And this is why we can't have nice talks

Ted8367 · 2013-01-22T06:41:17+00:00

When you make an unanswerable point, what else can they do?

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2013-01-22T13:50:16+00:00

Latch on to only one short sentence in an entire argument. Express faux-outrage at that one sentence. End conversation and pretend you were the victim.

Pretty boilerplate academic feminism.

She was taught well.

Jovial_Gorilla · 2013-01-22T06:48:44+00:00

That's the problem. They just assume that they're in the right because somehow they're automatically right for being a feminist. If you compare them to Christian right-wingers, however, they are prone to letting go of that trip pretty quickly. At least that's been the case in my personal experience...

HellonStilts · 2013-01-22T15:14:12+00:00

Once tried to comment in SRS, immediately banned.

A whole subreddit where everyone completely agrees with eachother. Yep.

Mr5306 · 2013-01-22T16:50:21+00:00

You tried to have a dialogue with an SRSer? Haha, so naive.

biscuitgravy · 2013-01-22T12:46:24+00:00

do you have a link to the whole conversation?

2013-01-22T16:00:53+00:00

Court cases should not be black and white.

I think I love you for articulating what nobody else seems to be able to do.

ObsidianOverlord · 2013-01-22T15:44:12+00:00

You said something that taken out of context may offend someone with limited knowledge of the subject matter? Bastard!

vishtr · 2013-01-22T18:08:13+00:00

The Duluth Model - where is it used? This is new information to me, and I'd like to look further, but can't figure out where it is used, except for the one city in MN.

McFeely_Smackup · 2013-01-22T18:16:52+00:00

Clearly she said "night night" because she was going to bed, hoping an answer would come to her in dreams.

Raidicus · 2013-01-22T23:17:57+00:00

If it makes you feel any better I had a really interesting talk last night with a very pro feminism woman who ended up agreeing that men shouldn't be roped into being a father for their child. Neither of us could really come up with a law or solution that made perfect sense to the other but it was a great conversation and we continue our friendship past the discussion. Shes a 26 year old woman and otherwise very pro women's rights.

apajx · 2013-01-23T06:04:59+00:00

Hey, I don't mean to advertise, but I've decided to try and create a niche subreddit for the express purpose of trying to obtain some kind of intellectual improvement out of exactly these scenarios, it's /r/logiccritique

If you ever feel like you want someone to just sit down and see if something is missing or faulty in your argument (without necessarily continuing that argument, that's more suited to /r/debate) then i'd recommend giving it a shot.

giegerwasright · 2013-01-23T16:34:46+00:00

Thaaaaaaat's their tactic. "You don't agree with me, Night Night, I'm done!" And to some degree... it is an effective one.

Thegurning · 2013-01-26T08:54:55+00:00

Im right therefore i dont have to prove im right, just tell you that you're wrong.

Sparklesnap · 2013-01-22T11:36:41+00:00

So just because one moron on the internet won't talk to you, we should give up trying to have a civil discourse?

Sheesh. Glad i'm not trying to get you to commit long-term to anything remotely difficult.

I know that this is a straw man; clearly it's not just one idiot. But what did you expect? You knew people wouldn't want to talk about it. You knew people wouldn't be logical. Just because they're idiots doesn't give us a right to be; in fact, it makes it more imperative that we keep pushing and pushing the logic.

The Civil Rights movement succeeded because MLK Jr succeeded in convincing people to continue to be human beings and not to respond to mindless violence and bigotry with mindless violence and bigotry. Why should we do anything differently?

Thegridgirl33 · 2013-01-22T16:44:07+00:00

Maybe you should stop being a bigot/racist. If you want people to respect and ear you get out of the MRA first.

JumpJax · 2013-01-22T07:11:14+00:00

Thanks for showing me who to downvote into oblivion.

Okay, maybe I deserve to be downvoted, but I will keep this here because I don't like when people delete unpopular posts.

This got kind of out of hand. I wont apologize because I'm not sorry, and I always downvote biggots when I find them. You may hate me, but I see myself as enacting Reddit democracy. If you fuck up and show biggot colors, I will jot hesitate to hate that person.

Title	And this is why we can't have nice talks
Author	Doctor_Loggins
Upvotes	503
Comments	129
Date	January 22, 2013 6:12 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/171il2/and-this-is-why-we-cant-have-nice-talks/
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