RedPill women who used to be on the “liberal” sides, what made you open your eyes?

Therandomderpdude · 2023-08-15T15:07:28+00:00

I started to educate myself on several aspects of society and different political views.

The liberal side of things just really escalated into something absurd.

As a bisexual woman I no longer felt welcome in the LGBTQ+ community. It felt like an entire joke. Like people would show up half naked in highly suggestive leather lingerie at pride events where children are also attending. It felt wrong. Like arent pride events all about the celebration of love? Not sexuality and kinks.

Not to mention the drag events. Sure it’s fun to dress up and perform, and it’s very creative and fun for many people.

But to invite children while doing sexual dances and wearing revealing clothes makes me question the motives of these events and activities. I believe we should stick to only allowing adults to join these events.

The liberal side keep pushing kids into these groups and ideologies. Which I believe is very inappropriate.

I also no longer felt that feminism empowered women at all. I felt the opposite, all my life I was told my feminine traits were bad. That I had to toughen up and man up to achieve anything in life. This was portrayed in movies and tv series as well.

This was told to me by women, not men.

Also the aggressive attitude towards men felt incredibly wrong and misleading to the “equal rights” justice they keep insisting to fight for.

I felt lost and out of touch with my femininity. I was so fixated on identity and having a label. For a long time I didn’t know the strengths of women and men in society. I believed female traits were weak.

Now I understand that men and women balance out eachother in society. We have different and unique strengths and weaknesses that makes society stronger if we work together instead of against eachother. Hating on eachother while also desperately seeking out eachother.

Not to mention the identity/trans issue amongst children and teens who doesn’t feel comfortable with their assigned gender at birth. The endless count of gender pronouns that exists are absurd.

Yes, queer and non confirming genders have always been here, but I refuse to believe that it is the cause of awareness that has made so many young people to realize this about themselves.

I believe that it’s totally valid to be a masculine woman or a feminine man, you don’t need to put a: bi-gender, gender fluid, label on yourself to be valid.

To me it feels like the mental health system have failed to help people, or a societal problem as a whole. The increase in mental illness among young people are also incredibly high, not to mention they are chronically online which exposes them to this type of media.

The media and the liberal side of things, in my opinion is pushing this narrative on young people who are trying to figure out their place in the world. Offering them love and acceptance in a community.

Wife_and_Mama · 2023-08-15T12:04:49+00:00

I don't know that I ever called myself a feminist, but I did work in a liberal industry and was surrounded by Strong Independent Women when I got divorced at 23. I had a lot of liberal friends as well. I think the thing that really kept me from going down that path was just looking at their lives and relationships. The women all seemed exhausted and talked constantly about how they had to do everything for their very beta husbands. The power balance was off, but they couldn't correct it, because the only way to get their husbands to show any initiative was to nag them. Even then, they had such demanding expectations that the tasks couldn't be done correctly. They were always disappointed and felt they had to redo everything. This extended to everything from making appointments to doing dishes to parenting. It just looked awful.

Edit: I use beta to describe a man who isn't especially assertive, doesn't take initiative, needs a lot of instructions and hand-holding to accomplish anything.

Mommy_Koala · 2023-08-15T13:56:04+00:00

A series of events:

Spending a decade climbing the corporate ladder, mentored by strong, independent and driven woman I admired. Only to have my loyalty and “commitment to the business” constantly questioned the second I became pregnant.

Seeing a picture of my embryo prior to my IVF egg transfer and realizing that’s what a “clump of cells” really is.

Being called a “racist” anytime I questioned the policies of a black president I voted for twice.

Watching my husband, a small business owner, get audited by the IRS.

Hearing the term “chest feeders” come out of a lactation-consultant’s mouth.

The 2016 Democratic National Convention and “it’s her time”

Funny_Garage3895 · 2023-08-15T13:45:59+00:00

Someone calling me a Cis-woman rather than just a women
Someone saying birthing person rather than a mother
Watching shows like Fresh and Fit and hearing how delusional the women are (dont agree with a lot of the mens view but the womens ignorance was crazy
Realising I was happy to give some control to my partner rather than trying to do everything myself
Becoming a mum and Realising I need a man I can rely on rather than trying to take on everything because I cant trust my partner
I made more money and was smarter than my exs. I paid for everything, I made the decisions, I had to think of everything. One cheated and lied to me. One became abusive, another just became lazy and obsessed with me to try get me to stay

m_owom · 2023-08-15T12:05:52+00:00

My brained finished developing by the age of 25.

No but really, I quit my job when I was pregnant with my son and was just staying home. I was able to really just relax and focus solely on my home life, while also being more vulnerable and in need of accommodation than ever before and I think these factors combined made me feel really tapped into my feminine energy, I guess you could say. And it was nice to take a step back and have a capable man to rely on. I think for me it kind of snowballed from there and I began more concously exploring this viewpoint.

Huge_Scientist1506 · 2023-08-15T11:46:36+00:00

The whole gender identity issue really snapped me into reality. I could no longer consider myself part of a side that denies biological reality.

as well as the sudden “pro sex work” movement by the left.

worldlysentiments · 2023-08-15T20:32:39+00:00

This is a hard stop for me because, for one, I am definitely liberal in my politics, progressive even, and in my life. Lol I don’t necessarily denounce feminism, I get that rp is essentially anti feminist but I guess that also depends on your interpretation of feminism and it’s applications.

I’m also a therapist, I’m highly educated on a lot of topics that typically conservative, rp communities are either against or not necessarily well educated on (human sexuality, gender, etc) so I think that broadens my perspective. I don’t really have any friends who are conservative in most natures because we just don’t jive.

I would hate to say I’m “libertarian” lol in my ways, because they have wrecked the internet but I think I operate on that level. Like a “do whatever so as long as you aren’t hurting people, and I would like the gov to like stop doing dumb crap”. Lol If that makes sense.

I think also there is some privilege in living a “traditional” way in 2023. For instance my parents could never have a stay at home parent. My dad has a great job in a needed field and in todays age and economics it would be impossible for my mom to not work and them to stay afloat. I don’t think our society or corporations or anything have done anything of benefit to allow for one income households. So knowing my husband makes a good enough salary for me to not work is a privilege I’m aware of.

Legal-Negotiation-12 · 2023-08-16T03:28:30+00:00

Trauma.

I’m a black female + there’s lots of hypermasculine women in my culture that kind of promote the independent lifestyle and the “I don’t need no man” mentality. I understood it and I always will, but on the flip side, I saw many women (friends and family alike) who were doing everything by themselves and it simply wasn’t fair. I didn’t like seeing it and it always broke my heart.

On the flip side, I stayed away from Red Pill mentality for a long time because I thought that they blamed women’s oppression on feminism, and not male violence. My personal lineage (like most people) reflects women who were in horrific domestic situations and could not escape because of a lack of resources, lack of money, or lack of a place to go. However, other women helped them survive. (And yes, it was notably always women. Unfortunately, the men usually didn’t want to get involved or upset the other man.)

I think it’s nice to see— to FULLY see— that now, when women have options to choose to be independent or not, many will actually opt for a relationship with a man who will love them and help them in life. I entered my traditional relationship after experiencing some abuse from my more “liberal” decisions and they left me in utter disarray. Many things that are promoted in those liberal groups now are so detrimental to women and children AND men that I oftentimes remove myself from those environments. They scare me. People assume I’m liberal because I’m a minority but I am usually quieter about these things because I know what I care about, what matters to me, and because I am honestly content (moreso elated) with the trust and commitment that I have with my boyfriend (Eastern European).

Also, he said this to me when we first started dating and it has stayed with me ever since:

“I see the girls in this country get dressed up to go to the clubs with their friends. They parade the streets and they get drunk. One friend records them shouting songs and men look at their bodies and their friends encourage their dancing. But who is paying attention to those girls when they get home and when they get lonely? They only care about the girls when they’re half naked and inebriated. “It is the fault of men who convince women that these places make them free.”

I stopped dating those men and I really started thinking about my own values. They align with a lot of traditional ones and I am much more content than I ever have been.

Also: the women on this side are nicer 😭 I’m sorry but I have seen far too much insane and uncivil behavior on the other side that I just can’t!!!!

liongoddess444 · 2023-08-16T03:52:43+00:00

how toxic liberals are: cancel culture on all opinions different from their own, shaming them and putting them down, yet claim that they are advocates for love and equality. no self awareness of the hypocrisy. blindly follow what the majority believe in. performative activism. etc etc. also liberals are filled with the “all men suck” and “I hate men” people

Drowned-star · 2023-08-15T08:07:15+00:00

I realised the way I treated my husband was emasculating. Lookrd at the reasons why he cheated on me etc. I realised how it made him feel and how I was so badly contributing to it

LiteratureOk7716 · 2023-08-15T08:57:33+00:00

I still do have liberal ideas - I do not want the state to dictate what I can and can't do with my body regarding pregnancy. I value being having the choice of working outside the home. Further, I want all these (and more) privileges for our daughter as well.

It doesn't help that the conservatives here (in Britain) are bigoted, classist, etc. and both my Dutch/Moroccan husband and I -- Filipina-American -- are immigrants to the UK (hopefully the "good" kind, but the definition of "good" seems ever changing here, so one can never be sure).

As for my views on feminism, yes, I'm a feminist, I wouldn't be working if I wasn't. My husband also believes that both women and men should be able to pursue their dreams to the best of their ability.

However, behind closed doors, I choose to be submissive. The word choose is key to my view on feminism. I'm not forced to be submissive by society -- I choose it, Likewise, society doesn't force me to paint my nails or wear high heeled sandals -- I choose to do so.

ModernCoquette · 2023-08-15T13:36:53+00:00

I struggle to identify with RedPill for the same reason I don't identify as a feminist, these terms feel like they've been hijacked by extremism and have lost the fundamental purpose they had at inception. However, I do believe there is some value in both sides. I enjoy being apart of this subreddit because it helps me understand my inner femininity and reminds me of the personal growth work I still have ahead of me. I am here because my womanhood is a strength, not a weakness. Furthermore, even though I am still working through some of the horrendous things done to me by men, I can also clearly see that there is an attack on masculinity happening in today's world. The gender war is how I initially took steps toward the RedPill (even though I do consider myself purple).

Knowyourdeductible · 2023-08-15T15:22:38+00:00

Looking at every “independent woman” in my mother’s generation and realizing that 80% of “career women” cannot afford to divorce they are STILL dependent but like to think of themselves as independent. Their lives just got harder. They are super stressed and out of shape and short on patience. The house wife is the happiest woman. Even if she wants to start a business at home she can do it her way. A corporation will never give you the space to be Queen, unless you own it!

Charming-Paper-1564 · 2023-08-15T12:19:11+00:00

Wonderful question!

I was once very liberal. but about 10 years ago i had an eye opening expierence and I've done lots of soul searching and researching and i came to this side because i found that the other side wasnt really in the business of (1 self improvement, 2 problem solving. And in fact some of the people inpaticular just wanted to victim blame and escape accountability ( like most women in their early 20s do). also the bullying from most of my peers didnt help either, it just pushed me further right. that doesnt get you anywhere in life. and i grew tired of this constant narrative how the other side is so bad so i listened to a few podcasts, tons of literature, listened to other perspectives and now can say with absolute certainty that i made the correct choice to allign myself with more traditional values ( that was also ingrained in me by my grandmother from an early age thank god she saved me from a lifetime of lonliness. I've always wanted to get married and have kids and i nearly settled for a future without one.. so glad i had the realization before it was too late.

darkksuns · 2023-08-15T12:51:03+00:00

honestly, about 5-6 months ago i would have said i was a hardcore feminist, leftist, and liberal. but that all dramatically changed when i had a conversation with my best friend and we were talking about andrew tate and “traditional couples.” while he was just trying to have a conversation with me, i got defensive and argued against his own thoughts. he probed me with questions where i used my ‘feminist knowledge’ to answer and ofc those answers made no sense (aka would you rather date someone who’s rich or poor when they have the same personality and i would say poor because money didn’t matter). after the call, i was angry, but thought about the conversation and realized that he was right. how could i want ‘princess treatment’ but not act like a princess (want a traditional/chivalrous man without actually being traditional myself). that was my turning point and since then, i have rejected modern feminism and been more in tune with my actual desires.

i am forever grateful for this man, he’s not only changed my view points for the better, but also made me more confident, which is something feminism never did for me. and brought me closer to God, so i appreciate him greatly.

countrylemon · 2023-08-15T13:56:00+00:00

a couple of things:

I’m bisexual, and the LGBTQ+ community here ostracized me and other bi folk during an event and it was a “wtf isn’t this canada” moment, the alphabet politics destroyed that community
Cost of living, I watched as it became impossible to live the dream life and I had to make hard and fast decisions to protect myself, within this process I learned it’s better for me to be supported by (and work with) my husband in his company, we eliminated a car, the “strong independent woman who don’t need no man” thing is bullshit, nothing wrong with relying on someone. just gotta be smart.
BLM, one of my bestfriends is a black female immigrant and she’s been very eye opening to talk to, showed me how fake a ton of it is and how little actually is done for black women
Feminism, peak 2016 feminism chaos, I started getting passive aggressive insults from other women when it came to my choice in living or when I refused to make “hate all men” comments
Relationship expectations similar to feminism in the sense that the way my female friends wanted to operate in relationships was far away from how I believed a healthy relationship should work (thanks Mom, your love life was a great example of what not to do)
Justin Trudeau, the liberal leader has pushed me so far to the other side idk when Id ever vote left the rest of my life and I’ve voted for both green and ndp in the past. “half of my cabinet is women… because insert current year” he uses women and makes a mockery out of us. Disgusting vile man.

Drowned-star · 2023-08-15T14:57:03+00:00

How unhappy I was consistently.

notsonike · 2023-08-15T15:40:53+00:00

I (28F) was raised in a liberal family, they all work in arts and/or music and I was raised by feminists and liberals. My dad was my role model because my mom passed away at a young age. (English is not my main language, sorry in advance). I don’t have any siblings and I was a tomboy in high school. I behaved the same as my dad, swearing and being blunt and loud (alcoholic and borderliner). This has changed over the years but overal I wasn’t connected with my feminine energy because I didn’t know of it’s existence? Till 3 years ago I believed man and woman are the same and deserve to be treated the same. When I met my partner (36M) I felt very different compared to my ex partners. He is masculine, in control of his emotions, good with communication, a protector and provider. For the first time I felt emotionally safe and wanted to let go of things. He taught me everything red pill related. At first I was defensive about all the subjects other commenters have mentioned. But I started realizing he was right and I started reading/listening more about man/woman, masculinity/femininity and anything red pill related. I honestly love this sub because of all the different stories I can read from others. I can relate to a lot even though I have a very liberal background.

Jewelry_lover · 2023-08-15T13:45:01+00:00

Post BLM. Mistakenly stumbled on Candace owens video and could unsee it, her video make too much sense I couldn’t even counter her arguments. I went down a rabit hole on conservative YouTubers, I couldn’t stop watching.

There was no way I could go back to living my liberal best life after watching those videos. Then I discovered Thomas Sowell and that was the last straw for me. That changed my life. I realised the fundamental principles of human nature. Why things were the way the are, why men are women are different and is stopped forcing myself to see things how they should be and instead accept them for what they are. I became a PRO capitalist.

I still hold some liberal values. As much as the left has gone extreme with their views, conservatives tend to see things in black and white as well (though not as much as the left). I still believe in a woman choice to control what goes on in her body, women should have freedoms to work, etc. I’d call my self a libertarian though I lean right on the grand scheme of things.

Fae_Leaf · 2023-08-15T16:37:47+00:00

I've never been a strong feminist because I've never aligned with any of the garbage they spew about all men being rapists or how every little thing a man does that you dislike is sexual assault. I actually had far more male friends than female friends growing up, so I knew first-hand that most men actually just aren't rapists or horrible. And I recognized how dangerous it was to convince women that they're constantly being sexual harassed or assaulted and that they need to be expecting all of these outrageous things from men before even considering them. The whole thing felt toxic and malicious.

That being said, I grew up with a single mother who worked 2-3 jobs at a time and would be considered your classic Strong Independent Woman. I admire her for how hard she's willing to work and for where she is now in her life (the vice president of a company making $140k a year), but I can see the toll it's taken on her. She's one of the most high-strung and stressed out people I have ever known in my life, and she's permanently exhausted and suffering from health issues from being in a constant state of maximum stress. I've never wanted that life at any point, though I'm not afraid to put in hard work and make ends meet if I must. I consider myself a strong and independent woman mainly because I have the work ethic and responsible personality to make things work even when I'm dealt a bad hand. But I also felt that it was normal and right for men and women to be 50/50 on everything, both in responsibilities, finances, and workload.

But I did get the opportunity to date an extremely wealthy guy for about a year. Our relationship was toxic, and part of it was me being immature and definitely not at all a surrendered/RP woman. But we also just weren't really personality-compatible in the long-run. That being said, I got a taste of what it could be like for a man to take care of you while you're a trophy wife (girlfriend in this case). The mental relief was amazing, and it felt wonderful to be in that role. I do still believe the relationship should have close to a 50/50 split as far as input from both sides, but it does not need to be 50/50 for every category. If the man is 100% of the financial supporter, but the woman is 100% of the housekeeping, that's still an even amount of energy going into their lives and well-being.

Combine my experience with the rich guy with my dream of working on a homestead, and it was easy to look at more traditional/vintage households and be envious of those times. The times where a wife was taking care of the kids, prepping lots of food, and tending to a garden and animals, while the husband was working to make money and coming up in the evening to his loving wife, excited kids, and wonderful dinner. When the nuclear family was the norm and gender roles weren't considered sexist and degrading. All I wanted was to be a delicate housewife in a linen dress taking care of our children, growing and raising amazing food, preparing delicious meals for the family, and turning our house into a home. And to be a devoted wife that can give my man everything he could ever ask for.

So I've always wanted to be married with kids, but I didn't realize that I don't actually want to be working my butt off the way a man does. At least, not at a 9-5 job. I want to put my energy and work ethic into building our family and nurturing it. And learning more and more about the psychology behind how much more mentally exhausted women get when we have tons and tons of responsibilities like finances and making 17 decisions a day, while men are empowered by it, has been really interesting. A lot of dots connected, and I feel like I'm empowered by understanding it now.

Ruffleafewfeathers · 2023-08-15T17:52:28+00:00

So I am still somewhat politically liberal, but the way I live my life is very traditional. I was “raised” (I put quotation marks because I was actually raised by a daycare) by a hyper feminist mother who always chose work over her children (it was a choice, not out of necessity) who basically brainwashed me my whole life to believe that men are a problem, women need to be in positions of power, that I needed to “break the glass ceiling”, that femininity was stupid, that SAHMs are foolish, etc. etc. She’s a generally miserable person to be around (particularly, as I was her favorite emotional punching bag).

I was always top of my class in school and in every job I had I rose up through the ranks quickly, but I basically worked myself to death. I had an epiphany one day when a new friend I had made (now one of my best friends) told me she was planning on moving to Spain to farm lavender…it was the first time I had ever even considered the possibility that you could just live life to be happy, that I might not owe the world “greatness” if it didn’t bring me any joy.

Many years of unraveling my conditioning later, I no longer speak to my mother, I am a SAHM to a wonderful little girl with the husband of my dreams. We are working our way towards a more lux lifestyle at the moment with my husband at the helm and me keeping the ship in order, and I have never been happier.

kitterkatty · 2023-08-15T18:03:05+00:00

I go back and forth all the time and read all the sides. I was raised in a conservative cult and tbh it wasn’t all bad. People are the same everywhere and structure is kinda good. As long as people can leave if there’s abuse. My definition of beta is just a follower. One time one of the husbands of the ladies in the church got drunk and came looking for a fight. Only two guys confronted him and calmed him down the rest shut themselves in a tiny room and prayed while their families were left sitting there scared. So that was the dividing line. And those two guys who calmed the guy down weren’t leaders and didn’t have much obvious power in the community they were just the real ones. Steady, dependable, no ego.

alittlebitburningman · 2023-08-15T13:29:29+00:00

My dad passed away during the height of Covid lockdowns and we were denied access to him in the hospital. I watched his anointing of the sick on FaceTime. This changed my world view in a way that I can’t greatly explain, but so much for the better. I love who I am today and consider this new vision the last gift my father bestowed upon me.

2023-08-15T15:40:05+00:00

I don’t know if I was ever super liberal, but I definitely defended liberal ideas and was very “go with the flow” when speaking about politics or values because i was scared to offend anyone and honestly scared of any pushback. I became a lot more conservative when I met my husband and shockingly not because he’s all that conservative.

He is however a questioner which I had never been. He always asks big questions, always wants to learn new things about the world and people. (One of the things about him i admire most!) He has showed me that it’s ok to question the world around me and has really given me the confidence to do so; to learn new things and to be wrong and to ask those big questions I’d always avoided.

I was content being a sheep because it was safe and easy, but it was also intellectually and morally lazy of me to not seek after the Truth. I’m still a work in progress, but these past years have been really eye opening for me.

DunboyCastleInTheSky · 2023-08-15T16:44:05+00:00

Realizing I’d either be alone for the rest of my life or have to support a man to keep one.

Shaiziin · 2023-08-15T23:14:42+00:00

I'm a single 30F. My eyes opened when a few things happened:

It was midst pandemic and Dems were preaching masking/social distancing, yet hypocritics like AOC were partying maskless in FL.
It was midst pandemic and my funds plummeted. I began entertaining the idea of being a "well-kept woman" as a method of survival. Started studying the ideologies of provider men and realized their beliefs made sense.
Stopped supporting the "TQ" part of LGBTQ once i realized they were selling lies and targeting children (i got much love for the LGB still).
I realized the only reason i supported abortion (outside of rape/incest) was because i personally was too financially broke to care for a child, and i feared diving face-first into poverty if i were to procreate. My reasoning was selfish. How could i avoid this situation? Well for starters, i could refuse to sleep with any man who makes less than six figures. That way it won't matter whether an accidental pregnancy occurs; he can support the child easily.

Beta simply means whatever is second to Alpha. I don't follow all of that terminology nonsense lol.

PsychoticNurse · 2023-08-15T14:16:59+00:00

When I was in my 20s, I was pretty liberal. It wasn't just one thing that opened my eyes, it was a lot of different things, over several years, that opened my eyes.

For one, when I realized they really don't care about women. They don't encourage women to be safe. They always tell men don't rape. Well, the men who won't ever rape a woman don't have to be told not to do it. They never tell women, be careful. Don't go to a man's house or let him into yours unless you really know him. They never tell women wait to sleep with a man, or never ever get drunk around men you don't know (like at a party).

Liberals never encourage women to stand up for themselves with men. For example, if you want marriage, tell the man that you will leave him if he doesn't want to be married. They tell women it's cool to just be a hook up buddy, or to just live with a man without the commitment of marriage. Liberals make women who want marriage/family look demanding and unreasonable, and discourage women from demanding respect from men or clearly stating what you want from a man. If you feel it's not appropriate for your boyfriend/husband to have female friends, libs will tell you that you're the unreasonable one. I guess that's why they always say feminism is for men too, since men who are crappy actually have it good with these types of women.

They encourage and celebrate the murder of unborn babies. Having babies is the one thing we can do that men can never do, and that should be respected and held highly. They not only encourage abortion, they will verbally or even physically attack women who don't agree with it. Liberals make it appear that you can either have a family or a career, not both. Even though men can do both, and they always say we can do anything men can do. As a side note, the people at work who have encouraged me to apply for promotions or to better myself has been mostly men, not my fellow women.

And finally, the trans thing. I won't say too much about that, but I don't agree with allowing biological men into women's spaces. If you say that, they accuse you of being transphobic and even try to get you fired from your job. Questioning this is not the same as hating anyone, and they don't understand that.

Oh man, I can keep going but I'll stop here lol. There are so many things that made me realize liberalism is truly a mental illness.

Forsaken-Savings4370 · 2023-08-15T19:31:53+00:00

I didn’t like the identity politics, victim hood, denial of biological facts, changing meaning of English speaking words including ones that have serious implications that start with P, pro-abortion, pro-sex movement to the point where it’s impacting children, and break down of family values in America by the democratic government.

I would say my boyfriend woke me up to all this but at the same time I grew up with a conservative mother and a two parent religious home. So once I moved away from the city… it was honestly bound to happen.

I think men of all shapes and size sadly can fit the “Beta” description especially in American culture where we see a break down of what a man is or should be. Again, I came from a religious home so my morals surrounding this is how does a man lead a household as a strong god fearing individual who has a strong connection to their sense of purpose that cannot be rocked by anyone let alone an overbearing wife who can yell louder and have the “pants” in the marriage. So to me… a Beta is really a purposeless man who is easily tainted by the enemy or the devils tricks.

LoveWitchXo · 2023-08-15T21:05:56+00:00

I don’t like the “independent” mindset because my dream has always been to be a SAHM. I want to be a mother and wife. Those are the two most important things for me in my life. I do not care about having a career or my own business or whatever. I do however want to be an author possibly but it doesn’t matter to me if that happens. I like embracing my feminity. I like being girly. Nowadays that is looked down upon. I want a male led relationship where I feel secure and safe. I think feminism has led women astray in many aspects it’s no longer about “equality” it’s about hating men in all ways.

lifelonglistener · 2023-08-16T00:34:56+00:00

Feminism is not a monolith. Liberalism is not a monolith. Conservatism and traditionalism are not monoliths. We do ourselves a disservice when we engage in lazy thinking and throw wild generalizations around. Most of us want similar things. Most of us are reasonable. There are extremists in every movement. There are those who benefit by wedging us apart and inciting an "us" versus "them" mentality. Don't fall for it. That said, it is interesting to me how the folks here do seem to represent lots of different perspectives. I'm here because redpill saved my marriage - it is what works for my husband and me. Plain and simple.

SquirrelofLIL · 2023-11-07T15:48:35+00:00

My prole Asian mother raised me communist style feminist and dressed me in D2 Discount and ABC discount. She told me academic achievement first and then marriage will come.

Sadly, she still believes this and we live in the VHCOL, most harsh dating market in America. Fortunately I rebelled against going to graduate school because men don't like women with grad degrees unless they're a sugar mama.

Then I read the column Sex and the City in the New York Observer and saw how nicely other people, dressed.

I watched MTV and the top artists of my generation were Madonna and Lil Kim, so I took after them and rejected the feminism. Moreover even male stars like Prince and David Bowie were stylish.

That's what broke me out of my feminism and I started taking vogue magazine seriously and look for copies of the brand name clothes at Rainbow and Shein.

However now that I'm old and back in the dating market the game has changed so I'm trying to learn.

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transitive_isotoxal · 2023-08-16T02:55:54+00:00

I befriended a mathematician when I was fresh out of college (after minoring in gender studies btw), who systematically broke down the logical errors in how I was thinking. Many conversations ended in me crying. I wish he was gentler and more patient but I'm still grateful to be deprogrammed.

Edit: for me, beta is a sort of light hearted term for men who are less competitive and greedy/ambitious. Who are just happy with what is available to them. Including social norms.

Simple_Basket_8224 · 2023-08-21T05:00:51+00:00

I observed the women in my life and their relationships. I also dated a man who was very “beta” and am now with someone the exact opposite.

Most women I knew seemed very unhappy and not truly in love with their partners. While I saw how their partners contributed to the issue I also saw how the women were behaving and how it contributed. My mother was never affectionate with her husband, (my stepdad). My grandma often belittled my grandpa and didn’t show true appreciation. I saw how these small instances gradually chipped away at the men. For my mother it made it so the relationship ended in divorce but in my grandparents, it made it so my grandpa, behind closed doors would tell me to never marry someone like my grandma.

I loved my mother and my grandmother but it definitely made me see how women contribute more to their relationships problems than they realize and they often seem to lack self-awareness. Partially it’s because when they ask other people for advice people ALWAYS take the woman’s side and never are truly honest with her.

I also read a lot on Gottman and his theories of relationships and one of things that stuck out to me most was that happiest couples turn towards each other most often. I realized that women, including myself often “turned away” from our men through showing complete lack of interest in their personal hobbies, rejecting sex, etc. I read a lot on relationships and theories because I really really wanted a happy one for myself. All of that has honestly led me to believe that red pill women has one of the sane views of relationships and of men.

This has all been very affirming to me when I then actually practiced these things and now am in the healthiest, happiest relationship I’ve ever been in. My man loves me unconditionally, he takes care of me, he showers me with affection, he actually only has eyes for me, he’s intelligent and successful. And most of all, this man absolutely adores me. I truly believe a huge reason is because I practice these principles which results in him feeling truly loved and seen.

Title	RedPill women who used to be on the “liberal” sides, what made you open your eyes?
Author	Drowned-star
Upvotes	56
Comments	144
Date	August 15, 2023 7:45 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/15rlutt/redpill_women_who_used_to_be_on_the_liberal_sides/
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