"Patriarchy hurts men too!"

jostyouraveragejoe2 · 2023-02-23T17:25:52+00:00

Great observation as always, it's funny when they say they fight for men when "fighting" the "patriarchy" but when it comes to actually solving men's problem at best crickets at worst well you showed what happens. By the way everyone what's a good citation for how many men die in war?

django62293 · 2023-02-23T19:50:15+00:00

Feminists tend to have a very “trickle-down gender equality” mentality when it comes to men. They believe that if we solved women’s issues, many men’s issues would be solved by proxy.

TheTinMenBlog · 2023-02-23T17:15:56+00:00

This is still an unpublished draft, so any notes on errors or feedback is welcome!

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If 'the patriarchy hurts men too', then why do I never see those parts being ‘smashed’?

Why are our noble gender equality advocates obsessed with the tiny number of ‘powerful men’ at the top, when millions more men lay in the gutters of homelessness, or scatter the battlefield of addiction, or waste away in our broken jail system?

Isn’t equality something we are all entitled to?

And what use are tears for these men?

Did you know more men die at work every year, than all the American military deaths from the entire 20 year Iraq war combined?

Or the fact that boys are failing in education; at every level, at every age group, and in virtually every developed nation on earth?

Did you know that gay men are less accepted than gay women in every country studied?

Or that men have lower life expectancy in every country in the world?

Did you know that in the year George Floyd was murdered, over 99% of black Americans killed by police, were black men?

What about the hundreds of studies and national surveys that show women and men are equally violent in relationships?

Or the fact that if we were able to make male mortality rates the same as female rates, we would do more good than curing cancer?

Like it, or hate it, throw you phone across the room if you like – these are all facts.

And whilst I enjoy telling people what they didn’t know, sometimes a more pertinent question is why you didn’t know it?

So who is dealing the cards here? Who is holding the microphone of discourse? Who is hogging podium? Who are you afraid of when you talk about these issues?

Who really has the power?

Why are you learning the essential facts from an unfunded Instagram account, rather than reading it on the headlines of newspapers?

Yes. Feminism has failed men and boys. And if you’re a man, or someone who cares about men, it has failed you too.

It has failed by neglecting, or even obstructing, the reality of what is going on to our men and boys, and replacing it with meagre calls for ‘male tears’ or ’talk’.

It has failed by interrupting the discourse and advocacy for men, with brittle shrieks and childish screams of ‘misogyny’.

So here’s a term we all know – feminism does the ‘bare minimum’ for men and boys, and that would be me being generous.

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Sources

[1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsofhomelesspeopleinenglandandwales/2021registrations

[2] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/261543769_References_Examining_Assaults_by_Women_on_Their_Spouses_or_Male_Partners_An_Updated_Annotated_Bibliography

[3]https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5986/text?r=16

[4] https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2586-men-die-young-even-if-old/

[5 ]https://www.ideassleepfuriously.com/p/my-favourite-parts-from-the-boy-crisis Workplace Death Police Homicide Detained Children Suicide UN Homicide Drug Deaths Military Deaths Incarcerated Population

Incarcerated Population

Images by Dimi Katasavaris, Joshua Rondeau, Lujia Zhang, Gradienta, Rene Bohmer from Unsplash.

McCasper · 2023-02-23T19:47:26+00:00

Great analysis. I just wished it focused more on how feminism often opposes men's rights issues. It seems more of direct counter to "patriarchy hurts men too" when you demonstrate that, in fact, feminism is responsible for a lot of men's woes. Ex: the harassment of Erin Pizzey when she tried to open domestic violence shelters for men too, the Duluth Model and feminism's support of it, etc.

ratherabsurd · 2023-02-24T01:56:43+00:00

Sometimes I feel when women talk about and think about "men" they mean something more closely resembling the chad meme and the wealthy and powerful. Most guys aren't even in the definition and are invisible.

shit-zen-giggles · 2023-02-24T03:41:46+00:00

Thanks for all the wonderful work you do tinman!

It's reminder of what we're fighting for and an inspiration to keep going.

Seriously, words can't really express how much I appreciate your work 🙏

hotpotato138 · 2023-02-23T19:23:34+00:00

Patriarchy doesn't exist currently.

Your_Nipples · 2023-02-25T00:15:35+00:00

Damn, I forgot this sub exists. I'm not crazy and I'm not alone.

Logen10Fingers · 2023-02-27T16:28:49+00:00

Can I get a source for the 5th slide. Genuinely asking.

mbrenizs · 2023-02-24T16:16:42+00:00

My philosophy is that smashing the patriarchy begins at home. There are still too many relationships and families where it is implicitly or explicitly the man who is the head of the household. We need to make a conscious effort for equal status or allow the woman of the house to become the head of the household. At a societal level, we cannot continue to balance the scales of equality by putting all the weights in the middle. Each family and relationship should decide which type of home they want to embrace. None are inherently wrong if coming from a place of love and respect; just different.

confusedthrowaway144 · 2023-02-23T19:58:18+00:00

Are women responsible for solving these problems, though? They didn't create them. Yes, it's stupid for some people to pretend that these trends aren't problems, but why can't men band together and address them?

Alternative_Letter95 · 2023-02-23T18:18:19+00:00

ain't no left wing here, who you kidding

Title	"Patriarchy hurts men too!"
Author	TheTinMenBlog
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Date	February 23, 2023 5:12 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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