The quickest way to success with women is...

chips_and_hummus · 2025-11-28T14:07:55+00:00

right, if you define success as getting with any woman

wrong, if you define success as getting with the women you want to

jackthehat6 · 2025-11-28T14:04:02+00:00

it's not exactly a mind blowing concept, but yeah. If you wanna keep banging girls who are way way 'hotter' than you, with a very good hit rate, then you'll basically need hella money or fame lol.

I've spent time with lots of dating coaches, and the ones who get laid a lot (because they approach in serious VOLUME!!) are not banging the girls who you'd be super jealous of, tbh. Not that they're banging absolute whales or anything, but their results are just a matter of using 'volume' (not some mystical 'skill') to FIND the girls who are attracted to them (and thus receptive to their approach). And typically, these aren't gonna be the 19 year old cheerleading stunners that everyone wants lol

Change2222 · 2025-11-28T15:44:55+00:00

You’re not succeeding you’re changing your metrics of success lol. If your metric is: date beautiful women whose company makes you happiest and you change it to: date any woman so I can brag to the boys about what a player I am even though I find the actual women uninteresting and unenjoyable - are you really succeeding?

Idk I think dating women for the approval of other men is kind of gay.

AffectionateShift843 · 2025-11-28T18:40:00+00:00

Lame

Bigballerway93 · 2025-11-28T16:31:27+00:00

I wish there was actual advice on this subreddit instead of the same recycled and flawed methods

chamcham123 · 2025-11-28T19:59:51+00:00

The ugly women are now just as picky as the attractive ones. Don’t fool yourself. In fact, the ugly women might lose respect for you because you picked them. 🤯

autodidacticasaurus · 2025-11-28T21:21:53+00:00

This is terrible advice. I did this when I was younger and it's really not healthy for you or for her. Women love being appreciated and women are very good at picking up on how men feel about them. It's really hurtful to be with someone who can feel that you're not really into them.

Not only that, but it can lead to you not treating her as well as you would otherwise. It's really not a sustainable ground for creating a relationship. The other problem is that you won't be satisfied in the long-term either. Eventually you'll have to admit that to yourself and leave her. That'll suck for both of you and you'll be back where you started.

Trust me, it makes a huge difference. I've settled several times, but I've also been with incredibly beautiful women who after two years of being with them, I was still smashed by how hot they were every time I saw them.

Don't hurt girls with this shit and don't cheat yourself either.

tlm000 · 2025-11-28T16:43:15+00:00

Yea I’ve probably could have done the deed about a year ago if I had lowered my standard but idk I just can’t seem to come to terms with having sex with someone I don’t find attractive.

Cornichonsale · 2025-11-28T16:58:01+00:00

A successful man, does he have to lower his standard too ?

Back2theCouture · 2025-11-28T14:32:31+00:00

In my book butter face women are always good to approach. If it comes down to ugly vs fat, I prefer the former.

TuneSoft7119 · 2025-11-28T17:04:36+00:00

how do you make your self attracted to girls your not attracted to?

Or do you just have to pop a viagra and wait?

wappe97 · 2025-11-28T17:56:25+00:00

No this is wrong. Instead of lowering your standards lower how much you value on looks. Most girls dont respect men bc most men are pushovers when it comes to hot girls! Threat them as you would treat anyone else!

Naivety1993 · 2025-11-28T19:21:36+00:00

Most people don't understand that you can't level up to 100 in a day, you start practicing with people you can attract and then gradually improve your skills and get the girl you want. I assume OP wanted to allude to that

Beansnmilk · 2025-11-28T22:17:59+00:00

I don't know why people in the comments are complaining, in a way he is right. Especially If you are new to seduction, It will teach you a lot about female nature and how girls work. Obviously don't go for women you find OUTRIGHT repulsive, but I can definitely see lowering one's standards slightly working.

WebNew9978 · 2025-11-28T15:30:20+00:00

And what if the lower standard women also don’t want to be with you either? Like no matter how much lower you get, they still don’t want to be with you.

RoyalPheromones · 2025-11-29T09:57:20+00:00

You gotta slay a few dragons to get to the princess.

When you pipe down a 4-6 and her hot friends meet you they'll think "he's way to hot to be with her," then next thing you know youre upgrading.

The key to banging hot women IS banging lesser attractive ones that have a good social circle of attractive friends. Then you just jump from friend group to friend group . As long as you are upfront with them about being a casual boytoy they don't mind.

No_Albatross7934 · 2025-11-28T15:19:56+00:00

Guys, trust me, getting pretty woman is not hard. I have a really pretty gf and it wasn't hard getting her.

As a comment says you need to have a lot of money or fame to get pretty women. That's quite true too, but not at all. Though I might not be a billionaire, but have plenty of fame. Gaining fame isn't hard, you just have to make people interested in you, by any means.

You have to court people's attention on you, either by your communication skills or any other skill you have, without acting like an idiot. And boom that's all you need, then you've access to talk to any woman you want, and they'll like to talk to a popular guy too, then it's all so easy.

I somehow gained attention of powerful/popular people and it opened a new world for me, now I was at the centre of attention most of the time. I showed my achievements like an exhibition and my skills like a effortless talent. Then I just approached this beautiful woman, she seemed totally interested, we hanged out together that night, I dropped her home. I got her number in 2 days, and in a week we were in relationship.

Don't worry OP it's not that hard you'll get pretty woman too, just change your mindset and go out. Sorry for terrible English, not my first language.

nintendoborn1 · 2025-11-28T15:38:12+00:00

That’s my problem I’d rather not have a huge body count of fat women I’d prefer regular sized one but because there’s so little of them here they think they have a +5 to rating

eyewave · 2025-11-28T14:46:17+00:00

I would be more accurate in the statement.

I think specifically you need to lower the standard on the physique. All that's proportions, body fat ratio, body muscle ratio, cheekbone ratio, color of the eyes. Anything that can be standstill and measurable.

But then, focus on body language and body movement. Figure out a standard of things you wanna see when they move AND when they interact with YOU (or their loved ones). And learn to clock whenever it clicks together with your body language. That's when beautiful things happen.

I still look at women with good plastique all the time, but I go talk with women who already give me a good time in how they behave.

estingazel · 2025-11-29T05:23:46+00:00

So, for not starving, I could just eat garbage. Survival mode.

Particular_Return339 · 2025-11-28T14:54:49+00:00

take your time and be considerate

luroot · 2025-11-28T15:42:33+00:00

The key is being relatively better-looking. So either you looksmaxxx and/or lower your (conventional) looks standards for her to increase volume.

driller20 · 2025-11-28T16:17:47+00:00

success means diferent things for each of us

Robofrogg1 · 2025-11-28T18:01:20+00:00

Aww hell I can do better than that--- just pick up women that you can pay for sex and you'll never fail.

Sandvicheater · 2025-11-28T21:09:49+00:00

Or have cash and/or looks preferably both

Altruistic_Fig_6970 · 2025-11-28T21:30:15+00:00

El Que coje no escoge jaja

IndividualPlay5178 · 2025-11-28T22:17:13+00:00

Also if you are drunk enough I guess.

Then again, if she's not at least moderatelly attractive you are not that committed to woeing her anyway.

ouchywahwah · 2025-11-28T22:48:37+00:00

Go Ugly Early

SilentAirline6611 · 2025-11-28T23:15:34+00:00

What do you get out of dating women you’re not attracted to? I’d rather stay alone if that’s the case

MyUsername0_0 · 2025-11-28T23:30:28+00:00

I want women I want. Getting women I don't find attractive isn't even seduction.

besitomusic · 2025-11-28T23:53:00+00:00

Very true. Furthermore, standards go beyond just physical looks but also character, personality, lifestyle, and general compatibility. Of course, this is much more important for serious and long term relationships although many men could probably get away with ignoring these standards in more casual relationships

SWIMS_labrat · 2025-11-29T01:24:56+00:00

You need to be in the right environment, a situation where ya meet many people. Also combined with good SMV and social skills

RelentlessMacho · 2025-11-29T08:44:48+00:00

Yes, have a reasonable attractiveness threshold. This will increase the number of women in your dating pool.

Since success with women, either for dating, hookups or FWBs is a numbers game, higher the number of girls in your dateable pool, the better your odds.

Acrobatic_Mention681 · 2025-11-29T12:42:01+00:00

Cope

Wireframewizard · 2025-11-29T13:28:39+00:00

Depends on what you define by “success “ actually. I prefer not paying any attention actually. To an extend that it comes to us.

Kylearean · 2025-11-29T18:13:31+00:00

Best sex I ever had was with a mid woman. You never know what you're going to get.

Hot girls tend to be pillow princesses anyway.

EmersonBloom · 2025-11-29T23:23:53+00:00

This is horrible advice. I've tried this twice. Worst relationships I've ever had. Women can sense this and will be insecure, jealous, and controlling out of fear of losing you. Then you are stuck in a crappy relationship with someone you aren't even really attracted to.

Shoddy-Lingonberry-4 · 2025-11-30T00:43:22+00:00

Build up your physique. A six pack will have women chase you.

Rocko210 · 2025-11-30T01:44:47+00:00

Have a lot of money.

ArmitageShanks69 · 2025-11-30T12:50:22+00:00

Be good looking.

Shylockvanpelt · 2025-11-30T16:24:14+00:00

nah, is improving the perceived status in your social circle: physical form, money, prestige, power, apparent reliability - anything goes.

Dry_Parking3897 · 2025-12-01T01:36:39+00:00

bert_cj · 2025-12-01T21:02:51+00:00

This is awful advice but I suppose true according to your verbage which means success with ANY woman.

No, dont lower your standards.

Its_A_Me_JOE · 2025-12-02T01:39:54+00:00

See? That's where it gets conflicting If I give up on looks, I don't even need to approach women, they come to me, quite consistently I am a bit bad at social cues but these girls make it so obvious that they want me and find me hot.

But the ones I want and the ones that I think fit my standards or I think are out of my league, I don't usually have much success with them. Firstly...they don't approach me, and on the rare occassion that I do, it usually doesn't work out in my favour.

Even on the rare occassion that such a woman does approach me, it usually turns into "friendship" (or starts with those intentions, I really don't know the difference) so I either just stop talking to her, or keep her around for when I'm bored and I need someone to go out with

Kinda need a solution to this problem, and partly I think that this case control study is relevant to this discussion

Cipamanz · 2025-12-02T20:22:24+00:00

Wrong! You cant defy biology! But u can upgrade your game to get girls at your standard and higher

hwillis891 · 2025-12-08T09:42:24+00:00

This is terrible advice. Not only does it make your mentality weak with women, it makes your mentality weak in general.

If you are a man and you have been birthed on this beautiful green earth and you have survived infancy, you are a complete anomaly. Who knows if this life is the last you could possibly have. So why waste it not going after what you absolutely want with everything you have? If you fail, at least you weren’t weak to settle for a terribly innocuous life of quiet desperation and mental suicide.

Fucking take the reins and live man. A little rejection never hurt anybody. Fuck this loser mentality.

ThatGworl_forever97 · 2025-11-28T16:11:41+00:00

What do you define as attractive? .. because the typical man is less attractive than the average woman but have all the audacity in regards to who he desires LOL

costelo33 · 2025-11-28T21:50:01+00:00

You're not a piece of software to just rewrite something and start fancying women you don't. Besides, I believe women have a kind of treshold you need to cross for them to consider you. That treshold is generally the same for attractive and not so attractive women. The difference is, that unattractive women are more likely to show some initiative, so it may look like they are "easier".

Long story short, there's little to no difference if you know what you're doing, so you might very well go after the women you really like.

Title	The quickest way to success with women is...
Author	dieterdetlef1337
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Date	November 28, 2025 1:59 PM UTC (7 months ago)
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