Society needs to stop perpetuating the myth that women should settle for unattractive men because they'll be "nicer". Women should be allowed to date whoever they want whether men like it or not.

volcanic_equation · 2021-02-17T14:55:48+00:00

I gave the ugly guy from high school a chance. He followed me around for years. I thought, “looks aren’t that important”. “Give him a chance, he’s so nice!”

I ended up having to file for a restraining order 3 months after ending things. Not only was he self-loathing, lazy, and unattractive, but abusive as well.

He began stalking me. Waited by my car one night, while I finished my shift. He angrily confronted me, spat at me, then called me whore and ran off.

A person’s physical appearance has no bearing on how they’ll treat you or how good of a person they are.

Moral of the story? Don’t think that because you’re out of a guy’s league, he’ll treat you like a prize.

Don’t lower your standards, period.

giftofnocondemnation · 2021-02-17T15:06:10+00:00

The opposite is true. The fatter, uglier the man, the most abusive he is. The ugliest man I ever gave the time of day was by far the most verbally abusive. He put me down constantly. Men that know they are fat, old or ugly, or all three, will try to convince a woman that’s waaaay out of his league that he’s good enough for her. So he will put her down until she believes it. Never believe it ladies! You are God’s daughter and you’re worth gold.

circescircus · 2021-02-17T15:00:14+00:00

My grandma used to say, "Don't choose a man that's too good looking, because he'll be too conceited. And don't choose a man that's too ugly, because he'll be too insecure."

I love that she used the word "choose"... that I get to choose. I miss her so much.

I think this advice was a lot easier to follow back in the day, before social media and free porn you could get on a handheld device in seconds. Men these days think they are good looking when they are not, they seriously overestimate their looks. Back in the day there were only a few hot guys in the village, like the town's homecoming king, jock or hot shot. These men typically paired up with the village's beauty queen. Everyone else was just average, expected average, and people weren't so delusional and entitled. Most men understood they were just average, if not ugly. Men these days are also accustomed to seeing top 1% physicality women in social media and in media, it does not matter to them that these images are digitally altered, that these women had surgery and so on. Their average asses feel entitled to the village's beauty queen, and they get salty if not cunty, when a beauty queen (who splits the check and is into anal) doesn't ask them out or make herself easily available to them. And ugly guys have become radicalized, so yeah, don't expect gratitude from them-- expect abuse.

It's hard these days to find a man who isn't delusional and isn't fucking nuts, regardless of his looks. People in general have warped their brains with social media, but men are always the more extreme gender-- so what you will find out there will be quite extreme, and this is now the "new normal".

fdssavedmylife · 2021-02-17T17:19:34+00:00

I’ve only ever dated men who were unconventionally attractive at best. I’m demisexual, so it never bothered me, but rarely have other women found my partner attractive.

Yet they’ve all treated me terribly: abuse, pathological lying, porn addiction, triangulation, gaslighting... they all exhibited at least one of these traits. I strongly believe in the theory that once LVM know they “have” you, they immediately come to the conclusion they’re actually too good for you, value you less, and will start looking for something better. To put it in LVM terms: “Wait, this 6/10 is into me!? That must mean I deserve an 8 despite the fact that I look like Shrek’s ugly cousin.” If you give their ego an inch, they’ll take a mile.

I also think the more inadequate a man feels by comparison, the more he will fight to control, manipulate, and tear you down.

taylor232424 · 2021-02-17T15:06:46+00:00

People have always talked about me because I only date guys I am attracted to. They say as a woman I’m the pretty one and that’s that. I just don’t believe that.

Important_Page_6846 · 2021-02-17T14:07:36+00:00

Women aren’t on average more attractive than men like society keeps trying to convince us. Women just spend an ungodly amount of time to primp and prime ourselves for the male gaze. There desperately needs to come an age of men doing the same. If women stopped dating dudes who are ugly and unkept altogether there would at the very least be a larger amount of males who put in the effort. Only in a mentally ill, selfish males and brainwashed pick mes minds* is it acceptable to allow a male to penetrate a woman when he’s not even capable of wiping or cleaning his own ass.... it’s like reality escapes them and then they’re stuck raising these genetically inferior males children. Not only do I feel like I’m in the twilight zone the more I see this being common but it makes me feel as if though hell is an actual place on earth and it’s spreading through the male species.

relationship_reddit · 2021-02-17T17:26:16+00:00

I was with an ugly, obese man for years because he was nice and I felt like it would be rude to turn him down. He didn't try any harder than an attractive guy to please me. He wasn't better or more enthusiastic at sex. He wasn't good at giving gifts or planning things for holidays. He didn't have better hygiene or dress nicer. He didn't "treat me right" by showering me with plenty of attention and affection. He was a gaming addict who had poor hygiene, didn't give me attention, and didn't try at all to please me during sex. He was probably actually WORSE at everything than most men.

Don't let ugly men convince you to give them a chance because they are "nice". They won't appreciate you or treat you any better than an attractive man would, they'll just be harder to look at.

BetterToBeLonely · 2021-02-17T16:43:19+00:00

The only time I decided to give a really unattractive guy a chance, he ended up being really into sadism, unemployed, and filled my voicemail with 87 messages during a single shift I was at work.

I gave him a chance because if he had the guts to ask me out, maybe he had something else too. Nope, just a psycho.

2021-02-17T18:12:29+00:00

Women are blamed for being abused because they were "dumb" enough to think the guy liked them. Because he pursued her. Wow what a dumb person who is fooled by someone's actions and words.

Once again men are the problem.

melonmagellan · 2021-02-17T19:32:18+00:00

We all need to band together and tell the world "ugly guys are often insecure losers and the biggest abusers."

They aren't "nicer."

girl_in_red_costume · 2021-02-17T20:27:06+00:00

The shock when they realise ugly men can treat you as bad as a hot one...

drunkenwithlust · 2021-02-17T19:09:51+00:00

I gave the quiet nerdy virgin a chance. What I got was: lied, manipulated, guilted and physically abused. We would get in arguments and I'd try to leave, to go on a drive in my own car, and he'd lay on top of me to try to get me not to leave. He wasn't much bigger than my 5' ass, so I struggled away and locked myself in a room. Had to call a friend to rescue me. In my own apartment. UGH.

That relationship didn't last long even in my pickme days. I still had to live with his dumb ass. I feel bad for the one he knocked up after me. Bullet dodged.

This video is always welcome on this sub lol i love her energy

ponchoacademy · 2021-02-17T20:39:12+00:00

I've never heard of unattractive men being nicer. And my experience screams otherwise. Now first thing, it's not even about being "attractive" but who you're attracted to. A guy I don't think is attractive others might think is the hottest guy they know. So that's subjective.

Having said that, I've dated guys who weren't my type and key point here, were amazed someone that looks like me would date them/made comments theyre so lucky cause I'm out of their league. And every single time... The bs commences.

Either they are insecure because they feel they're at risk of losing me to someone more attractive, and get controlling and try to break me down to feel like they're the best I can do.

Or... They go wow if she's into me I must be hotter than I thought! Who else can I get with? And with all this new find confidence start trying to flirt and hook up with anything that moves.

So I stay in my lane and date guys I find attractive. Besides, I deserve to be with someone I'm attracted to. And it's not just about looks, I've been guys who look good but insecure, jealous, angry and have a gross personality. That's not attractive. And I've met guys not classically attractive, but charming, thoughtful, kind and people are drawn to their great energy. That's attractive.

And when I see guys whine about how were all about looks and women won't give them a chance over stuff that have no control over, they're missing the point. Being attracted to someone is more than what they look like. But they don't think that way about women, that's the only value they see in us, so they don't understand how their disgusting views and personally is what makes them unattractive.

uptownxthot · 2021-02-17T19:57:34+00:00

i even used to just sleep with men that weren’t that attractive to me... i shudder in horror how i even managed to do that 😭

2021-02-17T21:26:58+00:00

Physical attraction has nothing to do with how a relationship turns out. My ex bf was waaaaay below my league. I gave him a chance because we had chemistry and he was fun. He only wanted me if it was convenient. If I had any kind of issues I was on my own. If I was unhappy he thought he could just walk away until I "calm down". I didn't feel appreciated at all. My current bf looks 10 times better than the last one and treats me like a queen. Ladies, don't settle!

cherrycranberries · 2021-02-17T23:16:57+00:00

I like hot men like Jensen Ackles and supposedly he’s super nice to everyone. I actually think uglier men tend to be meaner because they think women don’t like them and act bitter about it. That’s my take on it.

Also, I want to kiss and be romantic with a hot dude. Who the fucks wants to kiss an ugly ass dude? Not me!

warinmymind94 · 2021-02-18T01:36:26+00:00

Big Ed from 90 day fiance is the perfect example of this. More fugly = More audacity, more gaslighting, more neggjng

perkypancakes · 2021-02-18T03:50:51+00:00

In my experience they are worse than physically attractive guys. It’s like they already feel miserable about their lack of good looks, personality, or morals, but since you an attractive female dated them their head inflates and they think they are God’s gift to women. Like what!? Fuck that!! I will never absolutely ever again go on a pity date or have pity sex with someone I am not attracted to in some way. Either I win or I learn and I already learned my worth and happiness rely on me to keep my standards high.

InterviewImaginary46 · 2021-02-18T05:00:16+00:00

Hideous guys are just as entitled, selfish, lazy, cruel, mean, as better looking guys are. They just offer nothing in the looks department. So you mean to tell me that I need to be with a loser that Im not even attracted to?? I cant lose everything in this lifetime, jeez.

level_up_always · 2021-02-17T20:37:58+00:00

What I did and check my post history to see how that turned out -_- never again chads from now on lol

TheSuspiciousChard · 2021-02-17T23:51:07+00:00

Ok, ok, I hear you. But plot twist... what if they are all shit and I don’t like any one of them one bit 😂

HornetKick · 2021-02-18T04:16:13+00:00

I love this. I work out. I expect the guy to work out, not come at me with your huge gut that I have to ignore and the titties on your chest I can't stop looking at. Don't even tell me the time of day because I didn't ask.

todaywedidit · 2021-02-17T19:32:48+00:00

“Women deserve to be into their partners”

Yes, we DO deserve that.

2021-02-18T02:18:46+00:00

The uglier guys I’ve given chance after chance to have ALWAYS turned out to be insecure or covert narcs using their shyness as a way to hide it

Krahmiin · 2021-02-17T22:20:29+00:00

Ah Lane Moore!! I follow her on IG, she makes a lot of good points and a lot of funny call-outs 😂

aellope · 2021-02-18T03:38:53+00:00

Even if unattractive men were nicer, who the hell would want a partner who isn't attracted to them? I wouldn't want a super hot dude if he wasn't also into me.

drfrankenfarter · 2021-02-17T16:53:03+00:00

Agreed 100%. My current boyfriend is the most attractive person I've dated and he also treats me the best I have been .

He is very physically active which I also think contributes to it as the endorphins from exercise make us happy . Sloppy, lazy dudes have no reason to be proud of themselves and aren't producing feel good hormones to pass along to others.

On the reverse ugly men and/or former military men have been the ones to treat me the worst . The ones society tells us to go for .

2021-02-17T23:40:08+00:00

This is far from true i have had situation-ships with men that look like the hair on my ass hole and have treated me like crap.. Physical appearance can not idicate how a person will treat you! Raise your standards ladies😘

Fun_Tangerine4494 · 2021-02-18T00:10:59+00:00

YES!!! Also, I love your hair!!!! 🤩

Mous3386 · 2021-02-18T01:58:24+00:00

They’re not nicer

AnniaT · 2021-02-18T19:56:44+00:00

Also some of the most cruel men I've come across were ugly men.

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