So are feminists actually advocating that they can have affairs with married men, with no accountability?

LettuceBeGrateful · 2022-06-30T02:27:16+00:00

I'd attribute it more to general cultural decline. I knew a guy who was sleeping with a married woman, and people excused it the same way. "It's not his marriage, so it's not his problem." It was disgusting.

Angryasfk · 2022-06-30T07:01:10+00:00

Why not? Our first female Prime Minister had at least two affairs with married men, and had the hide to present herself as the “wronged woman” and was backed up by feminists who insisted that any opposition to her and her actions was due to “misogyny”. So I think this is really how feminists must think. Not one feminist ever criticised Gillard.

Darthwxman · 2022-06-30T12:46:53+00:00

Not that surprising. Many feminists think women should never be sent to prison. Even for murder.

Huge_Faithlessness35 · 2022-06-30T01:19:53+00:00

Don’t argue with delusional western women. Theres a reason over 50% of women are single by the age 30 and it’s going up each year,

DiversityIsDivisive · 2022-06-30T03:25:54+00:00

There is a current thing on Twitter

After running several tests I've found the cause of the pain: you're going on Twitter. In my grandparent's day they called your ailment "barn headache". The cause of the pain was from banging your head against the barn door. The way to stop the pain in your head is to stop banging it against the barn door

rooiraaf · 2022-06-30T06:51:20+00:00

No accountability and also lack of morals.

It is selfish to get involved with someone if you know they're married. And it is selfish if you're married and get involved with someone else.

nocivo · 2022-06-30T10:35:38+00:00

I blame both. They are both morally wrong.

parahacker · 2022-06-30T11:17:46+00:00

I have knowingly fucked married women.

And I was a shitbird for doing it. I stopped doing it, and I admit my own culpability.

Yeah, those women were breaking their own vows, and yah, I hadn't made any such vows. Didn't matter. It's still problematic, even if you aren't 'officially' in the wrong.

Now, I've also had sex with women who lied about being married. I ain't taking any credit for that bullshit. But those few times I went in eyes open? Yeah, never again. Because I didn't want to ever be the other man in that situation, because a lot of the behaviors I saw from those cheating wives offended me, because it's just swimming in shit and you're going to end up with shit on you.

But the same goes for cheating with a married man. Point your feminists to this comment if they remain confused about the topic. They are culpable too. Not as much as the cheating married person, sure; but if nothing else, they're responsible for having their own standards of decency, and not having that lowers your own QOL, not to mention the people around you.

Lionheart27778 · 2022-06-30T14:31:30+00:00

Generally speaking if a married woman has an affair with another man.....it's the man's fault.

If a married man has an affair with another woman..... it's the man's fault.

I'm in a unique position.

As my first wife had a affair.....which apparently was both MY fault for "not being a good enough husband" And the other guys fault for "leading her astray".

I have also slept with a few married women. The majority of the time they instigated the sex/affair....I was just chatting to them on social media.

When I mention it to people....I am often made out to be an arsehole for "leading them astray"....Even though they were the instigators. The womans guilt is almost never brought into it.

A few crocodile tears and some fake regret....and the fact that she sent me unsolicited nudes out of nowhere after a few days of random casual chat is all forgotten.

The fact that she lied about sleeping over at a friend's house after a "girls night".....when in reality she was getting railed all night , is all forgiven.

She "is sorry" ....so it becomes the man's fault...for "leading her astray....or the husbands fault for not "treating her better".

These experiences have led me to believe that lots of women will do whatever they can to escape accountability at all costs. It doesn't matter who was right or wrong.....It's always seen as the man's fault

RandomofEmbers · 2022-06-30T08:20:21+00:00

Eww. Cheating in marriage?

I think both persons involved are equally shitty. One for trying to break family. Other for infidelity.

Marriage is a big deal. If you are not shure, you are okay with staying with the same person, potentially, for life, than you do not marry. That is simple.

mensmod · 2022-06-30T10:35:04+00:00

Was this a feminist or a woman?

Not all women are feminist.

DouglasMilnes · 2022-06-30T12:05:31+00:00

The understanding is that one person in this affair has made a commitment to another person and isn’t honouring it. In this case, the woman has made absolutely no commitment to the other woman. So in that sense, only one person is having an affair and it’s the married man.

I’m not saying that the woman is ethically sound if she knew he was married but again, she’s made a commitment to nobody. If my husband had an affair, I would be mainly angry at him.

bagman42069 · 2022-06-30T10:51:55+00:00

Oh there is a term for people like that, they are called home wreckers.

aerial_coitus · 2022-06-30T04:42:38+00:00

Yes. Your question answers itself.

Vanriel · 2022-06-30T11:01:25+00:00

Way I look at it, takes two to tango. If she knew he was married then that makes her just as guilty as him.

AnOddTree · 2022-06-30T12:12:28+00:00

Remember that social media algorythems are going to show you the most controversial things that will get a reaction put of you. I haven't seen any feminists advocating for this sort of stuff. Sounds like a case of the loud minority.

TAPriceCTR · 2022-06-30T12:15:52+00:00

The (knowing) side action is trashy, but they're not an oath breaker. An unfaithful spouse is always worse than the so called home wrecker because the unfaithful spouse is the actual home wrecker.

Granted these feminists are wrong for thinking the side action bears no blame, but it's equally wrong to assign the side action the lions share of the blame.

2022-06-30T10:53:52+00:00

Near as I can tell that's what modern feminism is about. Remove female accountability or responsibility. For anything and everything.

happyness423 · 2022-06-30T11:48:04+00:00

The absolute last thing a feminist will ever concede is personal responsibility.

Swingstar731 · 2022-06-30T04:44:26+00:00

So much this

jmcsquared · 2022-06-30T12:28:53+00:00

So let me get this straight. If you are not married, you can fuck all the married people you want to, and NONE of it is your fault, because you weren't married?

I mean, if you didn't know someone you slept with was married, then I suppose you can't be held accountable for that. Especially if it's being purposefully hidden, you can't really be guilty of something that you have zero awareness of. That's not how moral guilt works.

That's like a waiter handing out dishes for a dinner that he is unaware have been laced with poison by the chef. Is the waiter equally guilty of plotting murders here? I think not.

That being said, that situation is certainly not the same as doing it with a married person and knowing that they're married. Though, I'd still take those on a case-by-case basis.

RedcloudGeorge · 2022-06-30T13:23:02+00:00

Rampant hypocrisy. But the attacks on anyone who dares to point it out are just part of the whole illusion-based hegemony. They figure, yell loud enough and no one will realize their argument doesn't hold up to logic. Sadly, tons of people buy into the propaganda. Just know that there are those of us who see it for what it is.

HeligKo · 2022-06-30T15:10:24+00:00

This has always been the case to a lesser degree. She is morally and ethically wrong in her actions, because her actions damage others. His is worse though, because he is damaging people he pledged to protect and is responsible for. The mistress over time has received less social pressure to not be a mistress, so this is the logical conclusion. The part to me that is revolting is getting pregnant essentially on purpose and terminating the pregnancy to get back at a political adversary.

museumsplendor · 2022-06-30T16:42:12+00:00

I live in Utah and they put one married man in jail!!! THE cops caught him in a hotel with a woman he was not married to.

maryhartman000 · 2022-06-30T19:44:06+00:00

NOBODY SHOULD BE DATING A FUCKING MARRED MAN (FEMALE HERE). That's the lowest of low. Both parties should be utterly ashamed. Unless there is an ongoing divorce or separation where they no longer lives together, it's off limits and awful. I'm a feminist. Where the hell did you get the idea that feminists fuck married men. Ewwwww.

-Ivar-TheBoneless · 2022-06-30T08:08:28+00:00

Remember no accountability for women.

Iceman_Hottie · 2022-06-30T07:04:24+00:00

Feminism is based on that double standard. It's a key feature of the logical framework that leads to feminism.

Try looking up and writing down what is a base assumption and what are feminism's base assumptions.

Thus far, I tracked it down to Rousseau, the main features of whose philosophy were narrative over fact and whatever benefits me now is a good thing (including violence, betrayal, disregarding equality under the law, etc.). From Rousseau it was put into practice by the left-wing of the French revolution (a key feature unifying left-wing philosophy) and down the road ended up in feminism.

Grammar-Notsee_ · 2022-06-30T08:15:25+00:00

Is there NO personal accountability anymore!?

Pretty much.

QuestionableParadigm · 2022-06-30T13:34:49+00:00

no they are not

also women ≠ feminist

why do you guys use those terms interchangeably

2022-06-30T16:21:05+00:00

Is there NO personal accountability anymore!?

One of the tops posts in TwoX right now is someone complaining about men saying "keep your legs closed if you don't wanna get pregnant"... this is on a sub that searching "get a vasectomy" gives countless results including a shit load saying men should get a vasectomy, and withholding sex until a man gets one.

So no, these people have absolutely zero accountability. So little it's rather impressive to see so many people so fucking oblivious to their actions. It would be comical if not so fucking damaging to society and the relationship between men and women.

thinkb4youspeak · 2022-06-30T07:36:06+00:00

As a western dude, I'll do you one worse. I justified sleeping with married or committed women from 2009 till 2019 because it was the only way I felt safe in a relationship. They couldn't get mad and lie about me or try to destroy my life without exposing their own misdeeds. Now I just don't date which is fine because I'm older and have a shit load of video game's on Xbox. Loneliness is an easier thing to deal with for me because it comes and goes but a relationship is constant fear and anxiety and disappointment.

I'm not saying it a good move, it was a selfish survival move because I wanted to be with someone and show them love and compassion and have it be shown to me. It actually lead to a lot of sadness and even the best relationships were still never more than half full.

Some of you might say "well you just haven't met the right one".

Yeah, thanks, that's what I just said.

People will always find justification for a thing regardless of gender. It's not just the ladies and it definitely isn't all the ladies.

needalife94 · 2022-06-30T03:27:17+00:00

I don't think the feminists are advocating for it. Men do the exact same thing. And some won't take accountability. Saying shit like "not my relationship not my problem".

offtable · 2022-06-30T06:31:44+00:00

What I like the most is that they think of abortions As a contraception method, yet they cry that It is an issue of healthcare.

WhereProgressIsMade · 2022-06-30T07:54:02+00:00

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TheMorningJoe · 2022-06-30T05:53:35+00:00

Yup but remember, only women can do it. /s

needalife94 · 2022-06-30T03:01:56+00:00

I would also put the blame on the married one (man or woman). They are the ones that made their vows. Other people can do whatever they want.

Kazaklyzm · 2022-07-01T04:54:20+00:00

Not this feminist. I want equal rights both ways, not revenge.

Virtual-Reporter2173 · 2022-06-30T03:18:31+00:00

Zero it’s called cognitive dissonance

bhayes55 · 2022-06-30T15:27:01+00:00

Feminist meet Male Chauvinist. A woman who sleeps with a married man is a whore, it didn't belong to her and she doesn't have the right to trample over another woman's sacraments. Feminism is just a fad, women are not equal to Men. Feminism is just cover for Women who hate Men. The Married Man needs to answer to the wife. and that's why they get nailed in court. They both are in Jeopardy. We all have to account on Judgement Day. Bring it on Feminist's

BoogersAndSugar · 2022-06-30T17:09:46+00:00

The feminists want to legalize polygamy. And that would be a BIG mistake! We have a problem with too many leftover males as it is, where the bottom 20% of guys struggle to the point that they literally can't even attract anyone at all! Legalizing polygamy would put HALF of men into that situation, which would utterly devastate the economy.

ggleblanc2 · 2022-06-30T03:55:53+00:00

I guess I'm missing the point, but single guys have affairs with married women too.

It's not up to other people to maintain your fidelity.

Why do you expect that any person who won't abstain from sex outside of marriage will be concerned about someone else's marriage vows?

Astelos · 2022-06-30T16:12:25+00:00

Not yall twisting shit 😭 Why the fuck would feminism advocate cheating?

tragedyfish · 2022-06-30T23:09:44+00:00

Sure, knowingly sleeping with someone who is married makes you an asshole. But that's it. You can't violate a contract that you didn't sign. Marriage is a contract between two people. The only people who can violate it are the two people who signed the contract.

So yes. --> If you are not married, you can fuck all the married people you want to, and NONE of it is your fault, because you weren't married? This is correct. Fidelity is the responsibility of the person in the relationship, not the person they cheated with.

y2kjanelle · 2022-06-30T03:59:57+00:00

There is this current trend where presidents go around sleeping with random hot women they meet. So that's the new deal?

Some men jump down my throat..."It's not his fault his wife doesn't satisfy him!! Men are biologically wired to cheat and cannot deny their urges. They just can't control themselves!"

So let me get this straight. If you're married and a man, it's okay to cheat because you have more testosterone?? The affair has to be blamed on the affair partner even though the cheater is the one who said vows, or promised exclusivity, potentially exposed their partner to STDs, violated their boundaries, went behind their back, and lied to their face?

Is there NO personal accountability anymore??

I'm sorry but this post is not related to men's rights, is an attempt to demonize feminists (which is why you only mentioned them and didn't even condemn conservative men out of all people who violated their own marriages), and has the most obvious answer.

There would never be any affair partners if cheaters didn't step out of their marriages. And even if an affair partner says no, the cheater will just find someone who says yes. Because the AP isn't responsible for the loyalty in a marriage. The cheater will just lie instead and not tell the person they are married.

xcheshirecatxx · 2022-06-30T04:08:01+00:00

Well they are right. Bear with me though:

It's the married person who cheat. If they are able to do so, they are already bad, even if no one helps them

Thing is, I'll never hate myself enough to be with a pos who cheats

Fearless-File-3625 · 2022-06-30T02:41:14+00:00

Both are morally bankrupt but if I had to blame someone I would blame the man.

somirion · 2022-06-30T08:13:44+00:00

Who is cheating? Someone with wife, or someone without anyone?

They can do whatever they want. They are not cheating. But it would be nice if they told conservatives who are cheating. 1. Because they are cheating. 2. Because they are conservatives and they are cheating. So people and God should know about it.

Why you think that someone whos cheating is less guilty of it that person with whom he is cheating with?

If i screw some girl that have husband is it i who cheated? Did i forced her to do it? Im not responsible for your wife being A slut.

pappo4ever · 2022-06-30T16:28:45+00:00

They have an objective and will twist the truth to achieve it. You arguing with them will become just a stone for them to step one and achieve their political objectives.

pnoecker · 2022-06-30T16:51:13+00:00

Just start wearing a ring, and treat every girl like they're a home wrecker. They are 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤣🤣

slowlylosingit0416 · 2022-06-30T17:27:58+00:00

She’s not great, but she didn’t say any vows and she isn’t lying to her family and spouse.

penis_fly_trapp · 2022-07-17T14:59:23+00:00

It takes two to tango my dear and hey if you live in a prolife state and you think your husband may have a love child then be prepared to have some money from your household to go to his mistress for 18 years (also I haven't seen anyone actually see anyone say that but that's the reality now if another woman outside the marriage gets knocked up :))

Title	So are feminists actually advocating that they can have affairs with married men, with no accountability?
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Date	June 30, 2022 1:19 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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