Feminism is losing.

ForcibleJoy · 2022-08-17T22:17:30+00:00

Feminists are getting too comfortable and are revealing their true nature.

63daddy · 2022-08-17T23:15:48+00:00

It’s great Depp successfully sued, but he’s a very rare exception. The vast majority of men don’t have the money to sue.

Look back through posts from just the past few days and you’ll find recent examples of anti-male policies being implemented. Wokeness still rules and non woke facts are still being censored as a strongly as ever.

I wish we could say feminism is falling and men are getting more equal rights, but I don’t think that’s overall true.

KazukiYahashi · 2022-08-17T21:58:36+00:00

It will be interesting to see how everything unfolds…

PactScharp · 2022-08-18T00:40:09+00:00

I thought the whole Depp debacle changed a lot of ppl's minds... but seeing just how much blind support Amber fucking Turd is still getting (EXCLUSIVELY from feminists) is insanely depressing. And these types of "pro AH/anti JD" posts are getting millions of likes/shares on social media. It genuinely seems like feminism has doubled down on "female victimhood" narrative since JD. The vast majority of feminists are disgusted by JD, let alone anyone who dared support him. And it's not just stupid college hippie feminists on Twitter. It's major feminist organizations (MeToo publicly denounced JD & supported AH for YEARS... The Women's March organization also publicly supported AH... Basically any feminist with power/platform was pro-AH & against JD).

In the beginning, I thought JD had around 95% support... but honestly, after having seen the reactions on social media, particularly by women, I'd say it's about 60/40 in favor of JD. It's maddening tbh.

That all being said, while it's depressing to see how feminists have doubled down... at the same time, they have all but exposed themselves as rampant man-haters & they can never go back. There is no question, if the genders were flipped, JD would already be in jail & feminists all over the world would see him as an absolute monster. They have lost the right of claiming that feminists care about male victims & are the only ones fighting for abused men (literally has never happened in the history of mankind). They had the PERFECT opportunity to prove that they cared about men too with JD, yet all they could do in response is denounce JD & hail AH as an "imperfect victim" (pathetic).

TheSnesLord · 2022-08-18T01:16:33+00:00

Feiminism is not losing at all, in fact it's getting stronger as each month passes.

If Feminism really was losing then you would see:

- the sexist pro-woman policies and laws be reversed (Affirmative Action, Duluth Model, etc.)

- the feminist institutions and organizations burning to the ground

- the mainstream media and news media stop peddling feminism

- the mainstream media and news media attack feminism (oh how I wish this)

- companies and businesses stop the feminist horse s**t and stop caving in to feminist whining

- men being allowed to talk about and judge women on their appearances (currently something that only women are allowed to do to men)

- misandrist and man-hating TV shows like The Real and Loose Women get canned

- schools, colleges and universities stop teaching and peddling the feminist gender studies (basically misandry) crap

etc.

aerial_coitus · 2022-08-17T23:52:31+00:00

I wish you were right.

biscuitheque · 2022-08-17T23:45:17+00:00

I have certainly noticed a recent trend of channels (Pearly Things, Femsapien, The Transformed Wife etc) promoting traditional values and relationships as an antidote to feminism. These three are all hosted by females, The Transformed Wife's strongest statement 'men want debt-free virgins without tattoos' pissed off a lot of feminists. Kevin Samuels did a lot of deep work to try to repair relationships between men and women. It is fractured on both sides.

Anyhow, I think it's interesting some women are turning their back on feminism - many of them know it's flawed and become a monster. Women need to start doing the work if they don't wish to die alone; give up this strong, independent 'boss bitch' BS and relearn how to be feminine. Plus, start being realistic. You can't chase your career and want kids later in life - the wall is undefeated. I strongly believe modern women have lost touch with their authentic feminine spirit and submission - submission has negative connotations to them, they associate it with oppression.

Let's just see if they improve. Camille Paglia said "stop blaming men", it's that simple.

solar-garlic1776 · 2022-08-18T02:21:32+00:00

They still have a death grip on the schools They are getting to them younger and younger

Forcetobereckonedwit · 2022-08-18T00:40:46+00:00

Yes it is and will continue to do so, BUT, it's losing ground at about .001% a day.

Don't hold your breath.

the-lone-squid · 2022-08-18T03:44:59+00:00

Feminism already won decades ago.

Also, use paragraphs

eddboat112 · 2022-08-18T12:46:10+00:00

RvW was a win for the people. Because now the people get to decide if its legal or not, not some central government. Eberyone should be happy that big government lost a bit of its power.

DavidByron2 · 2022-08-18T00:26:13+00:00

Could be

https://time.com/6156537/south-korea-president-yoon-suk-yeol-sexism/

valspare · 2022-08-18T03:20:52+00:00

Let the chikdless, man-hating modern western femanists, reformed or not, die chidless and/or alone.

There are far to many available women, from other cultures/countries who would make great mothers/wives that don't believe in that feminist crap.

Plus if you're from a country better off then theirs, you are already far more desirable to them.

Then sit back, and watch/read the 'woes me', 'where are all the eligable men', 'men are pigs because they won't date me' crap.

I am enjoying watching the implosion.

devilsadvocate8282 · 2022-08-18T01:36:01+00:00

Correct. Never be angry with women. We are strong.

Exciting_Bluebird_53 · 2022-08-18T06:10:24+00:00

Actually this scares me. When a movement like that falls, it seldom falls quietly.

kieranbrownlee · 2022-08-18T13:35:42+00:00

I saw yesterday on the twoXXchromosome sub about that article that was published and they spun it and made it say “men are increasingly gettin more and more lonely” and if you go into the article that the girl literally linked in her post it talks about it; the reason for it is the incredibly high standards of women 😂 I wonder if they even do research before they just say and post things.

august08102022 · 2022-08-18T16:09:40+00:00

Feminism is only losing because it's eating itself and imploding to T ideology. Old, conservative, white men were never feminist's greatest threat, but instead it was the monster they created with male feminists becoming incels becoming T. That's why I consider feminists "Dr. Frankenstein" and what's happening on Twitter is the "monster" they lost control of.

Look at that 80 year old woman who got banned from a YMCA because she told a guy to get out of the locker room. Super old school feminist, if you listen to her. Doesn't give a shit about pronouns, just private spaces for women. And now the Y staff is using Twitter words like "permanently suspended" and trying to fabricate controversy with her. These were once her people and now they've turned on her.

As Emperor Palpatine once said, "Ironic."

mechajutaro · 2022-08-18T01:12:52+00:00

Feminism will almost certainly cease to be front and center in the headlines at some point in the future. Sadly, they're not likely going away anytime soon. Waiting for this to happen before we begin to take sociopolitical action out on the ground in regards to things we claim to care about(agitating for shared parenting legislation, an end to a war on drugs which overwhelmingly locks up men, and increased access to vocational training)is a recipe for us continuing to not see much progress

Bound-Submissive · 2022-08-18T06:25:25+00:00

I am grateful that this poison of feminism finally started to slowly get neutralized. I knew that all hope is not lost. I was praying to God to bless Men's rights. I saw girls in insta, reddit and YouTube either getting out of the trap of f-cancer, but also others who become more bitter. I see pretty often online guys who are gentlemen but are antisimps and with attitude indicating that they won't put up with petty bullshit. I am also in relationship with such man, and I thank the fate every day for that and that I subscribed to this incredible sub. I pretty rarely see simps online and real life. I think that is the prognosis for the future. More ladies, less bitter feminists. More firm gents, less simps and male feminists.

I really wish the world to become a better and a bit more bearable place, with reduced bullshit and suffering. Humanity doesn't need such indoctrination nightmares like f-virus.

All Hail Justice and Antifeminism

AnFGhoster · 2022-08-18T06:11:21+00:00

Feminism isn't losing. It's an ingrained institution in our society. It has power codified into law, it has sweeping influence in other institutions like education and law, and it's got the backing of all establishment politics and money. It's a useful tool for them to use to keep people divided so it's not going away until it either loses that usefulness or we tear down the systems that enable it. Both are rather unlikely right now. They look like nutcases to you or I and they've lost standing with some average people but their influence and institutional power remains. The powerful don't have to care what the masses want.

Qantourisc · 2022-08-18T07:15:24+00:00

"And then Roe v Wade, the crowned jewel of feminism, gets overturned. By several women on the supreme court none the less"

That ruling was never about abortion rights, but it affected abortion rights.

The ruling was: we cannot rule over abortion rights on a country level.

The real problem here is: nobody made a law, and used a court case result as a substitute for a law.

Arrathall · 2022-08-18T07:57:48+00:00

Don't be fooled.

This will not benefit men at all.

Women got their privileges, and there was a good chance to give men more

This is a start of a cascade to reduce everyone's rights. It will hit us. The anti men processes have not stopped, but this will accelerate them as both men and women would start voting over petty shit that will leave us worse and worse.

It's going to get worse... And even if women are included in the worse scenario... It is not a consolation

capitanMorgan89 · 2022-08-18T10:13:29+00:00

Amen 🙏🏽

SweatyMcMuffin · 2022-08-18T10:42:07+00:00

Can anybody link me the dating article please? Would like to read it

TurbulentFlow7145 · 2022-08-18T12:15:47+00:00

For all those who point to all the discriminations men continue to face as a rebuttal to OP's post, do you really expect for all of the disadvantages and discriminatory polices to be challenged and addressed at once?

That isn't how these cultural shifts work. They don't happen overnight. The point here is that we are seeing positive changes, albeit minimally, happening at the peak of this feminist frenzy, which is a very good sign.

Henry_Blair · 2022-08-18T12:54:50+00:00

Thank you for that. I needed that.

Henry_Blair · 2022-08-18T12:58:26+00:00

https://www.quora.com/Why-dont-guys-pursue-women-anymore

NOTcreative- · 2022-08-18T14:31:44+00:00

I would disagree. I think these things are going to further radicalize the feminist movement and so long as they have the media on their side, it will continue and possibly even get worse. My daughter is 12 and is a self described “feminazi”. And if you look at shows say Cobra Kai for example, all the lead males are ripped with 6-packs and such and specialized (these are supposed to be highschool aged kids) while the females are all on the curvy side. The double standard has gotten worse.

Affectionate-School3 · 2022-08-18T19:55:10+00:00

I get annoyed by NYT opinion articles that promote believe all women et al, but I’ve noticed a significant recent increase in the amount of commenters resisting and fighting the ideology, including self proclaimed fems. I think people, not just ones in a men’s sub, are sick of it.

traveller1976 · 2022-08-18T20:12:32+00:00

This full on attack on men, especially the attempt to shame men into compliance, has and will utterly fail.

The more they blame men the more mgtow wins, with pump and dump relief.

Their utter disregard for what men want ane need is breathtakingly clear.

Previous civilizations fell in this manner.

GoodeBoi · 2022-08-18T05:54:40+00:00

Roe V Wade was a loss for everyone

AverageHorribleHuman · 2022-08-18T02:35:18+00:00

I think roe vs wade was a lose for both men and women.

KhrisBKream · 2022-08-18T05:56:57+00:00

Roe V. Wade is a loss for men and women. Definitely not a win for men at all

StudentOfTheTruth1 · 2022-08-18T05:50:15+00:00

I think saying such things as "feminism is losing" is way, way too optimistic and wishful thinking. I am afraid we are very far from that. This their regime we live in and they are intrenched incredibly deep. The biggest problem is that so many men = manginas, simps, support them and collaborate with them to throw their fellow men under the bus. That's the first thing that has to change.

beleidigtewurst · 2022-08-18T07:20:34+00:00

I don't see how RvW is a sign of anything.

In case of JD trial, shit did explode from within an comments on "woman's march" post that doubled down on AH are pretty telling.

On the other hand, if you'd only watch BBC your impression would be that there is some social media "trolls" conspiracy against AH, and it is at best he-said-she-said and at best they are both responsible, but, of course, he is more guilty, because "believe all people with vagina".

Substantial_Count_56 · 2022-08-18T15:34:57+00:00

Not to mention Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit on the frontlines.

TheDankMemer42 · 2022-08-19T15:39:51+00:00

I agree with the depp trial, he fully deserved to win that and amber was a bitch and its good that he got so much positive publicity, but roe v wade? Thats bodily autonomy man, everyone deserves the right to decide what happens to their body, whether they are male of female.

Official_SkyH1gh · 2022-08-18T14:18:39+00:00

I generally don't think roe v wade being overturned is good overall for either side though.

ptunger44 · 2022-08-18T15:27:49+00:00

We should be concerned for stuff like Roe v Wade federal government dictating body laws is fucked

RearwindowPinecone · 2022-08-18T04:15:45+00:00

but they dont like short kings

PRANAV_1234 · 2022-08-18T04:50:20+00:00

That reason for feminism was successful is because they wanted their problems solved and work with men to make a better society. Back in the days was logical. At the beginning the only jobs available were hard labour which women couldn't do so men did the job and Women took care of the house and family but as the world progressed and a lot soft and easy jobs started to appear which women can do and they wanted to work. They wanted to contribute more to the family and help the family and husband in finance so everyone supported it I mean . But now it's just "Women > Men", Women hitting is always for self defence and men hitting is always abuse, We don't need men men are trash and all the dog shit they said. Of course it would fail.

-Soggy-Potato- · 2022-08-18T13:02:57+00:00

I don’t think the Depp situation is a particularly good example since later evidence suggests both of them were abusive

At which point it’s basically a blanket loss for equality

The_James_Bond · 2022-08-18T13:30:37+00:00

There’s no way you see the overturning of Roe v Wade as a good thing for men’s rights 💀

yeahweliveforever · 2022-08-18T09:59:56+00:00

It's actually startling how people in this thread think the only choices are mad men-hating feminists or submissive women.

Get a grip. Women don't need to be submissive and go back in time to being nothing but wives and mothers.

Feminism was needed then and is needed now. There are always going to be branches of movements that are extreme or unhelpful - doesn't make the full thing a problem.

The same goes for men's rights movements. There are plenty of issues that men have a right to protest about but demanding women be feminine and submissive to men? Nah fuck off.

Zenia_neow · 2022-08-18T16:55:29+00:00

Feminism will continue to exist as long as misogyny and masculine values dominate society. You simply can't share a cultural ideology with women that relegated them to the home and subservience to men. Feminism definitely isn't losing, it might be losing favor but they've been around even in times where people labeling themselves as feminists/suffregette would have a target on their back.

maryhartman000 · 2022-08-17T23:49:31+00:00

If it was, you'd not talk about it. It's winning baby. It's why there is a whole sub designed to dismantle it. We can't be stopped.

Starforce2005 · 2022-08-18T04:12:19+00:00

Far from it, if I were to describe it, think it as stock market, its like a retraction after a long period of bullish momentum

LoopyPro · 2022-08-18T05:07:00+00:00

Some battles were won, but the war is far from it. Your examples might be described in the future as pivotal points, but there's a long way to go from there.

awkwarddoggos · 2022-08-18T12:27:52+00:00

I dunno man I think bill burr has had some spot on points for feminism

Iceman_Hottie · 2022-08-18T13:15:56+00:00

It's not a win in the way you think. Those wins are not from the turning of the tides, but from feminism etc. going insane too quickly.

The issue that it doesn't tackle the underlying problem and those ideas slowly become acceptable. It's the same story as people accepting the outright inversion of what actually happened. Simplest version is "feminists don't hate men" and "fourth wave feminism is bad", when baring a few exceptions most of them did from the inception. The same book applies to the rest.

Who remembers that the biggest philosopher behind creating the left-wing (Marat) actively opposed the scientific method of Kant (the scientific method) and Newton's works, along with advocating for terrorism?

These things need to be addressed, otherwise it is not really a win.

Im_goin_commando · 2022-08-18T14:23:08+00:00

Feminism is a long way from losing. Men are constantly under assault. I find feminism to be increasingly toxic for men in general.

ChadWolf98 · 2022-08-18T14:43:30+00:00

Are feminists really that stupid to try to "win" the Depp case? Even the most anti police liberal drops the outrage after the photo of the "unarmed" criminal's gun is shown, and even the most back the blue conservative condemns the uvalde idiot police. Does feminists really have 0 shame?

Same with roe, no matter how pro choice you are its undeniable that the constitution doesnt mandate abortion in every state. Clearly gun rights and freedom of speech, or even not quartering soldiers were important enough to make it, why not abortion? Also pcers are free to try for a pro abortion amendment as well.

AbysmalDescent · 2022-08-18T16:06:27+00:00

I don't really know that feminism is losing and, if it is, it seems to be losing to traditionalism. The progress for equality, men's rights and pushing back against misandry is still looking relatively dire to me.

npcomp42 · 2022-08-18T20:54:19+00:00

The problem is when feminism changed from a quest for equality to an ideology of chauvinism and supremacism. The original feminist goals were long since achieved.

Dependent-Jury-5046 · 2022-08-20T01:38:13+00:00

Amber heard pooped on Johny depp’s bed. That’s no innocent girl lol

Iamalizardperson234 · 2022-08-22T18:06:35+00:00

Roe v Wade should NOT have been overturned and feminism shouldn't lose.

Title	Feminism is losing.
Author	Munstruenl
Upvotes	396
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Date	August 17, 2022 9:33 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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