CMV: It is a total myth that male friendship is "real friendship" and that women aren't good friends to each other. There is actually evidence that the opposite might be the case: Men are not good friends to each other and usually rely on women for emotional support

Aubrey_D_Graham · 2021-04-13T04:11:32+00:00

The first study was published in 1988. You're overlooking the fact that gender roles and dynamics has changed a lot since then.

As an observation, bromances are in vogue and celebrated. Anecdotedly, I appreciate and affirm my male friends. Probably helps that we're involved in a male only organization.

2021-04-13T03:20:20+00:00

In my experience, there are both Male and female friendships that are very shallow and used more as a tool for networking and social support. Everyone has their friends and their "friends."

As far as your "evidence" goes, you might be mistaking this for the fact that men can't be emotional around other men, especially if they're not actually friends, and so our troubles are better received by women.

Me and my best bro talk about a lot of things and we're very open with each other. Nothing is off-limits and we support each other when it's needed, and when significant life events happen. I don't really keep people around unless they're actually friends, so I can't speak about the "friends"-portion of this.

Eastuss · 2021-04-13T09:04:11+00:00

This comes from the idea that in the female social matrix, aggression are declaration of war and separation. While in the male social matrix, aggression are a way of socializing.

However men rarely get as intimate as women get. But I think the idea that men do not derive emotional support and therapeutic value from their male friendship is a gross gynomorphism. You seem to be watching at all this from a female lens and thinking "they can't do female friendship to each others therefore they can't do friendship"

And THIS is the real reason why so many men are devastated by divorce. It is not about money. It is actually the women who have more to lose by divorcing when it comes to finances.

I bet this link totally forgets about CS, alimony, and separation of goods that all favors the lesser earner in the relationship, which tends to be the woman. Why do women initiate 50% of breakups but 80% of divorce according to you? This hamstering is getting ridiculous.

Men are devastated by divorce because

everything they worked to build goes away, what women build doesn't go away
everybody is more likely to take the woman's side and turn their back to him socially, and he's being treated like an incel. It's not that men do not want to turn to familly and friends, it's that it's not a possibility to them.
All what's left is his job which only purpose was to feed his family, it's likely he never derived any personal development from the job.
they don't see their kids

just_a_place · 2021-04-13T06:18:03+00:00

Are you telling me my bromances aren't real? 😮

It is not that we "rely" on women for emotional support. I think that the dynamic we have with women is of a more sexually intimate nature than what we would have with our fellow man which is explicitly for the purpose of sexual bonding and romantic intimacy. This is no way means we don't rely on our bros for actual support in the real world such as finding a job, accomplishing a task, facing a challenge, or facing a crisis. As guys we do seek out the aid of our male friends when we have problems in THE REAL WORLD which I dare say are actually real problems, such as crashing at a buddy's house when we have no place to stay or lending each other money, property or practical advice for a difficult task. We usually do not count on this type of support from women.

Also, you are portraying emotional support as if it is the only kind of support that exists, or even as if it's the only one that matters. Men do not actually need emotional support, at least not in the way that women provide it through sentimentalism and talking. Men require emotional support through practical problem solving skills, shared knowledge from other men, physical help, and practical assistance. For example: Helping each other on the job, on the street, or simply providing companionship and solidarity when going through a tough time. We solve our emotional issues by seeking to solve the real world underlying issue that is causing the bad feelings instead of wallowing on the feelings themselves. If a man feels like shit because he is poor he will seek to remedy the situation by seeking employment and sources of income and NOT by engaging in emotional acrobatic to numb the sense of disgrace and failure. We do not use our emotions like opiates to numb our senses when real world problems instigate bad feelings in us. Men emote through actions NOT words.

As men our basic instinct is to solve our own internal conflicts BY OURSELVES even when we are in the company of others. Where women perceive us to be "shutting down" what we are actually doing is re-booting our cognitive operating system. Men do not require sounding boards from which to bounce off our feelings in order to deal with them the way women do. Our own internal monologue is more than capable of doing that which is why we seek solitude when working out an internal problem.

Men, in contrast to women, derived emotional support and therapeutic value more from their opposite-sex relationships than their same-sex friendships.

This is in fact a BAD THING! Men who rely on the wife or girlfriend for support have essentially become dependent on her. They have lost the ability to be mentally and emotionally independent. And I believe this is one way that women ensure that a man stays devoted to her when she becomes his emotional crutch. It's the Florence Nightingale effect, except here women may actually be undermining a man's emotional stability or psychologically wounding him in order to become his emotional caretaker. This is why a lot of these women also tend to isolate men away from their male friends and why some men seek the advice of male friends when they start feeling entrapped by a woman. The whole premise of the movie Misery is based on this notion that a woman supports a wounded man even when she herself keeps those wounds open (or causes them) just for the purpose of mending them and keeping the man weak and helplessly dependent on her care. The ancient myth of the Succubus is also based on this premise.

And THIS is the real reason why so many men are devastated by divorce.

Indeed, especially when you consider all that I have said above.

Men have no real friends and it's every man for himself.

Ever heard of male bonding? Camaraderie? Fraternizing and Brotherhoods? Men are indeed competitive but we are also tribalistic which is how we have managed to build these extremely complex societies we call nations and on top of that we have managed to connect with every other one of our own kind across the whole planet. You do not accomplish such feats by being lone wolves, men know how to work as teams - sometimes to a frightening efficiency which women can't quite understand.

OXOzymandias · 2021-04-13T03:12:24+00:00

Tbh a lot of people say males friend dont do emotional support, but thats also because men dont go to other men to have this support...

And i am not that emotional, my gf can cry or feel bad sometimes/often, and it is fine, she has people to deal with it i can handle it, her mom too, her sister, bla bla, she created this web (instinctually?) of people who gonna help her emotionally in time of needs, i dont cry or feel very bad most of the time (during the last 5 years i didnt cry and i went through some rough stuff), so why i would look for an emotional outlet....

If it is something you almost never need, ofc you gonna be short of people able to help you with these things and gonna go for the people that you know handle these type of emotion more regularly.

So like....basing the quality of males friendship on an event who happen that rarely....idk sounds dumb lol

Plopolok · 2021-04-13T09:09:57+00:00

People say that men's friendships are more real mostly because women are more likely to have many superficial friends and men are more likely to have a few close friends. Additionally, women tend to be both more polite and more judgmental, so they make more efforts to keep up the appearances of friendship. Men otoh can more easily tolerate all kinds of abuse from each other, which means that the "real strength" of their friendship isn't very visible. But there's no need to turn all this into "women are shitty" - "no that's a total myth the shitty ones are men": both genders just have different ways of being friends. It's indeed hard for men to provide emotional support to each other, that's not what men's friendships are made of, and they value it less than women do.

more men than women stated they would not cancel an engagement with an opposite-sex friend in order to go out with a same-sex friend

It's a bit unfair to base the evaluation on just that: women's company is simply more valued by everyone. And women are pretty much the Achilles' heel of men's friendships. What about the rates of cancellation for rain or just laziness? Imo you'd still find "better" friendships with women, though. As you said it's every man for himself, much less so for women.

Shirley_Schmidthoe · 2021-04-13T13:14:45+00:00

emotional support

That's the word circlejerkers use for circlejerking, right?

WilliamWyattD · 2021-04-13T09:02:38+00:00

Agreed that women seem more likely to create an effective emotional support network than men. This is likely a multifactorial problem. However, I think the OP does not give enough weight to the unique difficulty men face in terms of offering emotional support. There is still a male gender expectation that males be outwardly emotionally strong in a way that is not expected of women.

This expectation is not necessarily all bad. It is undergirded by many things; however, chief among them is what women are actually attracted to. This puts some rather hard limits on male behavior in this area, and perhaps it should. Nonetheless, there definitely seems to be some room, even within these constraints, to re-tweak some of these expectations as well as male friendship behavior, for greater effectiveness in the 21st Century.

2021-04-13T19:17:07+00:00

As a man who was more bullied and ostracized by fellow men, I can concur. Other men tend to be more asshole-ish.

xFallacyx69 · 2021-04-13T12:14:00+00:00

Female friends definitely can be snakes to each other... I don’t see women have lasting relationships until they get older and realize the harms they’ve done to themselves by nexting all their female friends that didn’t want to stick around through the “my life sucks but it’s because everyone but me” phase that seems to plague a lot of young women
Men aren’t emotional with other men around women because we know women look down on men who show emotions no matter what. Guaranteed your bro friends have at least one instance of a woman telling him not to cry and “be a man” during a tragic life event of his. See “I want to be equal, except when the bill comes at dinner”
Men don’t use emotional support the same way women do. We get drunk and bitch to our bros about the girl that did us wrong, say “fuck that bitch”, and try to look for a better chick... women eat ice cream and cry with each other, then get their back blown out by a dude that doesn’t care about them
Somewhat related to 3... women don’t solely use the same-sex partners to get over breakups/divorce... if y’all did, dating would be a lot different. Post divorce Hoe phase is just a rebranding of getting a rebound. And women do are able to do it much easier than men. See “he’s just a friend”

ohheyhi99 · 2021-04-13T05:22:30+00:00

The proper response to hamfisted redpillers is nuance, not trying to match them in being hamfisted. Your second to last sentence is ridiculous even by PPD standards.

Not all of us men and our bros are your dad.

poppy_blu · 2021-04-13T08:59:19+00:00

Just two days ago a couple of men here were saying men don’t have friends because apparently men cannot make friends over a certain age, and wimminz have it easier so that’s why they have friends and men don’t.

If a man has no friends it’s not a gender issue, it’s a personal issue.

Everything is not a gender issue.

GrandRub · 2021-04-13T10:31:04+00:00

as a man ... i dont care for "emotional support" - but i love my male friends .. many of them are by my side for 20+ years.

BoogersAndSugar · 2021-04-13T20:02:51+00:00

The truth is usually somewhere in the middle. I don't buy into either extreme. Are women capable of genuine friendships? Yes, absolutely. And so are many guys.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-04-13T03:09:03+00:00

My personal experience shows overwhelmingly that men are better friends to each other than women are. Our friendship style is just different.

You believe what you want, but this seems like you just found some bs online to confirm your contrarian point when it's general consensus that men are better friends to each other, whereas women are fake as fuck and snakes.

Banned_BY_SOYMEN · 2021-04-13T06:17:12+00:00

I think women are generally more cooperative and open to each other, which allows them to enter and grow friendships pretty fast. The thing is though there's a lot of instability in these friendships. Two girls could be best friends for a handful of years, but some gossip goes around and they now hate each other and don't speak to each other again more or less.

Honestly, your "evidence" seems very cherry-picked also.

poppy_blu · 2021-04-13T06:03:38+00:00

I've had my 2 closest male friends for over 20 years and either one would help me hide a body at 3:00am and then lie to the police about it. I would do the same for them.

Your move.

pubgmisc · 2021-04-13T13:20:24+00:00

The thing is, men need their own groups to do things haha. Like hunting together, watching cars etc. Stuff like that. Emotional support, therapy for men is riding a motorcycle (for example)

2021-04-13T23:53:23+00:00

Anecdotally; I agree with the OP: I've been single throughout most of my 20's and the friends I turn to for emotional support are almost all women.

This has certain huuuge disadvantages though in that they'll give you advice that only works for women...

2021-04-14T15:20:13+00:00

I will have to ask my emotional support mountain lion, if any of this is true.

pillchangedmylife · 2021-04-15T01:28:08+00:00

My experience is women are disgusted by weakness.. aka opening up during conversation.

Therefore I can never let my guard down with a woman and get deep about my issues as she will loose her respect for me and the friendship descends into borderline abusive.

My male friends on the other hand are not disgusted by weakness and often help me or listen and share their own experiences.

Expensive-Guitar3609 · 2021-04-13T05:43:49+00:00

Go to the army, a police station or a group of rescue or firefighters. Plenty of guys there that would give their lives to save your sorry ass and their country's. You don't need to be even their friend, good guys are friends with everyone.

Granted, not all men are like THAT, but from all the creatures on Earth, men are the only ones capable of giving their lives to help a complete stranger.

Once you own your life to another man and you see the true good on his heart, the word "friendship" starts to sound stupid and superficial. The guy that saved my life is not my friend, he is my brother.

welcometothejl · 2021-04-13T10:31:29+00:00

So let me get this straight, men don't do enough to cultivate relationships which leaves them feeling isolated after a divorce. This is a problem that they created and because of this, they alone have to deal with it.

However, women don't work as much and therefore don't make as much money. This is a problem caused by a woman's choices, and after divorce, the man has to deal with it. Got it.

I can only give my own anecdotal account that post divorce I had support from family, friends, and coworkers. I was still miserable.

AidsVictim · 2021-04-13T05:46:04+00:00

If you're measuring by emotional support then yes men probably are worse friends than women, at least in the modern social paradigm. I don't mind supporting a bro when he's going through a tough time but I know dudes who are just constantly emotionally fragile, whiny, vocalize negative thoughts etc when they don't have a girlfriend and it gets extremely tiring. When I'm interacting with a friend I'm mostly looking forward to joking around and activity (sports/gaming) not listening to someone dump out their lifes problems (this is fine once in a while, it's frequency dependent) and being careful what you joke about lest it send them in to a mood. Conversely if you're looking for fun times men make much better friends than women, because women mostly just aren't very funny and get offended much more easily joking around and are typically more averse/less capable of engaging in male centered entertainment.

It seems odd however that a very common complaint I've read on this board is that men use women as emotional support, as if women aren't very often doing the same thing with their boyfriend and dumping their emotional baggage and social frustrations onto him. In fact most women typically try to pry some emotional turmoil out of their boyfriend because it makes them feel more connected. It's fairly hypocritical to complain about this, so why do they?

Expectations are gender asymmetric - men will get punished by both men and women for being too emotional and whiny (outside of acceptable circumstances). The best path for a man is to build a stoic personality capable of internally dealing with your own emotions, reaching out to close family or friends on occasions when the stress is too much. Don't bother listening to women (or men) who push for men to be emotionally open or convince you it's "toxic masculinity" their words aren't worth the wind they're carried on and in the end you only have yourself and maybe a handful of family or lifelong friends you can depend on.

ex_red_black_piller · 2021-04-13T08:05:05+00:00

> Men actually make shitty friends to each other and usually rely on women for any sort of intimacy or emotional support.

>The real reason men are devastated by divorce is that they lose all emotional and social connections.

No argument here.

However,

>Men have no real friends and it's every man for himself. Women's friendships are actually much more intimate.

From the link : The research found that one in ten men have no one to rely on for emotional support, compared to one in 20 women.

So it's 10% vs 5%. The difference isn't that stark.

Jakes1967 · 2021-04-13T05:54:01+00:00

Men actually make shitty friends to each other and usually rely on women for any sort of intimacy or emotional support.

This might have been the case, but it's definitely changing.

Us older farts have friendships as described, but today's youngmen have much more intense friendships. Basically they're following the bromance model, so their friendships are akin to those of women.

I've military friends, who I spent a few years with, who know me better than my wife of 3 decades.

Findings from this study support American research suggesting that women are more intimate and emotional in their same-sex friendships than men, and tend to place a higher value on these friendships than men do.

There's no suggesting, it's a known fact, well known by all men and known for centuries.

Men, in contrast to women, derived emotional support and therapeutic value more from their opposite-sex relationships than their same-sex friendships.

Another well known fact

Finally, more men than women stated they would not cancel an engagement with an opposite-sex friend in order to go out with a same-sex friend.

In the past definitely, in today's instant gratification society - yeah not. Today there are plenty of guys who, would instantly cancel their female plans to be with their male friends.

It also found that men are more likely to rely on their partner for support, while their female counterparts were more willing to talk to family and friends.

Another very well known fact, one of the reasons betrayal by the wife, is almost always fatal to the marriage.

And THIS is the real reason why so many men are devastated by divorce. It is not about money. It is actually the women who have more to lose by divorcing when it comes to finances.

Another well and commonly known fact.

Taken together, these findings suggest that men’s disproportionate strain of divorce is transient, whereas women’s is chronic.

These are all well known, although sometimes disputed facts.

Except where devastating alimony and child support are ordered, then suicide is much more likely.

Men have no real friends and it's every man for himself. Women's friendships are actually much more intimate.

Yet when the manosphere say all of the above, it's some sort of misogyny.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-04-13T06:52:42+00:00

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Barely-moral · 2021-04-13T04:09:51+00:00

Men actually make shitty friends to each other and usually rely on women for any sort of intimacy or emotional support.

Why would you ever rely on friends for intimacy or emotional support?

Why rely on friends for any reason that is not life threatening? Why place a burden on your friends unless it is strictly necessary?

My male friends are real friends because we don't usually place burdens on one another but if one of us asks for anything then we can count on each other for anything no matter the legality, the risk or anything else.

Male friendship can be resumed in the following: "I would sacrifice everything I have for you and I trust that you will be careful about if and when to ask for my help."

colgateexpert · 2021-04-13T07:50:29+00:00

If you define good friends by how much emotional support they give then sure. But you're forgetting something critical: most women are not entertaining. And entertainment is more important to a friendship than emotional support is

bjwindow2thesoul · 2021-04-13T10:16:38+00:00

Yes!! Its more taboo for men to talk about their feelings with each other and be intimate, so thats a huge reason why men often take many years to get over an ex

PurpleLightningart · 2021-04-13T14:36:48+00:00

Being a man with lots of sisters who have been around women my whole entire being, I definitely do not believe that women relationships are more genuine. I’m willing to bet the house on that

Forsaken-Version9706 · 2021-04-13T08:16:18+00:00

OMG such truth here, men make horrible friends to each other, its just an endless pissing contest.

Thats why they need women, for care, emotions and sex. My ex (after we broke up) said he was depressed and I was like therapy works and he was like but I have you.

With his male friends they would piss on each other, show off, jokingly insult and lift weights.

Thats why they love vlogs and podcasts, its fake friendship without any vulnerability.

SteveSan82 · 2021-04-13T06:27:09+00:00

Women have friends? Thanks for the laugh

2021-04-13T13:41:17+00:00

No, it's not that male friendship is this super magical thing. It's that male friendship is GENUINE and REAL. It is based on respect and mutual interests and some affinity. You always know exactly where you stand with men.

It's also that we see women drag and shittalk their female friends all over the place. And that's how you treat your friends. Or "friends". You never know where you stand with a woman. It could change literally from one minute to the next.

No, the real reason men are devastated by divorce is because most of them end up living in their cars for a while. The real reason most men are devastated by divorce is because they don't get to see or live with their kids or influence their upbringing. Contrary to your belief, men actually care about their kids.

I work at a job that is stressful and taxing, and I do it for the children I love. My dad did the same thing. His dad did the same thing. It's what men do. You'll NEVER understand this. NEVER. If I had no children, there's no fucking way I'd be here. I'd be poolside, sipping Mai Tais and imitating Nero.

Frosty-Gate-8094 · 2021-04-13T08:17:08+00:00

https://www.nypost.com/2017/10/12/how-bromances-are-threatening-heterosexual-relationships/amp/

You are factually wrong. Men are preferring male friendships to the point, that actually threatens heterosexual relationships.

Men-men friendships are bad is an obsolete notion to keep men from having them in the first place.

SaBahRub · 2021-04-13T02:54:47+00:00

Mair, why do you pull out some retarded "reee search" when people can see stuff clearly IRL? What is this "soyends" you're linking here?

Males, men especially are best friends, and females, women are best friends. Everything else is either bluepilled conditioning or some feminazi propaganda posing as research. We're not stupid. Stop it.

2021-04-13T17:18:12+00:00

It is funny that you cannot understand why your studies and metrics are flawed.

Oh well.

michael1962-01 · 2021-04-13T09:31:26+00:00

Any man needing "emotional support" is not a grown up man.

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Matt_Door · 2021-04-13T13:00:46+00:00

It’s fine to me that men and women get different things or value their friendships differently. I get a lot out of sharing a common experience and building bonds on those shared experiences, and don’t require as much direct emotional support. My closest friends and I can still confide in one another if something is bothering them, we just don’t that much, and that’s totally fine. The value is in the supporting each other through shared adversity and making a stronger bond.

Basically, go read the St. Crispin’s Day speech in Henry V.

2021-04-13T19:25:14+00:00

The first study is surveys. Are you aware because it has "study" doesn't make it some all knowing paper?

HannibalsProtege · 2021-04-13T19:57:55+00:00

Your assumption of using outdated material is highly abundant given that your opinion is formed from a study (meaning that concrete data has NOT been included but introduces more anecdotal evidence) as opposed to factual material.

On a more personal note my two best male friends that I've known since 2nd and 6th grade respectively (circa '90 & '96) could put to rest this claim.

RisingFenix69 · 2021-04-13T21:05:28+00:00

Bluepillers don't know anything about male friends and what hanging around men is like. Bluepills are all willing to stab each other in the back for a chance at getting vagina, and they believe in stupid ideas that will sabotage their male friends relationships.

Some people have killed mens spaces and invaded them. You have to become a man of value and then find others to grow with and trust. I get emotional support from male friends who are older and have more experience, they give me male advice.

These studies are done in sex starved blue pill betas.

sfctapia007 · 2021-04-13T22:46:36+00:00

Ya Good Drinking Bro's absolutely hate each other out camping and hanging out in the bar or mancave. You GO Girl.

KaskyNightblade · 2021-04-14T02:39:13+00:00

Hard disagree, from my personal experience. I have a bunch of good friends, all male, I know them from 10+ years ago. I would die for them and know they would die for me. Male friendship is based on respect, we don't burden each other with our emotional problems unless is absolutely necessary.

Workaholiconew · 2021-04-14T23:40:29+00:00

Depends on what you define as friendships.

We know all too well that resources are limited, relationships are transactional in nature (including friendships) and that our social nature is rather weak (needing something like an activity to make us actually be together, instead of being social for socialization's sake).

It is a mistake to confuse these features as proofs of anything. We will not behave otherwise, we know how the world is, and the last thing we want is creating problems to our loved ones.

And yes, we are a failure of a society in which men are needing to use women as emotional support. Instead of acquiring the services they actually need from women, sex, and acquiring everything else from a better source, male friends. But a failure is just that, a failure.

One we should be worried in fixing.

Ginger457 · 2021-04-22T02:53:51+00:00

It's funny, the whole "women hate each other" meme is something I've only encountered IRL coming from the mouth of women. I can't speak to it's truth, but women I've dated swear by it. Maybe it's just the tomboy types I find attractive.

But if you're talking about the two-chads meme, beyond the teenage level joke of "We see woman as being really basic," I see it as a response to a) seeing older male relatives be alone in the world aside from their spouse and wanting to be better. and b) being the single friend and wondering whether your friends would abandon you in a crisis in favor of their newfound girlfriends. Bros before hoes and all that.

I don't think it's any secret that us men are shit at keeping social relationships going, but also I think that we have a lower requirement for those relationships to be maintained as valuable. My two closest friends, I met 10 years ago in high school, we talk online once every couple of weeks now that we live in different cities and have different interests, but I still consider them to be the closest bonds I've had with any two people in my life and I'd bleed for them if push came to shove.

CMV: It is a total myth that male friendship is "real friendship" and that women aren't good friends to each other. There is actually evidence that the opposite might be the case: Men are not good friends to each other and usually rely on women for emotional support

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