A boy forced to have sex with a teacher is "objectively lucky", not a victim of rape?

nigglereddit · 2013-08-23T16:56:13+00:00

Obviously this is unacceptable, but have a care.

He's so desperate for approval and sexual success that he's reduced to thinking that even attention from a predatory pedophile would be welcome.

Would a successful, confident man have to resort to wishing he'd been raped as a child to feel like he'd fulfilled his sexual identity?

I don't.

Do you?

Everything_Is_Rape · 2013-08-23T17:35:29+00:00

When a female teacher coerces an underage boy to have sex with her there's nothing else to call it but rape. It's exactly the same as if the sexes were reversed, it's rape.

The boy raped the teacher.

superfuzzy · 2013-08-23T17:46:07+00:00

He's being sarcastic, no? He opposes feminism and it's supposed to be a Norwegian MRA. Look at his blog.

I'm confused.

grrw · 2013-08-23T17:22:58+00:00

I never understood this difference. They call it seduction instead of rape, ok...that's fine - but why is it then wrong for a grown man to seduce a girl? Girls mature faster than boys, does that not mean by this logic that statutory rape laws (that is rape laws regarding cases were the victim consented) should be LESS strict for them, no?

Or are these people claiming that girls'/women's opinions on what they desire carry less weight than the claimed opinions of boys/men?

Saerain · 2013-08-23T20:10:18+00:00

You'll take the attentions of any of the fairer sex who'll have you and you'll be grateful, shitlord.

fukuaneveryoneuknow · 2013-08-23T19:07:17+00:00

Woman rapes child, not rape because he's male.

that's ok, in fact its a good thing, he's "lucky".

And you people think I'm overreacting when I wish these kinds of people were dead.

414RequestURITooLong · 2013-08-23T20:11:47+00:00

It's only rape if she's fat, ugly, or crazy

egomosnonservo · 2013-08-23T20:03:04+00:00

MRAs, meet your Norwegian Representative.

ProjectileSpider · 2013-08-23T21:26:24+00:00

I'm in high school and I would feel lucky if I got to have sex with one of my hot teachers. I would consider it rape if I didn't want it. I would not consider it rape if I did.

Vordreller · 2013-08-23T19:29:56+00:00

The idea of young guys getting lucky with older women is a fabrication of older men who are fantasizing about the hot teachers they had at some point, or the hot teacher their child now has.

This is an adult man's fantasy. Not the fantasy of a 14 year old.

badwolfx · 2013-08-23T18:49:52+00:00

B-But he liked it! /s

luxury_banana · 2013-08-23T22:04:26+00:00

Eivind Berge is a bit weird and has strange ideas that come from a strictly evolutionary/game theory standpoint.

caepha · 2013-08-23T23:28:00+00:00

on a slightly related note, I got a laugh earlier when the radio played don't stand so close by the police, and then followed it up with hot for teacher by van halen. the two songs really so what the stereotypes of teacher/student relationships are.

rapscallionx · 2013-08-24T05:38:27+00:00

Every time I hear any comment about men being rapists I think back to this girl I use to know. She always wanted to get drunk at her place and lay in her bed. She would always get on top of me and do one of those dominance things where she'd hold my shoulders down to try to be sexy or something, clearly pushing for sex... grinding on me and shit. I wasn't really interested and I think that made her want it more. That's actually happened with a few women I've known over the years.

I really feel like I'm an average guy that nothing really special happens to me so the fact that this is so common to me that I don't even pay it a seconds notice is a good indication that this is probably a common occurrence for guys, we just don't go ape shit and get the media involved calling for the heads of those women on pikes when it happens.

PerniciousOne · 2013-08-24T14:09:42+00:00

What would happen in the circumstances of a male teacher cornering the young boy and forcing him to have sex, would it still be delightful?

GoogleNoAgenda · 2013-08-24T18:37:17+00:00

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2013-08-23T20:27:14+00:00

only women can be raped, just like only whites can be racist.

wwwhistler · 2013-08-23T21:24:39+00:00

as long as people in general and feminists in particular consider that all sex is something that "is done TO a female" this kind of attitude will continue.

2013-08-23T21:28:06+00:00

Usually these female teachers that do this shit are hot. I definitely see how many or all of these boys could feel "lucky" or happy about it happening, but that's completely irrelevant.

I'm sure that many females who are sexually abused by older males also feel "lucky" and like the attention they are getting at the time that it's happening, but that doesn't matter. They are too young to consent. Any adult who pursues sexual relations with a pre-teen is a sexual predator... regardless of gender.

2013-08-23T18:37:06+00:00

"Objectively"

2013-08-23T22:30:02+00:00

The key word in that bottom tweet was "most". Not even the person on the affirmative can make it seem like someone isn't approving of this.

2013-08-23T23:29:59+00:00

Eivind Berge is a moron.

edit: To clarify for those that don't read norwegian newspapers: He wrote on his blog that he wanted to kill a policeman on Torgallmeningen (the central square in Bergen). The police charged him for glorification of, and inciting to, violence against the police. Strangely enough he was acquitted because, according to the 110 year old norwegian penal code, the internet is not a public place (facepalm x G). A new penal code was enacted(?) by the norwegian parliament seven years ago, but it has not been implemented because the computer system of the norwegian police isn't up to using both the new and the old penal code in a transition period (facepalm x G^G). He has also expressed his sympathy for Anders Behring Breivik.

nerdflu · 2013-08-24T04:43:40+00:00

Well the key factor in both cases is "forced" or "coerced". If 14/15 yr old consents, or asks for it, then depending on local laws, it would only be statutory rape.

If the elder uses position of power (teacher, coach, minister, etc) and forces or coerces, then it doesn't matter if male, female, underage or adult, that is rape.

Because society dictates that boys are supposed to be walking hardons and trying to get any sex they can, we get the people trying to give a rape victim a "lucky boy medal". Since society wants girls to be all chaste and "wholesome" and whatnot, even if she wants to have sex, it is rape.

Because of these views, if I ever break up with my current girlfriend, I will be giving up sex with others.

Champigne · 2013-08-24T04:54:51+00:00

I can't tell if the guy is being overtly sarcastic; if so, pretty clever. If not, just wow...

Perpetual_dissident · 2013-08-24T05:23:40+00:00

That Eivind Berge dude is a huge joke. He read "a natural hystory of rape" by Tornhill and Palmer, a book that admitedly by its authors only studied stranger rape, and he believes that shit is gospel. I recommend not feeding that troll.

coreclick · 2013-08-24T07:30:40+00:00

This is great. This shows that while feminists are usually the ones we're trying to convince, a lot of girls still care about Men's Rights too, and sometimes we're fighting against our own gender.

TheToeSnail · 2013-08-24T10:12:15+00:00

Nicccce.

loungedmor · 2013-08-24T10:56:28+00:00

Isn't Judgybitch a feminist blogger? Good to note that she believes a male can be raped by a woman.

dan105 · 2013-08-24T16:07:36+00:00

Well I guess a lot of this has to do with the attitude about men and sex. Men are expected to have sex with lots of women and be the "alpha-male" Going off the statement "A key that unlocks many locks is a good key," men are, in American culture, expected to be the key. They're expected to be assertive, aggressive, and to be able to mark their (sexual) territory.

Because of those social attitudes, sexual violence against men isn't taken as seriously.

1fastman1 · 2013-08-24T17:09:33+00:00

What if he was gay?

2013-08-24T19:03:07+00:00

'Men cannot be raped because they always enjoy it' 'A woman cannot rape a man because he is always willing'

And then in the next breath...

'WOMEN ARE NOT 'GATEKEEPERS' OF SEX. WE WANT SEX JUST AS MUCH AS MEN DO. IT IS JUST AS HARD FOR US TO GET LAID AS IT IS FOR YOU, BUT IF YOU WEREN'T SUCH A NECKBEARD VIRGIN YOU'D KNOW THAT HA HA!'

2013-08-23T20:44:03+00:00

Eivind was obviously joking... Edward, under him... not so sure.

2013-08-23T21:02:35+00:00

Eivind Berge is also the guy who said affirmative actions meant rape was OK. Ignore his ass, he's stupid and upset that he can't get laid.

GoogleNoAgenda · 2013-08-24T08:46:10+00:00

Just to clarify, are we saying that it impossible for an underage boy to consent to having sex with a female teacher?

I'm not sure how many cases of non-consesual sex between a boy and his female teacher are described as "lucky".

Isn't the issue here the difference between the publics reaction to consenting sex between a girl and her male teacher and a boy and his teacher. Obviously both are wrong, but the general feeling is that the former is more wrong and by several orders of magnitude, too.

Canadianelite · 2013-08-23T20:31:15+00:00

A man who pluralizes with apostrophe's is fucking dumb.

enemyofpoliticians · 2013-08-23T22:59:41+00:00

I agree, lucky boy... as long as the teacher was a woman ...

JaydenPope · 2013-08-23T20:27:51+00:00

I bet he's also a person that thinks all the girls that get raped by a teacher are "lucky"

2013-08-24T06:28:10+00:00

Why does everyone act like this is so hard to understand?

As a male when I was in my teens my ultimate dream was to have sex with some older lady. Because frankly the girls my age were not ready yet and besides they didn't know what they were doing anyway. Meanwhile some milf or unattached woman in her 30's was like a sex goddess.

But as an adult looking back on the women who took advantage of my yearnings for sex it makes me wonder if part of the reason why my relationships with women have always been so fucked up was because I was learning things from older women that were light years ahead of what girls my own age knew. Being in a relationship with women older than me was totally pointless because they never took me seriously as a person or really care at all about my needs. Women my age or younger didn't know enough to entertain or really interest me.

So I think while there is an element of male sex karma to be gained by fucking older chics there is also an element of being used by those older chics. So it's really hard to determine what is right and wrong here. But what is not hard to understand is why sometimes some young males are treated as lucky for achieving this goal.

But to be frank, the only reason why people are so uptight about older men fucking younger women is because then those older men can knock the women up embarassing and causing problems for the girls family. Our society tries to gloss over this angle thru the wonders of modern feminism and how even a teenage pregnant girl can have her own reality show etc... but the fact remains that a younger female has always had more to lose by hanging with an older sexual partner than a male has.

Unenjoyed · 2013-08-24T01:27:11+00:00

Hey everybody, let's all react to some random bloggish looking thing.

ronoclad · 2013-08-23T21:53:05+00:00

guys guys guys come on now i can't be the only one hear who thinks ..... nicccccceeeee i wish this kid was real so we could find this kid and give him the luckiest boy in america award . nice

Hessmix · 2013-08-24T03:38:27+00:00

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Kickedbk · 2013-08-23T19:46:07+00:00

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Offensive_Brute · 2013-08-23T20:22:45+00:00

is that a man saying these things? Revoke his cock and balls. Being a man is like being Spiderman. With great power comes with great responsibility. Some one hold him down while I neuter him like how they used to neuter animals in the old days, with a hot razor.

Nekrosis13 · 2013-08-23T20:38:26+00:00

Let's be honest. Most straight men, know that as teenagers, they would have LOVED to have sex with an attractive older woman, many even fantasize about their teachers. It's true. Men are programmed to want to have sex at every opportunity that presents itself.

The problem is that we're treating this situation as if having sex with an older woman were terrifying to younger men/teenagers. This is simply not true in MOST cases. Definitely in far fewer cases than if, say, a male teacher forced a female student to have sex.

However, the law is the law and it's unacceptable for any select enforcement to occur. That's absolutely true.

Title	A boy forced to have sex with a teacher is "objectively lucky", not a victim of rape?
Author	GoogleNoAgenda
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Date	August 23, 2013 3:06 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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