doing some silly shit.

[–]Moonwlkr502 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Now that's a legitimate answer I was looking for. I don't have time to respond heavily yet just wanted to thank you for taking the time to explain the mindset.

[–]SephiXen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't worry about it my brotha

[–]yaboimoneymitch7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Its red pill on hard mode. Sure, its possible, but it requires constant micromanagement, and frame cranked up to 11, because unlike a non marital LTR, half of your shit is on the line.

[–]plentyoffishes7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Marriage is for fools, BP or not. I would say marriage is BP, because it's intention is "together forever", which is BS, and, you're asking the government permission to be with someone, which is BP BS stuff.

You need to learn, "alone forever" and not being married are NOT the same thing.

[–]Moonwlkr50-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I get all the hassles that can come with it, but is there really absolutely nothing good about it? Of course there are annoyances and micromanagement because you have to make compromises to build a life with someone else. That shouldn't mean you lose all control if you're actually compromising with each other but you're still holding the alpha position though. I would think getting a woman who stays loyal to you, being able to have kids at some point without the family being broken up, and eventually not having to spin a bunch of plates when I'm in my 60s and 70s would be enough of a perk to get married, but that's just my initial thought. Half of the comments on marriage in this sub just seem to focus on the idea that the woman will just tie you down and jump ship with all of your assets the first chance she gets. The problem I have with that is we're essentially generalizing every single woman in the world into one category. You have to be denying reality to say that every single woman is a gold digger and only wants you for your assets or that every single woman will cheat on you if she gets the chance. It just seems like a similar line of thinking by automatically assuming that marriage is going to blow because a woman's in it with you. Shouldn't it just depend on the woman you're with? Shouldn't we all have learned the ability to decide whether a woman is worthy of us or not when that was part of the purpose of spinning plates in the first place?

[–]plentyoffishes3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I do believe there is nothing good about marriage besides maybe a good party when you wed. You can't put a contract on together forever, why would you try? Secondly, why do you need the government to approve of your relationship? Thirdly, the statistics aren't pretty. Half of marriages end in divorce, and the other half...let's just say most or at least half of those are not healthy.

I don't believe in the gold digger theory or even that they all cheat. It's just that relationships should be voluntary, as soon as you add a contract and get the government involved, you're asking for trouble.

[–]dregofsociety1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because only through the blue pill lense will you deduce such choice to be in a man's favor.

[–]TheeRyanGrey 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

just roll with it man

marriage is to TRP what trying hard is to blue pillers. they just fucking hate it.

[–]plentyoffishes4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

He often speaks out of both sides of his mouth. Like he'll trash socialism one day and the next day he'll have a socialist on the show and act like he's buying into it. You never know which way his opinion will go, kind of annoying.

[–]KetoEater4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I think Joe, much like myself, is trying to figure all of "this" out. I have views that have remained constants in my life and views that are more fluid. Most of us are the same, we just don't have regular 3 hour blocks of recorded conversation to be able to pick apart what we say like we can do with Joe.

[–]plentyoffishes-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, he's just a little more inconsistent with his views, like swinging wildly in the opposite direction and then back again. I think all that weed he smokes does have an effect!

[–]SephiXen1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It can be sometimes, I'll give you that. He's not a perfect dude though, I'm sure his thoughts on certain topics evolve just like ours over time.

[–]theHangedGod8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think Rogan has transcended alpha in a way. He's been AMOG since his late teens and has realized that there is as much value in some BP behaviors as there is in some RP behaviors.

That's also something the psychedelic experience will slam in your face. Balance is always the answer. Too much alpha, no one likes you and you'll hate yourself. Too much beta, no one likes you and you'll hate yourself.

[–]SephiXen5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know, after hearing some wisdom like that my previous view seems kinda skewed now. You're absolutely right brother, you've gotta have a balance.

[–]Markman942 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Definitely with you on this one. My experience with psychedelics (most notably my 5g trip on mushrooms) has made me a more empathetic and compassionate person which has its pros and cons. I've had these experiences pre red pill and they set me on a path of becoming a man and discovering my own masculinity. It was a coming of age ritual for me personally.

[–]Karmatsocheff 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love joe, but man I hate that he hypes up and sells bullshit products. Everything else about him is respectable.

[–]SephiXen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree man, it really irks me when he talks about how effective "Alpha Brain" is when if you just read some of the reviews on the product it's blatant bullshit. I think some of the workout equipment he sells in conjunction with Onnit are pretty cool, but they're just so overpriced it's retarded.

That said, the man is a very creative and interesting individual. I give him some slack for being so adamant in admitting he's a whore in a lot of his podcasts/stand up routines.

[–]ballotechnic-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

So Special Forces troops are bp because they are married and have kids?

[–]SephiXen1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's such a jump in rational thinking that it's almost silly to respond to, but I've got some time.

  1. By bringing up Special Forces you are trying to establish them as the de facto representation of Red Pill philosophy. Are they badasses in their own right? Definitely. Does that mean they know, follow, or even understand basic tenets of Red Pill ways? Fuck no. I was an infantryman for awhile and even though I was never in a SF unit I can tell you that some of the men I did know had zero sexual strategy and that was in due part of them basically focusing on training, going to as many schools as possible, and focusing on the dynamic that existed within their detachment.

  2. Special Forces is an umbrella term that encompasses everything from Green Barret, to Marine Force Recon, to some of the more advanced interrogation units. Another reason why this jump in logic is silly.

  3. Playing devil's advocate here, I'd like to know how many SF troops ARE married AND have kids. And then after that fact I'd like to know how likely it is for their spouse to send them a Dear John letter or just cheat while he's deployed.

Getting married is never wise, and it's seen as BP for a lot of reasons.

[–]ballotechnic0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Glad you graced me with a response. You equated being married to somehow rendering a man beta which seems ludicrous. I'm new to this whole red pill philosophy but this particular precept, which doesn't appear to be held by all, seems like a strange notion. Don't mind me though, I just continue to lurk and observe if any if this makes any sense.

Edit: Can't fully disagree with you about marriage not being wise, but some folks seem to enjoy it.

[–]SephiXen0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Red Pill is about sexual strategy first and foremost. Being "alpha" is attractive to our female counterparts, thus being alpha is what we strive for.

From this point people collect a bunch of different things surrounding what it means to be red pill and internalize what they think will be the best for them. If you follow the general theme of sexual strategy then getting married is seen as beta in a lot of respects. That's the foothold I'm speaking from, but I understand people interpret ideas in different ways. With that said I don't think marriage is right or wrong, I just think with the knowledge you gain lurking around here you should develop an understanding as to why it isn't wise and make decisions from there.

[–]ballotechnic0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see and I appreciate the response.

[–]trevoris 11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When Tyler ran up to that girl with the fake smile I lost it... Fucking hilarious

[–]GoldenGateKeeper10 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Yeah, how he dealt with the whole "burn u with mah cigarette" thing was awesome. The cunt tried to play it as if she was mature, and he was just a big boy. And then she gets called out and goes into super defensive 'let me just try and laugh n' brush it off' mode, while Joe pins her personality down perfectly.

[–]Rathadin6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

God damn... I love Tyler. I really do. Ever since I first heard about him from Neil Strauss's book The Game, I thought he was hilarious. This clip just totally shows why, regardless of what other PUAs or MGTOWs or TRPers say about him, he'll always be top notch in my opinion. Totally destroyed that little no pussy getting bitch and then has fun with chicks right afterwards.

Top. Kek.

[–]AnElegantElephant3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Man, how the hell do you cultivate this ability? It's like a hyper focus super power.

[–]windowkicker 12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It helps when you know you can beat the shit out of more than 96% of the general population. Thats why we advocate martial art and lifting on this sub.

[–]temerarious7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Tyler can't beat the shit out of anyone. He's not referring to the Joe Rogan video.

[–]Pathosphere3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cool clip. That shirt is pretty terrible but his confidence powers through it lmao

[–]life_manager4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So fucking glad to see videos of RSD Tyler still.. he's one of my favorite PEOPLE in this world, PUA aside. Really has a great grasp on how to ditch the decency bullshit and genuinely channel how to have a good time.

[–]Vigilo_Infinite2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like this one.

TL:DR: "Douchebags" like Tyler show you how low you are on the social totem pole, that's why you hate them.

I used to find Tyler really irritating and obnoxious until I realised the reason I did was because I couldn't generate that amount of energy or be that successful with women. Now I see a guy who see's what he wants and has the guts to reach for it. I like him.

You know the classic douchebag, standing in the corner of the pub, looking for his next victim? This guy is an arsehole - a complete sociopath who doesn't give a shit about anyone but himself. He'll laugh, jeer and be downright inappropriate with other people, treading on their boundaries and generally being a bit of a dick. This douchebag has PLUCKED HIS MONOBROW for fuck sake! What is that jewelry he's wearing? Pieces of leather? Look at his douchey necklace! You want nothing to do with this scumbag as an inbuilt mental reflex you reject him and his kind. He has nothing to offer you.

Lets look at it from the other side:

You have nothing to offer me. You aren't fun, interesting or have good energy going on so you aren't worth my attention. You have no cool anecdotes that would be good to listen to and don't give a fuck about your appearance. Like, really don't give a fuck. Bowl haircut, haven't showered today, scraggy nails, unironed short sleeve shirt. You don't look people in the eye when you take and give a wet-fish handshake. You can't discuss anything past "what do you do?" because you don't want to offend anyone with opinions that someone might take offence to. When you come out you're looking for a wife to live happily ever after with. You have no idea that to meet someone worthwhile you need to have encounters with them. Put the boat out, talk to strangers.

I don't give a fuck about you because you're too in your own head. You're not fun. You didn't come here to have fun. You don't get that social side of it.

You think I'm a douchebag because you're afraid. Your insecurity has made you low value. You're not there to have fun, you're here to make myself feel better by pretending you're part of the fun. The same nice guy who will pretend to be nice to get into a girls pants.

[–]transitivecurves3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGM5ECCRK-A

"Come back asshole!" Hahaha

[–]TheDialecticParadox1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how he jumps up and down smiling like a goof when the white knight commits rebuttal suicide. He's having fun with him.

Tyler is genuinely a master of social dynamics. The amount of energy he exudes gaming women is incredible.

[–]jewishclaw0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was painful and awkward. You have a totally sober guy who is an alleged expert on social dynamics versus a drunk pencil neck that can barely stand up. Yes, if you are obnoxious and incessant to an aggressive drunk that is afraid of fighting you, they will leave to get away from being annoyed by you...like a moose jumping in a lake to escape a mosquito. That was just so fucking cringe worthy.

[–]cazzah12317 points18 points19 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love the guys on here saying "well he didnt do that good, he showed anger when he should of done this or that and i would of done this different"

Truth is, 90% of the people here would absolutely buckle to these types. Joe handled it like a boss

[–]RedPillProphet1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolute truth, it is extremely hard situation to be in. I won't claim to know how to handle that situation perfectly or reliably despite handling similar many times.

Only thing that seems to work when faced with that kind of dominating/aggressive behavior is 10X more aggression (verbal) in return. Make every word sear. And you better be armed with sharper wit and an unpredictable temper that intimidates the opponent as well as the emotional stability to deliver effectively. The opponent being a women also makes things much much worse... since the public will be by her side no matter what.

[–]Ghandiwasadick30 points31 points32 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Absolute fucking gold.

One of my favorite things is watching stand up comedians destroy hecklers. If you you want to see something really great(but not necessarily TRP material) look up Bill Burr's 16 minute rant in Philly.

[–]1Sir_Distic6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

If you ever get the chance check out Matt Davis snapping on a heckler in Birmingham, AL. He's Red Pill as fuck on a dude who thinks he's Alpha and proceeds to destroy him.

[–]chadsten 26 points27 points28 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLDDGDiz6bg

LFTL

[–]skthlul12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Jesus fucking christ this guys absolutely destroys him

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[–]temerarious5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's lazy if you just say it. He tied in the guy's behavior to the insult to make it look like he's compensating for something. It worked well comedically.

[–]TheDialecticParadox-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Obviously the concept of creating a straw man and setting fire to it is a foreign concept for you.

[–]whatgold4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://youtu.be/LLDDGDiz6bg

[–]Assassin14768 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Patrice O'Neal vs Female Audience Members

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGM5ECCRK-A

Another perfect example.

[–]CabbagedDaughter9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This makes me understand the RP even more. Joe Rogan is just being himself and not playing games, good guy Joe.

[–]200mgtestc 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

just being himself and not playing games

I think this is the important part. Never be inauthentic. Never play the other person's game.

There's a certain level of social decorum that you'd be a sociopath not to follow - but being yourself isn't the same as being a punitive asshole.

[–]Lildoc_9113 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

At the 1:40 mark is when the "civil" power struggle went off the deep end. Every intention of her was to assert her dominance over joe. Up until that point he was interacting with the group, making jokes, and being cordial. She took it to the next level. Pushing, prodding, and insulting the man. At that point, there was no more talking to her, he had to talk at her. Like the man said, she needed to hear this. Everything he said about her was probably true but she's too much of an idiot to understand.

That's what women don't get in life. That check saying you fucked up. When men fuck up we get told either physically, socially, or both. Women get the pussy pass. If they look half decent, no one tells them they fucked up. They go their entire lives doing whatever they want with no consequences. That leads to a skewed view of the world. In this case, joe had to put that cunt in her place.

Someone mentioned if this were a man they'd get hit. I don't remember the last time a man touched my face in public or threatened me without violent recourse. This women is delusional.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

is it RP to call women out on their bullshit? even if that individual is someone youre trying to fuck

[–]fender004416 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Hey guys, I'm not going to pretend I'm a well versed subscriber to this sub. This being said, joe rogan is one of the people that brought out my fearlessness in taking on people, particularly strangers, in public and talking to them exactly as he describes it:what they are. People's surface displays more of their insides than you can ever imagine, all you have to do is trust the devil on your shoulder that speaks the truth. The only reason he's the devil is because he's right and our society is ignorant

[–]sigmayogi3 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

If you distill down "the society" to its common denominator you'll feel insulted trying to placate to it.

It's not worth anything but rising above.

[–]RedPillProphet0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

People's surface displays more of their insides than you can ever imagine

Could you elaborate on that? It sounds like a very interesting proposition.

[–]fender00440 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well like when he said she acts dark and mysterious because she's really miserable and lonely. People put on masks every day and more and more throughout there life until you can't see the eyes behind them. However, when you get well versed in social context reading you can tell what each of these masks is tryin to hide and see liars for what they really are. The saddest part is they're only lying to themselves. Could get more into it but I'm at gym

[–]RedPillProphet0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I would love more detail on exactly what you look for... any good sources you recommend?

[–]colombia40 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

all you have to do is trust the devil on your shoulder that speaks the truth.

well said

[–]fender00440 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks. It's helped me in the stickiest and most slippery situations

[+]Limekill-17 points-16 points-15 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

fearlessness in taking on people, particularly strangers, in public

Why would you waste your time on doing that? I can think of nothing less productive. Use your energy for better stuff.

Rest of the post was solid tho.

[–]fender004420 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

To practice my social skills

[–]SecondThreat 5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Use your energy for better stuff.

I'm genuinely curious what you consider "better stuff". Why don't you think working on your social skills is a valuable use of your time?

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[–]Limekill0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Well he was wasting his time even talking to the bitch.

Think of it this way - pretend Rogan was US president and so is a very important person - he don't need his time wasted, because his hours are very valuable. Even by acknowledging or talking to this bitch is a waste of his time. Now swap out president with high SMV male.

He did NOT learn anything, he easily destroyed her. Now perhaps Rogan was correct in calling out her bullshit... Great - but that helps her NOT him.

fender0044 stated he does this - which is 100% fine as long as he gets benefit out of it. And thats my point - keep doing it for as long as you get benefit - just don't waste your time doing because if you do it for every interaction it will just waste more of your time.

[–]itwasntme195 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"you're an out of shape older woman" she immediately got physical with absolutely no rebuttals after that. I've seen men get in knee deep in shit with someone and acknowledge they were way over their head and apologize. but not a woman,in my experience, not a single woman does that. Rachel Dolezal,Tara Brown(cancer faker) and this woman are perfect examples of that. power tripping,selfishness,controlling and pathological lying are traits are often encouraged in today's social media culture.

[–]adsnell2004 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I came here to say that Joe Rogan is a near perfect TRP example. Well done, OP.

[–]kragshot3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

First off...of all the comedians in the business; why did she think that she could get away with that bullshit with Joe Rogan. I could see her pulling that shit with Louis CK or Patton Oswalt (not that that Oswalt would probably let her get away with either...Louis CK...I don't know), but not Joe Rogan. This broad obviously did not do her homework before pushing up on Rogan.

The only way that this could have went worse is if Patrice O'Neal was still alive and she pulled that with him. Rogan tried to educate her; O'Neal would have shredded her sideways.

Next...the shit she was talking didn't halfway make sense. So when that failed, she started making little snide threats. She was quite surprised when that crap fell flat as well.

[–]TRP Vanguard: "Dark Triad Expert"IllimitableMan3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Even her beta manchild comes around to congratulate him "You're the first man who stood up to her" -- implying he tucks his balls in her purse.

I hate and simultaneously pity these guys because they enable the ridiculous personalities of these harpies. Both as fathers, and boyfriends.

[–]midnightbean21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

I'm confused. I think joe has lost frame here and is letting rage get the best of him. She's obviously cowering but still remains pretty calm.

How is this red pill? Wasn't it months ago we were discussing wolf of Wall Street if another man is hitting on your girl any anger or emotional reaction is Bp? Wasn't it discussed that if a guy gives you shit and you freak out you're being Bp? Beating your wife or gf is Bp?

I thought Rp was stoicism, cool and collected. Rage fits are red pill now? What's next texting a girl 20 times and stalking her because she's your property? Telling people your alpha? Is that all gonna be the future of red pill? Somebody please.

[–]eazyThoughts 7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I think TRP advocates being in control of your emotions, and rarely letting your feelings come before your reason. When you lose control of your emotions, you lose your ability to reason. This allows people to start manipulating your emotions without you realizing it. For a beta in the process of unplugging, being in control means being calm and "stoic" at all times.

But someone like Joe Rogan can get angry and remain in control. You could tell how strategically controlled the frame of the interaction, that although he was angry, he was fully aware of what was going on.

[–]The_TRP_Account8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Yup, there is nothing wrong with a controlled, deliberate expression of one's anger.

It takes discipline to get to that being your only kind, but it's absolutely possible. If you lose control (the key problem) and anger is the result, that's completely different. But Joe was in control here and had to raise his voice just to be heard. He got his message out clearly and didn't seem genuinely upset or as though he was acting out of hurt self-esteem. He put her in her place loudly, clearly, and concisely.

[–]eazyThoughts 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Definitely. It shows in how Rogan handled the situation that he was in control. He didn't make himself look like an ass by spitting at her or just insulting her without reason (possibly what she was hoping he'd do).

Anybody listening could tell that he was being reasonable and was justifiably angry.

[–]midnightbean2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Well said, I can see that. I think that distinction needs to be better made here. It's very rare that a person can get this angry and still remain in control.

[–]eazyThoughts 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I just want to add one thing. I think the women was trying to get Rogan riled up, thinking that he would lose his frame and come out looking like an asshole after the interaction.

For someone new to TRP, the best course of action would have been to just ignore the shit test and maintain frame. But Rogan was able to follow his natural instinct, get pissed off, but still maintain frame and put the bitch in her place. He didn't do what most angry people would do, spit at her or mindlessly insult her, which would have made him look like an ass. He strategically tore her apart, without making a fool of himself.

[–]midnightbean0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I can still strategically tear someone apart while appearing cool, but it might come from a bitterness which wouldn't be from a healthy place. In that case only the person can usually know. Do whatever the fuck you wanna do.

A lot of women assume I don't have the masculinity they crave in bed, there is not always an opportunity to prove that I do. In those cases I'd have to stage some angry rage moment or some serious sternness of some sort. It's all very gray when it comes to this stuff.

[–]whiskyvillain13 points14 points15 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. Joe Rogan's dialogue was good but he still expressed way too much anger.

[–]midnightbean6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I get the theatrics but that head bobbing stuff and what not, clearly set him off from where he was. If he was maintaining frame his frame wouldn't have changed.

[–]whynotsocialist 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like Joe because he is willing to give explore ideas out of his own curiosity & stand up for himself, not because of some stupid "holding frame" but because I think he tries to stand up for his own life. I appreciate he seems to be looking into Bernie Sanders for President 2016 so he seems open to exploring different paths & deciding for himself.

[–]LordXerces2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I like Joe Rogan, but he has a lot of content. Can anyone recommend me some good Youtube videos of him? Clips or JRE, doesn't matter.

[–]Spddracer0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That really is a tough one man. He has over 600 podcast episodes of JRE that run about 3 hours a piece. Your best bet, is to find someone you enjoy that he has had on, and listen to it. Go from there. I have been watching them since 2013, and the one thing that is consistent is Joe himself.

[–]FireandCaffeine0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Watch everything with Joey Diaz.

[–]COOLERTHANURMOM692 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEe1UOh-twA

THIS is a video of Joe talking to 2 porn stars about eating pussy. Notice how he pretends like he knows more about it than Jenna Jameson. Women loves this, making them prove to you that they know

[–]Deanb1307 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

How does one acquire this type of frame/skill ?

[–]trpfieldreport0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Become confident in who you are.

The two best ways I can think of is time and discomfort.

Joe is the kind of guy who is constantly pushing into new territory. He's always trying new things, and purposefully making himself uncomfortable for the purpose of becoming better.

He talks about being incredibly scared of fighting as a kid, and getting super nervous before fights, but he went in and did them.

I think that has a lot of impact on him now - he doesn't have any social fear, and his frame dominates almost everybody he's around.

He's incredibly confident and comfortable- probably because he puts in a lot of physical and mental work.

Self-improvement basically.

[–]scholarly_pimp5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I love how at the end of this she's complimenting him and saying she "digs his routine"...

can't resist the feels

[–]eserai0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

an example of "commanding of authorithy". man you know, this is exactly what i needed to watch. i never think of any situation when it is better than agree & amplify and others, but here he nails it

[–]deadLiftDude0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think he lost a bit of frame when the eye contact issue came up. He seemed to have an emotional reaction to it. He corrected his frame and brought her back into it later.

[–]BetterRedThanRed0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He seemed to have an emotional reaction to it.

Seemed! Exactly. He knows exactly when to pretend to be actually offended.

If he just said calmly "Don't tell people were to look!" she would probably just ignore this issue. Now it sticks in the head.

[+]Jokoran-6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reminds me of a child, actually. He freaked out when he should have remained calm.

[–]pinstrap16 points17 points18 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

He was acting that way because that approach doesn't work with those types of people. She's a domineering bitch. In order to get his point across he had to more domineering than her

[–]statsfodder-2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Joe Rogan. ... drug addled douche is more like it. Have seen his "stand up comedy" and it is boring, loud and very.. well .. american. He did good work commentating for the UFC but then roids and weed and DMT and whatever else he is taking shows he can't deal with reality... that isn't very "red pill" is it?

[+]iamfromreallife-58 points-57 points-56 points 11 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

I'm sorry, but Joe Rogan would laugh at /r/TheRedPill people.

[–]Modredpillschool31 points32 points33 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I disagree, I think he supports it.

[–]FelixCopy 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He is just socially intelligent enough to not tarnish his public image.

[–]f3yleaf4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

He is like the most happy and optimistic of TRP'ers, on this sub there are alot of people who are (understandably) bitter because they bought into the mainstream bullshit for too long, alot of people struggling thru their anger phase.

Rogan is definately inspirational, RP as fuck and a great rolemodel.

[–]cdtCPTret11 points12 points13 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Would Arnold laugh at bodybuilding.com?

[–]zuk1 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Joe Rogan is TRP through and through bro. Have you even listened to him?

[+]metalhead4-14 points-13 points-12 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Doesn't mean he goes on a forum and talks about it. Wouldn't true RPers never have to come here and share their shit?

[–]theozoph5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You're thinking of Naturals. And they don't even get there is a problem. Why would they?

But we can't all be lottery winners.

[–]ufd 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed.

Like a bird looking at a guy in a glider and wondering what all the fuss is all about.

[–]curious_Jo2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ohhhh that analogy is solid gold.

[–]federalfarmer74 points 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Not necessarily. RPers are truth seekers; truth seekers need to discuss ideas.

[–]__ZEAL__7 points8 points9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

See, if you actually knew anything about Joe Rogan... You wouldn't say that. A huge chunk of the stuff he says on The Joe Rogan Experience is straight RP.

Goddamned dweeb.

[–]coffee_and_lumber2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's really kinda the patron saint of this movement, or perhaps just a shining example of one kind of guy to aspire to. Even as high level a person as he is, he's always trying to self-improve and pare away at his own bullshit.

[–]1aguy015 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

He would, because he has never been a beta. He was a competitive Tae Kwon Do athlete with great genetics and doesn't understand why people would have to go on the internet to learn how to get chicks. Despite the fact his behavior is text book RP he still has a lot of meathead moments.

[–]theozoph5 points6 points7 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it's true of a lot of "Naturals" that they really can't see what the hell is the problem : shouldn't everybody be for equality and shit?

It's the same myopia that beautiful people have when it comes to people : they often think people are nicer than they really are, because everyone acts so nice to them!

So, if a college athlete/comedian who fell into pussy his whole life doesn't get why people would be so aggravated by the whole modern gender discourse, don't hold it against him. He fell into alpha when he was little, he has no frame of reference for what less fortunate men had to go through.

[–]midnightbean0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think people consider that beta's can be raised in alpha environments and alphas raised in beta environments, looking to take back what they've been conditioned against. Food for thought.

[–]AnnFranklyMyDear1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

TRP isn't about getting chicks. How long have you been here?

[–]HobKing0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

From what I've seen of TRP here, it isn't about getting chicks only to the extent that you need to focus on other things in order to get chicks.

[–]f3yleaf0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He started doing Teakwondo because he was being bullied, he has talked about that, But he did become an alpha relatively early.

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[–]f3yleaf-1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Indirectly yes, but I doubt he did as a kid, who knows.

[–]midnightbean-3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He's acting a good deal like a beta here by losing control of his shit.

Listen up. TRP helps men from all varieties work on the many aspects of their personality that might need to be learned or rewired to get what 'we' want out of our lives. Being highly intelligent and aware is smart, but with that you can pick up mannerisms and behaviors that keep you alive but aren't very alpha. Men who lack those characteristics might be tough and unemotional, but they're likely pretty dense in the head too.

[–]sigmayogi1 point 11 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

His stance on marriage is practically identical.

He doesn't seem to care about number of sex partners women have however.

[+]Primemale-6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow a guy put some fat old bitch in her place without being scared...incredible guys.

I get some people need to see this but realise it's pretty fucking normal, a high value man not letting some bitch disrespect him.

[+]romerom-26 points-25 points-24 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

eh I dunno.. I think he might have been a little over the top a bit?

[–]GLOOTS_OF_PEACE-5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

wow this is pathetic...joe lost his temper and was ultra defensive like a little bitch. Sorry but i don't blame the fat lady for laughing at him.

OP i thought you said this was a video of joe standing his ground.

[–]Ketaminewarrior0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Oh look, SRS is visiting again, how cute

[–]GLOOTS_OF_PEACE0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Well dont you agree? Joe was mad and lost his frame

[–]Ketaminewarrior0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Would it have been ideal to deliver all that as Mr cool...maybe, maybe not. He was angry but he didn't lose control when he put that bitch in her place. Better to do that than say nothing and pretend she isn't bothering you. End of the day, he won, she lost

[–]GLOOTS_OF_PEACE0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

'he won she lost' is a big part of why relationships don't work, and why you guys are here lol. Get out of that paradigm. He should have come to a conclusion in which they both left happy and understood (win win). Have you schmucks even read The 7 Habits of Highly Effective people??

[–]Ketaminewarrior0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Seriously? You want to have a little warm and fuzzy moment with some thoroughbred feminist cunt in a nightclub? Ok so Mr effective, lay it all out for us shmucks, how would you have handled if?

[–]GLOOTS_OF_PEACE0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn't have even have talked to her, she's a lost cause to me lol

but if she was someone that i cared about, i would have made sure to understand what her point of view is, and let her know she is understood (you never know, you might learn something you didn't realise before), and then make sure she understands my point of view. You do this and it leaves you both wondering what there was to fight about.

Source: the real world and real people boiii

[–]Ketaminewarrior0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

So basically you're saying you would have ignored her. Because she's "not someone you cared about" right?

So you think Josh Rogan should have "just ignored her" So walk me through how this would have gone.

Somebody's not living in the real world and its not me

[+]iDont_too -23 points-22 points-21 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

American conversation is so dull

[–]TechnoRaptor12 points13 points14 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

what does that even mean? It's a crowd of drunks dealing with a silly feminist. This isn't american conversation. don't pretending these situations are alien to your country.

[–]RedPillProphet0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ughh, they're so fat right? /s

Get the fuck out of here with your unoriginal irrelevant bullshit.

[–]iDont_too -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You would fit in with the cretins in the video.

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