“Me hitting you is okay but you can’t hit me.”

DepressedDandylion · 2022-09-18T10:43:19+00:00

I had an ex who actually thought like that

Sudden_Difference500 · 2022-09-18T11:14:18+00:00

I know where this nonsense is coming from. Men are stronger than women in general so these feminists say there is an imbalance. Women can throw things, use all kind of things as weapons, hit very vulnerable body parts like eyes, nose, neck etc. Women are not weak, they can inflict heavy damage to the strongest man. So this argument is just wrong and hostile to male victims of domestic violence.

Great-Gap1030 · 2022-09-18T11:39:58+00:00

Women can match the brutality of men, period.

It's radical feminists who try to exaggerate our strengths in order to downplay their potential for brutality.

And it's even hostile to male victims of domestic violence.

Down with the matriarchy!

DouglasMilnes · 2022-09-18T12:51:17+00:00

I agree that violence by women is not the same as domestic violence by men.

• When men are attacked in the street, there is far less public support for them.
• When women are convicted of violence their punishment on average is far less than that for convicted men.
• Women will often use weapons or poisons in thier violence and create much worse wounds.
• Although the men's movement is doing good work in this area, there is still stigma attached to a man being beaten up by a woman; for example it is a laughing matter on television. A woman beaten by a man has access to huge resources, social help and legal support.

Yes, absolutely: violence by women is not the same as domestic violence by men.

Klutzy_Pride_5644 · 2022-09-18T12:06:25+00:00

Maybe she's correct as there is no societal support for male victims of female-perpetrated DV. Perhaps she is campaigning against female privilege /s

needalife94 · 2022-09-18T11:46:49+00:00

Expect it is the same. It doesn't matter what gender is doing it. Yea , men on average are stronger. But women can also use items and that can be an equalizer.

63daddy · 2022-09-18T12:48:57+00:00

Another example of feminists claiming to be about gender equality while in reality promoting double standards.

matrixislife · 2022-09-18T16:49:57+00:00

Women usually cannot match the physical power of men, but that means nothing when a man has to sleep, or is looking the other way, or is otherwise distracted, and she can always use a rolling pin, just for traditions sake. Idiots who think they are invulnerable are half the problem with this.

I think that we're fighting other men most of the time on rights issues, they seem to think that if one man is disadvantaged for whatever reason, then that's to their own benefit. They are apparently blind to the probability that whatever screwed the first guy up will come round to bite themselves eventually.

SlyPogona · 2022-09-18T14:24:51+00:00

The biggest flaw in feminism is to ignore that women can be equal also in brutality and spite as the worst man

DavidByron2 · 2022-09-18T15:51:55+00:00

Women are especially hurt by being beaten or murdered. Men are like apes; they are unfeeling animals and don't really feel pain.

Feminism uses the same bigot logic that racists used to say about black people 200 years ago.

hawkeyepitts · 2022-09-18T12:49:00+00:00

What? They can’t have it both ways.

The driving idea behind this is equity, where women aren’t as physically strong as men so it’s okay for them to hit men but not vice versa. But the same women who are all about equity are the same women who will exclaim that women are just as strong as men. You can’t have it both ways lol.

These types of women know that they are physically weaker, and they’re just vicious vindictive people who want to bend reality and the rules so they can ‘win’ no matter what. It’s not about who is stronger, it’s about twisting reality so that it’s socially acceptable for women to be abusive.

It’s disgusting because if you don’t play along, you get labeled as a misogynist.

bigez526 · 2022-09-18T18:11:02+00:00

All men should wear body cams and have massive harddrives.

CommissarSteel56 · 2022-09-18T15:28:53+00:00

I have been told to defend myself if I am attacked yet I am unable to fight back if being threatened by a woman? Explain how I am supposed to do so?

aigars2 · 2022-09-18T18:38:04+00:00

Violence is violence

trashtony69 · 2022-09-18T23:42:49+00:00

That’s right. Because a man can be the victim of domestic violence and still be labeled the assaulter.

2022-09-18T12:42:09+00:00

r/pussypass

Surv1ver · 2022-09-18T15:13:29+00:00

Why does these Karens always insist on defending and downplaying the abusive behavior of other Karens?

It’s like its own literary genre of journalism at this point.

Imagine if other groups behaved similar. For instance, I never seen you MRA guys be like “yearh, every men have the right to slap his wife”.
That is one of reasons why I love this sub.

boomboxspence · 2022-09-18T16:21:37+00:00

I guess it's not the same because when men are abused by women they get no support! In fact they're more likely to be arrested than the woman abusing them

Nightstalkerjoe2 · 2022-09-18T12:19:05+00:00

Ok first of it doesn’t matter if a woman is “biologically weaker” it’s not a constant and it could change depending on the fitness level of the woman and the man and even still a woman can do damage, not only that things such as weapons as well as other objects can be turned into weapons, so no it is very much the same acting like it’s different is literally sexism

Space_Exploring7_6 · 2022-09-18T12:54:41+00:00

That's their strategy, make no mistake....

Check "toxic masculinity"... Check how they claim it is so toxic for men, but promote its qualities among themselves...

It's bad for men, but good for women... You have to follow the game's rules, which happens to suit me, but I don't have to because women blah, blah, blah....

And we've fallen for that shit... I can't believe how many men fell guilty for things they haven't done, yet they have been brainwashed into thinking they have to pay some kind of price...

NorskChef · 2022-09-18T13:53:23+00:00

So women have never stabbed or shot a man to death?

Even in Bible times there's a story of a woman killing a man by hammering a nail into his temple.

Educational_Bet_6606 · 2022-09-18T12:35:26+00:00

Seen this since I was small. Unfortunate double standard.

Comodore · 2022-09-18T14:08:32+00:00

Its not the same. Its worse.

ChaosOpen · 2022-09-18T15:40:06+00:00

Yeah, domestic violence between men and women don't compare, bruises fade after a few weeks but emotional scars last for decades.

silly_little_jingle · 2022-09-18T16:18:41+00:00

By this logic anyone who is physically weaker should be allowed to attack anyone that is stronger with impunity.

2022-09-18T16:19:56+00:00

We know, we know.. literally everything is worse when a man does it so women should be excused... we know, we know.... SMH

SweetAccomplished542 · 2022-09-18T16:30:53+00:00

Did anyone else see the Nissan commercial with Amber Heard in it. Disgusting 🤮 I’ll never buy a Nissan

Ninja_Arena · 2022-09-18T18:36:41+00:00

I don't say this often but what a piece of shit for writing that article. At best she's gaslighting the victims...."sure it's bad but at least it's not a dude" and the reality is she's a bigot that sees men as only what they envision in their social circles. Fuck that person. Making the world a worst place one article at a time.

GruffMcdwarf · 2022-09-18T19:43:53+00:00

Exwife and I went to three different marriage counselors, only one addressed it even though I brought her violence up to all three.

daylight_stalker · 2022-09-18T21:50:16+00:00

If a girl starts yelling, screaming, and hitting me cause of a hissy fit. Then I'm gonna well not do anything and just run like hell haha. I don't wanna be castrated by the white knights and simps alike. Too many whoreshippers to be going around hitting women back.

Dispositionate · 2022-09-18T13:52:32+00:00

5'2 dude starts punching a 6'4 guy, you expect the bigger guy to hit back in self defence...even though his attacker is "biologically weaker", and smaller.

We all know that you shouldn't throw the first punch without expecting one back, but somehow women are fine with small man vs. tall man violence because...

Ummm...

"Manlets, lol" ??

banersCave · 2022-09-18T11:56:39+00:00

It’s correct though. Both are different. It’s easy to prove dv against women, it’s really hard to prove against men.

SteveorJimmyorJack · 2022-09-18T12:23:13+00:00

As sick as feminism was supposed to be.

TAPriceCTR · 2022-09-18T15:52:13+00:00

It's not the same. It's less common and more potent. Violence and self restraint are 2 of the many things men are better at than women. Doesn't justify ignoring women's violence

Not_n_A-Hole_usually · 2022-09-18T18:36:10+00:00

August 28, 2012…approximately 4:00 in the morning. The last time I was arrested because of this cunt. Mind you there’s probably a dozen incidents similar to this prior, and maybe more.

She was a cheater, a thief, an addict, and as far as I can tell a narcissistic sociopath. She’s long gone now, almost a decade since I kicked her out, but this was the incident among many that finally broke me and put me on the warpath.

I wake up as I usually do. Generally this drunken POS doesn’t get home until I’m leaving for work or sometime afterwards, but tonight she graced me with her presence shortly after the bars closed. What a treat. I guess there were no random cocks to suck that night.

I wake up to find the burner to the stove on, the back door wide open, and the dog nowhere to be found.

Being extremely fed up with this fucking routine I go about waking that bitch up and informing her she needs to drag her drunk ass out of bed to go find HER dog. I didn’t want the god damned thing because I knew her little pocket accessory would eventually become my responsibility because she can’t be responsible for even herself. Well, she decides she’s not going to get up and punches me in the face while telling me to go find the dog myself. As pissed as I am, it’s not the dog’s fault, so I throw on some shoes and go looking.

Come back to my house to my house to find a police cruiser out front. And I’m arrested, at gun point mind you, for domestic assault and battery. Bitch punched me and then called the cops. Not that the detail matters but it was a female cop, and she was new to the station so we had never had any run ins previously.

The beauty of the entire situation was when it came time for the pre trial hearing at the local magistrate I bumped into a different cop from the area, one whom I’ve dealt with before, one who knew my situation, and one I had connected with via a previous call as it turns out we both had known the same guy who had died a couple years prior and had had a conversation about him.

Female district attorney comes in armed with all the info on previous domestic disturbances at my house (charges were always eventually dropped for various reasons. I wish I could say because they were dropped because they were always complete bullshit but no, it was usually just a technicality). She wants hard time, she wants to send a message. I have no lawyer. I need no lawyer. By this time I’ve set up cameras in my house and I came armed to the teeth. But I didn’t really need all of that. In front of me, officer #2 speaks with the DA and tells her point blank what’s going on in my house. She’s still not satisfied. She insists I plead to something. I just tell her I’ll call exactly one witness if this goes to trial, that officer, and I’ll have him repeat exactly what he just said to you. I’m done with this bullshit justice system. Give me my trial date.

Needless to say charges were dropped on the spot, and I now have very serious trust issues when it comes to women.

TodayIThrowAway16 · 2022-09-18T20:38:05+00:00

I have had several disagreements about this with a couple of women. First, I did have an ex who hit me. She was much smaller than me and I was able to just walk away which would be my first choice always.

But I believe that a man has every right to defend himself including punching a woman with force if that's what it takes to stop the violence.

It just takes one well-placed, closed fist punch from anyone (even a smaller woman) to render one unconscious which is something nobody wants.

Several ex's were surprised that I believed this was OK.

PicklesAreMyFriends · 2022-09-18T21:00:30+00:00

"Women are just as capable as men"

"Women cannot match the brutality of men"

Laytheblameonluck · 2022-09-19T01:07:47+00:00

Essentially saying "women cannot match the non-virtousness of men".

Genderflip: "Men cannot match the non-virtousness of women"

As in "men cannot match the evil of women"...

Hey, let's go start a witch-hunt!!!

Because that's what this is.

It's a witch-hunt.

YesYesYesVeryGood · 2022-09-18T21:25:30+00:00

I want to thank this sub for bestowing stories like this.

I am in an argument with my recent ex about money. She owes me money and his refusing to pay me back. She tried to invite me over to her place, and I have refused.

I do not want her to accuse me of anything physical. I've kept my conversation over text civil and having forwarded the transcript to my lawyer. I am taking her to court to get the money back, plus to the cost of attorney and court fees.

When we post stories like this, it is not in vain. Someone learns.

Bascome · 2022-09-18T11:59:31+00:00

Sure women can kill men, but they can't "match the brutality".

It also sounds like a good argument to not let women into the military.

Revolutionary_Town21 · 2022-09-18T14:51:15+00:00

You hit me first, you'll get hit back..no matter what's your gender

gaspitsagirl · 2022-09-18T17:37:26+00:00

I'm a woman and I read young adult books sometimes, which have a shocking number of times the female lead will hit a man and it's presented as being totally fine. Even though it's fiction, I feel that behavior like that should be explicitly presented as being a bad thing, rather than glorifying it. Let it happen in your books, but make it clear that it was a bad thing the character did.

hawkeyepitts · 2022-09-18T12:48:39+00:00

What? They can’t have it both ways.

The driving idea behind this is equity, where women aren’t as physically strong as men so it’s okay for them to hit men but not vice versa. But the same women who are all about equity are the same women who will exclaim that women are just as strong as men. You can’t have it both ways lol.

These types of women know that they are physically weaker, and they’re just vicious vindictive people who want to bend reality and the rules so they can ‘win’ no matter what. It’s not about who is stronger, it’s about twisting reality so that it’s socially acceptable for women to be abusive.

It’s disgusting because if you don’t play along, you get labeled as a misogynist.

Snarky_Cat_Lawyer · 2022-09-18T10:47:49+00:00

Someone punch her in the face please.

Anyone, whoever’s closest to her.

hankbaumbach · 2022-09-18T13:34:20+00:00

It's the same thing. You can tell because they use the same word to describe the behavior and that's how words work.

solidsalmon · 2022-09-18T15:15:59+00:00

Both of those points are mutually exclusive and should be treated as such.

edit: the but should be an and. Read how to have impossible conversations by Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay for clarification.

Rainbow_Golem · 2022-09-18T16:38:08+00:00

oh god. that person's face. that's a confrontational facial expression. and that's coming from a person who doesn't react to confrontational facial expressions it just slowly builds up a toxic sludge in the back of my mind

edit: I'm sure that's just how she looks but why do they look like that??

frednoname1 · 2022-09-18T17:54:07+00:00

Shocker. Do not date the crazies. I now know from experience. Spent more than one night in jail. Thank god is expunged.

BrightTomatillo · 2022-09-18T18:11:00+00:00

The woman pictured is Layla Moran , a British np. I call bs on this tabloid headline. Prove me wrong.

qtyapa · 2022-09-18T22:32:13+00:00

Yeah, its like saying "rape by bf is not same as rape".

niceandmoist69 · 2022-09-18T23:24:51+00:00

Backpfeifengesicht

michaelklr · 2022-09-19T02:26:12+00:00

Just have to ask them to define what a man is....

Codename-18 · 2022-09-19T06:47:39+00:00

Answer "try to hit me and we'll find out". Sure AF she won't.

Hollowgradient · 2022-09-22T13:30:30+00:00

Well it's not the exact same, if that's what they mean. Both situations have bad aspects. In the man hitting woman scenario, the woman is probably more likely to actually have serious harm done, as men are typically stronger, but on the other hand, woman hitting man, nobody will take the man seriously and it could therefore go on for a lot longer. They aren't the same, but they are both terrible and neither should be diminished

NeoNotNeo · 2022-09-18T13:04:11+00:00

Equal rights is often met with equal lefts.

Gerald-Eazy · 2022-09-18T13:08:07+00:00

The woman in the picture has such a slappable face

randomferalcat · 2022-09-18T14:09:43+00:00

Yeah right 👍

H20man1 · 2022-09-18T20:03:05+00:00

To everyone reading this, I think a good tool to use in these scenarios is pepper spray. If I'm every getting assaulted by a woman, any physical defense on my part has the potential to be painted to the jury as disproportionate use of force. Warning them first if possible and if they don't stop what they are doing, use it. I think it would help in your defense as you technically never put your hands on her using your male strength, you only used what was needed to stop the attack.

Responsible_File_529 · 2022-09-18T22:50:21+00:00

As I am reading this, it makes me think about how there are men that don’t complain about women hitting them. Is this because these men have the external power/influence (wealth/status) to protect themselves from this type of attack? I think of Johnny Depp

izzyag · 2022-09-18T17:05:10+00:00

Nobody should be hitting anybody… what kind of bullshit is that?? For once I’d like men to stop making excuses against feminism and for once I’d like women to realise what actual feminism is… nobody in the name of true equality is going to say anything like that and I believe that is rather obvious… if you really believe that’s what feminism is about and if you are only listening to that it’s because you only WANT to listen to that so stop making excuses and stop tearing down the true cause and just focus on what’s important instead of debating useless shit like this

ecctt2000 · 2022-09-18T14:11:33+00:00

Yes it is

Black_raspberries · 2022-09-18T18:22:11+00:00

Both bad, but men are stronger than women that has to be taken into account.

Clemicus · 2022-09-18T11:05:30+00:00

~~That's the partial title~~

Layla Moran was wrong to hit her partner. But domestic violence by women is not the same as domestic violence by men

Female perpetrators of domestic violence do not go on to mass murders and terrorist binge kills

Layla Moran, the Liberal Democrat MP for Oxford West and Abingdon speaks several languages, and is known for her political ambitions, candour and feminist principles. Previously a physics and maths teacher, she is the UK’s first ever British-Palestinian MP and will be a front-runner in the Lib Dem leadership contest when Vince Cable quits later this year.

It was all going well for her until last Saturday when she tweeted a small confession. In 2013, she was arrested for assaulting her then partner, Richard David, an analytics expert. She was held in police custody and charged, but the case was then dropped.

Ms Moran admitted slapping Davis during a row, because she felt “threatened”. Apparently, they have “both forgiven each other”. The MP has repeatedly condemned the bullying and harassment culture in parliament and publicly supports domestic abuse services.

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/layla-moran-lib-dems-domestic-violence-273416

Image source: https://twitter.com/ipaperviews/status/1110863457614786560

Edit: Why is the image cropped on the app? Just switched to desktop to find the article

Edit2: That's a iNews news article 😑

Edit3: Removed heading

Edit4: The above is a news article. The same one referenced in the OP

BillBull7890 · 2022-09-18T13:44:28+00:00

In a perfect world both of you supposed to hit once. She hits first.

ThereAreNoChristians · 2022-09-18T19:26:14+00:00

This sub is hilarious. I am a man, not sure if there are any actual men in here, but the victimhood and persecution fetish is absolutely wild. Grow the fuck up. Try to be a decent human being.

NarrowAd8832 · 2022-09-18T23:55:40+00:00

I think domestic violence from women to men is much less threatening on average than domestic violence from men to women. So I think it makes sense to look at them differently and prioritize them differently.

SweetAccomplished542 · 2022-09-18T16:26:09+00:00

Equal rights equal lefts

leif-sinatra · 2022-09-18T23:37:08+00:00

In my Samoan side of the family were raised to hit and love everyone equally

WingsofSky · 2022-09-18T23:53:37+00:00

Good luck saying anything. The radical moderators will probably be banning people for everything.

JacktheRipperColour · 2022-09-19T01:32:54+00:00

It's exactly the same!

jother1 · 2022-09-19T01:51:43+00:00

My ex wife seemed to subscribe to this. Basically your choice with a violent woman is to sit there and take it and you still are walking on egg shells hoping neighbors don’t call the police. And she loved to call me weak as she beat me uncontested lol

bigez526 · 2022-09-19T04:20:03+00:00

The only way to live a peaceful existence, is to get together with like minded men. But a large piece of land. Nominate and vote for each other to take over local governments. Develop co-ops with businesses. Be the governments. Be the judges.

tnlaxbro94 · 2022-09-19T04:20:49+00:00

Equal rights equal fights

DmitryKostyukRUS · 2022-09-19T12:18:51+00:00

Feminists are crazy

Slibye · 2022-09-19T17:11:23+00:00

So? It’s ok for a girl to leave bruises against guys for being pissed for no reason?

“Me hitting you is okay but you can’t hit me.”

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Title	“Me hitting you is okay but you can’t hit me.”
Author	ClintBrockGT
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Date	September 18, 2022 10:41 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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