Men are trash.

missylizzy · 2020-07-31T18:27:36+00:00

I used to be one of those woman. The truth was I went after all the wrong men. There are great men out there but most of us are chasing the wrong thing? Why? I have theories but maybe another time.

The sad part is that I'm pregnant. Not sure if girl or boy yet but imagine me raising a boy with this mindset?!

Runningdisciple · 2020-07-31T18:28:17+00:00

Oh this gets on my nerves so much!

What I do is try to bring the argument down to tangible things and ask for examples. So they’ll say something like “they’re cheaters (exes), liars (fathers), rapists (some college frat in the news), disgusting, manipulative and get away with it” to which I respond “women do that as well” and then go on to make concrete examples of women “being trash” and men being awesome. I try to come across as kind and understanding cause they’re truly just victims of feminism and past hurt. So I go on and show them, in love, that our experiences are subjective and we make conclusions from that. I speak about my father who was a great man and the pastor of my church who is also amazing. I have huge respect for both of them and make sure its noticeable in my speech. It never ends in “convincing” them, but I think it plants a seed.

sg_1996 · 2020-07-31T20:15:21+00:00

Hi there, thank you for sharing! I can totally agree with your line of thought as I have been in both sides of the coin.

While I was in school, the girls from my school and I would meet up once a month to socialize and talk about random topics off school; the first and last time I attended, I experienced feminism hate towards men multiplied by 9 girls; according to this girls, men do not have the slightest idea what any woman is capable of doing, they do not appreciate us at all, they are cold-blooded humans that come to this world to hurt and destroy anything that gets in their way, and a bunch of other senseless "facts" that made me not want to meet ever again with them.

I have been heart-broken as well, and even though the pain has been ughhh ugly, (and I don't intent to find excuses in favor of heartless men), I understand that we are in a toxic society as a whole, men are taught that they need to be rough, and even in some families, it is wrong for men to show their feelings to a woman, but I could say the same thing about some women, we are taught the wrong things that turn many women into a mean, manipulative person.

Sadly, some of those believes got engrained in me without realizing it. I am in a stable relationship now and so far, I can say I found my prince, he has erased every negative belief I had of men, for example, he watched a romantic comedy movie with me and I was shocked that he'd even suggest that movie (because I had never seen it before), so I slipped a comment like: "I can't believe you saw this movie before" and he answered to me that "men also have feelings" (I felt embarrassed cause no one in my family taught me that, and I just believed it for a long time). We did have some rough times, but love overcame them. He is a wonderful man and I feel proud to be with him.

This is what I believe, and I am not saying I am right; men have feelings, some men just weren't taught how to handle them, but with the right tools, I believe men can learn how to manage them. We also have feelings, but some women also don't know how to use them for good or express them without fear of getting hurt. For a relationship to work, both parts need to provide value, and by value I don't mean criticism like some of us do or did, I understand we women have the tendency to turn into an early version of our mother, but after your significant half leave their parents house, they do not miss their mother's nagging to get into a relationship that reminds them the nagging; when I say value, we women need to take care of ourselves, the same way, your other significant half is taking care of oneself. Contribute into the relationship like your significant half is doing it as well. Men are strong, so they have a better ability to carry-on with difficult tasks that usually women could not do. Women are a different type of strong, but we definitely had some luck (bad and good one); bad because at some point in history, we could not study, become a professional and vote; good luck when millions of our gender (not as much females) did not die in warfare like men did protecting our homes. So men and women had both disadvantages and our fair share of impact and advantages in this world

One of our duties as individuals is to appreciate, value, give thanks and praise (a little bit) your significant other's effort, because those little details make you and your half appreciate the relationship and it's an esteem-booster. Love yourself the way you are, so you can learn how to love others, pursue the best version of yourself so you can contribute to society (if you think about it, we come to this world as a work-in-progress, improving ourselves so we can improve society) and appreciate the little things, because those will make the difference. It is okay to fail 100¹⁰⁰⁰⁰ times (lol, a lot of times), but the world has not ended, so every extra second of life we get, it is another opportunity to try again. Try, as hard as you can, to not let hurt and hatred shape the way you think or act, because there is a lot of hateful people already to add a plus+1 more, into this world. When someone hurts you or do not appreciate you, it is okay to walk away, it is not your loss, IT IS THEIR LOSS, you are a beautiful person and somewhere in this world there is someone meant to value you for who you are.

I could keep going with my rambling, but I believe I said enough already, so that is my input into this topic

venetiaphair · 2020-07-31T21:25:19+00:00

Thank you!! I made a post recently of telling a date that I don’t believe in all that stuff, saying men are trash and that you shouldn’t trust them. It was the first time he heard a girl not just go off talking crap about men. It effects men hearing it so much more than we might expect and it’s so sad, not that the feminists would really care... I’ll never forgive feminism for that because literally where would we be without men? Sure, there are bad men just like there are bad women, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say true masculinity is one of the best things to exist in our society lol. We’d be lost without it.

keatsvevo · 2020-07-31T18:54:20+00:00

My eyes can barely stay open but I’ll add in my 2 ¢

Yeah, it’s societal gaslighting. One gender pitting themselves against the other. This is where liberal feminism goes out of hand.

Their claim for liberty is in trampling upon the “perpetrator” and using the label as bait to haul their prey into a net of generalized, if not exclusive accusations while hiding behind a smokescreen of perpetual victimhood.

Most of them use it as some sort of experiment. It’s an “aha” moment for them to catch someone displaying any sign of confusion or an expected knee-jerk response only for them to say “Aha! You’re part of the problem!”

Moreover, it’s opportunistic. Women who claim to be feminists will always be on the lookout to call men out on things that aren’t even their fault e.g. their reaction towards the statement.

All of the things you said are true. Humans deserve compassion. Each gender has their fair share of struggle so why should either one be zeroed in over a systemic failure?

“Not all men” is typically the counter argument for “men are trash” but certain liberal feminists today bite back by saying “We diDn’t sAy All mEn. Besides that’s not the point!!”

Who gives a horse’s crap if it’s just not about all men??? It’s about ZEROING IN on them and them alone.

WhatIsThisAccountFor · 2020-08-01T01:04:02+00:00

Women that say men are trash and believe it are trashy women. Some women say it as a joke but will get infinitely more offended when they hear men say “women are thots” or “all women are the same”.

The truth is that everyone has had at least one bad experience with someone the opposite sex. If you consistently have bad experiences with the opposite sex, then you need to start looking internally.

Generally, anyone that believes that everyone else is the problem is usually the source of the problem.

anonkcthtk · 2020-07-31T20:27:27+00:00

I agree but one thing confuses me. When men have daughters they say men are trash. They drill it into our heads to keep our guard up, how to protect ourselves from being raped by ANY man we come across, not to be alone with them, that they’re dogs, “I know what they’re thinking” all of that. How come fathers do this? It seems like they believe men are trash?

tolstushki701 · 2020-08-01T01:07:06+00:00

I noticed that most women who treat men like that were raised by single feminist mothers. Go on Instagram and type: womenare and then type: menare And see what pops up. I honestly think all these problems we have today are the result of mainly children being raised by single parents. Part of the American modern culture is to blame others for their failures and take no responsibility for their own actions, especially with women I notice this a lot. I think social media and mainstream media are brainwashing women to a point they can’t think on their own anymore. They take everything for granted. What we are also lacking is good education system, and I’ll stress again how you brought up is very important. If you are used to hearing “your father is a piece of s*** and all other men too” you’ll start subconsciously believing in it even if you don’t consciously accept it. There are really bad men out there, I am a man and I know that, but I think they only make up a small percentage of the entire population. I also think the reason most women go after bad men is because they have mental unresolved problems or their dads were bad men and they never got validation from their father. This new paradigm of “men are trash” can actually turn good men into bad men, only time will tell and results can be devastating. If you treat your husband like he is a piece of trash and your kids see it, they will internalize it and see it as “normal” and eventually will treat their partners the same way, because they never saw what is normal and what is not.

strawberrybananaemma · 2020-08-01T02:32:29+00:00

Two of my best friends are this way. So much so I never know what to say to defend my own views, I’m just kinda mortified. A few days ago one of them was telling me their tattoo plan. And in complete seriousness is getting “kill all men” in the game of thrones language on her forearm idk what the language is called but I was stunned. Even makes me rethink our relationship. The hardest part is not saying anything to them about it because I feel like I’m betraying all the men in my life who have only been so good to me. So I really. reaaaalllly feel you on this one.

TheLemming · 2020-07-31T18:44:12+00:00

I think people talk this way after they've been hurt. Or when they are terrified of being hurt. I mean, obviously it's silly and destructive, but I wouldn't read too much into it or take it too seriously. It's just a way of dealing with pain. Look at the way some men talk about women -- they can be very negative too.

RubyWooToo · 2020-08-01T12:47:31+00:00

I have the same response to people who say that as to incels who say women are trash... if you can’t get along with half the population, the problem is you not them.

And if a large portion of a generation of men raised by single mothers is poorly adapted for life in polite society, then maybe the problem isn’t men at all.

NoSexMonk · 2020-08-02T23:17:38+00:00

Thank you, in my life ive never seen a women makin a positive statements on men.

kafka123 · 2020-08-01T01:11:03+00:00

Men are not brilliant. Men are not trash. Women are not brilliant. Women are not trash.

People who yell "you're ugly" at random strangers in the street are trash.

_Em1ly · 2020-08-01T01:39:52+00:00

Truth is, this "division" between both genders is hurting everybody.
I had a peek at FDS and it's just so, so hateful. I mean, if you switch the words "men" with "women" and vice-versa, you can get some literal Incel/MGTOW stuff. We should have a subreddit in the same style of /r/menkampf/
Nobody deserves to be disrespected because of their gender, there's so much stuff that divides and hurts us, such as religion, politics, race, social class and etc, now gender? I just wish that these men and women changed as people, obviously they don't think this way because they think it's "the right thing", they think this way because they feel safe in the group they have found themselves on. I can understand why some men may end up like Misogynists for the same reason some womem may become Misandrists. Life is hard, indeed, but hating an entire group because of a few insatisfactions in life is unhealthy.

ban1chka · 2020-08-01T09:21:31+00:00

I think society used to hold men to a very high standard, that's what traditional masculinity is to me. The idea of toxic masculinity, I think, comes from the men who fail to achieve that high standard and make up for it by overtly aggressive and/or arrogant behavior.

I think women should also be held to a high standard, which traditional femininity represents. Some things are shared, some things are gender specific. Taking responsibility for your actions. Controlling your emotions. Maintaining your dignity and integrity in all situations. These are all shared standards.

Being able to physically protect the people who are weaker than you, people you love. Taking risks and accepting the consequences with dignity. Having to make difficult decisions for your family. These are things I relate more with masculinity and honestly are things I don't think I would be able to do except perhaps in very extreme situations. Leading is a huge responsibility. I'm an intelligent and competent person and take pride in producing high quality products. But I'm no leader. I have huge respect and admiration for any man who can live up to that standard.

I completely agree with a previous commenter who said that the disruption of family units is a huge mistake and a failure of western societies. And sadly I think in a lot of cases "trashy men" are a result of the influence of trashy women. Women are largely unaware of the huge emotional influence we have on men, especially mothers on their sons, and that's extremely dangerous. The right woman can help a good man be a great man, and the wrong woman can ruin him.

Men and women are different. We are supposed to work together and complement each other. I don't understand how saying that any gender is trashy helps the situation. And it's most definitely not true...

sivisamarii · 2020-07-31T20:30:10+00:00

I haaaaaate when women say this.

The most hilarious thing is that lots of my friends will tell me, “oh you don’t get it, you’re really close with your Dad and your little brother.” What it shows me that it’s not based on reality- it just reveals lot of pain and flippancy coming from total lack of exposure to the amazing, young men out there today; and lack of good male role models in their lives.

lunalamoon · 2020-07-31T21:44:59+00:00

But....I love men 😭

dov-alice · 2020-07-31T20:43:48+00:00

I see this waaay too often on social media like Facebook and Instagram. I remember there was a facebook group, “I miss the time when men went off to war and never came back” like what the heck?!? Then there’s men who are creating groups to counter that, its turned into a battle of the sexes. It’s so sad to see and everytime I see a woman comment “men ain’t sh*t” it makes me wonder what the world has come to where this is considered humour 😔

-MrPornFlakes- · 2020-07-31T18:32:14+00:00

Yes I as a male understand your pain. People need to understand that some people are trash and some of them happen to be men. (Not to blame every one belonging to the generation) but I think that was a millennial thing. Boomer generation women did not speak much and gen z females atleast that I know emphasize with male counter parts and see them as allies.

gafsagirl · 2020-07-31T19:30:47+00:00

What both feminists and misogynists fail to realize is the fact that most people, men or women, aren't /good/. Meeting a genuinely good person is much more rare than it seems. Man's nature has good and bad sides, just like woman's does...And in the end, it's a very much individual thing that depends on many other factors. I'm never gonna go around and say how grateful I am for men when there are probably millions of openly disgustingly evil men. Same goes to women. The gender debate was always stupid from the beginning because it's absolutely pointless lol

retal1ator · 2020-07-31T23:23:19+00:00

Men are strong. They’re resilient, persistent. Responsible. Kind. Gentle. Sensitive and deserving of the utmost respect and love.

Thank you!

Why do we (other girls) treat men like they’re nothing? Why do we think it’s okay to bash men like this in private?

Because women live in a society where their whole needs are fulfilled by the state with a strong contribution by men, but often not in a direct way. They just never see the work it took and it still takes to maintain society and provide. Therefore, they think men are useless because they don't even realize how much they give for granted.

Is this really ‘empowerment’? Is this really what building women up looks like? Or are we just tearing down men instead?

This is total insanity. It's literal insanity.

how do we respond when people tell us these sorts of things? I find it easiest to just laugh along and act half-offended but I’m really getting sick of it now. I have guy friends and they are not trash, they’re some of the kindest human beings I’ve ever known. And I hate that I laugh along with my girlfriends who say that men are trash, just to avoid any conflict. I want to change, and I think more of us need to speak up when we encounter this behaviour.

When they say these things, you should jokingly remind them that without men none of them would have what they have today. You could say "hahaha yeah men are trash, even tho without them we wouldn't be able to X or Z". Hope that helps make you feel better.

noodlespicy · 2020-07-31T19:47:37+00:00

I have only one friend who I can always complain to whenever I see women blaming all men for their problems when really, they probably just met one man that was bad to them or a few of them. All the rest truly believe that "all men bad" and the more alarming thing is that sometimes it's the girls who have had almost no experience with men (even when counting boys as well) or no negative experiences. They just bandwagon like most women do because they don't want to be called a pick-me for defending their man or just men in general. Social media has just perpetuated this term into some sort of statement that shows "empowerment". But I recently saw a woman say that in some cases, these women are the same ones that are actively seeking or pursuing a good man like the rest of us. I don't know when it became a bad thing to just be real about that. Why do we have to hide the truth to our girlfriends just because we're scared of being ostracized by them?

CuppyBees · 2020-07-31T18:58:45+00:00

I've never had a friend say this around me but I think responding confused/shocked would make them think about what they said? Idk I'd probably say something like "wait..what? No they're not dude, my husband isn't trash. Is your dad/brother/friend trash?" And go from there.

It does bother me to see it so casually thrown around online though; my dad is such an amazing person and fought so hard to get custody of us and protect us from our trash mother. Seriously not an easy thing to do, even now, but especially like 20 years ago. The woman in my life (bio and step mom) were completely irresponsible, over-dramatic, a vindictive liar, borderline unstable and made it very clearly that they mattered more than we did. I've never even raised my voice because I'm terrified of acting like one of them.

This of course isn't true for all women but a lot of them seem to believe that they have to be harsh, loud, and aggressive to be taken seriously. I used to be a lot like that, although I didn't hate men, I just thought I needed to be tough. Sort of like how little dogs flip out over nothing a lot to appear more dangerous? Lol. I really wish it was more normal to un-learn aggressiveness and practice controlling our anger. Maybe the difference is that men are expected to be calm and in control or they could be considered dangerous, but women aren't held to the same standard. Like those social experiment videos of men being abused by women and vice versa, with the women it's a joke no matter how far it goes, but with guys even defending themselves is considered abusive.

masterdarthrevan · 2020-08-01T01:10:50+00:00

Thank you

2020-08-02T18:11:59+00:00

Agreed. I really hate the hashtag #WasteHisTime. So disrespectful.

JD_XJ · 2020-08-27T15:20:07+00:00

Thank you for your words

HumbleHerald · 2020-09-22T01:56:59+00:00

I’ve tackled for a while with the feeling of invalidity I have for being, not just a human being, (prone and apparently answerable to all evils and vices committed) but a male. I am barraged on the Internet and by friends with anecdote after philosophization after rant regarding the toxicity inherent to my league of our species.

I’ve dealt with feeling awful for being attracted to people, thinking I’m proving myself the conduit of vileness and subhuman instinct spoken of when perverts and misogynists are described.

And watching this x-sided war of the genders going on these last few years, hearing the crimes of other people with XY chromosomes being laid at my feet, wasn’t helpful.

Reading what you’ve written here, though, is something special. Thank you for saying it.

Sean02281986 · 2020-12-05T06:23:38+00:00

You are amazing.

Violetta311 · 2020-08-01T01:31:47+00:00

Sounds like you’re more mature than your friends. In my experience women who talk like that feel really disempowered in their relationships and date men who treat them like crap. Maybe it’s time to seek out new friends.

Banincoming · 2020-08-01T07:09:27+00:00

I was in school in the 90s, and was taught that sexism and sexists are evil. Sadly I find many ladies to be "evil" nowadays. :(

lafindublonde · 2020-07-31T18:42:45+00:00

The dating world is a nightmare, a lot of childish men and women out there. If they’re choosing to waste their time with shitty immature men then that’s all they’re seeing. And I bet those men are saying to their friends “Women are dumb bitches.” I have a great man. It was clear from the beginning what type of man he is.

ihearthandbags · 2020-07-31T18:39:58+00:00

There are men that feel similar negativity towards women. Both sides get to this place because of negative experiences. We can’t say all women or all men are great, that is a dangerous mentality. If your friends have had to deal with men that treated them poorly you can remind them that not all men are bad, that they need to raise their standards, regroup their priorities. Just keep it positive and light hearted. Sometimes we need our friends to open our eyes to new prospectives.

kcur42 · 2020-08-03T07:36:11+00:00

"Men shouldn’t just have a job to provide for their entire family - they’re expected to cook and clean too"

I think this is based off of neoliberal nuclear family ideology. most real-world families are more balanced. also, most middle class families can't survive off of a single income. So I don't think this argument has much validity, imo. All families are different.

"And their mental health levels are so much lower than ours, and they die prematurely compared to us women too. If anything, they need more assistance."

This is very true. I think the majority of men (in our culture) have a terrible predisposition to avoid feelings, empathy and self reflection. I think all people should be in therapy. I think all men should be willing to have emotional conversations with one-another. It is true that more feminine people/women are more likely to build emotional support systems and community with their female counterparts. I don't think the statement "men are trash" was created to counteract the fact that men struggle too. I hope nobody actually thinks men are emotionless robots. I hope.

I’d be in a whole lot of trouble if I said “women are trash”

I'm a young woman. I know that not "all men" are "trash". However, I do feel as though I have been degraded and treated with a lack of respect from men. In turn, that they treat me as though I am disposable, and an object. Every day. On campus, at work, at the bus stop, on the internet. I can infer that it largely has to do with hyper-sexuality and some sort of superiority complex coming from men, because it is always sexual harassment. I want any man to imagine being a 17 year old girl. To imagine having to deal with older male customers at work making sexual comments about them every day. Not being able to go out alone at night, because you live in a city. Getting catcalled every time you go out with friends. It doesn't make me feel empowered- and it's only coming from men.

I would much rather have an internet joke about my gender as a whole (which their are plenty) than have to deal with daily sexual harassment, and the occasional sexual assault.

From my perspective; "men are trash" has been a response to the ways in which an alarming amount of men are sexually impatient and disregard consent. Not all men do this, we know that. Any woman who has had consensual interactions with a man knows this.

Me and my friends don't talk about men being "worthless trash". If we are criticizing men as a group, we mention how we have harassed by them. We mention how we can often be scared of them, feel undermined by them, etc.

That being said, any statement that oppresses any group is inherently bad. I just have trouble empathizing with this one, but maybe that's just me.

So I have nothing against the ideas behind "men are trash". As a blanket statement, it's offensive. From an anthropological viewpoint, maybe statements like this were created by woman as a defensive mechanism. To take back the power.

Adding on to this, I hear a lot of men say "Imagine if I called women bitches, sluts, hoes, whores, thots" (the list goes on into oblivion). Those are sexually degrading terms. "Trash" does not, and will not ever compare. So I don't find validity in that argument either.

Edit: I know men face sexual assault and harassment too. But statistically much less often, and that is 100% because of gender.

Wolfssenger · 2020-07-31T19:36:31+00:00

If you expose yourself only to trash then you might think that's all there is. It's the opposite side of the incel "all women are (insert offensive term)". While the reason they get there might be different, the fact of the matter is neither side is right and neither have put in the requisite work or made the correct choices to experience otherwise.

Noodlesoupe2 · 2020-07-31T21:26:36+00:00

It’s like men say bitches ain’t shit. They don’t actually mean it.

n2mypsykee · 2020-07-31T19:31:01+00:00

You attract when you give out gurrrl

To step down a bit, I understand why a woman with trauma that was caused by a man would say this

HappilyMrs · 2020-08-01T07:10:14+00:00

There are trash men, and trash women. However, trash men seem to be a lot more vocal and obvious, and a lot more likely to do trash things that get them media coverage. I feel bad for the good men just trying to do the right thing, who look after their families and communities, aren't violent or criminal or make others feel intimidated. The bad guys draw attention, and get men generally a bad name. The bad women are more subtle generally.

KelVarnsenStudios · 2020-08-01T09:44:25+00:00

We polarize people. We are either extremely shitty or we do great things.

TheBunk_TB · 2020-08-01T14:12:39+00:00

Ex GF once said something just like your quotation in the 1st paragraph:

"I told my best friend (deleted) that we could get married if I keep breaking up with my boyfriends".

I got fired shortly after. Then she fired another guy. She finally got married to this one cat, and I worry for him.

She had said some vile things about all men. This was a learning experience for me, I hope other men/women learn from it. It isnt flattering and it makes you look bad.

squideye62 · 2020-08-01T21:27:57+00:00

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Mazurroo · 2020-08-02T00:11:06+00:00

The problem is that majority of men(I am man) I could know for 21 years of my life were actually jerks. The problem is, that it goes from both sexes, men and women eventually WILL be jerks if they can be jerks without consequences. So the majority of people acting in some way are causing this stereotypes to be generalised on entire society. The fact is, that nowadays culture won't help fighting with this fact, so sadly I would say, that 'general value' of men will be decreasing, because nobody even treats seriousely things like: -shorter life, more suicides, more work accidents, worse mental health, worse society looks on problems f.e mental as men. Men usually doesn't get help while they are suffering mentally, or they are being said "BE STRONGER, YOU ARE MAN". In my case noone even cared when I got sick, it was just "its all in your head, you are man, you can't be such miserable guy". If you have mental problems, and you don't have enough strong will to change it - you are screwed. Tldr: 'Men value' will decrease, since our society lets it happen and sadly it won't be stopped.

Eklen · 2020-08-05T22:53:26+00:00

Men are okay.

Kinkajou87 · 2020-08-07T16:10:14+00:00

I respond by getting personally offended by that statement, even while being a woman.

I have a partner, father, grandfather, friends, and relatives who are men who are nothing but sweet and kind, who want the best for everyone and have worked hard their whole lives. How dare someone make a statement like that about them.

They are clearly the ones with hate in their heart, not men in general.

2020-08-08T13:45:03+00:00

Men aren't great and amazing as a whole. There are great guys and, well, trash.

Men call women sluts, cum dumpsters and many more. Check out red pill and mgtow subreddits. And the ones who do deserve being disrespected. When women say that men are trash, they mean these awful, trashy dudes.

And I hope that you feel the same way about red pill dudes calling women awful names.

december120 · 2020-08-12T23:38:38+00:00

I dont think men are trash, but I do hate all men. I have yet to meet one that isn't stupid, or hasn't disappointed me.

taysn995 · 2020-08-24T18:41:51+00:00

Actually, I'm a guy and I'm a piece of shit tbh.

TheLeaNights · 2021-01-03T01:52:40+00:00

I'm a Sex worker and I hear this alot. I see it alot. I do tend to agree with you. Though I still see the reasons why people are saying this, my work phone would have you screaming into the air men are trash and you wouldn't be wrong in your anger, but I don't class them as men.

I've had this conversation with some of my closer co workers and they tend to agree. Have you ever had this discussion with your friends? You might get them to change the way they look at that statement.

ALOT of people say this carelessly. It's like the all men are rapists argument. Which I also think is a trash statement.

And then I think of my clients.

The man who can only utter "please" "thank you" "sorry" & "Lea" in english and sees me as a cure for loneliness because his family isn't in the country.

The guy who's wife died but still craves physical contact, comes to see me because he feels like he's cheating on her if he were to go out and meet someone new.

The socially awkward fellows who ( by the dozen) ask for tips and tricks to meet and please women.

These, by the way are the people described as "buyers of sex" & "guys who like to abuse women" by most of society.

Men do seriously get a bad wrap. When in reality it's a smaller number shouting louder than the rest.

Banincoming · 2020-08-01T03:02:52+00:00

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fairydust91 · 2020-08-03T11:48:48+00:00

I agree but I think it's worth pointing out that just as men are expected to go to work AND help around the house, so are women. In fact, more so than men. So while I generally love men, I do think this argument is invalid. Both genders work now but women still do most of the housework.

takisntortillachips · 2020-07-31T18:47:52+00:00

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Title	Men are trash.
Author	squideye62
Upvotes	471
Comments	125
Date	July 31, 2020 6:09 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/RedPillWomen
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen/comments/i1cex1/men_are_trash/
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