And they aren’t treated well either!

Orange_Paisley · 2021-05-23T14:00:49+00:00

Not to mention the men can be 40, 50, 60 but the women they date are in their mid 20s at most.

M1nette · 2021-05-23T15:39:50+00:00

That is not love, it is lust and wishful thinking on part of the guys. And who funds those movies? I bet it is mostly other guys. If women were in charge, we would see very different plots.

vforvendetta87 · 2021-05-23T16:42:12+00:00

THIS. Unfortunately, thanks to popular culture, I grew up with the mindset that only young and beautiful women were only worthy of love and happily-ever-after. This narrative is so toxic because it discredits the existence of “normal” and “plain” women.

CynicalSucculent · 2021-05-23T18:55:51+00:00

It also teaches average/mediocre men that they are entitled to a 10/10 supermodel even if these men have the personality of an eggplant.

Peak_Tree · 2021-05-23T18:56:05+00:00

Reason number 920547594856635 I have not looked back since I boarded the wagon of asian dramas. They are not perfect but the inmense majority of what I've seen presents males leads as acomplished, handsome and age appropiate interests to their female counterparts.

InevitableHulk · 2021-05-23T15:50:01+00:00

Does anyone remember King of Queens? They totally played-up the whole “super hot woman married to overweight man-child” trope. I guess some parts were funny, but what soured me on that show was when Leah Remini (who started out at around a size 2) had a baby in real life and gained weight. She was dragged for being bigger than she was in previous seasons. Meanwhile, Kevin James could be as chubby as ever and nobody said a fucking word about that.

_mooness · 2021-05-23T18:07:11+00:00

I can’t believe it took FDS to make me see this double standard, but since then I can’t unsee it and it completely destroys a movie for me, to the point where I have no interest in continuing to watch it

EclecticBarbarella · 2021-05-23T15:08:25+00:00

It’s always a super hot, super functional and competent wife married to the “fun husband” who’s being nagged to death because she wants him to act like a functional adult and partner, and he just wants to be freeee to be an irresponsible jackoff and hang out with the boys and be cOoL, and why can’t she just let him be cool, she’s so unfun! There, I just wrote the next five Adam Sandler or Seth Rogen movies, Hollywood can thank me later.

Softrito · 2021-05-23T15:47:37+00:00

Transformers

nnanna11 · 2021-05-23T16:51:19+00:00

martin and gina. martin’s annoying ass was always disrespectful to pam (gina’s friend). shit wasn’t funny at all.

LynneStone · 2021-05-23T18:51:37+00:00

What I find most ridiculous is that you see tons of men complain about how terrible this stereotype is for men.

I don’t think it’s really good for men, but it’s presented as if it’s some sort of attempt to disparage men and lift women up.

all_or_nothing_bet · 2021-05-23T19:30:45+00:00

I laugh out loud when women in those movies look with adoration at those unattractive and plain bad male characters and go like "Wow wow wow, you are so handsome/attractive/awesome, etc. etc."

Hello, Mr. Director, take your meds because you are delusional as hell 🤣🤣🤣

I also feel bad for those actresses for having to kiss those elderly and ugly men for money and possibly some fame 🤢🤢🤢

jesymix14 · 2021-05-23T19:53:42+00:00

lol I just watched Chef last night... you're telling me Jon Favreau not only married Sofia Vergara and has Scarlett Johansson coming onto him at work, but he remarries Vergara at the end (after treating their kid like a servant the whole movie)? of course he wrote and directed it too.

Lost_Kale90 · 2021-05-23T14:59:44+00:00

It's setting impossible standards for women. And setting the bar low for men.

CokeMooch · 2021-05-23T21:39:24+00:00

It also sends the message that women lowering their standards, or settling for the lovable idiot screw-up is somehow normal or something to emulate. Why can’t they be on the same level for once?

(500) Days of Summer is a widely misunderstood movie for this reason, too. They set out to shake up the “nice guy + manic pixie dream girl” trope but it’s like it went over everyone’s head. The movie is about a guy who has frankly toxic and deeply dysfunctional views of love and relationships, who enters a fling with a coworker who tells him from the GATE that she doesn’t want anything serious. And audiences everywhere swear she’s a b!tch, or this or that or whatever bc she didn’t stay with Tom but like...Tom expected 100% of his happiness to come from her and she was just like, umm that ain’t even healthy like good luck with that but I def said I wasn’t into anything serious sooooo - thats on you? LOL. But ppl are like, “Omg why didn’t she stay with Tom she’s so horrible.” She wasn’t horrible, she was up front about all her intentions and standards and actually Tom’s pretty horrible if you watch the movie. But ppl are SO used to the “guy always gets girl” they don’t even have the capacity to CONSIDER that Zoey Deschanel’s char has her own wants, dreams, feelings etc. They just wanted her to give up her life to make Joseph Gordon Levitt’s char “happy” and “fulfilled” and it’s majorly infuriating tbh.

Amy Schumer does a joke where she says Rosario Dawson should’ve been awarded an Oscar for her performance in...ugh what’s it even called? Zookeeper?? Rosario Dawson plays a zoo worker who harbors a secret crush for KEVIN. JAMES. 🤢🤮And throughout the movie Kevin James is oblivious and ofc thirsts after someone else. But honestly can you even imagine someone like Rosario Dawson lusting after a Kevin James type dude LMAO it’s so ridiculous it’s comical at this point. There’s so many. Katherine Heigl faced a TON of backlash too for speaking out about her char in “Knocked Up”; She said how it was unfair and actually stupid that the female characters were pigeon-holed into nagging/bitchy roles simply bc the male characters were juvenile and immature, and that she resented the fact that her character came across as such a b!tch. She felt like it was a great injustice to the characters, esp someone like Leslie Mann’s bc she was actually quite fun-loving, and yet she couldn’t express that side of herself bc even Paul Rudd’s char as her husband was a totally inept, disappointing idiot.

Needless to say, they didn’t appreciate that honesty and her career took a major hit. Heaven forbid you try to call them out on this nonsense, like she seriously got black-listed basically just for speaking her mind about this topic.

playtonotlose · 2021-05-23T16:01:17+00:00

It also sends the message that males have a chance with highly attractive women while putting exactly zero effort into their own physical appearance.

woadsky · 2021-05-23T20:14:16+00:00

So much to unpack. Woman must put in the work and look fantastic and be in shape, men are not only acceptable but prized even if they don't take care of themselves, woman aren't expected to have higher standards, any woman who is less than the ideal isn't worthy enough for attention and love, and it's realistic for an unattractive man (in the sense that they don't better themselves) to attain a woman way, way out of his league...he is entitled (but of course not the other way around). Also, an age gap -- much older man, younger woman -- is taken in stride, but not the other way around.

Interesting_Day1188 · 2021-05-23T15:58:57+00:00

Even more so than this, that if their is an 'average' looking gf or wife, the guy openly talks about her looks, such as... 'yea, but she's a good girl' or 'but man she can cook' or 'but I know she's loyal'. As though, at least those things make up for her lack of beauty, in their eyes?

Hmtnsw · 2021-05-23T19:41:06+00:00

They were nice women too. Look at Princess Aurora. The victim of Maleificant only because her parents were rude to Maleificant. Aurora just wanted to be free to do her own thing. She sang with the birds like Snow White and Cinderella. All 3 women were sweet and understanding. I did think Prince Phillip was the most handsome out of the 3 men. The guy who pursued Cinderella was considered the most charming but he didn't fight a damn dragon to get to the girl. The dude who went after Snow White did so because she was claimed as the "fairest." Shallow.

If I've learned anything about women and men at my time at FDS is that being nice and sweet doesn't get you the HVM in the end. Just used and abused by LVM because "Men don't love women like you." - G. L. Lambert

Nifteroni-and-Cheese · 2021-05-24T03:09:14+00:00

One thing I had pointed out to me today was that colorism affects women in Hollywood way more then men. Almost all black women in major films/shows (looking at you Netflix originals) is light skinned or mixed race, where dark skinned male actors, while still facing discrimination, get to actually be in major productions. Example: rue and thresh in the hunger games were literally described as having the same skin color, but they casted a light skinned girl to play rue and a dark skinned boy to play thresh. They were both excellent, but the double standard is ridiculous.

It’s the combination of racism and sexism, combine “light skin and European looking features are more attractive” with “women and girls in film have to be the most attractive”, and you have a recipe for really inadequate representation.

HumanAdhesiveness360 · 2021-05-23T21:09:20+00:00

The misogyny has been woven in from biblical times and made it's way into our social norms. King of Queens, everybody loves raymond, According to Jim was the worst offender. Remember Shallow Hal?! Disgusting

4BigData · 2021-05-23T20:05:13+00:00

My father always noticed that March Simpson was way out of Homer's league.

melonmagellan · 2021-05-24T03:13:07+00:00

It also send the message that skinny scrotes can "get" hot women by stalking them.

bean-cake · 2021-05-23T19:50:28+00:00

Any Adam Sandler movie.

2021-05-24T05:01:58+00:00

file under Adam Sandler

randowordgenerator · 2021-05-23T17:27:11+00:00

In other news, water is wet.

Title	And they aren’t treated well either!
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Date	May 23, 2021 1:37 PM UTC (5 years ago)
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