All this crap about “WoMeN’s RiGhTs” but Kamala+Liz Cheney will get all our sons, brothers, fathers etc…involved in endless wars

63daddy · 2024-11-05T15:30:38+00:00

While I think democrats have overall embraced feminist identity politics more than republicans, some of the loudest opposition to having women equally register with selective service came from republicans.

mhk23 · 2024-11-05T15:08:08+00:00

Women want the rights of men, privileges of being a woman and the accountability of children.

Suitable_Tomatillo59 · 2024-11-05T14:22:44+00:00

Yeah it’s the fact that Feminists want to be seen as strong and capable but still want men to do all the dirty work for them

ZeElessarTelcontar · 2024-11-05T15:18:30+00:00

I agree with you but this is every POTUS since 9/11. Neither Trump nor Biden "started" a new war during their tenure, but they sure continued the ones started by Bush and Obama.

gmnotyet · 2024-11-05T14:31:12+00:00

Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings

https://qz.com/967895/throughout-history-women-rulers-were-more-likely-to-wage-war-than-men

Extreme_Spread9636 · 2024-11-05T15:32:19+00:00

Who said that we were fighting? Not my war.

poopyroadtrip · 2024-11-05T15:22:27+00:00

I signed up to this sub because of very real men’s mental health issues and attacks on men. Not this /r/conservative trash.

Longjumping_Gain_807 · 2024-11-05T21:00:59+00:00

I once was told by a lady at a Holocaust memorial museum that she believed that if women were leaders everywhere there would be no more war. Because women would not want to send their sons and brothers off into war. I guess that changed huh

C20H25N3O-C21H30O2 · 2024-11-05T22:05:30+00:00

To them men are expendable, not worthy of giving a crap about.

Opening-Scar-8796 · 2024-11-05T22:14:27+00:00

What Harris does well is she is staying pretty neutral about shaming men. It’s the democrats as a whole that has men shaming ads.

No_Entertainment2934 · 2024-11-05T23:45:12+00:00

Have you guys SEEN those ads the Harris campaign scrambled together last minute to appeal to 'angry young white men'?

The comment sections were full of different versions of 'These are all failed gay actors pretending to be straight'.

Like, fuck me dude, you can't even blatantly pander properly.

m8ushido · 2024-11-05T14:57:55+00:00

As apposed to the other guy that will just give up top secret intel and let Americans get killed as a bunch of secret info sits in a bathroom. The other side would sell the whole US out for a happy meal and another mail order bride

almostaarp · 2024-11-05T16:36:15+00:00

This is so far off base it has to be trolling.

Perfect_Sir4820 · 2024-11-05T15:25:00+00:00

...but Kamala+Liz Cheney will get all our sons, brothers, fathers etc…involved in endless wars

What are you talking about?

pacsatonifil · 2024-11-05T15:16:52+00:00

Give me evidence and not this emotional nonsense. Be logical first. You forget Tim is the VP. Why do you ignore this? Y’all said Obama was going to bring communism, that Joe Biden was going to be a disaster and yet every time the numbers back the democratic policies. Jobs, economy, etc. I don’t about you, but I care about women. think whatever makes me a man, or society, something makes me care. I am gay and I love men, but even then I expect a man to be logical first not emotional

lukuh123 · 2024-11-05T14:36:30+00:00

Guys remember to not spit misogyny here..then we are no better than misandrists.

InsanityRoach · 2024-11-05T14:26:01+00:00

Dems are much less likely to start wars... out of 12 years where the US was not at war, the Dems were at the helm for 11 of them. Dumb take.

ForgingFakes · 2024-11-05T15:19:50+00:00

Trump went bombing crazy

Federal_Occasion_159 · 2024-11-05T16:26:17+00:00

Men's rights aren't directly at stake this election. Women's right to an abortion was stripped away under Dobbs and Trump will make no effort to restore that right.

Kamala vowed to end the war in Gaza at her last Michigan rally last night... If you are not referring to the Gaza war, please tell me specifically what war you are referring to. Liz Cheney is not even a politician currently, so it is unclear how she would "get us into war."

Men do deserve love. But men's rights this election are not quite on the ballot the way women's rights are this election.

Alternative-Oil-6288 · 2024-11-05T16:58:51+00:00

Until they’re part of the draft, they don’t get our vote. They can send us to war, take our jobs, enjoy the economic benefits that come with wars and we get shit in return. People argue it’s women can have babies, but refuse to put it in writing like they have with our bodies. Women are not entitled to my vote. Nobody is entitled to your vote.

funnybillypro · 2024-11-05T14:34:23+00:00

Because it's not as direct or definitive the 'Kamala president to dead sons' pipeline.

Trump is. The dead daughters has already been happening since some states fucked with abortion. They're dying now, really. Not theoretically.

Also, don't you know there's a female senator in a wheelchair cuz SHE served our country in the Middle East???

There's not gonna be a draft. And we can March about it when that becomes even a Whiff of a maybe from the mouth of someone in power.

VariousScallion8597 · 2024-11-05T14:49:10+00:00

Probably because Trump has not come out strongly as the anti-war candidate. Trump could have said that he would put an end to the Ukraine war. He could have said he would not commit troops to the Middle East. He wouldn't let Gazans be genocided.

He could have made a strong statement. But he didn't. Probably because his backers support those conflicts.

So much like women who will not get a federal law against abortion with a Kamala win, men will likely get more war with a trump win

themolestedsliver · 2024-11-05T15:13:13+00:00

And trump won't? Dudes Putins bitch and will roll over for any dictator who flatters him.

Fucking brain rot to think of this any other way

Trump does not give A FUCK about you.

Life_Engineering5333 · 2024-11-05T18:55:08+00:00

Peace through strength, not cowardice

hendrixski · 2024-11-05T23:02:14+00:00

Stop this B.S.

Juat like Neville Chamberlain, we aren't going to avoid a war by letting Putin take territory at will.

New-Distribution6033 · 2024-11-05T16:50:25+00:00

To them, men are either ATMs or NPCs.

Robbomot · 2024-11-05T16:50:55+00:00

How will they?

UglyDude1987 · 2024-11-05T14:27:17+00:00

What war has democrats started in the last 25 years?

IndustrialDesignLife · 2024-11-05T16:50:19+00:00

This sub really wants me to vote for Trump and it’s just not fucking happening. I have no problem with a female commander in chief but I do have a problem with a traitorous piece of shit like Trump lying his fat ass back into office.

I can’t wait for this election to be over so I can get a break from identity politics being crammed down my throat.

pizgloria007 · 2024-11-05T14:36:33+00:00

Stupid is as stupid does.

PhotographMyWife · 2024-11-05T15:04:41+00:00

I think the most fuct part of all of this calamity is how many Americans cannot grasp the entire reality of information warfare and do their own diligence to learn that neither side is the correct solution to anything and third-party is almost always the best option.

November87 · 2024-11-05T15:17:35+00:00

No they won't. Stop buying the propaganda. Republicans (Trump) drive war and Trump will drive some big ones. You're a fool.

Tiny-General-3700 · 2024-11-05T17:25:02+00:00

Men aren't supposed to have rights. We're supposed to die so the military industrial complex and the politicians can get richer.

Wayss37 · 2024-11-05T14:42:13+00:00

A vote for Harris is for every sane person regardless of gender

6658 · 2024-11-05T16:16:59+00:00

uh, they won't start endless wars. what's your source? I think you're a little swept up in election drama. Trump will make life worse for basically everyone, including men.

Tiny-Fall-4040 · 2024-11-05T22:40:27+00:00

I hope Trump wins for the good of the world.

PsychologicalRain913 · 2024-11-05T15:58:56+00:00

I’m a woman, but I have to admit that you’re completely right here.

Happy_Secret_1299 · 2024-11-05T16:17:34+00:00

For me it comes down to: I believe the Democrats are now the pro war pro military industrial complex party. If dick Cheney supports your party for president, I can guarantee you that the elected administration will spend our tax dollars blowing up people overseas.

I won't contribute to that at all.

It's not about pro or anti male, it's about the effects of that vote on myself, my brother, and those I take care of.

BlueThespian · 2024-11-05T15:26:31+00:00

That whole reason is why I will never support Kamala whatever, she doesn’t feel like a person that knows how the sausage gets made and only speaks of ideals, she literally has a flowerpot on her head.

AndreasDasos · 2024-11-05T17:35:55+00:00

All of them? Even my non-American ones?

xemnas103 · 2024-11-05T21:20:18+00:00

Men do deserve love too but I don't know about the endless wars though. Men have gotten other men killed too. Women will fight for their rights, but men got to get out there and fight for their just as much.

rush4you · 2024-11-05T16:55:35+00:00

Yeah no, it actually goes like this: Trump wins > Russian victory in Ukraine > Chinese invasion of Taiwan or Russian invasion of the Baltics > WW3 > Draft and nuclear exchange.

If Putin loses in Ukraine > China will back down long enough for the Taiwanese chip factories to relocate to the Americas > WW3 averted.

flashliberty5467 · 2024-11-05T16:41:34+00:00

Today is election day if you have your son’s nephew etc best interest at heart both chase Oliver and Jill stein are great options they both support abolishing the draft and preventing WW3

ThePiachu · 2024-11-05T19:17:04+00:00

And you think Trump would be better?

Svenl7 · 2024-11-05T15:18:10+00:00

They don’t care about it. They are just using it as political tool to win over naive women.

PMmeareasontolive · 2024-11-05T17:53:42+00:00

wtf is this dems = "endless war" nonsense? What "endless war" can you point to that doesn't have roots in the Bush admin?

CaptainObvious1313 · 2024-11-05T16:15:44+00:00

Vote for your daughter is a direct reference to the reproductive choice rights of women being stripped. We even have proposals for laws to have state laws be imposed across state borders and criminals charges. These actions are what’s driving this narrative. Anyone paying attention can see this. Can we go into some real men’s rights issues here, rather than rhetoric without facts? For example, can we talk about why men are disproportionately negatively affected by divorce? How about the lack of support for mental health issues for men? How about the fact that men, especially POC are disproportionately jailed and targeted throughout the USA? We have enough real issues we don’t need to manufacture false ones.

T_T_H_W · 2024-11-05T19:50:03+00:00

Is there any evidence to support this take or are we just fortune telling now ?

draxvalor · 2024-11-05T20:08:37+00:00

Don't get it twisted both sides are just crooks looking to pocket all they can. It was republicans who forced us into a bogus war previously in Iran over fake WMDs and now we are allies with the Taliban. Both sides do not give a fuck about men or anyone else only money.

DKtopia · 2024-11-05T23:13:23+00:00

This is MAGA level BS. Ukraineans fighting for you right now. With Trump you will be fighting soon.

surveysaysno · 2024-11-06T00:14:58+00:00

When is the last time a Democrat started a multi-year war? Why would you think Kamala would start one?

Separate-Traffic3219 · 2024-11-06T00:37:53+00:00

Are men really becoming this dumb? I'm ashamed to be one of you...

Tiny-Fall-4040 · 2024-11-05T16:56:00+00:00

Because men’s rights aren’t in direct danger from either candidate winning. Women’s rights ARE in danger by electing him.

According-Low-1937 · 2024-11-05T14:28:29+00:00

Womens vote should only count as a half of a vote for this very reason!

obliviious · 2024-11-05T22:00:02+00:00

This might be the dumbest most gullible post I've seen here. As if the republicans don't just love a good ole war. Check their track record and look at all the times Trumps has said he'll end the conflict by "decimating them". That's war talk stupid.

Talk about believing all the propaganda.

Arcayon · 2024-11-06T01:45:17+00:00

Gotta say. I love this subreddit but this post is dumb. The axis exists in a modern world to challenge a US hegemony and you think one candidate is going to suddenly stop that?

bluehorserunning · 2024-11-05T18:39:23+00:00

Given that neither woman has started any wars- nor has Biden- that’s a stretch.

Chrisismexican · 2024-11-05T21:54:32+00:00

Why is this sub filled with so many self pitying crybabies? “Endless wars” will continue with either candidate

Title	All this crap about “WoMeN’s RiGhTs” but Kamala+Liz Cheney will get all our sons, brothers, fathers etc…involved in endless wars
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Date	November 5, 2024 2:12 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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Throughout history, queens were more likely to wage war than kings