Alabama bill would criminalize false rape accusations

lostapwbm · 2019-05-09T05:29:23+00:00

A bill making it a crime to falsely accuse someone of a sexual crime was first read in the Alabama House of Representatives last week.

Bout freaking time.

The bill, introduced by Rep. Dickie Drake, R-Leeds, would make falsely reporting a sex crime a Class C felony and punishable by up to 10 years in prison. If the accused was proven innocent, the accuser would be responsible for paying the accused person’s legal expenses.

See this?

This is what justice looks like.

Drink it in.

Drake said he decided to create the bill because of a friend whose ex wife falsely accused him and his new wife of sexually abusing their kids.

It kind of chaps my ass that the powerful aren't concerned about doing justice until injustice knocks on their door, but better late than never, I suppose.

peepeeandpoopooman · 2019-05-09T08:55:26+00:00

you mean it isn't already illegal to intentionally falsely someone of a very serious crime and ruin their life by doing so?

DisloX · 2019-05-09T15:05:57+00:00

well it’s nice to see something nice about my state for once.

row tie.

US_A · 2019-05-09T23:44:04+00:00

Anyway WE can support this bill?

jackblack2323 · 2019-05-09T11:48:10+00:00

People will probably say this will make rape victims scared to report rape

But those idiots don't realize that you'd only be in trouble if you were proven guilty of being not raped which is very hard. It should not affect rape victims at all and should only scare false rape accusers. And will legitimize real rape victims by making people less sceptical when not everyone and their mothers accusing others of rape when they haven't been.

Wisemanner · 2019-05-09T06:41:37+00:00

That's amazing. I hope somebody will have the balls to do the same in the UK.

ExoticInspection · 2019-05-09T06:42:43+00:00

For once, we should be following in alabama's footsteps and following their example

fengpi · 2019-05-09T05:44:27+00:00

Oh no, this will have a chilling effect on deflecting one's unexplained pregnancy.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-05-09T10:34:56+00:00

Sweet home Alabama!

chambertlo · 2019-05-09T10:35:10+00:00

Fucking about mother fucking time.

EtherealBipolar · 2019-05-09T12:12:40+00:00

Need this shit in the UK, it’s getting out of hand now

Massaha · 2019-05-09T10:47:05+00:00

Finally logic has hit the market.

anon5200 · 2019-05-09T06:10:20+00:00

I agree with this but i think falsely reporting a crime, and specifically a felony, is already a crime. I support this but making it so people just cant start vicious rumours would be better.

crnext · 2019-05-09T12:09:26+00:00

Please Alabama. Come through for once.

Nolafaranono · 2019-05-09T11:52:44+00:00

Sweet home Alabama

In all seriousness, this is needed everywhere.

Wolosocu · 2019-05-09T10:41:33+00:00

I am all for these laws as long as they strike a decent balance.

It would be a shame if legitimate victims of rape were concerned about reporting the crime because "if the person who raped me is found not guilty, can I go to jail?"

If the accuser files a false charge out of maliciousness then they should absolutely go to jail. I just worry that actual victims may be subject to charges if their accusations cannot be proven, which may be no fault of their own.

The bill, introduced by Rep. Dickie Drake, R-Leeds, would make falsely reporting a sex crime a Class C felony and punishable by up to 10 years in prison. If the accused was proven innocent, the accuser would be responsible for paying the accused person’s legal expenses.

This is an odd wording since trials do not prove someone is innocent, they conclude that someone is "not guilty" which is different. Also, I do not agree that the accuser should be automatically responsible (as this quote suggests) for the accused's legal fees. There are already procedures in place for the falsely-accused to seek reimbursement through civil court.

ashensorcerer · 2019-05-09T10:29:45+00:00

I know where I'm moving to.

Metalboxman · 2019-05-09T11:05:38+00:00

Victory royale

14b755fe39 · 2019-05-09T12:18:56+00:00

I read the bill, I am skepticalof the claim that "it would deter actual victims" ... the accused has to prove the claims are false...so good as this law will deter false accusers, hopefully.

Needlecrash · 2019-05-09T11:55:22+00:00

Good.

antilopes · 2019-05-09T12:31:32+00:00

In my opinion false accusers have something seriously wrong with them. Does not give a shit about ruining someones life as long as she gets attention. About time we get some justice!

DestroyerOfDoom29 · 2019-05-09T13:28:14+00:00

Finally Alabama does something good

Florient · 2019-05-09T15:13:04+00:00

Good. False accusations *do happen, much more commonly than feminists say. They can send someone to prison, and rapists are often targeted for violence in prison. A false accusation is a very serious crime that can cause great harm. It's not to say rape accusations should be taken less seriously, feminists have made it a nonsensical zero-sum game.

RaptorsCdwoods · 2019-05-09T15:28:30+00:00

The words “willingly, knowingly and with malicious intent are thrown around a lot. So it shouldn’t stop people from coming forward if they actually got raped.

Tatrer · 2019-05-09T16:31:58+00:00

This will be interesting to see in action. IANAL, but the bill states that in order to be found guilty someone will have to "Willfully, knowingly, and with malicious intent, make a false report..." I think those stipulations are adequate protections for those who make rape accusations that get thrown out for not enough evidence.

People who are raped need to report them much quicker. This is the true problem with so many rape cases being thrown out. I understand that victims may not wish to immediately relive their experiences, but if my bike is stolen, and I wait a week before reporting it missing, chances are slim that my bike will be found and the perpetrator will be brought to justice. Perhaps my report will stop them from stealing someone else's bike.

DavidByron2 · 2019-05-09T16:43:14+00:00

Alabama lawmakers are so fucking lazy they usually just copy another state's laws word for word. But there's no state to copy from here. Nobody else doing it.

tgbsv · 2019-05-09T20:58:05+00:00

isn't it already perjury?

mrBatata · 2019-05-09T22:24:10+00:00

Apparently lawmakers were tired of their sisters accusing them of rape

(its a jooooooke fcol)

ReasonableFlamingo · 2019-05-15T02:59:49+00:00

My guess is that the "republican" who introduced the bill is up for reelection and if he wins he will not revisit the bill and make some excuse up about it until he needs to be reelected again.

Now watch as the "feminists" all come out in full force claiming to be oppressed by the men.

Mrawesomeguy88 · 2019-05-09T11:29:25+00:00

Fuck yes

CrackingYs · 2019-05-09T12:33:52+00:00

I doubt it will pass. Our society seems content with allowing women to go around and point a finger at any man they choose, say the right words, and like a magic wand that man disappears into a jail cell, loses his job, friends, and family.

Until this magic power is outlawed, then I presume our society supports and encorages it.

braden1118 · 2019-05-09T13:48:59+00:00

SWEET HOME ALABAMA

felizcheese · 2019-05-09T14:19:05+00:00

Time to go after yearbook lady

assassincreed0007 · 2019-05-09T15:09:22+00:00

The only good thing in ALABAMA

Overson_YT · 2019-05-09T15:16:55+00:00

Let's hope the rest of the US follows this. Hell, let the rest of the WORLD follow this.

Pipezilla · 2019-05-09T15:20:02+00:00

This should’ve been a law a long time ago!!

Aegidius25 · 2019-05-09T15:27:51+00:00

thank goodness

Pensive_wolf · 2019-05-09T15:44:52+00:00

it's fucked up that this isn't already a thing.

tim99uk · 2019-05-09T20:34:58+00:00

About bloody time!

ViableHunter · 2019-05-10T05:35:56+00:00

Brb guys I'm moving to Alabama...

Yeah_Nopes · 2019-05-13T05:17:47+00:00

So I've gone to 6 different threads on this, and I have to say I'm beyond frustrated. I thought at least here, at r/MensRights, it wont be like all the other threads. I thought to myself that there's no way everyone here will be arguing about what the bill says, without having you know, actually read the bill. There's no way they will just be copy pasting from the article, when the bill itself is linked in the second paragraph of the article.

Well color me disappointed. Sweet Grandmother's Spatula people, read the damn bill, it's only three fucking pages. Shockingly, by reading the bill, you don't have to guess what's in the bill, because you've fucking read it!

Mexay · 2019-05-09T13:20:48+00:00

Just to play devil's advocate here:

Would this not prevent women from coming forward and admitting they lied?

Obviously it sucks when they do this, but right now if they do falsely accuse someone, their is at list the tiniest bit of hope they'll come out and admit they lied later. This would absolutely kill that.

If you've gotten away with murder, any confess?

iCorrosiveArrow · 2019-05-09T12:08:00+00:00

Am I reading this right? Alabama doing something positive as a state? What?

abatoire · 2019-05-09T11:35:45+00:00

Not read the bill but I think this is a very important piece of law. Which, if done right will role out in other parts as well.

The only concern for this bill that, in my eyes, the accusation needs to be above average false. So a rape victim for example shouldn't be persecuted due to a lack of evidence.

If it is proven to be malicious and baseless lie then all for it. Tbh, in such case I'm amazed they aren't prosecuted for wasting police time.

Nicobellisawsome · 2019-05-09T12:55:14+00:00

I was not expecting this type of justice in Alabama, but I am so happy that this is getting passed.

DarthCallidous · 2019-05-09T13:01:24+00:00

FINALLY. It will never come to California though :/

BlackBoxInquiry · 2019-05-09T13:17:20+00:00

Good. They need to. Felony with the same punishment as rape.

No free rides. Besides, if the accusation was already marked, legal has been begun and the life of the accused forever fucked.

Hang one of these lying sacks of shit out to dry and make an example of her...

There’s no fear for someone with a true accusation, but for one making up shit however because they’re an immature asshole on the other...

Isn’t there an existing law about filing false police reports? Use that and then stack this on top...

2019-05-09T14:18:27+00:00

How is that not already a crime?

DarkerScorp · 2019-05-09T14:29:17+00:00

Well done Alabama! It's about time.

McFeely_Smackup · 2019-05-09T16:19:58+00:00

Kathleen Connolly, director of the Alabama Coalition Against Rape, said this bill would deter people from reporting sex crimes, which are already one of the most under-reported crimes.

If a law criminalizing false reporting of sex crimes is deterring you from reporting a crime, then you apparently have serious concerns that the crime wasn't real in the first place.

4realzbruh · 2019-05-09T17:19:27+00:00

Why is this not already a thing?

bradtwo · 2019-05-09T18:43:45+00:00

... as it should have been since day 1.

also it should still be (like every other law) the burden of proof is on the accuser. meaning, no evidence / no proof = no crime. taking someones word for anything is foolish.

MobileWangWhacker · 2019-05-09T19:05:40+00:00

Kinda crazy that people would actually oppose this thing though like wtf

Leinadro · 2019-05-15T20:59:21+00:00

Turns out the bill has passed and frankly I don't like it. Shit like this is just going to get used as an excuse to continue denying rights to men and keep the conversation focused on women.

This bill is horrible for a lot of reasons and I don't support it.

RaptorsCdwoods · 2019-05-09T12:53:14+00:00

Holy shit! I’ve loved in Alabama for 20 years and this is the first time I’ve woken up and Alabama not disappoint me. I’m liking this change of pace. I mean, I totally expect them to somehow fuck this up by going back when feminists apply some heat but at least they’re starting the conversation.

This is the beginning of the end for people who think they can knowingly try to ruin someone else’s life with false rape accusations.

Minoxidil · 2019-05-09T13:21:12+00:00

i fear this will hamper male rape reporting exclusively on the grounds that there's little likelihood that a male rape case that isn't tabloid worthy (ex, male marital rape)would be taken seriously even if the problem is serious the victim may feel like not only now is their social repercussions for not being believed AND legal

bluehorserunning · 2019-05-09T14:47:54+00:00

Alabama and Georgia are going to see an exodus of young women.

DavidByron2 · 2019-05-09T16:38:07+00:00

So many many conversations I've had here trying to explain to people that maliciously and falsely accusing someone of rape is not a crime.

It ought to be but it isn't right now.

Title	Alabama bill would criminalize false rape accusations
Author	lostapwbm
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Date	May 9, 2019 5:26 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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