Porn and Masturbation Abstinence

gmolinari · 2011-12-21T16:15:44+00:00

r/nofap is a pretty great community related to exactly this kind of thing.

sillymallard · 2011-12-21T17:10:50+00:00

PORN IS THE SINGLE REASON YOU FIND IT HARD TO TALK TO WOMEN!

No it isn't.

renegon · 2011-12-21T17:49:11+00:00

Currently on day 6 of stopping with fapping and porn. I don't think it's a problem in most cases, but for me it was getting to the point where it wasn't really that exciting, just something I did every night or morning. Wouldn't call it porn addiction, more like porn over exposure and desensitization. If every night I get to look at as much of the most depraved shit imaginable on the internets, during the rest of the day seeing a beautiful girl didn't push my buttons. Now it's starting to more and more.

I'm noticing some of the same positive effects as OP. I think it was a good decision and plan to stick with it.

cryer · 2011-12-21T16:33:50+00:00

You don't think guys masturbated daily before porn? Besides, you seem to define 'porn' only as it exists as internet videos. I can think of erotic situations in my head to get me off from just seeing a woman on the street. However, my own personal shame and anxiety keep me from actually approaching. Porn does not make me not want a real live woman. For some, I think releasing allows you to feel more relaxed rather than ansty and on-edge, which does not help in approaching women.

ehode · 2011-12-21T18:17:39+00:00

Biggest fault I have with porn is the time I am spend each night browsing it. An hour per night adds up. A lot I can get done skipping it and saying "I'll hit ya up tomorrow".

Spend that hour doing something I feel I don't have time for (getting my gym bag ready, packing my lunch, calling random people and breathing into the telephone).

2011-12-21T19:05:39+00:00

Whether or not this is mumbo-jumbo or not, it's worth a discussion and there's nothing to loose in letting the monkey go without being milked for a while! Going a week without leakin' the main drain gives you a 147% boost in testosterone. Think about that for a second. It's the hormone that makes a man a MAN. Just like how the scent of a woman raises a man's testosterone levels, higher testosterone levels in males can have subconsciously effects on women also.

meta_asfuck · 2011-12-21T17:59:33+00:00

You linked to some extremely biased, non-scientific articles my friend. It's similar to me telling you to love jesus and then linking you to ilovejesus.com.

poopdeck · 2011-12-21T16:57:49+00:00

Blowing my load, feel the power of the chode, enriching lives like i'm on beast mode.

ge99 · 2011-12-21T17:03:24+00:00

I'm really glad for you guys, and if it's working for you the way you say it does then please never watch porn again!

Myself, I once went a month or two without watching porn, and I really noticed no difference, positive or negative, at all, what DID give me a positive change was spending 5 to 12 hours a week in field this summer lol.

But I do maintain that the beliefs people have about porn and masturbation are unhealthy; most people view masturbation as some loser thing for people that don't have girlfriends (which is actually statistically incorrect), and so of course masturbation is a negative influence on their life.

I'm a big fan of the works of Mantak Chia and his methods of cultivating sexual energy, it's very new age, but it changed the way I felt (literally) about masturbation

FitCashFocus · 2011-12-21T19:41:47+00:00

Yes, great post.

As a commited subscriber to r/nofap and r/pornfree I've noticed HUGE psychological and physical benefits to not masterbuating and not watching porn.

Psychologically I'm now beginning to see women more as "actual people" instead of sexual objects that satisfy our sexual desires. This helps me appreciate them and get way more intimate with them on a deeper level. My masculinity has matured dramatically. I feel like I have this grounding force in reality that instantly attracts and forms the chaotic irrationality of women (much like moths to a flame). By not masturbating you convert all that sexual energy inside into creative/BADASSMF energies that sort of vibe out and are EXTREMELY appearent to women. Especially the really hot girls that are completely in touch with their feminine side. When two energies like that meet (think fire&water) it becomes hot steamy bliss.

Phsyically I have way more energy to lift weights and run. I'm also WAY more productive. This week alone I learned php/html/css and began building a site, journaled everyday, did PC exercises, meditated, traded the stock market, worked out everday, spent time with family and triends, and had tons of fun doing it all. This energy also comes out in the bedroom. I'll last a long time and make her come first, which is an amazing feeling.

I'm 20yrs old and I've been jacking off since 14, feeling shallow and not the core man I truely am. The benefits are astounding. I'm currently doing a 90day reset on porn and masturbation. I'm on day 8 right now and feeling all this. Do it with an open mind, trust me.

Kozbot · 2011-12-21T17:21:20+00:00

I tried stopping for like 5 days awhile ago, I had withdrawals like a coke addict. Literally cravings and a complete inability to sleep

Philomagic · 2011-12-21T17:14:05+00:00

PORN IS THE SINGLE REASON YOU FIND IT HARD TO TALK TO WOMEN!

Not true. I still don't approach women and I don't watch porn and have never jacked off.

Big_Timber · 2011-12-21T16:22:56+00:00

Are there any articles specifically in the the seduction community about this?

I've been working in this as well, but it takes a variety of factors. A special lady friend, for instance, makes it much easier. I wish they would teach this in grade 8 though, kids these days have no idea and and are growing up in a fantasy world.

GSpotAssassin · 2011-12-21T19:07:55+00:00

I have a girlfriend and am (more or less, long story) happily in a relationship, and I still masturbate to porn at times, so clearly it's probably only destructive if you do it too much with too much visually intense porn. Maybe switch it up to fantasy or porn fiction or something.

Masturbation on SOME regular basis is a healthy thing, though (prostate cancer etc.)

By the way I'm not disagreeing with the YBOP site. The answer to "masturbating every day ruins my mojo" is not necessarily "STOP MASTURBATING EVER!" It might be "Just fucking moderate it, dude."

/master of my domain

answerorreply · 2011-12-21T20:34:33+00:00

the number one thing that improves my game is abstaining from pmo. holy shit, when i feel all that sexual energy built up, it's so easy to approach, make eye contact, etc. Maybe abstaining doesn't work for everyone but if totally works for some of us.

markrulesallnow · 2011-12-21T20:57:11+00:00

I agree. Trying to do nofap and quit porn definitely helped my game.

2011-12-23T09:38:22+00:00

I don't need stupid fucking scientific studies that may or may not be true to know that I'm going to go talk to girls more when the only way I allow myself to orgasm is by someone else's actions.

Nofap/noporn works for me. It may not work for your stupid PUA friends, but I don't give a fuck about your stupid fucking PUA friends.

luciiz · 2011-12-21T17:54:25+00:00

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puaCurveBall · 2011-12-21T16:43:16+00:00

This is bulllshit. Practically every successful PUA I've talked to watches porn and jerks off as much as they want.

2011-12-21T19:44:26+00:00

I regularly go a week or two without masturbating and have never noticed a difference in my desire to approach women....

Steviekhifu · 2011-12-21T20:19:17+00:00

pron does overstimulate your brain till the only thing that can get you hard is watching tentacle gag scat porn. be weary.

Whisper · 2011-12-22T01:16:29+00:00

Check your fucking sources:

Marnia Robinson is a former corporate attorney with degrees from Brown and Yale who writes books about the unwelcome effects of evolutionary biology on intimate relationships and the striking parallels between recent scientific discoveries and traditional sacred-sex texts. Her cross-disciplinary perspective incorporates the insights of psychologists, psychiatrists, neuroscientists, evolutionary biologists, anthropologists and even ancient sages. With her husband Gary Wilson, who taught anatomy and physiology for years and is a neuroscience enthusiast, she writes articles for publications as diverse as The Evolutionary Review and the award-winning anthology Toward 2012: Perspectives on the Next Age. With Gary's help, she also blogs on "The Huffington Post" and "The Good Men Project." Cupid is available on Kindle and has been published in German.

The Huffington Post? The Good Men Project?

You're posting propaganda from a feminist talking head.

mcnuggetrage · 2011-12-22T02:54:36+00:00

If anyone here is thinking about kicking porn you might wanna go to /r/nofap I found it about 20 minutes ago which is interesting that I stumble on this post here...

lolyourdumb · 2011-12-22T03:00:33+00:00

It's funny I was just thinking about this.

I stopped watching porn this year and do a no fap challenge anytime I hit a dry spell. This has improved things drastically for me.

I know this is just anecdotal evidence, but I become less complacent with women and notice a huge confidence spike when I hit the 2 week mark.

kumbaja · 2011-12-22T22:49:12+00:00

I'll start avoiding porn... tomorrow...

2011-12-21T16:13:07+00:00

Yeah I've been trying to cut down on porn. And without porn I only fap every few days instead of everyday. I've cut down porn a lot but I think I need to do one of those brain resets and go 3 months with porn.

reddit4getit · 2011-12-21T18:30:50+00:00

It's not pornography, its a lack of a proper, comprehensive sex education. A lack of or inefficient communication between adults and their own children. I do agree that pornography can give teens and adolescents a skewed view on sex and the world, but to blame it as the sole problem for not talking to women?

I loved watching porn as a young guy but I still made it a priority to talk to a girl and make her mine. Porn let me explore myself, prepare me for when I finally did have sex. Hell, I thank the pornography for giving me some lessons in fucking!

Critcho · 2011-12-21T19:55:40+00:00

It is medically proven that:

fapping increases the control you have over ejaculation, which makes you last longer, and decreases chance of premature ejaculation
Decreases chance of prostate cancer (ie. the prostate is emptied more often, and makes the cancer cells not being able to grow fast enough for it to "stick")
decreases chance of flacidness
makes the penis more healthy, as the spounge elements in the penis gets more training. Ie. Stronger hard-on.

All in all. Your post is bullshit christian propaganda. I hope you realise that.

michandwich · 2011-12-21T15:43:45+00:00

I applaud you, thank you for this. I know someone who can really benefit from this.

TofuTofu · 2011-12-21T18:40:57+00:00

Its a placebo effect (like using canned openers) but if it works, go for it.

2011-12-21T19:04:32+00:00

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Rail606 · 2011-12-21T19:19:22+00:00

But real pussy is so much better then porn, I guess if you have never had any it could be an obstacle. And I am sure it helps you want to approach more women because you haven't seen someone naked besides your self in however long. But does it help you with actually talking to them? Probably from more approaches attempted per night out. However i don't know, never gone more then 3 weeks lol.

BigBearSac · 2011-12-21T21:36:42+00:00

HARD MODE: Watching porn jerking off but then stopping.

I don't fuck around.

p.s. Testosterone peaks at 7 days without ejaculation, then begins declining. source: (somewhere)

2011-12-21T22:16:41+00:00

The only problem with porn is that wanking lowers your T levels, and also because you're expecting girls to be super hot and ready to fuck all the time, which isn't reality.

People should cut back, but it isn't the end of the world. Being high all the time is way worse than looking at lots of porn when it comes to sarging, IMO.

NukemJim · 2011-12-21T23:00:34+00:00

"PORN IS THE SINGLE REASON YOU FIND IT HARD TO TALK TO WOMEN!"

Maybe for some people, others have always hard to talk to women even before I was able to get porn (in preinternet days porn was not available till you hit 18). So sorry but that may be some peoples problem but not everyones.

2011-12-21T23:03:15+00:00

jerking off for 20 minutes every 1-2 days is not harmful. porn is harmful, because it associates certain unrealistic stimuli with arousal, but if your game is that bad when you watch porn i think you have some other issues to work out.

heckz · 2011-12-22T00:46:55+00:00

I agree about poem but not masturbation because it's like saying hey guys sex makes you bad at seduction never F-close!

CanUSayHigh · 2011-12-22T01:23:44+00:00

Porn Rules!!!!

Sinnermario · 2011-12-23T00:54:44+00:00

Very good post ! , i came here to continue reading the comments thinking that they will be coming from reasonable smart redditors but all i saw is fools that believe whatever the media gives them for proofs like "faping decreases the chances of prostate cancer" and "gives you control over ejaculation" , those statements are COMPLETE BULLSHIT and has nothing to do with science . but unfortunately it's always been like that and the majority of people will believe whatever they want to believe just so they don 't have to change .

2011-12-21T17:51:37+00:00

When a person cuts off the their "outlet" (ie. porn/fapping) then I would assume there is a build up. Now if said person is use to this release that is now absent then they will go to find a new outlet. So I'm guessing this means going after women more aggressively than before. I just can't see this as a good thing. I'm just going off the top of my brain so don't ask me for links.

Fapping and porn have absolutly nothing to do with a man and his ability to get with women. It is all about the individual. The reason YOU probably got results cause you actually went OUT into the field. Being stuck in your room all day fapping to porn will do nothing for your sex life. Stop porn? Anything that you allow to keep you out of public will kill your chances at getting any ass.

I will admit that my views of females might be a littled skewed from watching porn but I know the difference. My point is you can be a casanova alpha male that gets mad pussy and also has 1tb external full of porn. Its all about the individual and not their vices.

tl;dr

I think its okay to fap and watch porn because FUCK YOU THATS WHY!

Speedtarzanjujitsu · 2011-12-21T16:43:42+00:00

I'm trying this right now. I have been free since about a week ago. I'm continuing to have sex, but I'm abstaining from porn and masturbation

2011-12-21T20:33:05+00:00

Annnnd now it's time to unsubscribe

tyrannosaurus_dude · 2011-12-22T18:08:11+00:00

Yet another "Magic Pill" post. Bullshit.

This shit isn't holding you back unless it is. I know that sounds dumb, but seriously - everyone here who isn't a master PUA (and even some of those guys) have some issue holding them back. Fear of rejection, problems being comfortable sexually, being out of shape, etc.

And everyone's gotta post their "Magic Pill" about how they wiped away their big problem and now everything is peachy keen. In most cases...guess what? It isn't. You worked on one area of your life but there's still a lot of work to do on others. Feel good about yourself but don't think you've found the key to life for every fucking person. There's a larger picture here.

IMO it's pretty fucking obvious that being addicted to porn will have a negative effect on your sex life. But watching and enjoying porn like a normal fucking human being? Whatever. I watch porn, probably every couple of days or so, and still manage to have great sex with women.

This is coming from someone who's tried abstaining from porn/masturbation for a long ass time as well. I did not really find it different. Masturbating every day is too much for me, and I feel sluggish, but past that, meh. Plus, I have to ask myself: why the fuck do I have time for masturbating every day when I should be out chatting up women instead?

handoverthebanana · 2011-12-21T18:05:50+00:00

There are so many reasons to stop watching porn. It degrades women by leading us to believe they're objects to be judged by their looks and body, not actual human beings with feelings and emotions. Watching too much porn leads to a lousy sex life too. Do you really think girls enjoy taking it up the ass and taking ejaculations to the face? You won't ever get off if you walk into the bedroom believing porn is an accurate representation of real life.

productionx · 2011-12-21T18:26:56+00:00

This is half bullshit and half true...

However, I'd like to say, I am in a LTR. Watch porn constantly, have no issues with sex, and am very manly.

What now?

2011-12-21T19:21:50+00:00

This might apply to you, quite sadly...BUT, not to everybody.

I'm sorry you couldn't handle pornography and talking to women in conjunction with one another.

delinquentme · 2011-12-21T19:27:46+00:00

look at the source here man.. you're an idiot.

not to mention there are specific ties between libido and the "use it or lose it"

but hey if the placebo works for you grats!

2011-12-21T21:29:43+00:00

Not masturbating/watching porn can help but I have plenty of natural friends who score with chicks that beat it off a few times a week and watch porn. Just don't overdo it.

synapticimpact · 2011-12-22T00:59:47+00:00

When I rub one out tonight, it'll be for you, luciiz. Think of it like a prayer. Or a candle light vigil. Whatever.

2011-12-22T13:49:03+00:00

i wouldn't go so long without masturbation man, 60-90 days is not healthy, masturbation helps regulate hormone levels. its recommended once a week. you penis has a use it or lose it policy.

balr · 2011-12-21T20:32:02+00:00

I watch / read porn since I'm a teenager, and I have absolutely no problem with talking to girls.

Saying porn is a drug is real bullshit. You have nothing to back it either (that website you linked to is bogus). You sound like a religious extremist. Porn doesn't alter perception of reality; your brain doesn't "think" he's getting that many pussies to fuck. Even a mentally challenged person doesn't. Stop talking out of your ass and read a real psychology book if you're into thinking straight, for fuck sake.

Title	Porn and Masturbation Abstinence
Author	luciiz
Upvotes	68
Comments	166
Date	December 21, 2011 3:34 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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