The Best Advice From Red Pill Isn't Red Pill Specific

Mobrowncheeks · 2021-08-13T17:41:48+00:00

Because common knowledge for dating specifically tends to be “ be yourself”. “ don’t change for anyone” “looks don’t matter” “ just be kind “.

While obviously everyone should be striving to be the best version of themselves, general dating advise previous to red pill would never discuss actually becoming someone worth being with, but go to say that everyone will get someone, which we know isn’t true

AidsVictim · 2021-08-14T03:35:47+00:00

So why do you need The Red Pill if their best advice is common knowledge across the entirety of the internet regardless of race, gender, or political beliefs?

Because most men will still be average attractiveness after improving themselves as best they can (obviously they should be working on that regardless) and have to deal with being treated like average men by their counterparts. Average (and over time even attractive men) commonly have to deal with women treating them as disposable, having their masculinity or confidence tested, gaining and/or keeping attraction over time, red flags for negative behaviour etc. Some men are attractive enough to not have to worry about this stuff too much (a relatively small percent) or understand it naturally, a lot don't, hence TRP.

The self help stuff in TRP is useful but not the interesting part - it's insight into common female sexual/romantic psychology which doesn't really exist anywhere else (antecedent PUA stuff kind of does but is mostly just junk). Of course you can argue it's not practically useful or correct, but enough men seem to find success or at least gain better understanding of their situation with it that it's going to remain popular.

passepar2t · 2021-08-13T21:06:45+00:00

Disagree. Self-improvement is window dressing.

The core of TRP is: "This is how women are. This is how women want. This is how women behave. Plan accordingly."

The best advice teaches men what women actually want to fuck instead of the polite social fictions we all grew up with. For example: women say they want virtue but fuck assholes, why? Well, red pill has an explanation.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-08-13T17:58:14+00:00

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ToughAnswers · 2021-08-13T17:40:18+00:00

TLDR: I hope people who find the RedPill and see some results from it don't see it as proof of TRP's effectiveness when it's actually the fact that they've started investing in their lives.

Well isn't it? The medium is the message or something like that. For example, 70% of american adults are overweight or obese and thus eating themselves into an early grave, some other similarly high percentage are unhealthily sedentary, etc

Apparently, dryly dispensing diet and exercise advice is insufficient to induce people to do what they need to do

If it works, it works

Lateralanouncer · 2021-08-13T21:56:30+00:00

The bottom line is no one is teaching men what to do in the casual modern dating market. We hit the wall as soon as we try tinder etc. then we have to climb over it or give up. As a man everyday I’m told what I’m doing is wrong. I jump in my 600+hp car that I hand built and people have something negative to say more often than not people attack my masculinity. He must small penis etc no I just like building shit I take my bobber for a spin same thing. I become successful same thing. Then I hit the gym same thing.

This video came on my YouTube feed and I thought it summed up why men take the red pill. https://youtu.be/LVdu74BYTwQ

And like anything masculine it is under attack.

Sad_Top1743 · 2021-08-13T18:03:30+00:00

I work out with dudes who struggle dating, its not the best advice from TRP unless you are in terrible shape to begin with.

I think creating Abundance and Frame are the best advice from TRP

TheSunshineMan · 2021-08-13T18:07:24+00:00

Seems like you're just cherry picking a few things to make it seems like that's all Red Pill is about.

I don't see the point of this post as either you've spent no time in the sub or just purposely leaving out the other 90%.

Tek_Analyst · 2021-08-13T19:39:11+00:00

There are other things in TRP that you aren’t listing.

For example, why do you need to invest in yourself?

It’s the mindset that TRP teaches. You come first.

I’m addition the basic stuff you just mentioned there’s:

abundance mentality
The nature of women (AWALT.)

It’s not that you should take these things as gospel. With everything YMMV. But having an abundance mentality even without the abundance is powerful. Simply because you’ve had abundance and know you can get it. Oneitis is a terrible thing.

Understanding fundamentally what women want and expect gives you the freedom of choice.

Do I want a relationship and choose the responsibility of maintaining it. If so, you have the tools to be successful.
Do I want to have a ton of partners. If so, you have the tools.

The biggest issue men have before RP is that they don’t understand gender dynamics and don’t understand that the movie stuff is fake. Once that veil is lifted, and they see women for what they are/want. They have the freedom to move forward in the way that suits them best.

In TRP, generally speaking that’s taught and learned in a tough way. Some people become more toxic, some get more broken and some just get it.

AlfaRed2000 · 2021-08-13T21:40:13+00:00

You are correct with a caveat:

The issue is that what the red pill preaches is not seen as mainstream.

Read hard books--sounds like a good idea.
Lift heavy weights--sounds like a good idea.
Eat a clean diet--sounds like a good idea.
Question "the truth"--sounds like a good idea.
Don't allow other people to be your value--sounds like a good idea.

"BUT THOSE GUYS USE MEAN WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!"

Here's a newsflash for you: We are now more offended by words than actions.

Aldabruzzo · 2021-08-13T18:46:44+00:00

Two things:

1) The world downplays the importance of exercising, grooming, and dressing well - because it tells men "looks aren't all that important; we love "nice guys", we hate guys who lift, we hate the 'muscular' look", and other such bullshit. What TRP does is make clear that that stuff IS important, and tells you not to listen to everyone else.

So, no, the best advice from TRP might just be "stop listening to non-Red Pill."

2) I'm not sure the confidence/work on yourself red pill advice is the "best". What I think is the best advice is telling these guys the truth about female sexual nature, and discarding all the "women are wonderful" bullshit the world feeds these men. The entire world actively lies to men about what women really do find attractive.

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-08-13T17:47:06+00:00

The specific advice branched off into the black pill ala rules 1 and 2:

Be attractive
Don't be unattractive

Those words are loaded, of course, as they mean "just be genetically fortunate, bro."

They can't exactly give specific advice like "dye your hair dirty blonde and buy your clothes from Express Men's" because everyone has their own look that will go best with them. They can't simply copy-paste or wear whatever looks good on someone else.

Sid_Insidious · 2021-08-13T19:16:28+00:00

You've missed 90% of what Red Pill is if you think it's Lift Bruh and get a nice haircut.

Red Pill teaches (warns) men about human female nature.

Red Pill teaches us that not all men are equal, and society - and individual women - have different uses for different men.

It instructs men to take a very hard and difficult look at which man they are in the SMP.

It instructs men to ignore lies like "Just be yourself" or "just be more alpha".

It teaches men how to avoid certain relationship and financial death traps.

It teaches men the realities of female hypergamy, and it's long term costs. Divorce. Alimony. Child support. And also taxes to pay for the reproductive choices of other people.

So, I disagree with you. 1000%.

Red Pill is a survival guide for any man who might take notice of his erection and decide he wants to do something with it other than wack it off.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-08-13T17:54:38+00:00

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TheJim66 · 2021-08-13T18:20:15+00:00

YOU think it's the best advice. This is just step 1.Frame, preselection, dread, how alpha traits and beta traits differ from eachother, general game, how to adapt to the modern SMP etc. etc. is the juicy stuff. Lifting, while crucial and underemphasized by women and the mainstream, is not enough to get what you want out of women consistently.

Whisper · 2021-08-13T21:35:15+00:00

You don't know which parts of redpill advice do what, and why.

This is just what you think, based on your speculation. You haven't tested anything, and you reject the conclusions of those who have, so you can think what you want to think.

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Mustbeaight · 2021-08-14T02:58:29+00:00

I love how TRP goes from “it’s all bullshit and toxic incel misogyny” to “it was just common sense bro" which one is it

michael1962-01 · 2021-08-14T05:38:29+00:00

Invest. In. You.

Not into wahmynsss...

That easy.

They'll follow

boomershack · 2021-08-14T11:57:48+00:00

Red pill taught me how to avoid paying taxes. 🤣

earsurgery9 · 2021-08-14T12:18:28+00:00

game is just basic social skills, tbh

I'ts not attraction. That comes from whether she thinks you're hot or not. It's easy stuff. Don't over-complicate it

JameisBong · 2021-08-14T13:59:18+00:00

It's not, exercise, make money and remain blue pill. Just make sure you are living the best version of yourself. That's literally it.

betabucks666 · 2021-08-14T14:18:18+00:00

So why do you need The Red Pill if their best advice is common knowledge across the entirety of the internet regardless of race, gender, or political beliefs?

In short, reveals the unflattering nature of women and how to deal with it.

That is why of course we must improve to not get bend over. It's that simple.

Submersiv · 2021-08-13T19:21:45+00:00

RedPill advice isn't new, it's a repackaging of millennia old wisdom from religion, etc. The reason people need it now is because religion has died in the west and the culture has turned into a clown circus that has indoctrinated the general population into lies that go AGAINST the "common knowledge".

stats135 · 2021-08-13T18:29:52+00:00

(X positive attribute) isn't specific to Y therefore Y isn't good and there is no need for it.

What is this logic?

Outrageous_String339 · 2021-08-13T18:43:22+00:00

You're getting it backwards, this was redpill then crossed over into bluepill when it couldn't be debunked. Going to the gym a lot made you a gymrat back in the day the same way liking D&D and video games used to be a legitimate failo.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-08-13T18:45:14+00:00

Of course not, it's just good branding oh, it's not much different than a lot of The Fad diets that pop up, Common Sense knows that you're not supposed to overdo it on sugar and high calorie high fat foods and that the more natural stuff you consume in your body the better, but I mean let's be real, some people have to be reminded to actually drink water lol

xFallacyx69 · 2021-08-13T19:34:46+00:00

What separates red pill from everyone else is they explain that sexual chemistry is counter to what you would think. “Women just like bad boys” is broken down into “putting women on a pedestal makes their vagina dry up”… it’s ruthless advice meant to cater to results not “feelings”… is it 100% accurate? Fuck no… but WORLDs better than Bloop shit

IndependenceSoft3250 · 2021-08-13T21:40:21+00:00

Nobody says otherwise, men's health is very important to red pill. So is men's rights, the misconception that it's all whining about women is just a misconception, an especially false one.

DerekMorganBAU · 2021-08-14T13:46:44+00:00

The "toxicity" (read: the things women don't like to hear) are the best part though.

Raw unabashed commentary on the state of the current dating market and women in general in an unfiltered manner is stress relieving for most men.

My thoughts are actually more "extreme" than TRP but at the end of the day its a toolbox and I like to give tools out for men to use and I don't have time to filter my advice to be "pleasent" for women's ears because that's what this all comes down to.

"Give good (women approved 👏🙌👌🙏) advice!!!"

Yea no thanks we'll do it our way

Title	The Best Advice From Red Pill Isn't Red Pill Specific
Author	Neither_Works
Upvotes	25
Comments	163
Date	August 13, 2021 5:14 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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