Women are not as toxic as men

MongoBobalossus · 2025-01-29T15:35:32+00:00

I dunno if I would define “toxic” as “being a criminal” though.

You can absolutely be a shitty, emotionally abusive partner while not breaking any laws.

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-01-29T15:51:20+00:00

"women score higher in empathy and prosocial behaviors"

Empathy for, who, though?

"Most of the worst criminals are male."

Who's more toxic? A guy who went to jail for selling weed? Or a woman who convinces her daughter to fear and hate all men?

"It's funny because in 2025, it has been shown multiple times that there's usually a man behind these scams. "

But feminists use this argument for everything. From their perspective, there's always a man behind the scenes controlling women. When there is no example presented on where women are accountable for their actions, that in itself is "toxic". This is one of many reasons why Feminist women, are the most toxic of all.

"Lets be honest, if you ask the average person "who's the most reprehensible person you personally know irl"? Chances are most will talk about a man."

Actually it's always a radical feminist woman.

"I have personally observed that men are just less sensitive and empathetic."

Feminists have no empathy or sensitivity, unless those feelings are for a woman. Not even that. A specific demographic of women. So, they only have empathy and are sensitive to a small group of people, and none for anyone else.

Since most women are either feminists, or feminist adjacent, women are more toxic than men.

Mydragonurdungeon · 2025-01-29T16:05:16+00:00

Women are performatively empathetic. They make a show of it. They might even actually feel worse.

But they don't actually do shit about it.

Empathy without action is empty and performative.

Like a guy will hear a woman is having problems and offer to help her move, give her a ride etc.

Women will not do these things for men.

Men give more to charity, as another example.

Teflon08191 · 2025-01-29T16:53:27+00:00

Women are by no means less toxic than men. Their toxicity just leaves less physical evidence behind.

KissMyAsthma-99 · 2025-01-29T16:00:43+00:00

It's parroted mindlessly that women "are as toxic as men". But is it objectively true? 1) women score higher in empathy and prosocial behaviors https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-47747-9 2)

You're assuming that study truly measures empathy. I see no evidence that it does. It labels a subset of behaviors as empathetic, but not in a way that is objective or well controlled.

Most of the worst criminals are male.

So are most of the geniuses. Does that men are smarter than women?

3) "but what about the women who scam lonely old men and take their money via OnlyFans?" It's funny because in 2025, it has been shown multiple times that there's usually a man behind these scams. Even Andrew Tate who used to own a webcam model business has admitted that these are usually controlled by male pimps.

That would make both of them equally toxic. That is exactly the opposite the argument you seem to otherwise be advancing.

4) Lets be honest, if you ask the average person "who's the most reprehensible person you personally know irl"? Chances are most will talk about a man.

First, I disagree with this assertion. Secondly, even if that's true, it wouldn't evidence your point because perception is not reality.

5) I have personally observed that men are just less sensitive and empathetic.

I have personally observed the opposite.

This is not to bash men,

All evidence exists to the contrary.

it's just objective reality

It is not.

and potentially explains many things like why women are more likely to file for divorce.

A strong argument can be made that the opposite is true and that men have more empathy for their wives being less than fantastic and so they don't choose divorce while women have less empathy for their husband's failings and do choose divorce.

Schleudergang1400 · 2025-01-29T15:38:21+00:00

Being a criminal is not being toxic.

Having slightly lower empathy doesn't make one toxic.

Men make up the extremes of anything. Doesn't necessarily say anything about the average of the population.

What do you even mean by "as toxic as men"? Average is the same? Average is in the same ballpark? A single woman can be as toxic as a single man? The highest levels of toxicity can be found in both men and women? How do you measure toxicity? How do you define it?

You think this thread isn't an example of a woman being toxic?

RahLyt · 2025-01-29T16:11:56+00:00

There's something most women or even people seem to miss when they talk about women being empathetic.

Women are more empathetic to other women and to kids.

Men are more likely to save someone in danger.

With that being said, I think the amount of toxic people from each side is the same.

qwertyuduyu321 · 2025-01-29T15:59:36+00:00

Women are not as toxic as men

As others have pointed out correctly, it's due to the nature of men's design. We're more extreme, always.

That's why desipicable mass killers are male (Stalin or Zedong).

However, and that's what women conveniently ignore, most philanthropist also happen to be male...

List of philanthropists

That's just how the word 'extremes' work.

savethebros · 2025-01-29T15:56:00+00:00

Women are emphatic to other women, not to men or boys.
Women aren’t going to be shamed for being gay for showing empathy or concern for other women.
Women aren’t going to called sexist for creating services (e.g. DV shelters) specifically for other women.
Women aren’t taught self-sufficiency to the same extent as men are, leading them to have less reservations (and face less social consequences) about accepting help.
Women aren’t taught to constantly have to prove their femininity, while also being told they’re toxic for doing that

Women will absolutely use violence if they see a need for it or gain from it, just like men. Women don’t use violence as much because they don’t need to. They’ll still get what they want. When women do use violence, it’s not seen as dangerous or toxic. (This is the “women are wonderful” effect)

Regarding crime, women are less likely to have to resort to street crime to provide for their families, since they aren’t usually the breadwinners.

TLDR: Women aren’t naturally/biologically less prone to violence, that’s just a feminist talking point. They just don’t need to use it as much to advance in society.

To your last point, women file for divorce more often because they aren’t the ones who’ll be paying child support or alimony. They’ll still have a roof over their heads. That’s literally it.

Lord_TachankaCro · 2025-01-29T16:47:23+00:00

More criminals are men because more poor and homeless people are men. More violent people are men because women are weaker, and it's hard being violent if you aren't strong enough

AssPlay69420 · 2025-01-29T16:12:00+00:00

What is toxic? I mean honestly.

You’re going over downside facts about how men all too often can be.

But is it always better to even be empathetic in the first place?

Is there perhaps a utility to the same traits and maybe we should just focus on trying to channel those traits in better ways instead of calling men evil for having them?

psych0ticmonk · 2025-01-29T17:00:41+00:00

A while ago on the rant subreddit there was a post by a self identified femcel raging at the fact that male loneliness and high suicide rates are getting mainstream attention. there reasoning was that it wasn't important because Gen Z is considered the loneliest generation; ignoring the fact that it is men reporting their loneliness that is driving these numbers and the other was that they don't care about male suicide rates and in fact want them to increase even more.

most of the responding comments were in support of this woman, anyone who disagreed and called this gender war stuff toxic got downvoted and presumably banned as I was.

checking on criminal statistics is tricky because for one women tend to get more leniency than men but it also depends on how you see a crime. let's a say a man murders the ex-husband of a woman, he committed the murder but if the woman was the one orchestrating it, then what is her culpability? there have been cases where the woman got lesser initial charges than the man and eventually pleaded guilty to even fewer charges.

Kreeps_United · 2025-01-29T17:34:31+00:00

"but what about the women who scam lonely old men and take their money via OnlyFans?" It's funny because in 2025, it has been shown multiple times that there's usually a man behind these scams. Even Andrew Tate who used to own a webcam model business has admitted that these are usually controlled by male pimps.

I know there are a lot of redpillers, incels, and other men who hate the women they jerk off to on this sub but OF models are far from who I think of when I think of toxic women. I would think of Karens. Women who use concern for women to bully POC and those they see below themselves. I would think of Amy Schumer, who can cheer on ethnic cleansing and then be celebrated by Variety.

Lets be honest, if you ask the average person "who's the most reprehensible person you personally know irl"? Chances are most will talk about a man.

Doubt. Like seriously, there are so many stories of mothers, mothers in law, step mothers, golden child sisters, and fake female friends to make it at least 50/50

I have personally observed that men are just less sensitive and empathetic.

And many people, both men and women, would say the exact opposite. shrug Shit, on this sub I've seen women make posts that have me wondering if they know men are people.

This is not to bash men,

It was. You know it was and everyone will see through it. Might as well admit if so the people who don't want to bash men won't have to distance themselves from stuff like this.

abaxeron · 2025-01-30T09:00:13+00:00

potentially explains many things like why women are more likely to file for divorce

"Women are so empathetic they dump their own husbands that they themselves preselected into marriage" does not follow. It never did, it never will. IF population sex ratio was 100 women per 1 man, and ALL men were married, you could stretch it out to sort-of make sense. There is a pool of non-criminal, non-abusive men that women chose not to get together with.

Most of the worst criminals are male.

Yes. Most of the people whose behavior we arbitrarily defined as breaking the law tend to be male. Most of the people whose behavior we arbitrarily decided to punish more harshly tend to be male. Most of the people whose law-breaking behavior we arbitrarily pardon because we arbitrarily decided that it's a no biggie, are female. The problem, of course, is "arbitrary definitions" are the opposite of objective truth. It took the US more than two centuries to convict a woman for lethally breastfeeding her baby while high on drugs.

I have personally observed that men are just less sensitive and empathetic.

I have personally observed a woman here on PPD threatening to abduct her own baby from its father, move it to another country, and leave under Safe Haven laws under fake name, if she ever found out that the father bought a paternity test kit.

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thedarkracer · 2025-01-29T16:01:10+00:00

Women get away with violence much more than men which is why you will not see that reflected in the stats.

Whom will you most likely believe, man beaten up by a woman or the reverse?

Plus, women use words as weapons more while men use physical force more.

women score higher in empathy and prosocial behaviors https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-47747-9

When you cross check, women rate themselves as higher but studies prove both genders equal. I could list example proving women aren't emphatic at all atleast to men's issues.

This is not to bash men, it's just objective reality and potentially explains many things like why women are more likely to file for divorce

eh...can you explain then why divorces of lesbians are higher than gays and heterosexuals? and they list the same reasons for divorce that straight women list, why? Gays rank lowest in divorces. To add lesbians also report higher cases of DV. Women aren't as adjusting as men so men bear more which is why they don't report cases which could be DV or file for divorce.

Fair-Bus-4017 · 2025-01-29T16:13:32+00:00

Having empathy and being toxic aren't mutually exclusive. Especially when having more empathy doesn't state who this is reserved for. And it also doesn't state how toxic they are when they would qualify for the label.

Metrics like this don't prove anything on their own.

wtknight · 2025-01-29T17:01:21+00:00

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Jello_Vivid · 2025-01-29T17:53:21+00:00

I strongly disagree, women can appear to be empathetic but women tend to lie more to protect feelings and men are more straight talking. I think women can be just as toxic or even worse. This especially applies to the judgement women can have if you open up about your feelings and that's why it's better to have a group of male friends from the male perspective.

Lastly men have to withhold strong emotions such as anger as acting out of control can lead to lots of trouble as on average men are the physically stronger sex, women can get away with a lot more in terms of showing extreme emotion as it's brushed off as them being the weaker sex an example of this is sex abuse in schools. If a male teacher has sex with a pupil that man is a monster but if you reverse this with a female teacher on a student as they seem to not get the same punishment. I think society allows women to get away with more as they are deemed the weaker sex physically so punishments for similar crimes aren't weighted equally.

Psykotyrant · 2025-01-29T18:05:17+00:00

Andrew Tate could tell me that a cloudless sky in the day is blue, I’d feel compelled to check by myself.

insert_dead_memes · 2025-01-30T01:23:39+00:00

Women are also much more dependent on their reputations for their survival and have a completely different system of intrasexual competition, so we can be pretty sure that if they were as toxic as men on average they wouldn't just show it like men do. The female system of intrasexual competition does, however, rely mainly on exclusion and defamation, so men have a reproductive incentive to be toxic outwardly and women have a reproductive incentive to hide their toxicity. Either way, 'toxicity,' i.e. doing harm to members of your own species, is a behaviour seldom employed for anything other than intrasexual competition, which we can be sure each sex practices just as much as the other.

MBTHVSK · 2025-01-30T05:01:08+00:00

Women are more easily bored/driven insane/irritated by innocuous behavior and push men to do tons of these fucking things.

rag3light · 2025-01-30T08:01:42+00:00

The most reprehensible men are also highly chosen by women.

So.....

Eastoss · 2025-01-30T11:46:31+00:00

1) women score higher in tests designed for women to score higher

2) most of the worst criminals have wives/women perfectly content with the situation sharing their spoils. Selfish asshole and mild criminals even have more sex appeal to women.

3) why people even look on onlyfans, women are notorious for scamming other women on the daily

4) Men are the most reprehensible and reprehended. Women are the most reprehensible walking free of charge. We can see that with cheaters and thiefs for instance. But assholery as well is more forgiven from women while men are more easily isolated socially when they do bad stuff.

5) I have personally observed that men are more partial and fair. Sensitiveness and empathy would constantly make people be biased. And that post is a prime example of that.

What's even the link between the title and the post? There isn't. Toxicity by design is more something women are spreading because toxicity is when things erode you while things aren't outwardly violent, men are champion of violence and women are champion of toxicity.

KhadgarIsaDreadlord · 2025-02-02T16:10:44+00:00

Spreads hateful misandristic rhetoric against men

not to bash men tho UwU it's just objective reality

Cringe. Please post again if you bring constructive arguments to the table

Title	Women are not as toxic as men
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Date	January 29, 2025 3:32 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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