'It's too late to start whingeing now': Feminist Germaine Greer slams #MeToo campaign by saying actresses 'spreading their legs' for Harvey Weinstein was 'tantamount to consent'

ee4m · 2018-01-22T10:29:45+00:00

Got to hand it to her for never being afraid of controversy and saying the most contrarian things.

And behind all this Harvey whatshisname stuff is what Cory Feldman has been talking about for years.

juanml82 · 2018-01-22T15:17:56+00:00

Just your reminder that Weinstein was accused of rape, as in, women said "no" and he still proceded to grope them, eat them out, or other stuff covered under NDAs

fengpi · 2018-01-22T10:34:45+00:00

Greer says the stuff that all the other feminists are way too image-conscious and passive-aggressive to say.

Tedesche · 2018-01-22T13:32:27+00:00

Oof. Coming from Greer herself. Just goes to show how departed millennial feminists are from their older sisters. Music to my ears. Would love to hear the standard Reddit feminist dismiss Greer as “not a real feminist” over this.

EDIT: One question for her though—why’d she wait this long? Kinda makes me wonder if she was waiting for it to be ‘safe’ after the bubble burst....

MWcrazyhorse · 2018-01-22T15:21:54+00:00

Agreed and quite brave to go against the mob. But Harvey is a bad example. We have him on tape. He is being more than just pushy.

2018-01-22T15:32:18+00:00

It's incredibly amusing to see these feminist icons like Germain Greer and Margaret Attwood, who young female celebrities constantly quote and hold up as their heros, then turn on them and call their actions bullshit. It seems to leave the young female celebrities absolutely dumbfounded (because they don't have any genuine thoughts of their own, just whatever is popular). It's just Gloria Steinem remaining who seems to still care tremendously about being liked by these young women.

splodgenessabounds · 2018-01-22T12:23:25+00:00

I’ve been agreeing a lot with Greer lately. This worries me.

Electroverted · 2018-01-22T14:56:28+00:00

I dated an actress last year, and asked her about MeToo. She rolled her eyes at me and said, "Please, if I had a story, my career would be in such a better place right now."

bobert3469 · 2018-01-22T13:14:27+00:00

These bitches kill me. "Oh boo hoo, I got a million dollar career in exchange for sexual favors! He must have raaaped me !". Bitch that's not rape, it's prostitution!

cajunrevenge · 2018-01-22T14:10:23+00:00

I would say the cases of sex for helping their careers is not sexual assault so long as they had a choice. If anything its prostitution which, according to our arbitrary justice system, makes them both guilty. If its not prostitution then I am going to start a business where women have sex with you for promises of future money and if you dont pay up I report it as a rape. Apparently the only way its illegal is if you pay up front.

MydnightRose · 2018-01-22T13:15:56+00:00

Glad to see my thoughts being shared. These actresses went willingly on the couch and kept their mouths shut so they could become famous; now years later they want to cry "I'm a victim". Bitch please, should have kept your legs closed.

bumbuff · 2018-01-22T16:46:33+00:00

I'm certain that a lot of the women Harvey slept with came to him knowing all they needed to do to get their shot at making it big was sleeping with him or something similar.

But I'm also certain a few women that disagreed with that approach may have been pressured.

It's going to be difficult to figure out who were truly pressured and who just showed up to his hotel simply by being asked?

trygold · 2018-01-22T16:20:52+00:00

I don't think deffending Weinstein is good for mens rights. It is as counter productive as anything the most radical feminist has ever done or said. The man and men like him are not representative of what a man should be or how a man should act.

Nobody should use a position of power to coerce anyone into a sexual act. This should be the position men's rights takes on that issue .

BeholdTheHair · 2018-01-22T18:59:11+00:00

"Tantamount to" nothing. You (general you, not Greer) fucked your way to fame. Own it.

Note, I ain't judging. Might well have done the same in their position. You use what you have and do what you can to get ahead. May not be pretty or proper, but that's life. Just don't come crying about it later looking to double dip on your deal. Especially not when it made you absurdly fucking wealthy.

matrix2002 · 2018-01-22T16:27:41+00:00

She has a point. I have heard more than one woman on a podcast say that while they clearly think he was monster, if they had had the opportunity to suck his dick for a million dollar role, they would probably do it.

It gets really blurry about what is consent and what constitutes rape or sexual harassment.

For me, what's weird is how women are constantly trying to convince each other that they are strong.

I think guys mainly grow up with this mentality that if you are not strong, it's your fault and if someone picks on you, you need to bitch slap them in the face.

The idea is that by projecting weakness, you invite people to prey on you.

The whole me too movement has important elements that we need to figure out.

Men are clearly to blame, but women need to get their shit together too. By not reporting sexual violence or harassment, you encourage the person to keep doing it.

I know it's not easy, but standing up for yourself:

1) Prevents it from happening to you again.

2) Can prevent it from happening to other people.

And women need to realize that just because they feel like something was sexual in nature, that doesn't mean it was. Just like men don't understand women, women don't understand men as well.

And lastly, it sucks because I feel like I can't speak honestly about this except on the internet anonymously because of the backlash that would result from someone in my social life or work.

Mythandros · 2018-01-22T17:29:42+00:00

Oh, the hypocrisy.

If anything shows how dishonest and manipulative feminists are, this does.

First feminists are calling for women to be able to do anything they want... Now they are shaming other women for doing exactly what feminism wanted in the first place.

Oh, the irony. It's delicious.

fluidlogic3 · 2018-01-22T14:11:11+00:00

Yup groupies spread for anyone famous no matter how old or ugly. Celebrities get as much sex as they want all the time. Women are just sluts to them.

ThePigmanAgain · 2018-01-22T23:30:46+00:00

Germaine Greer -- she was an internet troll before the internet even existed. She's about as credible as Alex Jones, but not as entertaining.

DevineRetribution · 2018-01-22T16:50:27+00:00

I don't know who she is, or what she's famous for, but I was disgusted when I saw this, I know there are ore recent interviews along the same lines, this is the first I found with Lana Del Rey making it sound like she slept around to try to make it.

"You know, I have slept with a lot of guys in the industry, but none of them helped me get my record deals. Which is annoying."

Full article including more of her bullshit. I really hope it's satire.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/lana-del-rey-slept-lot-guys-industry-article-1.1876920

Im not saying she accused anyone of rape, but the mind-set is clearly out there to do this.

The_0bserver · 2018-01-22T16:38:26+00:00

Hey. Lets not go there shall we? That guy was clearly someone in power. He knew how to use it, and he abused it. Lets call rape rape. Whether guys do it or girls.

chambertlo · 2018-01-23T00:10:56+00:00

A woman saying the truth about other women? I am legitimately shocked.

TibsKirk · 2018-01-23T02:06:37+00:00

The same woman who posed lovingly over a teenage boy with his genitals covered in rose petals for her book The Beautiful Boy.

Lupinfujiko · 2018-01-23T02:33:07+00:00

Why are there calls to "end" Woody Allen's career now? Dylan has been loudly telling that story for 20 years.

Either he did it, or he didn't. If he did it, why weren't there calls 20 years ago? If he didn't, then WHAT THE FUCK?

In any event, it's weird. The societal level of belief has skyrocketed, and I can't really understand why.

2018-01-23T09:16:15+00:00

Good for her. If someone was really raping women, they’d have fought back, screamed for help.

I didn’t see scars on this man’s face. I didn’t see videos of him pining a woman down forcefully as she screamed.

I saw a really pathetic video of him begging for attention from a woman and saying “please please please please”.

This guy is not some hardened, sociopathic rapist.

He’s a loser who happens to have a lot of power, and because of that, sluts wanted to sleep with him to fastrack their career. And now that they have what they want, they want to keep climbing to the top on a mountain of male corpses.

Disgusting.

ilovenotohio · 2018-01-23T10:51:35+00:00

Oh, do we like Germaine "I love photos of naked boys" Greer now?

kellykebab · 2018-01-22T19:12:04+00:00

I really hate the British spelling of whining.

AditKhan90 · 2018-01-22T15:53:29+00:00

you would assume that women can figure that out for themselves...but what a world we live in

omegaphallic · 2018-01-22T14:38:25+00:00

"Most controversially, she called for authorities to ditch the concept of rape as a crime in favour of a 'coherent law of sexual consent'"

She wants to get rid of rape as a crime and WE ARE TGE RAPE APOOGISTS?!?!?!?

she doesn't think rape is a crime, it's just an every day occurrence, WTF?

Feminists get crazier every fucking day, I just can keep up with the craziness.

Title	'It's too late to start whingeing now': Feminist Germaine Greer slams #MeToo campaign by saying actresses 'spreading their legs' for Harvey Weinstein was 'tantamount to consent'
Author	furchfur
Upvotes	859
Comments	205
Date	January 22, 2018 9:50 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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